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GENERAL => BIKE TALK => Topic started by: dave393 on December 27, 2007, 11:12:59 AM
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I ask this queston because my shop is mainly Harley work. At 49 years old I can,t imagine not owning a Busa also. Harleys have there place but we have more requests for import work every week. Thumbs up to Suzuki!!
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Harley Davidson is the worlds most efficient way to turn gasoline into noise without the harmful side effect of horsepower
A Harley is a loose collection of junk travelling in roughly the same direction
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Don't have one. I have a VTX1800C. However, alot of people that I ride with do. I have no problem with them at all. They don't seem to be unreliable anymore like they were back in the AMF days.
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currently own 3 Zuk's; 1 Yamaha; 1 Honda....
I've owned Harley's in the past and I never see my money being spent on them again unless my DPI goes through the roof. I hope the income goes through the roof though - so's I can buy exotic stuff for my other bikes!
If I made a living tuning bikes - I would patronize HD big. Also, a lot of my buds have them.
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Harley Davidson is the worlds most efficient way to turn gasoline into noise without the harmful side effect of horsepower
A Harley is a loose collection of junk travelling in roughly the same direction
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And i thought Harley riders were narrow minded. :lol: :lol: It's just a question I am asking. I am considering expanding my advertising for my shop.
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i own a busa and about to get a Harley in two to three weeks i feel I'm getting a deal don't know the name yet but it is a 92 model for 7000 and clean i know a few guys who do their own work on their Harley's but don't know what I'm about to get into but fuk it will find out later
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That is a good price in the Harley market.
Thanks for the reply. :D
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Harley Davidson is the worlds most efficient way to turn gasoline into noise without the harmful side effect of horsepower
A Harley is a loose collection of junk travelling in roughly the same direction
:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :
And i thought Harley riders were narrow minded. :lol: :lol: It's just a question I am asking. I am considering expanding my advertising for my shop.
busa guys can take a joke :P
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I love the Speed of my Turbo-Hayabusa.
I love the sound of my Softail.
I love the tourque of my TOP GAS Harley.
But I don't like BMW-Bikes.
Crazy World. :lol:
Mike from Germany
(http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/293/kopievondscf1539yh3.jpg)
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Nice collection! :D :D
My personal bikes, 1972 H-2 dragbike, 03 Busa and 06 Dyna Superglide. All go down the track. 10.0, 9.05 and 11.24 respectively.
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...owned 11 different HD's from 1970 'til i bought my 1st Busa in '02,not feelin' any attraction anymore.
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i rode the harleys for some years. All most bankrupted myself trying to make it go fast .One day I said fuck it and got back into the real fast bikes. Much cheaper to just buy something that performs in the first place
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I have a 08 Ultra Classic and a 05 turbo Busa would not trade eather one each does have its place. and Brian thats funny but not very nice
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Harley Davidson is the worlds most efficient way to turn gasoline into noise without the harmful side effect of horsepower
You're killin' me Brian,that's one of the best ones i've heard yet. :rfl:
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If I had the money for a G2 big inch V-Twin from Star Racing that would be in my dyna now. Unfortunately I'm not rich so I had to settle for a 'busa instead. Each bike has it's place, but for an old guy like me with a bad back, the HD is more fun on long trips. Reliability is a factor when you play with HD's so mine is a cam only bike with bolt-ons. I challenge any of you hotshots to come to Louisiana to bracket race non electronic. If I don't beat you I guarantee you the other HD rider will! For me there is more to life than going fast because there is always someone else willing to spend more regardless what you ride.
You mean kind of like Pro Stock these days,where they had to hobble the Suzukis so HD could get in the game.
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'99 Sportster, '06 Busa, '07 Buell Blast
All different all fun in their own way.
Deb
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If I had the money for a G2 big inch V-Twin from Star Racing that would be in my dyna now. Unfortunately I'm not rich so I had to settle for a 'busa instead. Each bike has it's place, but for an old guy like me with a bad back, the HD is more fun on long trips. Reliability is a factor when you play with HD's so mine is a cam only bike with bolt-ons. I challenge any of you hotshots to come to Louisiana to bracket race non electronic. If I don't beat you I guarantee you the other HD rider will! For me there is more to life than going fast because there is always someone else willing to spend more regardless what you ride.
if you want something comfortable to cruise around on thats great. my point is not harley vs sportbike but harley vs metric cruiser. in every catagory harley looses. except for price. they are the kings of overpriced behind the times technology. harley will put out like 18 different models a year all with the same motor. the sportser and vrod have different motors but the other 18 models that all look amazingly similar use the same motor. the evolution was the motor from 85 to 2000. the shovel was the motor of choice for about 20 odd years. could you imagine suzuki using a motor for almost all their bikes for 20yrs!! so why are people paying so much for these bikes. harley is not doing a fraction of research and devolopment as other m/c companies. harley is selling more of an idea than a motorcycle. the idea is you are an "individual" or even a rebel if you ride a harley. you are not paying all that extra coin for technology or perfomance because harley is clearly behind in those catagories. you are paying extra for the marketing strategy that clearly is genuis :thumb:
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harley gave em the V-rod that actually had some power and the harley faithful rejected it ..
Go figure.
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Gone are the good old days when mothers hid their daughters from us badass 1%ers,now mother and daughter ride matching Softails with all the doctors/lawyers/stockbrokers.When i left AZ in '95 the largest "club" in the country(world)was on a recruiting drive and the day a new member walked into my tattoo shop wearing a t-shirt/short pants/tennis shoes and riding an 881 Sportster i knew the mystique was over and time to give it up(so bummed i almost threw my leather jacket away).In '98 i bought a new black Fatboy from Bartels(for $20,000,and they even threw in a Thunderheader :lol:),only to have it ripped off 3 weeks later while at work one night.
Then i bought my first Busa in '02 and have been hooked since,right now Chris is doing an RCC Stage 1,6" over McINTOSH arm/with Catalyst tail,air shifter,etc. and can't imagine ever being on anything else(unless we bump it up to a Stage 2 next year,eh Chris?).Been there/did that for 25 years...for me H-D can R.I.P. :trb:
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I've got both a turbo busa and a 07 streetglide with the stage 2 motor. both are awesome bikes but you cant compare apples to oranges. I've had 2 harleys and 3 busa's. I'm just happy I can afford to have both. look in the service dept at both and the harley techs seem to be more locked on. they can do a piston kit no problem, there are suzuki shops that I wouldn't let them adjust my chain.
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I've got both a turbo busa and a 07 streetglide with the stage 2 motor. both are awesome bikes but you cant compare apples to oranges. I've had 2 harleys and 3 busa's. I'm just happy I can afford to have both. look in the service dept at both and the harley techs seem to be more locked on. they can do a piston kit no problem, there are suzuki shops that I wouldn't let them adjust my chain.
not much to doing a piston kit on a twinkie :wink:
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My granpa told me along time ago Harleys and vacume cleaners have 2 things in comon.They both have dirt bags on them. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Did he also tell you they both make alot of noise and need pushed often?
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Actually I had harleys in the past and won't get another one unless they really change down the road. I had problems with every one I had and they where new when i bought them. Guess I just had bad luck as some people will say there's is trouble free. would go with a m109 or yamaha if I was going cruiser again.
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Never owned a harley, don't ever plan on it. Just my .02
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metric cruisers at my house. have a busa and a 1600 vulcan with less money invested than 1 harley
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Never owned a harley, don't ever plan on it. Just my .02
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I am more into muscle cars than harleys
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first of all, i have several turbo busa's and am currently building another one ...dont knock the harleys ...dont be haters!! i love the hayabusa, and i also have a 04 screamin eagle deuce and a v-rod as well (in progress) the busa is awesome but for the long rides with my buds it doesnt get any better than my harley, just to relax and enjoy the "ride"....and no my shit dont leak or has ever broke down after 8k miles! so i am a fan either way...be grateful that you can ride, no matter what kind of bike you have!!
oh...and briank...since you are a newb to the turbo world and are dogging the harleys...i have a v-rod that just might spank that little stage 1 of yours...ready????
all in fun
tim
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i just have my busa and my kaw kfx700 atv.
i would like to own a cruiser one day.
maybe a harley...
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Harley Davidson is the worlds most efficient way to turn gasoline into noise without the harmful side effect of horsepower
A Harley is a loose collection of junk travelling in roughly the same direction
:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
I just stoped in to take a peek and I think just pissed myself laughing :thumb: :rfl: :clp: :rfl:
:woot: :crzy: :lol2: :rfl: :lmao:
If harley would just spend as much money on engineers as they do on attorneys, maybe they could build a modern motorcycle. They actually tried to patent the "potato" noise they make, they sued Boss Hog over the use of hog and eventually lost both cases. They got reagan to put a 50% on all bikes over 750CCs entering the country. It's no wonder they are known for Yestrdays Technology at Tomorrows Prices.
Just take a look
http://www.bikernewsonline.com/2007/12/harley-loses-mexico-sportster-trademark.htm
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i just have my busa and my kaw kfx700 atv.
i would like to own a cruiser one day.
maybe a harley...
grecco, you are close to me...anytime you want to take my deuce out for a cruise or even keep it for the week you just let me know...its a great relaxing ride!! i do alot for my bro's...just say the word and its yours for a week :thumb:
have a safe new year my friend :thumb:
tim
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i just have my busa and my kaw kfx700 atv.
i would like to own a cruiser one day.
maybe a harley...
grecco, you are close to me...anytime you want to take my deuce out for a cruise or even keep it for the week you just let me know...its a great relaxing ride!! i do alot for my bro's...just say the word and its yours for a week :thumb:
have a safe new year my friend :thumb:
tim
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Damn trbobusa !!!!
Don't tempt me !!!! :P
that is very nice of you !!!!
i love your bike !!!!
have a good new year also tim.
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:beechug:
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harley gave em the V-rod that actually had some power and the harley faithful rejected it ..
Go figure.
That wasn't the first time the "grateful harley heads" screwed up. They actually had a V4 WATER COOLED concept bike in the mid 70s or so, but the "faithful" chose antiques instead.
http://www.bikerenews.com/AntiqueBikes/CodeNameNova.htm
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first of all, i have several turbo busa's and am currently building another one ...dont knock the harleys ...dont be haters!! i love the hayabusa, and i also have a 04 screamin eagle deuce and a v-rod as well (in progress) the busa is awesome but for the long rides with my buds it doesnt get any better than my harley, just to relax and enjoy the "ride"....and no my shit dont leak or has ever broke down after 8k miles! so i am a fan either way...be grateful that you can ride, no matter what kind of bike you have!!
oh...and briank...since you are a newb to the turbo world and are dogging the harleys...i have a v-rod that just might spank that little stage 1 of yours...ready????
all in fun
tim
but thats my point it does get better than a harley! what about a m109? what about a vstar? what about a vulcan? how a about a valkyrie? all cruisers all more powerful than any stock harley all better bikes from top to bottom all less expensive than the harley. are you trying to tell me that they are not as comfortable as a harley? i have ridden my friends 2006 street glide many times. for 20k you would expect alot more out of a bike. he pulls up and the front brakes squeel really loud. harley tells him he doesnt need front floating rotors, they are solid he is going to get aftermarket rotors cause it is embarrassing wtf. he also needs an aftermarket rear suspension brace cause the rear swingarm is rubber mounted and floats to much in the turns.. a known issue with that bike that harley ignores. my brother has a 97 road king that i also ride cause when i go out with them they all want to swap with me. that bike has zero braking power. neither one is a horrible bike but both are not much bike for the amount of$$ involved. i owned a valkyrie which was just as comfortable as either one. once i shoot down the perforformance of the harley compared to metric cruisers i always here the comfort arguement. metric cruisers are just as comfortable maybe even more so because your butt is padded with all the $$ you saved not buying the harley. and sure i will run you on the v-rod but i want a 10 bike length headstart :P
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i just have my busa and my kaw kfx700 atv.
i would like to own a cruiser one day.
maybe a harley...
grecco, you are close to me...anytime you want to take my deuce out for a cruise or even keep it for the week you just let me know...its a great relaxing ride!! i do alot for my bro's...just say the word and its yours for a week :thumb:
have a safe new year my friend :thumb:
tim
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Damn trbobusa !!!!
Don't tempt me !!!! :P
that is very nice of you !!!!
i love your bike !!!!
have a good new year also tim.
:thumb:
:beechug:
by the way grecco, this is the bike you will be riding for the week!
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c13/tdavis36/58635.jpg)
tim :wink:
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=eHNRgg3mQqA
:rfl: :lmao: :rfl:
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first of all, i have several turbo busa's and am currently building another one ...dont knock the harleys ...dont be haters!! i love the hayabusa, and i also have a 04 screamin eagle deuce and a v-rod as well (in progress) the busa is awesome but for the long rides with my buds it doesnt get any better than my harley, just to relax and enjoy the "ride"....and no my shit dont leak or has ever broke down after 8k miles! so i am a fan either way...be grateful that you can ride, no matter what kind of bike you have!!
oh...and briank...since you are a newb to the turbo world and are dogging the harleys...i have a v-rod that just might spank that little stage 1 of yours...ready????
all in fun
tim
but thats my point it does get better than a harley! what about a m109? what about a vstar? what about a vulcan? how a about a valkyrie? all cruisers all more powerful than any stock harley all better bikes from top to bottom all less expensive than the harley. are you trying to tell me that they are not as comfortable as a harley? i have ridden my friends 2006 street glide many times. for 20k you would expect alot more out of a bike. he pulls up and the front brakes squeel really loud. harley tells him he doesnt need front floating rotors, they are solid he is going to get aftermarket rotors cause it is embarrassing wtf. he also needs an aftermarket rear suspension brace cause the rear swingarm is rubber mounted and floats to much in the turns.. a known issue with that bike that harley ignores. my brother has a 97 road king that i also ride cause when i go out with them they all want to swap with me. that bike has zero braking power. neither one is a horrible bike but both are not much bike for the amount of$$ involved. i owned a valkyrie which was just as comfortable as either one. once i shoot down the perforformance of the harley compared to metric cruisers i always here the comfort arguement. metric cruisers are just as comfortable maybe even more so because your butt is padded with all the $$ you saved not buying the harley. and sure i will run you on the v-rod but i want a 10 bike length headstart :P
:lol: i hear ya bro! i just love to ride and my harley satisfies me on the long ride, sure the metrics will outlast them...but its all in good fun..and i got a killer deal on my deuce...and its great to just "cruise" every once in a while...as far as 10 lengths.hmmm ....i think maybe 2 or 3 but i dont race for free...at least a 12 pack :lol: and we have to drink it together. :lol: dont like to drink alone...
all in fun bro...be safe on that beast...
tim
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=eHNRgg3mQqA
:rfl: :lmao: :rfl:
what was so funny about that??? :?: that guy was never funny...or did i miss something? maybe i dont drink enough :?
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1000% in fun. i go to americade every year and get razzed all week long cause everyone i go with is on a harley. the best thing about my friends with the harleys is they are ALWAYS ready to go for an all day ride. thats why i log by far the most miles on my bike with harleys. i want at least 5 lengths :P
have a safe new year :thumb:
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=eHNRgg3mQqA
:rfl: :lmao: :rfl:
what was so funny about that??? :?: that guy was never funny...or did i miss something? maybe i dont drink enough :?
the humor is in the truth of it :P
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1000% in fun. i go to americade every year and get razzed all week long cause everyone i go with is on a harley. the best thing about my friends with the harleys is they are ALWAYS ready to go for an all day ride. thats why i log by far the most miles on my bike with harleys. i want at least 5 lengths :P
have a safe new year :thumb:
safe new year to you also... :thumb:
and 2 lengths only...lol
tim
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I have a busa and a harley i drag race both my harley's best is 10.17 at 135 mph stock wheelbase and foot shifted and no wheelie bar just a lot of motor work. Busa best time is 9.58 at 148 mph with just power commander and lowered. Love all my bikes and my harley is my pride and joy but the busa just keeps impressing me I ride it to the track for sat night bracket racing and ride it home it so mild yet so fast and to think that i really didn't want a busa but my wife wanted it so we could ride together comfortable GOD I LOVE MY WIFE! The thing that a hate about harley's is the people a lot of them don't know how to act, you got catolog riders and overnight bikers and throttle jockeys they all drive me crazy.
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Just the busa here :P
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I don't own a harley - like to however right now I'm happy with 3 - 79 KZ1300's , 01 Busa and 06 Goldwing
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I have an 07 Buell XB12S so I guess thats classified as a Harley :thumb: :lol:
When it comes to bikes, variety is the spice of life ! 8)
I love the way you Americans have lots of different styles of bikes in the garage. Its something that doesn't cross the pond.
We have some very retentive attitudes here to what people ride. We still have quite a lot of the chops and Harley riders v sports bike riders.
But that stale old mindest is breaking down slowly here.
As I allways say:
IT AINT WHAT YOU RIDE, ITS THE FACT THAT YOU DO RIDE ! :smokin:
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=eHNRgg3mQqA
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I thought he pretty much hit the nail on the head,exactly what i was talking about earlier on in this thread.I don't at all hate a H-D just for being a H-D(having owned 11 different Pans,Pan/Shovels,96" stroker Shovel[$4,000 in motor work back in the day to get a whopping 80 HP :lol:]and a Fatboy),i was as diehard as they come for 25 years...i just can't stand 90% of the people on them these days.Out here(SoCal)you'll run into dozens of the Jesse James $70,000 look-a-likes every weekend,owners looking like they double checked the list on page 27 of the Easyriders handbook on how to dress/act like a "real" biker before they left home,then trying not to acknowledge anybody they meet on a Jap bike so they fit the old image of 20 years ago.After a quick stop at Cook's Corner where they try to pick up some lame chick looking for a Sunday afternoon "bad boy",it's back in the garage in it's spot between the Mercedes and the Beemer.I still get the urge to run one down and make him stand there and hold my jacket while his old lady gives me a blowjob,but i pretty much behave myself these days and just blow by 'em at warp factor 9.Guess ya gotta still hand it to H-D for being on top of the marketing game,they were pretty much fucked there for a while until they started targeting the yuppies(and we gotta have somebody to harass,get pretty boring out there if everybody rode a turbo Busa... :thumb:).Besides,i still like looking at the racks on some of those old hookers stuffed into those little leather H-D halter tops...long live H-D! :beechug:
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Well for the record I'm no yuppie poser...me and my dyna are on page 74 of the April 2005 Easyriders. I live in Louisiana and ride daily 24/7 365 and as you can tell really could care less what any of you think of me.
if you are in easyriders mag that automatically qualifies you for yuppie poser status :rfl:
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I bought a metric cruiser, dressed it up, rode it for awhile then came to the conclusion that it was just too damn slow and boring for me to ride. Took it down and traded for another Busa.
Racetrack14
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If I had the money for a G2 big inch V-Twin from Star Racing that would be in my dyna now. Unfortunately I'm not rich so I had to settle for a 'busa instead. Each bike has it's place, but for an old guy like me with a bad back, the HD is more fun on long trips. Reliability is a factor when you play with HD's so mine is a cam only bike with bolt-ons. I challenge any of you hotshots to come to Louisiana to bracket race non electronic. If I don't beat you I guarantee you the other HD rider will! For me there is more to life than going fast because there is always someone else willing to spend more regardless what you ride.
Don't get your panties in a twist there gator,the "had to settle for a 'busa instead", and "if i don't beat you the other H-D rider will!" kinda rubbed my fur the wrong way,especially on a Busa board.
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2 Busas and 1 HD (06 FLSTC)...
Love the HD for the long haul, had 10 or so metric's and they just don't tickle my fancy like the HD and I was a Hater for years! This was my first HD and I'll get another when this one gets old. It really doesn't matter what anything cost, cause I promise it wouldn't be in your garage at any price! Its just not your cup of tea and thats ok with me.... The metric bikes aren't in the same class as the HD and I can live with that cause to me they are timeless. The metrics are a lot of bike for the money, can't argue that, but I would beg to differ that they are as timeless as the HD. Show me a ten year old metric and I'll show you a dinosaur... Not the case with a HD, there a lot like a bottle of fine wine in that they just get more valuable with time. Maybe thats part of the reason for the price disparity.... And trust me metrics will catch HD in price! Look at the automobile market, wasn't that long ago import cars were a lot less then American made! Not so today, in fact many are just as much if not more....
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I'd like to stay on here and bullshit with you guys but have to go spend the next 4 hours underwater changing props on some rich bastid's yacht in 57 degree water to support my Busa's go fast mods...somebody has to work around this dump.
You slackers all have a good day,
Jeff :thumb:
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I'd like to stay on here and bullshit with you guys but have to go spend the next 4 hours underwater changing props on some rich bastid's yacht in 57 degree water to support my Busa's go fast mods...somebody has to work around this dump.
You slackers all have a good day,
Jeff :thumb:
that sounds like it pays well.
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I'd like to stay on here and bullshit with you guys but have to go spend the next 4 hours underwater changing props on some rich bastid's yacht in 57 degree water to support my Busa's go fast mods...somebody has to work around this dump.
You slackers all have a good day,
Jeff :thumb:
that sounds like it pays well.
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i hope so for his sake
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I know this is going to piss a few off here, but here goes my opinion anyway. I feel that harley is a total embarrassment to this country.
We pride ourselves on having the technology to be able to shoot a missle down a chimney from miles away, yet our example of motorcycle technology to the world is a shitty running V-twin turd, that barely can make its own way down the road without shaking itself apart.
To be proud to ride a bike that has been assembled by parts from all over the place, and at the same time trying to be an "American" icon, is just plain anti-patriotic!
If a company is going to promote itself as harley does, every god damn part should be made here in this country. NO excuses whatsoever for how it is now.
I have no complaints if you wanna ride one and cruise, because thats what it is, a "Cruiser". Its when they have to make that loud fart-like noise they make by taking the nice exhaust system off them that they come with, and parade around town screaming LOOK AT ME ROOM ROOOM LOOK AT ME that is the sickness that this machine promotes.
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I know this is going to piss a few off here, but here goes my opinion anyway. I feel that harley is a total embarrassment to this country.
We pride ourselves on having the technology to be able to shoot a missle down a chimney from miles away, yet our example of motorcycle technology to the world is a shitty running V-twin turd, that barely can make its own way down the road without shaking itself apart.
To be proud to ride a bike that has been assembled by parts from all over the place, and at the same time trying to be an "American" icon, is just plain anti-patriotic!
If a company is going to promote itself as harley does, every god damn part should be made here in this country. NO excuses whatsoever for how it is now.
I have no complaints if you wanna ride one and cruise, because thats what it is, a "Cruiser". Its when they have to make that loud fart-like noise they make by taking the nice exhaust system off them that they come with, and parade around town screaming LOOK AT ME ROOM ROOOM LOOK AT ME that is the sickness that this machine promotes.
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falcon-a,
were you run over by a harley when you were a child?
:P
j/k
i agree with you to a point.
but,
i like harleys.
i love riding them.
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I have the only True American made V-Twin NOW in production... A Victory... made by Polaris.
This is My Hammer.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v156/Scary-Jerry/Hayabusa/Hammer/Hammer-27Apr07003.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v156/Scary-Jerry/Hayabusa/Hammer/Hammer-19Apr07006.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v156/Scary-Jerry/Hayabusa/Hammer/Hammer-27Apr07001.jpg)
...and of course my TurboBusa. :wink:
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damn that is bad ass as well.
i forgot about those...
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To me , motorcycles are all about raising hell. I cant ride em any other way. Its hard to do that on a bike thats only capable of making noise.
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raising hell on a motorcycle would (for me) depend on the type of bike it is?
kinda like,
you would make love to your wife,
but,
you would bang a slut.
both are fun but you would ride them differently.
if that makes any sense.
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raising hell on a motorcycle would (for me) depend on the type of bike it is?
kinda like,
you would make love to your wife,
but,
you would bang a slut.
if that makes any sense.
Mmmmmm sluts :P
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I like your Hammer, cept for the tiny little outlet holes in those big chrome pipes. Now don't get me wrong, I didn't say I wanted to hear it sound like a fartin harley, but Polaris could have done a little better then that for sound. It sounds like a Honda Rebel.
A nice deep mellow sound that isn't obnoxious and retarded is actually cool.
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stock exhaust systems, in general, need to be changed anyway, as long as its done tastefully. :P
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raising hell on a motorcycle would (for me) depend on the type of bike it is?
kinda like,
you would make love to your wife,
but,
you would bang a slut.
both are fun but you would ride them differently.
if that makes any sense.
That makes sense, so if you wanna use the "slut scenerio" Does it make sense is that a guy would spend so much to get so little? Would you spend big bucks on a fat girl that is a dead fuck, and has a big mouth and farts? Or would you spend half on a slut that is actually fun to ride that puts out?
The question is, When you turn your bike on does it return the favor?
I laugh at the harley mentality, as its funny to see what people spend to get so little. I can understand if you want a bike to give rides on the back, then whatever, but to ride that lame ass crap solo, then spend tons of $$ to try to get it to keep up with traffic is a joke.
When you can buy a metric that outperforms one in every aspect for less $, its hard to understand any desire to own such a machine.
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That makes sense, so if you wanna use the "slut scenerio" Does it make sense is that a guy would spend so much to get so little? Would you spend big bucks on a fat girl that is a dead fuck, and has a big mouth and farts? Or would you spend half on a slut that is actually fun to ride that puts out?
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raising hell on a motorcycle would (for me) depend on the type of bike it is?
kinda like,
you would make love to your wife,
but,
you would bang a slut.
both are fun but you would ride them differently.
if that makes any sense.
That makes sense, so if you wanna use the "slut scenerio" Does it make sense is that a guy would spend so much to get so little? Would you spend big bucks on a fat girl that is a dead fuck, and has a big mouth and farts? Or would you spend half on a slut that is actually fun to ride that puts out?
The question is, When you turn your bike on does it return the favor?
I laugh at the harley mentality, as its funny to see what people spend to get so little. I can understand if you want a bike to give rides on the back, then whatever, but to ride that lame ass crap solo, then spend tons of $$ to try to get it to keep up with traffic is a joke.
When you can buy a metric that outperforms one in every aspect for less $, its hard to understand any desire to own such a machine.
the desire is in the image they think they are portraying when their bike has a harley emblem on it. there is no other possible reason.there is not one aspect of a harley that compares favorably to a metric cruiser except the perceived image "i got a harley"
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the desire is in the image they think they are portraying when their bike has a harley emblem on it. there is no other possible reason.there is not one aspect of a harley that compares favorably to a metric cruiser except the perceived image "i got a harley"
I agree 100% and have said so for years. The marketing is so good for such a shitty product. For what you get for the dollar spent is rediculous.
Could you imagine if you bought cars that way? Go buy a brand new model A Ford and spend $100Gs when you can buy a new Vette or Viper or anything else that will out perform it every which way for almost half. Gee I'd run right out and buy the "A", so that I could feel that I belong to some imaginary family of fellow "A" owners.
WTF is wrong with people. This is truely an example of what is going to be the end of this country. So many are concerned with image rather then function, to try to impress others that don't really matter anyway.
Let me ask this. When you ride your chromed out fart noise makin harley around, do people run up and hand you hundred dolllar bills because they think your cool? What do you get paid to impress others, because I want to get on that payroll myself!!
Why would anyone give a flyin fuck what others think when you pull up on your Busa, or Goldwing, or what ever suits YOU? Why do so many care so much what others think that they have to ride a harley to fit into a certain group? Hell I rode my Busa many a times on runs where I was the only sport bike. So fucking what! When I got tired of the rattlin fart noise makin oil leaking pigs, I could zip by them and lead to the next bar, and there wasn't anything any of them could do but watch me.
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I like your Hammer, cept for the tiny little outlet holes in those big chrome pipes. Now don't get me wrong, I didn't say I wanted to hear it sound like a fartin harley, but Polaris could have done a little better then that for sound. It sounds like a Honda Rebel.
A nice deep mellow sound that isn't obnoxious and retarded is actually cool.
I totally agree - But I have a 98 decibal limit when it comes time to register it... :?
I'm dealing with that as we speak in regards to my TurboBusa. :cry:
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Hey Jerry,
the noise-limit is bad in Germany.
But therefor, you have no Speed-limit on Highways :D(mostly)
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That makes sense, so if you wanna use the "slut scenerio" Does it make sense is that a guy would spend so much to get so little? Would you spend big bucks on a fat girl that is a dead fuck, and has a big mouth and farts? Or would you spend half on a slut that is actually fun to ride that puts out?
Thats it !!!! I`m in bits now !!!! :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:
Just spat my Christmas cake all over the screen !!!!!!!!!! :rfl:
Priceless one liner :thumb:
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my bikes "put out" :D cheap date really!
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I started out with a Yamaha V-Star 1100...loved it. Then went to a Ninja 650R...loved it. Then went to a Busa...LOVE IT!!!
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I'd like to stay on here and bullshit with you guys but have to go spend the next 4 hours underwater changing props on some rich bastid's yacht in 57 degree water to support my Busa's go fast mods...somebody has to work around this dump.
You slackers all have a good day,
Jeff :thumb:
that sounds like it pays well.
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i hope so for his sake
Hi guys,
Not nearly enough(especially in winter,my balls rattle around like ice cubes in a rock glass!),we'd be making double what we are now if not for all the damned illegals who've invaded the harbor over the last 10 years,running around trying to lowball/undercut everybody(i'm thinking if i take a few down to the bottom in a rear naked choke maybe things will start improving a little :lol:),but i like being under water so will have to make the best of it.
Later bros,
Jeff :thumb:
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Hey guys, this reply is directed to those of you who feel you must bad mouth the Harley,s nobody is asking you to go out and buy a Harley, but do you guys notice there,s no Harley only riders running there mouth about what a POS the jap bikes are and how they would never own one I,v had 5 Harley,s and proably a dozen UJMs over the years, including the Turbo Busa and one of the Honda,s is the only one that ever caused me to walk home come to think of it that bikes the only one that ever leaked oil. like I said at the beginning of this thread both bikes have there place and you should leave it at that :|
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Hey guys, this reply is directed to those of you who feel you must bad mouth the Harley,s nobody is asking you to go out and buy a Harley, but do you guys notice there,s no Harley only riders running there mouth about what a POS the jap bikes are and how they would never own one I,v had 5 Harley,s and proably a dozen UJMs over the years, including the Turbo Busa and one of the Honda,s is the only one that ever caused me to walk home come to think of it that bikes the only one that ever leaked oil. like I said at the beginning of this thread both bikes have there place and you should leave it at that :|
i am sure on the harley forums they are running their mouths :P
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Yes they are; the big thing the Harley guys are bitching about is how some kid on a f***ing crotch rocket when bye them at 100 mph on the back wheel in traffic ! not what a pos the bike is
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Hey guys, this reply is directed to those of you who feel you must bad mouth the Harley,s nobody is asking you to go out and buy a Harley, but do you guys notice there,s no Harley only riders running there mouth about what a POS the jap bikes are and how they would never own one I,v had 5 Harley,s and proably a dozen UJMs over the years, including the Turbo Busa and one of the Honda,s is the only one that ever caused me to walk home come to think of it that bikes the only one that ever leaked oil. like I said at the beginning of this thread both bikes have there place and you should leave it at that :|
i am sure on the harley forums they are running their mouths :P
I onced joined a harley forum, only to be banned for trying to compare a harley to an import. I asked what they thought of the M109 and was ripped for 13 pages. SO don't come on here you guys and say anyone rips harley too much, because that isn't even close to what harley riders say about us.
Brian me and you could sit and drink a beer and have a lot of fun laughin about this stuff :beechug:
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Hey guys, this reply is directed to those of you who feel you must bad mouth the Harley,s nobody is asking you to go out and buy a Harley, but do you guys notice there,s no Harley only riders running there mouth about what a POS the jap bikes are and how they would never own one I,v had 5 Harley,s and proably a dozen UJMs over the years, including the Turbo Busa and one of the Honda,s is the only one that ever caused me to walk home come to think of it that bikes the only one that ever leaked oil. like I said at the beginning of this thread both bikes have there place and you should leave it at that :|
i am sure on the harley forums they are running their mouths :P
I onced joined a harley forum, only to be banned for trying to compare a harley to an import. I asked what they thought of the M109 and was ripped for 13 pages. SO don't come on here you guys and say anyone rips harley too much, because that isn't even close to what harley riders say about us.
Brian me and you could sit and drink a beer and have a lot to laugh about :beechug:
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Maybe they do but me and about a dozen Harley guys I ride with dont and 5 of them also have sportbikes. now you have got me mad at myself for being sucked into this pissing contest :x :x :x :x :x
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I know this is going to piss a few off here, but here goes my opinion anyway. I feel that harley is a total embarrassment to this country.
We pride ourselves on having the technology to be able to shoot a missle down a chimney from miles away, yet our example of motorcycle technology to the world is a shitty running V-twin turd, that barely can make its own way down the road without shaking itself apart.
To be proud to ride a bike that has been assembled by parts from all over the place, and at the same time trying to be an "American" icon, is just plain anti-patriotic!
If a company is going to promote itself as harley does, every god damn part should be made here in this country. NO excuses whatsoever for how it is now.
I have no complaints if you wanna ride one and cruise, because thats what it is, a "Cruiser". Its when they have to make that loud fart-like noise they make by taking the nice exhaust system off them that they come with, and parade around town screaming LOOK AT ME ROOM ROOOM LOOK AT ME that is the sickness that this machine promotes.
LOOK AT ME ROOM ROOOM LOOK AT ME!
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc87/Turboosta/LookAtMe.jpg)
But to be honest and fair, not all harley riders are dicks. I've met a few that were cool and down to earth. But there's always that bunch with no baffles that rev their engines and like to scare little old ladies, children and dogs when passing by, that give all riders a black eye.
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Whats worse the load pipes or the 100 mph wheelies :?:
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Whats worse the load pipes or the 100 mph wheelies :?:
Loud pipes and belching gasoline fumes. 100 MPH wheelies I can deal with.
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Well, I have ridden Triumph, BSA, Norton, Benelli, Sears-Roebuck, Cushman, MoPed, Mustang, Eagle, Harley Sportster, Harley dresser, Harley dragbike, Honda 750 when it first came out, Yamaha 500 triple, Yamaha 750 triple, a gaggle of various dirt bikes, the most recent being a CRF450F Honda, Yamaha V-Max 1985 model, BMW 900S, 2002 Hayabusa, and 2004 Goldwing. I am sure that some of you have done the same; the point is that I have ridden and owned a wide and international selection of motorcycles.
I currently own a 1985 V-Max, 2007 Hayabusa a 1999 FXDL TwinCam Lowrider, and a 1999 Harley TwinCam dragbike. The Harley's are loud, the Busa is quite. I gave away several dirt bikes to various grandchildren recently, as I no longer rode them.
Every motorcycle I have owned, and several bicycles, share some common features. At the time, they are the best ride I have. I am not in love with any of them; I will always move to one I perceive as better, even tho I may be deluding myself. I keep as many as I can, but eventually they have to go. All motorcycles require service and repair, regardless of the make and model. No brand deserves the adoration we sometimes give them.
Each machine is a turn-on at a given moment in time... even the Goldwing, which I came to despise. In recent years, the Busa reigns supreme for me...
But some days the Harley, archaic as it seems, is a great bike to ride. Loud, hard to handle, poor brakes, vibrations, on some days seems just right.
From a 50+ year perspective of riding, all motorcycles are delightful, and don't deserve bashing. The motorcycle riders (including myself, and no finger pointing to anyone!), on the other hand, sometimes are not as delightful.
Just some rambling thoughts from a senior citizen motorcycle rider.
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Nitrosportster you're my kind of rider. As for the rest of the haters, I like old school technology and am sorry if that makes me a dinosaur. My busa is the only non American vehicle in my yard. Sure My Camaro was made in Canada and my wife's GTO Australia, but the technolgy is old school American push rod V-8. I'm another that rejected the V-rod. I like my HD's with 45 degree V-twins. The metric cruisers are better, but I prefer the HD's. That is the great thing about this country. We are all free to choose what we want so why knock others just because they don't think like you do.
Why reject the V-rod? Looks are certainly up to the individual, but the V-rod is the best looking bike in it's class, especially now that they finally started putting the larger rear tires on.
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the desire is in the image they think they are portraying when their bike has a harley emblem on it. there is no other possible reason.there is not one aspect of a harley that compares favorably to a metric cruiser except the perceived image "i got a harley"
I agree 100% and have said so for years. The marketing is so good for such a shitty product. For what you get for the dollar spent is rediculous.
Could you imagine if you bought cars that way? Go buy a brand new model A Ford and spend $100Gs when you can buy a new Vette or Viper or anything else that will out perform it every which way for almost half. Gee I'd run right out and buy the "A", so that I could feel that I belong to some imaginary family of fellow "A" owners.
WTF is wrong with people. This is truely an example of what is going to be the end of this country. So many are concerned with image rather then function, to try to impress others that don't really matter anyway.
Let me ask this. When you ride your chromed out fart noise makin harley around, do people run up and hand you hundred dolllar bills because they think your cool? What do you get paid to impress others, because I want to get on that payroll myself!!
Why would anyone give a flyin fuck what others think when you pull up on your Busa, or Goldwing, or what ever suits YOU? Why do so many care so much what others think that they have to ride a harley to fit into a certain group? Hell I rode my Busa many a times on runs where I was the only sport bike. So fucking what! When I got tired of the rattlin fart noise makin oil leaking pigs, I could zip by them and lead to the next bar, and there wasn't anything any of them could do but watch me.
So does the same philosophy apply to a Busa with lots of chrome, one sided swing arm, 300 rear tire, custom paint, and neon lights? What about a stock Busa when a Ninja 250 would really be all a person needs 90 percent of the time?
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Well said Lowrider some people have nothing better to do except bust balls :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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DWB also very well said :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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They're in disbelief that a motorcycle can actually go a 100 miles an hour,and that somebody has the balls to do a wheelie...at any speed.
The "chug,chug,chug...don't i look cool on my slug?!" ain't gettin' it anymore for those of us who've graduated to something that actually moves when you pin the throttle.The new breed of outlaw rides a sportbike...ultimately a Busa.
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Well said Lowrider some people have nothing better to do except bust balls :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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...and what's all this Hardly Dangerous crap doing on a Busa board anyway?At least Fearsome Kawasaki was entertaining... :thumb:
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You know what I like to do, I like to ride a bike, irregardless of the name on the side, and after getting off, then put a price on it that I feel it would be worth to own.
No matter what harley I have rode, and I have rode quite a few over the years, I am no kid myself, I would have a hard time forkin out a $50. for most harleys.
Now keep in mind, its MY opinion. I do think tho that if everyone were to rate bikes by how they rode, handled and performed overall, harley would be out of business several years ago.
Its all about the opinion of the rider, whether he or she is more concerned of the image they portray as they ride, or their own personal satisfaction not caring what anyone else thinks.
And to answer DWB, at least when someone chromes his Busa, or adds a single sider with a fat tire, its a bike worthy of modifying. Why anyone would try to increase the power of a harley engine is beyond me. They must not know that one connecting rod actually comes out of the other in a harley engine.
I can go on and on, it won't change anyones mind, everyone already knows it all. I recently spoke to a friend that works at the local harley dealer in the parts dept. He told me part of his job is to cover the labels that say "Made in Japan" "Made in Taiwon" Made in China" up with the dealers label so nobody knows where the parts come from. How sad.
At least with the metrics, most know where they come from. Although I'd bet most harley riders don't know that quite a few metrics are made right here in the good ole USA, using more American workers then harley. Kinda funny if you think about it. I think everyone should know the truth. :thumb:
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I think we should all agree ,whatever WE are riding is cool and great and the bike you YOU are riding just plain sucks. :lol:
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So many great bikes on the market these days I'd really like to try em all.
Its like the poor harley guys have taken an oath not to even look at another bike if it does'nt have HD on the side . If thats not a cult I dont know what is.
Some of them are breaking free I notice.
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99% of Harley owners are now ( RUMY's) Rich Urban Motorcycle Yuppies the biker no longer exists.
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Falcon-A, I think you're a little off base on the "American" aspect of the metrics vs HD. It is true that they all operate in a global marketplace so plenty of HD and metric parts are made in other countries, but HD does make an effort to stay American as much as economically feasible. In my job I bump into projects they are working on and I can tell you that they even require their machine tools and assembly lines to be built in the USA, although it may not be a US company doing the work. There aren't too many companies doing that these days.
This doesn't mean I'm going to run out and buy one, but that's because they don't offer what I want to own right now. I wouldn't mind a V-Rod but I don't have a strong enough desire for a muscle/sport cruiser to spend the money.
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Falcon-A, I think you're a little off base on the "American" aspect of the metrics vs HD. It is true that they all operate in a global marketplace so plenty of HD and metric parts are made in other countries, but HD does make an effort to stay American as much as economically feasible. In my job I bump into projects they are working on and I can tell you that they even require their machine tools and assembly lines to be built in the USA, although it may not be a US company doing the work. There aren't too many companies doing that these days.
This doesn't mean I'm going to run out and buy one, but that's because they don't offer what I want to own right now. I wouldn't mind a V-Rod but I don't have a strong enough desire for a muscle/sport cruiser to spend the money.
Just to let you know, more of the Japanese companies have moved more of there production to the states. Toyota, Honda, Suzuki, to name a few, are building entire machines here from scratch. Very few of the parts are imported. And if you want to get technical, the M109 was designed here in the states based on focus groups.
I don't want to go keep going back and forth on this, I just want to explain myself and how I feel about this harley mentality. I think it sucks that so many have fell for the bullshit spewed out by this company. It goes to show how intelligent the masses really are.
Its like the motorcycle culture is Amish. Lets all go backwards, back to the simple times of horse and buggy. Yeah thats so much better then progressing with better technology for brakes, suspension,lighting, reliable engines etc... Cause technology is the devil.
This harley thing just makes me scratch my head, especially when I listen to them talk about long rides 150 miles, and how sore they are when they get home. Hell 150 miles for me is like goin around the block. And to think how much fun they could have riding something decent. :duh: it just makes me laugh.
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Falcon-A,
I respect your opinions, because they are YOURS. I must say, however, some of them have been espoused by myself in past years, so I am innocent of these feelings. But, after 50 years of riding, and riding many countries offerings, and all of the Japanese brands, I stand by my statement that on a given day, the bike you are riding is the best, if only because you are not walking.
"If you own both a harley and a Busa you definatly are an image driven individual."
How would you know I am an image-driven individual? I will grant you that I am often a desire-driven individual, but that is a characteristic of humanity that needs working on. I was taught at a young age that you cannot understand a person until you can stand in their shoes. I cannot stand in yours.
"You must have the right bike based on the group of people you intend to impress."
Do you think that I have intended to impress so many different groups in my life? Do you know me? How would you know if I intend to impress anyone? I ride for my pleasure only; I don't ride with Harley groups, Hayabusa groups, BMW groups, V-Max groups, or any groups. Call me a loner if you will. Occasionally I ride with a close acquaintance, perhaps for 15-75 miles. I think I did that back in 2002; we went to a dragstrip for about 2 hours. If you could see me, you would probably laugh at me. I am a healthcare practitioner who wears blue jeans and smocks, or a casual shirt. Were I to try to impress anyone, it would be the people I serve in my practice and I would be wearing a 3-piece suit. But I don't care what they think, I just want to improve their health. I only care what my closer family members think of me, and I try to be honest with them. But I also try to be honest with everyone else.
"I personally feel when I have to test ride a harley, that I am embarassed to be seen riding such a worthless rattling piece of shit."
I have to ask the question: Why, with your obvious feelings about Harley, do you HAVE TO TEST RIDE one? Were it me, I would never throw my leg over one, even for a free test ride.
"A full faced helmet with a tinted black sheild is what is needed."
I own 2 helmets; neither has a tinted black shield. I seldom wear either; a habit that comes from the belief that this is a free country and wearing a helmet should not be legislated. It is not a Harley carry-over.
"I would just like to know how you guys that own both could stand to ride one after riding better bikes (which is every other brand)?"
Well, I answered that question in my first post, before you asked it. If you don't understand, then you never will. However, I agree with you from the standpoint that the Harley design is archaic, going back over 100 years with minor improvements. You have to respect the H-D company; it survived many, many years against other competitive brands that fell by the wayside. And it did this by appealing to individuals as an inexpensive, exciting form of transportation. I still remember the first Japanese motorcycle that came to this country; it came after the five-and-dime store products, after the transistor radios, and was a small Honda. Honda changed the image of motorcycling in a good way. Honda got better and better, always with new factories and the latest technology. And by using OHC engines, economy of materials, etc. Harley pretty much stood still. It's major changes can be counted on your fingers. Possibly on one hand. For a long time the Suzuki Hayabusa was the epitome of motorcycling, based on the 1999 models 200+ mph.
Don't you find it odd that all of the Japanese motorcycles have started making V-Twins? Now before you say it, I understand that Japanese V-Twins incorporate technology that Harley has yet to employ; unless you count the V-Rod. I never liked the V-Rod.
BTW, I was also taught respect for others, even Harley, not "harley", and that in spelling "i" comes before "e" except after "c", at least most of the time.
Now, hasn't this been fun?
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As one of our recent dear presidents once said when caught with a misstatement in a debate: "There I go again!"
I say the same: There I go again!
In regards to my statement:
"I respect your opinions, because they are YOURS. I must say, however, some of them have been espoused by myself in past years, so I am innocent of these feelings."
I should have said: "...so I am NOT innocent of these feelings."
Or was I just jerking your chain? Hmmmmm....
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lowrider.......
inexpensive, exciting form of transportation :shock:
i think that is most peoples gripe with harley
inexpensive? no
exciting? well i guess in a dangerous kind of way lol
maybe if harley was promoting their bikes as throwback technology at throwback prices they wouldn't catch as much slack as they do. they promote a rebel individual style at above average prices
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BrianK
Yes, I agree.
Everything is over-promoted/over-marketed/over-advertised today. Often with sexual connotations to enhance the message. Other themes are popular, as well.
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sex does sell, i think that has been proven over and over :brk:
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Falcon-A,
I respect your opinions, because they are YOURS. I must say, however, some of them have been espoused by myself in past years, so I am innocent of these feelings. But, after 50 years of riding, and riding many countries offerings, and all of the Japanese brands, I stand by my statement that on a given day, the bike you are riding is the best, if only because you are not walking.
"If you own both a harley and a Busa you definatly are an image driven individual."
How would you know I am an image-driven individual? I will grant you that I am often a desire-driven individual, but that is a characteristic of humanity that needs working on. I was taught at a young age that you cannot understand a person until you can stand in their shoes. I cannot stand in yours.
"You must have the right bike based on the group of people you intend to impress."
Do you think that I have intended to impress so many different groups in my life? Do you know me? How would you know if I intend to impress anyone? I ride for my pleasure only; I don't ride with Harley groups, Hayabusa groups, BMW groups, V-Max groups, or any groups. Call me a loner if you will. Occasionally I ride with a close acquaintance, perhaps for 15-75 miles. I think I did that back in 2002; we went to a dragstrip for about 2 hours. If you could see me, you would probably laugh at me. I am a healthcare practitioner who wears blue jeans and smocks, or a casual shirt. Were I to try to impress anyone, it would be the people I serve in my practice and I would be wearing a 3-piece suit. But I don't care what they think, I just want to improve their health. I only care what my closer family members think of me, and I try to be honest with them. But I also try to be honest with everyone else.
"I personally feel when I have to test ride a harley, that I am embarassed to be seen riding such a worthless rattling piece of shit."
I have to ask the question: Why, with your obvious feelings about Harley, do you HAVE TO TEST RIDE one? Were it me, I would never throw my leg over one, even for a free test ride.
"A full faced helmet with a tinted black sheild is what is needed."
I own 2 helmets; neither has a tinted black shield. I seldom wear either; a habit that comes from the belief that this is a free country and wearing a helmet should not be legislated. It is not a Harley carry-over.
"I would just like to know how you guys that own both could stand to ride one after riding better bikes (which is every other brand)?"
Well, I answered that question in my first post, before you asked it. If you don't understand, then you never will. However, I agree with you from the standpoint that the Harley design is archaic, going back over 100 years with minor improvements. You have to respect the H-D company; it survived many, many years against other competitive brands that fell by the wayside. And it did this by appealing to individuals as an inexpensive, exciting form of transportation. I still remember the first Japanese motorcycle that came to this country; it came after the five-and-dime store products, after the transistor radios, and was a small Honda. Honda changed the image of motorcycling in a good way. Honda got better and better, always with new factories and the latest technology. And by using OHC engines, economy of materials, etc. Harley pretty much stood still. It's major changes can be counted on your fingers. Possibly on one hand. For a long time the Suzuki Hayabusa was the epitome of motorcycling, based on the 1999 models 200+ mph.
Don't you find it odd that all of the Japanese motorcycles have started making V-Twins? Now before you say it, I understand that Japanese V-Twins incorporate technology that Harley has yet to employ; unless you count the V-Rod. I never liked the V-Rod.
BTW, I was also taught respect for others, even Harley, not "harley", and that in spelling "i" comes before "e" except after "c", at least most of the time.
Now, hasn't this been fun?
I recanted my statement as I thought it was in bad taste. Sorry that you saw that. Sometimes I get too pissed off over stupidity. Other people being retarded can upset me at times, and I shouldn't let it bother me. I think quite a few people have a touch of downs syndrom.
I try to respect others opinions, yet I will admit I have trouble respecting someone that buys a harley. I think much less of the person because I feel that a little education would have made that person make a better decision. But hey I can't live everyones life, they have to find out the hard way like I have.
And to answer your question Why do I test ride harleys? Because we work on the pile of fucking dungs and have to ride them afterwards. Or when we trade them in same shit.
So yes my opinion at times can be a little direct and thoughtless, but it is well earned. Im sorry to offend. Sometimes the truth can hurt.
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Falcon-A,
You are a good man. Sometimes, it is hard to say what you just said. My hat is off to you!
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I OWN A HARLEY. HERITAGE SOFTAIL. LOVE IT FOR COMFORT. BUSA CANT COMPARE WITH COMFORT. BESIDES MY BUSA WILL PROBABLY GET ME KILLED IF I RODE IT ALL THE TIME. CANT SEEM TO CONTROL THE THROTTLE. HAD SPORTBIKES MOST MY LIFE. BUSA AFTER 30 MILES, I NEED TO STOP AND STRETCH BUT I AM 47 YEARS YOUNG
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Hey Flash I know exactly what your saying that why I have both, besides better half wont ride the busa, even across town. on the Harley she,d go across the country
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Hey Flash I know exactly what your saying that why I have both, besides better half wont ride the busa, even across town. on the Harley she,d go across the country
yep, my wife rode my first busa once. scared the hell out of her plus uncomfortable for both. gen 2 busa she rode once. i went slow because of breakin. still uncomfortable for both of us. made my wrist hurt. my harley keeps me at safe speeds on the streets. track use for busa.
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(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t58/busajack/testspikepissing034.jpg) Tell me one thing a Hardly does better than one of these for a third the price?? Jack :lol: :lol:
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(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t58/busajack/testspikepissing034.jpg) Tell me one thing a Hardly does better than one of these for a third the price?? Jack :lol: :lol:
A third the price? I do like the Rocket III but, a third the price they ain't. They're actually fairly close in price, depending on what model you choose. And, the one in the picture isn't stock by any means.
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I gotta throw one more thing in here. If you're bashing someone else's bike that brings them joy and that they can afford, you really are a dork who shouldn't be riding anything at all as, you haven't learned about the individuality of the pleasure of motorcycling. In other words, YOU'RE A SQUID. If, however, they jump your can about what you're riding, well then, whatever verbiage you wanna sling their way, they've got coming. And, it's NOT because of what they ride.
BTW, I don't own a Harley. I also don't hate Harley owners or think less of them because they've bought what makes them happy. Life's too short for that immature foolishness that I've been guilty of in the distant past when I was much younger. I only get annoyed when some fool opens his mouth to bash what I'm riding. Rarely has that come from a Harley guy and, I ride quite alot of poker runs on my VTX1800C. I've gotten many compliments from Harley guys, and close to zero smack talk.
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You are so right EtrnlSoldier, everything you said is right on! My buddies dad is my idol he is in his 70's and still rides plus his wife rides too and he has 10 bikes 5 Harleys, 2 BSA, 1 YAMAHA, 1 CUSHMAN, 1 KAWASAKI and he told me its not what you ride its that you ride!
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I got an 06 Busa, 06 Gixxer and this bike. There is nothing Harley about it, but I built it fron scratch in 1999. All 30K worth. Its got a 100 C.I. S$S motor in it. 1st and 2nd gear wheelies with just a twist of the throttle! It is abnoxiously loud too!! I did all the paint work (house of kolor too.
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I got an 06 Busa, 06 Gixxer and this bike. There is nothing Harley about it, but I built it fron scratch in 1999. All 30K worth. Its got a 100 C.I. S$S motor in it. 1st and 2nd gear wheelies with just a twist of the throttle! It is abnoxiously loud too!! I did all the paint work (house of kolor too.
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Looks awesome.
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It isn't that I am really concerned about what anyone rides, its that I am concerned that people won't even ride something because it doesn't have a certain name on it.
I only want to try to eliminate close minded thinking that really hinders people from enjoying and respect other bikes rather then buying a bike to fit into a cult. Being that I am in the cycle business, its not only aggrevating to listen to the harley bullshit, it sucks knowing that people go out and buy one without even experiencing other bikes.
To know that there are so many other bikes that people don't even give a chance to, because they don't have harley on the side, is just wrong.
Sad that people run out to buy a name rather then the best product, and if nobody ever says anything, it won't change. I have helped quite a few people to see the light.
I know I can't change the world, but I can make a dent in the stupidity.
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It isn't that I am really concerned about what anyone rides, its that I am concerned that people won't even ride something because it doesn't have a certain name on it.
I only want to try to eliminate close minded thinking that really hinders people from enjoying and respect other bikes rather then buying a bike to fit into a cult. Being that I am in the cycle business, its not only aggrevating to listen to the harley bullshit, it sucks knowing that people go out and buy one without even experiencing other bikes.
To know that there are so many other bikes that people don't even give a chance to, because they don't have harley on the side, is just wrong.
Sad that people run out to buy a name rather then the best product, and if nobody ever says anything, it won't change. I have helped quite a few people to see the light.
I know I can't change the world, but I can make a dent in the stupidity.
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Hey guys, this reply is directed to those of you who feel you must bad mouth the Harley,s nobody is asking you to go out and buy a Harley, but do you guys notice there,s no Harley only riders running there mouth about what a POS the jap bikes are and how they would never own one I,v had 5 Harley,s and proably a dozen UJMs over the years, including the Turbo Busa and one of the Honda,s is the only one that ever caused me to walk home come to think of it that bikes the only one that ever leaked oil. like I said at the beginning of this thread both bikes have there place and you should leave it at that :|
i am sure on the harley forums they are running their mouths :P
I onced joined a harley forum, only to be banned for trying to compare a harley to an import. I asked what they thought of the M109 and was ripped for 13 pages. SO don't come on here you guys and say anyone rips harley too much, because that isn't even close to what harley riders say about us.
Brian me and you could sit and drink a beer and have a lot of fun laughin about this stuff :beechug:
I'd like to join that party...I'll bring some beer :D :beechug:
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I know this is going to piss a few off here, but here goes my opinion anyway. I feel that harley is a total embarrassment to this country.
We pride ourselves on having the technology to be able to shoot a missle down a chimney from miles away, yet our example of motorcycle technology to the world is a shitty running V-twin turd, that barely can make its own way down the road without shaking itself apart.
To be proud to ride a bike that has been assembled by parts from all over the place, and at the same time trying to be an "American" icon, is just plain anti-patriotic!
If a company is going to promote itself as harley does, every god damn part should be made here in this country. NO excuses whatsoever for how it is now.
I have no complaints if you wanna ride one and cruise, because thats what it is, a "Cruiser". Its when they have to make that loud fart-like noise they make by taking the nice exhaust system off them that they come with, and parade around town screaming LOOK AT ME ROOM ROOOM LOOK AT ME that is the sickness that this machine promotes.
LOOK AT ME ROOM ROOOM LOOK AT ME!
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But to be honest and fair, not all harley riders are dicks. I've met a few that were cool and down to earth. But there's always that bunch with no baffles that rev their engines and like to scare little old ladies, children and dogs when passing by, that give all riders a black eye.
I agree :thumb:
I have friends that have Harleys and they're nice friends...I just like to have fun with that deal. :wink:
I know my Harley friends like me but they're not crazy about my Busa though... :bah:
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Harley Davidson is the worlds most efficient way to turn gasoline into noise without the harmful side effect of horsepower
A Harley is a loose collection of junk travelling in roughly the same direction
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Sorry, no offense, but thats some funny shit... :rfl:
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Hey guys, this reply is directed to those of you who feel you must bad mouth the Harley,s nobody is asking you to go out and buy a Harley, but do you guys notice there,s no Harley only riders running there mouth about what a POS the jap bikes are and how they would never own one I,v had 5 Harley,s and proably a dozen UJMs over the years, including the Turbo Busa and one of the Honda,s is the only one that ever caused me to walk home come to think of it that bikes the only one that ever leaked oil. like I said at the beginning of this thread both bikes have there place and you should leave it at that :|
i am sure on the harley forums they are running their mouths :P
I onced joined a harley forum, only to be banned for trying to compare a harley to an import. I asked what they thought of the M109 and was ripped for 13 pages. SO don't come on here you guys and say anyone rips harley too much, because that isn't even close to what harley riders say about us.
Brian me and you could sit and drink a beer and have a lot of fun laughin about this stuff :beechug:
I'd like to join that party...I'll bring some beer :D :beechug:
If you get up to Minnesota let me know. :beechug:
There is nothing funnier then sittin at the biker bar, watching the clown show. :joker: :moped:
There is a bar that a few of us go to that has a deck outside. From there you can watch the bikes pull in. Its amazing to watch. Its predominantly a harley hang out, so there is a lot of scrap metal comming and going.
I had to laugh one time when a girl commented on how nice this guys "harley" looked. He chewed her ass for callin his Honda a harley. Goes to show you that people can't tell the difference anyway so who gives a shit.
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While I don't own a Harley I do Own a tweaked out 01 Victory I also am fotunate enough to have an Turbo 05 Busa, a 05 999 Duc ,a 06 Goldwing , a 77 Honda 750 Supersport and a 75 GT550 Suzuki. I love bikes! and if you ask m twice to ride almost any motorcycle I am likley to be out on it a while . If you haven't ridden a Harley and you are bad mouthing it you are the definition of prejudice. If you have ridden it and don't care for it, say that. Persoanly I love the sound of a big V-twin underneath me on a warm autum loafing my way thru the New England countryside. Otherdays the busa underneath me brightens my day. Pick the right tool for the right job
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While I don't own a Harley I do Own a tweaked out 01 Victory I also am fotunate enough to have an Turbo 05 Busa, a 05 999 Duc ,a 06 Goldwing , a 77 Honda 750 Supersport and a 75 GT550 Suzuki. I love bikes! and if you ask m twice to ride almost any motorcycle I am likley to be out on it a while . If you haven't ridden a Harley and you are bad mouthing it you are the definition of prejudice. If you have ridden it and don't care for it, say that. Persoanly I love the sound of a big V-twin underneath me on a warm autum loafing my way thru the New England countryside. Otherdays the busa underneath me brightens my day. Pick the right tool for the right job
Yes unfortunatley I have riddin them. Too many times I have had to. I'm not going to get into it with you. I'm not going to bust the balls of real riders that will buy a bike to ride not to fit in. So what ever bike you choose to ride is fine with me, but don't expect me to respect your bike just because it has a certain name on it, or me to feel bad because I don't have a bike like yours. I choose to ride a bike for ME to enjoy not to enhance my image.
I just get tired of the mentality of it all. Who would have ever thought that a motorcycle could be any more then something to ride. Now its something to make an appearance on instead. :duh:
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While I don't own a Harley I do Own a tweaked out 01 Victory I also am fotunate enough to have an Turbo 05 Busa, a 05 999 Duc ,a 06 Goldwing , a 77 Honda 750 Supersport and a 75 GT550 Suzuki. I love bikes! and if you ask m twice to ride almost any motorcycle I am likley to be out on it a while . If you haven't ridden a Harley and you are bad mouthing it you are the definition of prejudice. If you have ridden it and don't care for it, say that. Persoanly I love the sound of a big V-twin underneath me on a warm autum loafing my way thru the New England countryside. Otherdays the busa underneath me brightens my day. Pick the right tool for the right job
Yes unfortunatley I have riddin them. Too many times I have had to. I'm not going to get into it with you. I'm not going to bust the balls of real riders that will buy a bike to ride not to fit in. So what ever bike you choose to ride is fine with me, but don't expect me to respect your bike just because it has a certain name on it, or me to feel bad because I don't have a bike like yours. I choose to ride a bike for ME to enjoy not to enhance my image.
I just get tired of the mentality of it all. Who would have ever thought that a motorcycle could be any more then something to ride. Now its something to make an appearance on instead. :duh:
I have to agree with you . If someone buys something t to be part of the crowd, then has the bad taste to badmouth my bike because " If it aint a motorcycle if it aint a ____________" Then they are a moron. Here in New England especially around June when the Laconia rally starts we get these bozos. Sadly enough while nowhere near as prevalent as the Harley Heard Mentality we see the “ If you aint in a racers crouch you aint riding” goobers too If it has 2 wheels and a motor and you like riding it More power to you!
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While I don't own a Harley I do Own a tweaked out 01 Victory I also am fotunate enough to have an Turbo 05 Busa, a 05 999 Duc ,a 06 Goldwing , a 77 Honda 750 Supersport and a 75 GT550 Suzuki. I love bikes! and if you ask m twice to ride almost any motorcycle I am likley to be out on it a while . If you haven't ridden a Harley and you are bad mouthing it you are the definition of prejudice. If you have ridden it and don't care for it, say that. Persoanly I love the sound of a big V-twin underneath me on a warm autum loafing my way thru the New England countryside. Otherdays the busa underneath me brightens my day. Pick the right tool for the right job
I'have ridden customs, not a Harley, and I don't care what brand it was, I don't like them. I think they're incompetent motorcycles, I'll go for a streetfighter, touring, s/sport, whatever, but not a custom. Like I said, I have good friends that own Harleys, and they understand that a Harley is just not a bike for me. I have nothing against that kind of people.
Call me prejudice all you want, I don't care. But I'm sick and tired of being snobbed by some other Harley riders, you know the kind, they play tough guy, spit on the ground, big belly, small arms, 55years old, try to scare old ladies, and they say japs are shitty motorcycles. We all know that's not the case.
And I agree with all that is said on this thread. :wink:
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Hey dave 393; I bet when you put up this post you didnt expect this :roll: :roll: :roll:
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I just read all of this topic. Like most, I have had many different bikes over the years. I am satified that I have the best touring Harley; a 2001 HD Road Glide. And, I have a 2006 'Busa. I have ridden both of them from Florida to the Dragon and many other places. The 'Busa has 12,500 miles on it. I probably will never sell the Road Glide. But, I would have never believed until I got one, that a 'Busa could be so much fun in so many different ways....from mountains, touring or using my nitrous. And, I am 59 years old...It is a "keeper" also.
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Hey Glideman, next time you plan a trip to the dragon let me know maybe we can hook up I live about 30 mins from there. for years I never thought I would have geezer glide 08 Ultra, but better half wont ride the busa I thought about nitrous but tore up to much stuff with it on my race car so I went turbo with the Busa
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Hey Glideman, next time you plan a trip to the dragon let me know maybe we can hook up I live about 30 mins from there. for years I never thought I would have geezer glide 08 Ultra, but better half wont ride the busa I thought about nitrous but tore up to much stuff with it on my race car so I went turbo with the Busa
I'll be up there in April or May and then again in October. I usually stay at the Kicktand Lodge on highway 28 (east[?] of Fontana Lodge). PM me whenever you want to.....
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I wil look you up first part of april
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I have never owned a Harley, not saying that I wouldn't. At this time, age, I feel the need for speed.
I have many friends with Harley's and have never had any of them trash talk any of my bikes. Some just F**k**g
around, but most say they would love to own one so they could play. Honestly, very few times have I been snobbed
by a Harley rider, much more by other sportbike riders. To each their own. They bad mouthing of Harley's or metric
bikes is no worse than the bad mouthing between the different brands of metric bikes. Enjoy what you have and let
others enjoy what they have. It's all about the ride and what you want out of it, not the name!
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Very well said Weed :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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I have never owned a Harley, not saying that I wouldn't. At this time, age, I feel the need for speed.
I have many friends with Harley's and have never had any of them trash talk any of my bikes. Some just F**k**g
around, but most say they would love to own one so they could play. Honestly, very few times have I been snobbed
by a Harley rider, much more by other sportbike riders. To each their own. They bad mouthing of Harley's or metric
bikes is no worse than the bad mouthing between the different brands of metric bikes. Enjoy what you have and let
others enjoy what they have. It's all about the ride and what you want out of it, not the name!
Must be the area you are in. It sure would be nice to live where nobody gives a shit what you ride, but just that you ride.
Only one question I have, in your statement you said that quite a few guys would like to have a Busa to play on, then why don't they get one? Its a fraction of the price of what a harley is?
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Sadly over the many years I`ve been riding and in and around bikes, the only experiences I`ve had with Harleys and Harley dealers have been really crap.
After I spat my rag out big style in my local Harley shop at some spotty kid who claimed to be the parts manager and with as much customer skill as a prison warder,
my Harley exeprience was complete. The bikes are rubbish mechanically and the dealer service is equally rubbish.
If I decide to get a laid back cruiser in the future, it will be a Jap one. But the likelihood of me ever getting a cruiser is very small.
It isnt just the Harley bikes...... its the crap culture that goes with it :thumb:
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I think that for most of us "living the dream" is 50 years out of date :thumb: :lol: :lol:
For my side it isnt a hater thing, its just modern superbikes from Japan and the EU do it infinitely better.
If somethings crap, then lets be honest and say its crap ? We do`nt do PC in our house.
This new fangled Socialist thing about not saying anything or anyone is rubbish does get on my tits :P
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I think that for most of us "living the dream" is 50 years out of date :thumb: :lol: :lol:
For my side it isnt a hater thing, its just modern superbikes from Japan and the EU do it infinitely better.
If somethings crap, then lets be honest and say its crap ? We do`nt do PC in our house.
This new fangled Socialist thing about not saying anything or anyone is rubbish does get on my tits :P
Its the mentality of it that pisses me off. People actually believe that a harley is the ultimate machine.
If you can't look at a harley and see what it is, I don't know what else to tell ya. For Christ sake if the Japanese or Germans or anyone else would make something as shitty, nobody would touch it with a ten foot stick. Yet harley can make something as crude as can be and people will spend nearly twice then a Busa costs to buy it. Go figure.
Why do I care? Well for one thing I lost a friend that I grew up with, because his pile broke down on the side of the road exposing him to being hit by a car.
Now tell me over and over how Jap bikes break down too, and I will tell you that I see 100 harleys to on anything else broke down making you walk.
I also think that if nobody says anything, people will buy this old technology, and not ever know how nice and safe a bike they could have had even spending less cash. But hey, they were never told to look.
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There are some great posts here!! LOL! Letting someone hold your jacket while their OL's giving you a BJ!!! Classic. Couple others too, but I'm forgetting them...
Well, I've got a HD and looking to get a busa. No hurry, maybe an 08, 09 or Gen I if someone's gotta get a new one so bad I can steal their old one LOL!
Yeah, lotsa posers, catalogue riders, etc. .. just more azzholes to disregard. Already had a lifestyle, so didn't need someone else's. Got off cheap -- don't own chaps, no dew rags or skid-lid and no collection of stick-on tatoos. Wife doesn't like bikes and she's good-lookin', so no fat old skank with big titties to hang off the back either LOL!! Maybe fix that at the next DC ride after Hillary loses if she's up for a bike ride :vl:!!
As for the bike, my first HD after 30+ years of others. I like it just fine. Did a little work on it and do a little street/drag racing and kinda like smokin' cocky metric cruiser boys, poser types, etc. Kinda like that deer-in-the-headlights look ya get when you're an un-stylish older guy on a kinda stock-lookin' HD and ya just spanked someone who figures they should have won!
Downside to the busa - everyone knows it's fast and I'll have to learn to ride it or I'll be the one getting spanked!
FWIW, I lurk here a lot and y'all have a nice board. Entertaining too! Keep the rubber side down fellas! :thumb:
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for you harley people
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that bitch is clean
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not a hd but what do you think
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not a hd but what do you think
That is fantastic. Looks like the kind of Diner/Garage I'd like to hang out in!!!!!
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Oh, I saw a blue Rocker-C at the Harley dealer and it was amazingly sweet.
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not a hd but what do you think
That is fantastic. Looks like the kind of Diner/Garage I'd like to hang out in!!!!!
Now THATs pretty damn cool, and look it even has an inline four, not some damn rattlin out of balance fart-noise V-twin. Imagine that folks.
That bike as old as it is, is more technologically advanced then a new harley. And to think people actually still buy harleys, what that says to the rest of the world: "Hey other countries, come on over and kick our stupid ass"
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the other side
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I had a 02 FXDX Pearl white 95" 136 hp Jerry Branch motor. "Dynod". Braided lines, sintered pads, 52mm flat slide, yost power tube, hypercharger, pc3, back cut gears, scorpion clutch ... and alot more goodies. $31k into it. Couldn't get the high speed wobble out of it. 80 mph right hand sweepers killed me. Added a fork stabilizer, fork brace and performance progressive rate springs. Couldn't afford to keep dumping $$$$$$$$$ into it. Traded it for a brand new 06 LE. New, zero miles. Straight across. Busa is much mere enjoyable. Much more reliable. All Ive done to it in 10,000 miles is tires and oil changes.
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I had a 02 FXDX Pearl white 95" 136 hp Jerry Branch motor. "Dynod". Braided lines, sintered pads, 52mm flat slide, yost power tube, hypercharger, pc3, back cut gears, scorpion clutch ... and alot more goodies. $31k into it. Couldn't get the high speed wobble out of it. 80 mph right hand sweepers killed me. Added a fork stabilizer, fork brace and performance progressive rate springs. Couldn't afford to keep dumping $$$$$$$$$ into it. Traded it for a brand new 06 LE. New, zero miles. Straight across. Busa is much mere enjoyable. Much more reliable. All Ive done to it in 10,000 miles is tires and oil changes.
Haveing had several harleys myself thats one thing I have to agree with they are NOT high speed machines no matter hoe much HP you put in it except for maybe the V-Rod some heavly modifyed race only bikes do ok but generaly harleys are not comfortable getting it way over a ton, My 08 Ultra is the most comfortable bike my wife and I have ever ridden at 70-80 MPH run 90-100 it dont like it at all
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I had a 02 FXDX Pearl white 95" 136 hp Jerry Branch motor. "Dynod". Braided lines, sintered pads, 52mm flat slide, yost power tube, hypercharger, pc3, back cut gears, scorpion clutch ... and alot more goodies. $31k into it. Couldn't get the high speed wobble out of it. 80 mph right hand sweepers killed me. Added a fork stabilizer, fork brace and performance progressive rate springs. Couldn't afford to keep dumping $$$$$$$$$ into it. Traded it for a brand new 06 LE. New, zero miles. Straight across. Busa is much mere enjoyable. Much more reliable. All Ive done to it in 10,000 miles is tires and oil changes.
Did it have the solid front wheel?
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I had a 02 FXDX Pearl white 95" 136 hp Jerry Branch motor. "Dynod". Braided lines, sintered pads, 52mm flat slide, yost power tube, hypercharger, pc3, back cut gears, scorpion clutch ... and alot more goodies. $31k into it. Couldn't get the high speed wobble out of it. 80 mph right hand sweepers killed me. Added a fork stabilizer, fork brace and performance progressive rate springs. Couldn't afford to keep dumping $$$$$$$$$ into it. Traded it for a brand new 06 LE. New, zero miles. Straight across. Busa is much mere enjoyable. Much more reliable. All Ive done to it in 10,000 miles is tires and oil changes.
Did it have the solid front wheel?
Those solid wheels were a bright idea. :duh:
There sure is a lot to be said about function over style.
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Yea, they look great but they act like sails in the wind at any speed. At higher speeds, even without natural environmental wind, the turbulence around the wheel normally created by any motorcycle causes the solid wheels to dance around horribly. I have a couple of buddies who own Fatboys with these wheels. I've ridden them. Over 85mph the bikes start to "dance" around the road. Not cool.
I do like some Harley models, and the reliability isn't bad like it used to be (I go on bike runs with them all the time on my VTX). It's pretty rare to see a late model Harley broken down on the side of the road. I have friends who cross the country on theirs several times a year with no issues. My VTX, great bike that it is, is currently in the shop with a coolant leak from the rear cylinder. Looks like maybe a head gasket or even a warped head. Hopefully the extended warranty I bought will cover it. I have quite a few friends with Harleys who have twice the mileage on their bikes that I have on my VTX, and have had no issues whatsoever.
To each their own.
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OOPS-I made a mistake. I stated that I had a pc3. It was a Head Quarters HQ-6100 ignition. I was looking for a pc3 on line and had a brain "carb fart". Sorry for the confusion. This bike was built for track days / dragracing 98% of the time. The other 2% was for Test and tune. I never stated that it was for street. I had alot of fun with this bike. I just thought that Id have more fun on a Busa. I found out later that this bike - the FXDX -does have a death wobble caused by the frame design. Someone in California developed a peice that connects the swing arm with the transmission. They also use it on the Road King to help with stability. They called it "True Track". No solid wheel. It had the 13 spoke stock cast wheels.
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Yea, they look great but they act like sails in the wind at any speed. At higher speeds, even without natural environmental wind, the turbulence around the wheel normally created by any motorcycle causes the solid wheels to dance around horribly. I have a couple of buddies who own Fatboys with these wheels. I've ridden them. Over 85mph the bikes start to "dance" around the road. Not cool.
I do like some Harley models, and the reliability isn't bad like it used to be (I go on bike runs with them all the time on my VTX). It's pretty rare to see a late model Harley broken down on the side of the road. I have friends who cross the country on theirs several times a year with no issues. My VTX, great bike that it is, is currently in the shop with a coolant leak from the rear cylinder. Looks like maybe a head gasket or even a warped head. Hopefully the extended warranty I bought will cover it. I have quite a few friends with Harleys who have twice the mileage on their bikes that I have on my VTX, and have had no issues whatsoever.
To each their own.
It does not make any diff if a Harley has solid wheels or spokes, on stock Cruser,Geezer type bikes they just do not go fast, but are just the ticket for pileing up the miles and not haveing the shit beat out of you doing it, I have had several motorcycles over the years UJMs of all kinds, a trumpet a beezer, norton commando and 4 differant Harleys and you know what they say about knocking on wood but NONE of the Harleys left me walking, most of the others cant say that
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Yea, they look great but they act like sails in the wind at any speed. At higher speeds, even without natural environmental wind, the turbulence around the wheel normally created by any motorcycle causes the solid wheels to dance around horribly. I have a couple of buddies who own Fatboys with these wheels. I've ridden them. Over 85mph the bikes start to "dance" around the road. Not cool.
I do like some Harley models, and the reliability isn't bad like it used to be (I go on bike runs with them all the time on my VTX). It's pretty rare to see a late model Harley broken down on the side of the road. I have friends who cross the country on theirs several times a year with no issues. My VTX, great bike that it is, is currently in the shop with a coolant leak from the rear cylinder. Looks like maybe a head gasket or even a warped head. Hopefully the extended warranty I bought will cover it. I have quite a few friends with Harleys who have twice the mileage on their bikes that I have on my VTX, and have had no issues whatsoever.
To each their own.
It does not make any diff if a Harley has solid wheels or spokes, on stock Cruser,Geezer type bikes they just do not go fast, but are just the ticket for pileing up the miles and not haveing the shit beat out of you doing it, I have had several motorcycles over the years UJMs of all kinds, a trumpet a beezer, norton commando and 4 differant Harleys and you know what they say about knocking on wood but NONE of the Harleys left me walking, most of the others cant say that
Umm, actually, the solid front wheels do indeed make a difference over 85 mph. HUGE difference. Harleys that have them exhibit the problem I outlined. Harleys that don't, don't. I've experienced it personally and, it's simple physics. As far as the rest of what you said, well, I pretty much said the same thing, even going as far as admitting that my VTX is now experiencing a serious problem that none of my friends' Harleys have.
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Yea, they look great but they act like sails in the wind at any speed. At higher speeds, even without natural environmental wind, the turbulence around the wheel normally created by any motorcycle causes the solid wheels to dance around horribly. I have a couple of buddies who own Fatboys with these wheels. I've ridden them. Over 85mph the bikes start to "dance" around the road. Not cool.
I do like some Harley models, and the reliability isn't bad like it used to be (I go on bike runs with them all the time on my VTX). It's pretty rare to see a late model Harley broken down on the side of the road. I have friends who cross the country on theirs several times a year with no issues. My VTX, great bike that it is, is currently in the shop with a coolant leak from the rear cylinder. Looks like maybe a head gasket or even a warped head. Hopefully the extended warranty I bought will cover it. I have quite a few friends with Harleys who have twice the mileage on their bikes that I have on my VTX, and have had no issues whatsoever.
To each their own.
It does not make any diff if a Harley has solid wheels or spokes, on stock Cruser,Geezer type bikes they just do not go fast, but are just the ticket for pileing up the miles and not haveing the shit beat out of you doing it, I have had several motorcycles over the years UJMs of all kinds, a trumpet a beezer, norton commando and 4 differant Harleys and you know what they say about knocking on wood but NONE of the Harleys left me walking, most of the others cant say that
Umm, actually, the solid front wheels do indeed make a difference over 85 mph. HUGE difference. Harleys that have them exhibit the problem I outlined. Harleys that don't, don't. I've experienced it personally and, it's simple physics. As far as the rest of what you said, well, I pretty much said the same thing, even going as far as admitting that my VTX is now experiencing a serious problem that none of my friends' Harleys have.
My 08 Ultra gets twitchy right around 95MPH and it has factory spoke wheels
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Well I'm sorry to hear that but, if you had a solid front wheel, that twitchiness would happen sooner and be far worse.
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Well I'm sorry to hear that but, if you had a solid front wheel, that twitchiness would happen sooner and be far worse.
I have ben told that by other geezer riders, thing I had a sportster that was worked on a little that would do 125 and was solid as a rock
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Well I'm sorry to hear that but, if you had a solid front wheel, that twitchiness would happen sooner and be far worse.
I have ben told that by other geezer riders, thing I had a sportster that was worked on a little that would do 125 and was solid as a rock
I don't doubt that at all.
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Wish I still had that bike :(
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I cant believe I'm saying this, but; I wish I could afford to have my FXDX back. She--- "Mrs. Beasley" had personality plus .
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Thats what guys who never owned a Harley don't understand, they are not the fastest, not the latest technology, does not sould like a pissed bumble bee, but they are cool :thumb: :bling:
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Thats what guys who never owned a Harley don't understand, they are not the fastest, not the latest technology, does not sould like a pissed bumble bee, but they are cool :thumb: :bling:
I agree with everything but the "cool" part. I have a hard time thinking anything that back-asswards is cool. Cool to me is something that doesn't shake itself to pieces, and performs like a switch watch.
Cool are excellent brakes, lighting, modern state of the art suspensions and fantastic engines with outputs in the tripple digits, that don't feel ready to explode when they hit 6 grand!
Uncool is something that makes more noise then something else that puts out nearly three times the horsepower! Potato potato :moped:
Uncool is the way folks dress to try to be cool. :joker:
And last but not least, Uncool is the price people are willing to pay to be cool, or at least think that they are cool. :rfl: :brk:
I almost forgot how UNCOOL fringy things are hangin on the ends of your handlebars :ohman:
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Thats what guys who never owned a Harley don't understand, they are not the fastest, not the latest technology, does not sould like a pissed bumble bee, but they are cool :thumb: :bling:
I agree with everything but the "cool" part. I have a hard time thinking anything that back-asswards is cool. Cool to me is something that doesn't shake itself to pieces, and performs like a switch watch.
Cool are excellent brakes, lighting, modern state of the art suspensions and fantastic engines with outputs in the tripple digits, that don't feel ready to explode when they hit 6 grand!
Uncool is something that makes more noise then something else that puts out nearly three times the horsepower! Potato potato :moped:
Uncool is the way folks dress to try to be cool. :joker:
And last but not least, Uncool is the price people are willing to pay to be cool, or at least think that they are cool. :rfl: :brk:
I almost forgot how UNCOOL fringy things are hangin on the ends of your handlebars :ohman:
Cant you never give it a rest man
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Thats what guys who never owned a Harley don't understand, they are not the fastest, not the latest technology, does not sould like a pissed bumble bee, but they are cool :thumb: :bling:
I agree with everything but the "cool" part. I have a hard time thinking anything that back-asswards is cool. Cool to me is something that doesn't shake itself to pieces, and performs like a switch watch.
Cool are excellent brakes, lighting, modern state of the art suspensions and fantastic engines with outputs in the tripple digits, that don't feel ready to explode when they hit 6 grand!
Uncool is something that makes more noise then something else that puts out nearly three times the horsepower! Potato potato :moped:
Uncool is the way folks dress to try to be cool. :joker:
And last but not least, Uncool is the price people are willing to pay to be cool, or at least think that they are cool. :rfl: :brk:
I almost forgot how UNCOOL fringy things are hangin on the ends of your handlebars :ohman:
Cant you never give it a rest man
I'm sorry Dave did I tell a lie?
And the answer is NO I can't let it rest until this stupidity is over. Stupidity and ignorance hurts me. If you can't understand why I rip on those damn things, I will try to help you to understand. Its not just the bikes, its the mentality of the guys riding them.
I'd love to see what can be had by technology. There is so much more technology that we haven't even seen yet. Because of the idiots stuck in the past, so many motorcycle companies keep producing :moped:
rather then producing better and better bikes.
Yamaha for one puts nearly all its efforts into reproducing pushrod V-twins :duh:
THANK GOD Some companies like Suzuki are not falling for the fad which so many people are sucked into, and are producing awesome high-tech bikes. :thumb:
Its because guys like you promote crap like harleys as cool. Kids and other uninformed people think YOU will think they are cool if they ride that stuff. :stupid: Thats why it continues. Its not cool, it was back when it was new technology, about 50 years ago. Now we have safer better technology from every aspect.
No bike should vibrate or feel unsafe under 100 mph in this day in age. Hell even up here in MN some of the interstate hwys move nearly that fast at times. You had better be able to exceed that to get away from assholes that screw with you.
Heck I think we should go back to the horse and buggy like the Amish. Lets forget the gas powered engine and go to steam or real horses. That would be "cool" wouldn't it?
Dave try to understand. It should be looked at as retarded to buy a harley for what you get for $ spent.
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Thats what guys who never owned a Harley don't understand, they are not the fastest, not the latest technology, does not sould like a pissed bumble bee, but they are cool :thumb: :bling:
I agree with everything but the "cool" part. I have a hard time thinking anything that back-asswards is cool. Cool to me is something that doesn't shake itself to pieces, and performs like a switch watch.
Cool are excellent brakes, lighting, modern state of the art suspensions and fantastic engines with outputs in the tripple digits, that don't feel ready to explode when they hit 6 grand!
Uncool is something that makes more noise then something else that puts out nearly three times the horsepower! Potato potato :moped:
Uncool is the way folks dress to try to be cool. :joker:
And last but not least, Uncool is the price people are willing to pay to be cool, or at least think that they are cool. :rfl: :brk:
I almost forgot how UNCOOL fringy things are hangin on the ends of your handlebars :ohman:
Cant you never give it a rest man
I'm sorry Dave did I tell a lie?
And the answer is NO I can't let it rest until this stupidity is over. Stupidity and ignorance hurts me. If you can't understand why I rip on those damn things, I will try to help you to understand. Its not just the bikes, its the mentality of the guys riding them.
I'd love to see what can be had by technology. There is so much more technology that we haven't even seen yet. Because of the idiots stuck in the past, so many motorcycle companies keep producing :moped:
rather then producing better and better bikes.
Yamaha for one puts nearly all its efforts into reproducing pushrod V-twins :duh:
THANK GOD Some companies like Suzuki are not falling for the fad which so many people are sucked into, and are producing awesome high-tech bikes. :thumb:
Its because guys like you promote crap like harleys as cool. Kids and other uninformed people think YOU will think they are cool if they ride that stuff. :stupid: Thats why it continues. Its not cool, it was back when it was new technology, about 50 years ago. Now we have safer better technology from every aspect.
No bike should vibrate or feel unsafe under 100 mph in this day in age. Hell even up here in MN some of the interstate hwys move nearly that fast at times. You had better be able to exceed that to get away from assholes that screw with you.
Heck I think we should go back to the horse and buggy like the Amish. Lets forget the gas powered engine and go to steam or real horses. That would be "cool" wouldn't it?
Dave try to understand. It should be looked at as retarded to buy a harley for what you get for $ spent.
To each their own, for whatever reason. One of the most intelligent people I know, and quite a few other smart folks that I associate with regularly, own Harleys. To say that stupidity is the motivator isn't always correct. Let me tell you what I've learned about Harleys over the last 5 or so years, after a lifetime of hating them and the attitude that sometimes comes with them. Some people actually like them for their qualities! *gasp* "Qualities" you say? Well, for starters, your average Harley gets about 55 mpg, has a fuel gauge (my VTX does not and, gets crappy mileage), breaks down VERY infrequently (again, see my post regarding my VTX and it's coolant leak problem), and offers touring options that really aren't found anywhere else. No, really. I do not now, nor have I ever, owned a Harley. Not sure I ever will. However, the truth is forcing me to rethink some of my previous opinions.
For the money spent? Can you put a price on happiness? And, to make my VTX do everything that my friends Harleys do (mileage, bags, "comfort" features for the woman, etc), it would end up costing just as much as the same Harley, but I'd have to do the mods myself. Some things, like reliability (imagine that) and customer service aren't something that can be fixed for any amount of money. Yes, my metric cruiser is alot of fun. It's fast (for a cruiser), has a ton of torque, etc. But, on long rides with the Harley boys, it's annoying having to stop for gas so often. It's annoying having nylon bags that are aftermarket instead of OEM hard bags that hold 3-4 times as much stuff.
There are indeed reasons that intelligent, normal people buy Harleys. It's not always all about the hype and attitude.
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Are`nt Harley sales well down in the US ?
Maybe the dream is getting a bit stale ??
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HOS, yes sales are way down.
Etrnl while I can appreciate what your saying, my answer is that you picked the wrong metric cruiser. The VTX is nothing more then a cheap copy of an already existing cruiser line. I'm sorry if I offend you. I am more then familier with the VTX line and wouldn't recommend them for several reasons. Honda did not put much effort into that engine, its plagued with internal design flaws.
The bikes has a poor center of gravity and sharp turns will unexpectedly scrape the pegs very early in the turn. It feels very top heavy and unbalanced.
What is happening, and I have been trying to explain it, is this whole harley BS thing that has been tiredly going on, is holding back technology. Most of the cycle companies are trying to copy and are putting all their efforts into the looks of the bike rather then performance, reliability, miliage, etc....trying to get a piece of the cruiser market. I have been preaching FUNCTION OVER STYLE for years!
If the public is trying to buy looks (coolness) rather then function, this is what we will get for product. Think about it.
Now instead of copying, Suzuki is at least trying new things. Example the 109 series. They are one of the few companies that are moving forwards trying new bold looks and ideas.
Its going to take time and education and it will eventually change.
You are correct that harleys can get better miliage, but thats about the only decent aspect. If you think reliability is better you should visit with my friend that works at a HD dealership. Its all hush hush when it comes to warranty work being done. He told me they still leak on the sales floor.
Don't kid yourself they still have more problems then all the imports put together.
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well i got a 03 busa and bought a 1992 fat boy softail 13 something motor hell i don't know but i got i t for 7 racks and it is clean as the board of health and before i bought it i never rode a Harley in my life and damn near didn't know how to take off on the damn thing and had to learn how to change gears on it with the toe and heel shit and it was rather different but i got it now and i think I'm gonna learn to like it you should see me coming leg cocked up and i bet you damn sho hear me coming right know the hardest decision i got to make is which bike I'm gone take
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well i got a 03 busa and bought a 1992 fat boy softail 13 something motor hell i don't know but i got i t for 7 racks and it is clean as the board of health and before i bought it i never rode a Harley in my life and damn near didn't know how to take off on the damn thing and had to learn how to change gears on it with the toe and heel shit and it was rather different but i got it now and i think I'm gonna learn to like it you should see me coming leg cocked up and i bet you damn sho hear me coming right know the hardest decision i got to make is which bike I'm gone take
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And to think a member private'd me for mispelling than/then :rfl:
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:evil:
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Thats what guys who never owned a Harley don't understand, they are not the fastest, not the latest technology, does not sould like a pissed bumble bee, but they are cool :thumb: :bling:
I agree with everything but the "cool" part. I have a hard time thinking anything that back-asswards is cool. Cool to me is something that doesn't shake itself to pieces, and performs like a switch watch.
Cool are excellent brakes, lighting, modern state of the art suspensions and fantastic engines with outputs in the tripple digits, that don't feel ready to explode when they hit 6 grand!
Uncool is something that makes more noise then something else that puts out nearly three times the horsepower! Potato potato :moped:
Uncool is the way folks dress to try to be cool. :joker:
And last but not least, Uncool is the price people are willing to pay to be cool, or at least think that they are cool. :rfl: :brk:
I almost forgot how UNCOOL fringy things are hangin on the ends of your handlebars :ohman:
Cant you never give it a rest man
I'm sorry Dave did I tell a lie?
And the answer is NO I can't let it rest until this stupidity is over. Stupidity and ignorance hurts me. If you can't understand why I rip on those damn things, I will try to help you to understand. Its not just the bikes, its the mentality of the guys riding them.
I'd love to see what can be had by technology. There is so much more technology that we haven't even seen yet. Because of the idiots stuck in the past, so many motorcycle companies keep producing :moped:
rather then producing better and better bikes.
Yamaha for one puts nearly all its efforts into reproducing pushrod V-twins :duh:
THANK GOD Some companies like Suzuki are not falling for the fad which so many people are sucked into, and are producing awesome high-tech bikes. :thumb:
Its because guys like you promote crap like harleys as cool. Kids and other uninformed people think YOU will think they are cool if they ride that stuff. :stupid: Thats why it continues. Its not cool, it was back when it was new technology, about 50 years ago. Now we have safer better technology from every aspect.
No bike should vibrate or feel unsafe under 100 mph in this day in age. Hell even up here in MN some of the interstate hwys move nearly that fast at times. You had better be able to exceed that to get away from assholes that screw with you.
Heck I think we should go back to the horse and buggy like the Amish. Lets forget the gas powered engine and go to steam or real horses. That would be "cool" wouldn't it?
Dave try to understand. It should be looked at as retarded to buy a harley for what you get for $ spent.
To each their own, for whatever reason. One of the most intelligent people I know, and quite a few other smart folks that I associate with regularly, own Harleys. To say that stupidity is the motivator isn't always correct. Let me tell you what I've learned about Harleys over the last 5 or so years, after a lifetime of hating them and the attitude that sometimes comes with them. Some people actually like them for their qualities! *gasp* "Qualities" you say? Well, for starters, your average Harley gets about 55 mpg, has a fuel gauge (my VTX does not and, gets crappy mileage), breaks down VERY infrequently (again, see my post regarding my VTX and it's coolant leak problem), and offers touring options that really aren't found anywhere else. No, really. I do not now, nor have I ever, owned a Harley. Not sure I ever will. However, the truth is forcing me to rethink some of my previous opinions.
For the money spent? Can you put a price on happiness? And, to make my VTX do everything that my friends Harleys do (mileage, bags, "comfort" features for the woman, etc), it would end up costing just as much as the same Harley, but I'd have to do the mods myself. Some things, like reliability (imagine that) and customer service aren't something that can be fixed for any amount of money. Yes, my metric cruiser is alot of fun. It's fast (for a cruiser), has a ton of torque, etc. But, on long rides with the Harley boys, it's annoying having to stop for gas so often. It's annoying having nylon bags that are aftermarket instead of OEM hard bags that hold 3-4 times as much stuff.
There are indeed reasons that intelligent, normal people buy Harleys. It's not always all about the hype and attitude.
I agree with all that you said. But maybe you bought the wrong bike. You keep talking about long runs and confort...I think you should have bought a Gold Wing. No Harley can compare to a gold Wing, forget about engine problems, and the ladie would be vevy happy to sit on that big confortable sofa behind. I also know normal peoples that bought Gold Wing. :D
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AND the Wing is made here in Ohio. Yes its made here in the USA. Some of the nicest folks ride a Honda.
I went to the Gold wing rally down in New Hampton Iowa. It was fun, very quiet and full of really cool decent and polite folks :thumb: Funny thing tho, most rode their bikes there, I can't recall seeing a trailer anywhere?? And no fat naked chicks.
I would ride a Wing in a heart beat. I enjoy the Busa too much yet, but someday I will more then Likely own a Wing. :kickass:
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Thats what guys who never owned a Harley don't understand, they are not the fastest, not the latest technology, does not sould like a pissed bumble bee, but they are cool :thumb: :bling:
I agree with everything but the "cool" part. I have a hard time thinking anything that back-asswards is cool. Cool to me is something that doesn't shake itself to pieces, and performs like a switch watch.
Cool are excellent brakes, lighting, modern state of the art suspensions and fantastic engines with outputs in the tripple digits, that don't feel ready to explode when they hit 6 grand!
Uncool is something that makes more noise then something else that puts out nearly three times the horsepower! Potato potato :moped:
Uncool is the way folks dress to try to be cool. :joker:
And last but not least, Uncool is the price people are willing to pay to be cool, or at least think that they are cool. :rfl: :brk:
I almost forgot how UNCOOL fringy things are hangin on the ends of your handlebars :ohman:
Cant you never give it a rest man
I'm sorry Dave did I tell a lie?
And the answer is NO I can't let it rest until this stupidity is over. Stupidity and ignorance hurts me. If you can't understand why I rip on those damn things, I will try to help you to understand. Its not just the bikes, its the mentality of the guys riding them.
I'd love to see what can be had by technology. There is so much more technology that we haven't even seen yet. Because of the idiots stuck in the past, so many motorcycle companies keep producing :moped:
rather then producing better and better bikes.
Yamaha for one puts nearly all its efforts into reproducing pushrod V-twins :duh:
THANK GOD Some companies like Suzuki are not falling for the fad which so many people are sucked into, and are producing awesome high-tech bikes. :thumb:
Its because guys like you promote crap like harleys as cool. Kids and other uninformed people think YOU will think they are cool if they ride that stuff. :stupid: Thats why it continues. Its not cool, it was back when it was new technology, about 50 years ago. Now we have safer better technology from every aspect.
No bike should vibrate or feel unsafe under 100 mph in this day in age. Hell even up here in MN some of the interstate hwys move nearly that fast at times. You had better be able to exceed that to get away from assholes that screw with you.
Heck I think we should go back to the horse and buggy like the Amish. Lets forget the gas powered engine and go to steam or real horses. That would be "cool" wouldn't it?
Dave try to understand. It should be looked at as retarded to buy a harley for what you get for $ spent.
To each their own, for whatever reason. One of the most intelligent people I know, and quite a few other smart folks that I associate with regularly, own Harleys. To say that stupidity is the motivator isn't always correct. Let me tell you what I've learned about Harleys over the last 5 or so years, after a lifetime of hating them and the attitude that sometimes comes with them. Some people actually like them for their qualities! *gasp* "Qualities" you say? Well, for starters, your average Harley gets about 55 mpg, has a fuel gauge (my VTX does not and, gets crappy mileage), breaks down VERY infrequently (again, see my post regarding my VTX and it's coolant leak problem), and offers touring options that really aren't found anywhere else. No, really. I do not now, nor have I ever, owned a Harley. Not sure I ever will. However, the truth is forcing me to rethink some of my previous opinions.
For the money spent? Can you put a price on happiness? And, to make my VTX do everything that my friends Harleys do (mileage, bags, "comfort" features for the woman, etc), it would end up costing just as much as the same Harley, but I'd have to do the mods myself. Some things, like reliability (imagine that) and customer service aren't something that can be fixed for any amount of money. Yes, my metric cruiser is alot of fun. It's fast (for a cruiser), has a ton of torque, etc. But, on long rides with the Harley boys, it's annoying having to stop for gas so often. It's annoying having nylon bags that are aftermarket instead of OEM hard bags that hold 3-4 times as much stuff.
There are indeed reasons that intelligent, normal people buy Harleys. It's not always all about the hype and attitude.
I agree with all that you said. But maybe you bought the wrong bike. You keep talking about long runs and confort...I think you should have bought a Gold Wing. No Harley can compare to a gold Wing, forget about engine problems, and the ladie would be vevy happy to sit on that big confortable sofa behind. I also know normal peoples that bought Gold Wing. :D
Can't bring myself to do the GoldWing thing yet. Maybe in 20 more years...
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AND the Wing is made here in Ohio. Yes its made here in the USA. Some of the nicest folks ride a Honda.
So is the VTX. Marysville Ohio. My uncle works at the plant. However, next year will see the cessation of Honda motorcycle manufacturing in the U.S.
Info here. (http://www.ohio.com/business/16065127.html)
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Thats what guys who never owned a Harley don't understand, they are not the fastest, not the latest technology, does not sould like a pissed bumble bee, but they are cool :thumb: :bling:
I agree with everything but the "cool" part. I have a hard time thinking anything that back-asswards is cool. Cool to me is something that doesn't shake itself to pieces, and performs like a switch watch.
Cool are excellent brakes, lighting, modern state of the art suspensions and fantastic engines with outputs in the tripple digits, that don't feel ready to explode when they hit 6 grand!
Uncool is something that makes more noise then something else that puts out nearly three times the horsepower! Potato potato :moped:
Uncool is the way folks dress to try to be cool. :joker:
And last but not least, Uncool is the price people are willing to pay to be cool, or at least think that they are cool. :rfl: :brk:
I almost forgot how UNCOOL fringy things are hangin on the ends of your handlebars :ohman:
Cant you never give it a rest man
I'm sorry Dave did I tell a lie?
And the answer is NO I can't let it rest until this stupidity is over. Stupidity and ignorance hurts me. If you can't understand why I rip on those damn things, I will try to help you to understand. Its not just the bikes, its the mentality of the guys riding them.
I'd love to see what can be had by technology. There is so much more technology that we haven't even seen yet. Because of the idiots stuck in the past, so many motorcycle companies keep producing :moped:
rather then producing better and better bikes.
Yamaha for one puts nearly all its efforts into reproducing pushrod V-twins :duh:
THANK GOD Some companies like Suzuki are not falling for the fad which so many people are sucked into, and are producing awesome high-tech bikes. :thumb:
Its because guys like you promote crap like harleys as cool. Kids and other uninformed people think YOU will think they are cool if they ride that stuff. :stupid: Thats why it continues. Its not cool, it was back when it was new technology, about 50 years ago. Now we have safer better technology from every aspect.
No bike should vibrate or feel unsafe under 100 mph in this day in age. Hell even up here in MN some of the interstate hwys move nearly that fast at times. You had better be able to exceed that to get away from assholes that screw with you.
Heck I think we should go back to the horse and buggy like the Amish. Lets forget the gas powered engine and go to steam or real horses. That would be "cool" wouldn't it?
Dave try to understand. It should be looked at as retarded to buy a harley for what you get for $ spent.
To each their own, for whatever reason. One of the most intelligent people I know, and quite a few other smart folks that I associate with regularly, own Harleys. To say that stupidity is the motivator isn't always correct. Let me tell you what I've learned about Harleys over the last 5 or so years, after a lifetime of hating them and the attitude that sometimes comes with them. Some people actually like them for their qualities! *gasp* "Qualities" you say? Well, for starters, your average Harley gets about 55 mpg, has a fuel gauge (my VTX does not and, gets crappy mileage), breaks down VERY infrequently (again, see my post regarding my VTX and it's coolant leak problem), and offers touring options that really aren't found anywhere else. No, really. I do not now, nor have I ever, owned a Harley. Not sure I ever will. However, the truth is forcing me to rethink some of my previous opinions.
For the money spent? Can you put a price on happiness? And, to make my VTX do everything that my friends Harleys do (mileage, bags, "comfort" features for the woman, etc), it would end up costing just as much as the same Harley, but I'd have to do the mods myself. Some things, like reliability (imagine that) and customer service aren't something that can be fixed for any amount of money. Yes, my metric cruiser is alot of fun. It's fast (for a cruiser), has a ton of torque, etc. But, on long rides with the Harley boys, it's annoying having to stop for gas so often. It's annoying having nylon bags that are aftermarket instead of OEM hard bags that hold 3-4 times as much stuff.
There are indeed reasons that intelligent, normal people buy Harleys. It's not always all about the hype and attitude.
I agree with all that you said. But maybe you bought the wrong bike. You keep talking about long runs and confort...I think you should have bought a Gold Wing. No Harley can compare to a gold Wing, forget about engine problems, and the ladie would be vevy happy to sit on that big confortable sofa behind. I also know normal peoples that bought Gold Wing. :D
Can't bring myself to do the GoldWing thing yet. Maybe in 20 more years...
The guy that works next to me has one. He said that the new gen is a fantastic évolution compare to the older model. If you ever have a chance to try it, go for it, you'll be surprised.
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Sorry to see any manufactureing jobs leave the country, but in Hondas case I can see why. and I'm not saying this to start another round of Bullshit,but the way Honda sees it they want the top cruser/geezer market back. because now the big Harleys are out selling the gold wings and Honda dont like it. Harleys are just a bit more money, but are out front in popularity, therefore selling better. Iknow theres a ton of Wings out there,but if your around Daytona, Sturgis, or just about any of the larger bike shows there seems to be two tons of Harleys, I personaly have nothing against a nice Gold Wing. but better half says they look like a car with two wheels. I have the Busa but when it comes to the family cruiser, her choice is the Harley. like I said personaly I could have went ether way they are both big, heavy and comfortable, and the Wings a bunch faster, but dont need that (i have the Busa) they both have compareable warrantys, and reliability, and please dont start no shit you can go to the honda shop or the harley shop they are both working on there own bikes sorry to go on. but theres nothing much to do today its colder than dammit out
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Wings are pretty damn good lookin bikes. With a single sided swing arm and a frame much like that of the Busa, its a treat to ride :thumb:
If your worried about what people would think of you riding one, just think of the guys dressed in all black, little gay leather vest covered in pin-ons, sportin fringy things on the ends of the bars riding a bike that puts out about 60 horse fartin his way down the road. :moped: NOTHING AND I MEAN NOTHING looks funnier then that to non-riders, and many riders including me and others I know.
After seeing that repeated scene several thousand times, I can't imagine anyone embarrassed to look LESSS gay then that.
Really who gives a f**k what we look like, as long as its a blast to ride, and actually has more power then noise. :thumb: I have seen some very cool lookn wings.
The only gripe I have with the Wing is that they should have notched the fairing just above the engine so your leg doesn't rub against it when you have highway bars on it. Other then that Daym that bike is a blast to ride. It may look big, but all that goes away when your on it. It feels nimble and very well powered. It will easily exceed 100 and won't scare you in a corner.
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Check this out...big, heavy, but sporty. :thumb:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nrMQ3QwyPo&feature=related
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Falcon-A, there's one for you. :wink:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whVXD3ex9DA&feature=related
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Check this out...big, heavy, but sporty. :thumb:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nrMQ3QwyPo&feature=related
If anybody ran that road as much as that yellow wing does they would be fast no matter what they were on. I watched the dude ride he's good
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Falcon-A, there's one for you. :wink:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whVXD3ex9DA&feature=related
That kind of dipshit stuff is why there is so many LEOs up there now you get a ticket for 6MPH over a bud of mine got a real ass ripping on his ZX-10 for 36 MPH can you beleve that. I make it up there 2-3 times a month when weather permits when its cold out you dont want to go cause its twice as cold up there and the stores closed in winter so theres no place to stop and warm up. last summer just as season was starting 3 people were killed in one day on that road, basicly from what you seen in that vidio (ignorance), and just for the record theres a bunch more sportbikes go down on that road than cruisers. because they do dipshit stuff to they are just going faster
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Check this out...big, heavy, but sporty. :thumb:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nrMQ3QwyPo&feature=related
If anybody ran that road as much as that yellow wing does they would be fast no matter what they were on. I watched the dude ride he's good
It was just to show that you don't need to be 60 to enjoy a GoldWing. It's a very capable machine, I'm not sure you could do that with a Harley, the V-Rod maybe, but not a FLH.
Sportbikes going down in the twisties!!!! Where did you see that? :wink:
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I dont know if a Harley will do as well as that gold wing but like I said before if you were going up and down that road as much as that guy you wold get good even if you were on a Harley Geezer, I meen your not going to run with even a average sportbike and those motards are freakin awsome those guys absolutly fly but you ride any bike on that road long enough you will get fast if you dont crash much
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i have a roadking and a busa wouldnt change anything its nice to have a little change had them both in daytona wish i would of put my harley on the dyno now that would of been really funny just remember 2 wheels is a motorcycle not all can be as lucky my first was a CB350 and had a lot of good times on that one
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Mine was a 750 Honda had that bike while my wife and I were still young put allmost 25000 miles on that bike in 3 years and thats a acomplishment for upstate NewYork didn't think i'd ever sell that bike, well you know stuff happens
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Wing riders don't care about harley riders, they just laugh at them. And can you blame them for laughing? Hell at least when you spend as much on a Wing as you do on a harley you actually get someting for your money other then a fart-noise low tech pile of dung.
Good Videos guys :thumb:
I especially like the harley guy goin off the road. (Although I don't wanna see anyone get hurt) I'm sure it was blamed on something else besides a big heavy bike that DOESN'T turn well that came stock with shitty outdated bias ply, tall sidewall tires, and cheap ass forks. (All for the sake of fashion)
I think quite a few of you guys understand what I am saying. I am not trying to tell you harley/Busa owners that your stupid, but when there are much better bikes out there to buy, I have a hard time respecting your judgement choosing to buy hd.
Get out there guys and ride some Wings, and ride some V-stroms and other bikes. Then you will understand what is to be had out there. Your missing out on some fun stuff. Forget the harleys at least until they make bikes that are up to the same standards as other bikes half their price. It really makes a poor impression of you to people that know. Your IQ is in question.
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heres a little info for ya we were on our way back from the horsepower shoot out in Daytona on I 95 and seen 6 harleys sitting on the side of the road helping a lonely sportbike rider on a R1 that just lost it doing a stand up wheelie bike was trashed and rider was pretty fucked up like i said before bike are bikes and it is good to know that there are harley riders out there that are willing to lend a hand.
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heres a little info for ya we were on our way back from the horsepower shoot out in Daytona on I 95 and seen 6 harleys sitting on the side of the road helping a lonely sportbike rider on a R1 that just lost it doing a stand up wheelie bike was trashed and rider was pretty fucked up like i said before bike are bikes and it is good to know that there are harley riders out there that are willing to lend a hand.
Good story, its nice that people lend a hand in time of need no matter what they ride. It still doesn't change the facts discussed prior.
I would like you to give me a reason or example of how harleys are safer then any other bikes. They ought to be for as long as that company has been making bikes. But what technologies has harley brought to the world to improve rider safety? I can't think of any.
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Interesting thread. I've owned harleys for 20 years, still got the first one I bought. When I decided to buy a new bike I kinda lost interest in the brand when the local dealers started offering manicure and pedicure nights!!
Bought a Busa instead (the harleys don't get ridden much anymore). Damn but the Busa's a ot of fun!!
Still you gotta admit theres something very cool about cruisin one of the old ones (I'm thinking of adding a 59 pan to the collection, it would be a cool bar hopper)