Its not about someone vouching for another its about whats right and makes sense...COMMON SENSE....if you buy a product from a dealer and they send the wrong part, they are not going to say.."we"ll send you your money first, then send our product back"... Dude wanted me to send him his money first and then he would send me the wheels back, and he paid thru paypal(insurance)....which he filed a case with....the wheels were sent to my moms house, and i'm going to refund dudes money upon inspection of my wheels "which took almost 2 weeks to return".....ask Goldenchild i've been nothing but cool with the whole situation..... i'm through with it...i'm using my common sense..out