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TECHNICAL => MODS => Topic started by: Dutchman on September 05, 2010, 10:08:03 AM
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Hello
Did some one already put 05 R1 wheels on a busa
I thinki saw some grudgebikes with this
I was thinking how the cushdrive is holding up on the big horsepower bikes
And they are very light wheels
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I was thinking the same thing. I saw someone that had them and they are sounding pretty good to me. does anyone make any spacers for them? is it a simple swap over or do you have to change the shafts out/swap to different wheel bearings? hopefully someone chims in on this?
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Yes right i was thinking to use all parts of the wheels axle brakecaliper to complete
thing and make some spacers
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I did the swap...the rear is a direct bolt on no problems...the front you need a different front axle...I got mine from a guy on psycho bike website named chopleg...he sells them for like 120 shipped...it's billet and pretty nice...after that you have to space the calipers...that's easy with some washers...but I saved about 8lbs and the 5 stars look great
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Got that axle on this one.
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hope the pic comes out...this 150KB is killing me :cussing: :bh:
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Those R1 wheels do look great on a Busa. Are the R1 front rotors the same diameter as the Busa??
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The front rotors are the same size on a 2004-2006 R1, 320mm, 2007 R1 and up are the same size as a Gen2, 310 mm
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yea you need the 04-06 so you get enough grip
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I used the stock R1 front axle on my bike. I have the 06 gsxr 1000 forks, I just machined the r1 axle down on the allen bolt side so it fits thru the opposite fork leg of the gsxr fork. And made a billet bushing to fill gap between other fork leg and axle. Would post pics but havent figured out how to, always get a file to large error.
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Confused,
email me all the pictures you have and I'll post them for you, if you like.
sleeperbusa@aol.com
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I used the stock R1 front axle on my bike. I have the 06 gsxr 1000 forks, I just machined the r1 axle down on the allen bolt side so it fits thru the opposite fork leg of the gsxr fork. And made a billet bushing to fill gap between other fork leg and axle. Would post pics but havent figured out how to, always get a file to large error.
I'll have to get it tonight after work. PB is messing me up.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/SLEEPERBUSA/r1_zps4a995fb9.jpg)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/SLEEPERBUSA/r111_zps1281cacc.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/SLEEPERBUSA/r11_zps1a789f38.jpg)
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so the other side will fit clean.
put a pic of the other side
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The other side was machined down to a smaller diameter to fit into fork leg clamp.
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Ok cool
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any dimensions on the spacer you made? Is it aluminum?
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I had it written down somewhere but where I don't know. I will be pulling wheel off to have a new tire put on in the next few days , and remeasure it. Also remember that the forks are Gsxr 1000 forks so its diff fro0m gen1 forks that I know of for sure. Dont know if gen2 forks are same or not.
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(1.5710" length) (1.2590" O.D.) (.8710 I.D.)
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i did a complete write up on this mod.R1 wheels on a 2nd gen busa ,with all the dimensions for the front & rear set up to include use of stock R1 front axel cut down dims,spacing of rotor (f&R).front bushings & the axel to fork liner bushings for PB forum.as i have this set up on my 2nd gen busa.the front rim does have .182'' offset.use the rear R1 brake assy .i even give the proper front rotor shouldered bolts size & the correct rotor spacers bushings.it is complete & pretty staight forward.
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Post a link to your write up.
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i will do one better,i will write up my total mod with all dims & purchase items (rotor spacer bushing&shouldered bolts)tomorrow.
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when talking about small or large end, i'm referring to the fork ends that the axel goes through.the small spacer end will be .807'' thick ,the larger end will be .625'' thick. being that the fork tube axel holes are larger than the R1,you will need to increase just the outboard o.d. to 1.500'' for both wheel spacers. this is the portion of the spacer that rest up against the forks (use the stock R1 spacer as a comparison). the R1 axel is a smaller diameter than the busa axel so you will need to shim the R1 axel to fit the busa forks by way of machined (out of aluminum)sleeves.the dims for the sleeves are:large end o.d. of 1.258'' -i.d. of 1.104''-length of 1.595'' .you will have a wall thickness of .077''. small end sleeve o.d. of .981'' i.d. of .868'' wall thickness of .0565'' length of 1.595'' . .002'' will be your axel clearance to sleeve.next is to shortened the R1 axel.machine .170'' off the small end & .075'' off the big end.R1 axel should have a after machined length of 9.470''.axel bolt will need a end washer size i.d 9/16 o.d. 1-9/32'' or1-5/16''.front rotors need to be spaced out .240'' to line up with calipers.order from grainger-part#6te19 alum spacers (10 come in a pack.sized.250''.you can hand sand them down to .240'' or run them as is..010'' off per side is o.k.). graiger part # 6eu30 8mm shouldered bolts,order 2 packs.these are for rotor bolts.
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now for the rear.use the R1 rear brake assy.i ordered my triangle brake stay from adams perf.it is their brake stay for the 2nd gen busa chromoly swingarm set up .for use with R1 rear brake assy you will need to drill the ADAMS stay hole out a little as the R1 bolt used to bolt the stay in place is larger than the busa bolt.i ordered a light weight yana-shiki rear brake rotor for the R1 rim.i'm using 09' R1 & up rims assy,also i am using the stock 09' R1 front rotors (little better cooling/lighter than the 08' & older).to space the rear rim,use a 1/8 washer on the outboard of the sprocket drive side & with R1 rear brake hanger use a spacer of 3/8''between hanger & swingarm.to note i'm using a chromoly swingarm.well thats it boys, i hope this helps.if anyone needs help ,pm your tele# and i will further explain. the R1 rear axel and busa axel is of the same diameter.
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these dims are for a 2nd gen busa.might work on gsxr 1000 also (i don't know what years).
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So what is the weight difference between the R1 setup and the aftermarket wheels i.e. Marchesini etc?
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yea you need the 04-06 so you get enough grip
So what are the differences between the 04-06 and the 07 up front wheel? IS it just the rotor? Could you just buy a front from a 04-up and just source a 04-06 front brake rotor for the newer front wheel?
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just the rotors are tad lighter & have better heat dissipation because of the factory radial edge of the rotor is grooved.all of the R1 -5 spoke rims are the same.i cut just over 6 lbs in total weight when i switched from the busa rims to the R1 rims,to include lightweight rear yana shiki rotor,low profile pirelli 90/80-17 mt75 front tire & shinko hook up rear tire.
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as far as the aftermarket rims in price compared to the R1 mod price,i don't know.if it's maybe another 3 lbs more in savings but cost $2,000.00 then i rather put that money someplace else.like in savings or a retirement fund.
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Sounds good thanks Shorttrack
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does anyone know who has the axles swap for a gen 1 to a r1wheel?
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This is what the R1's I put on my bike weighed minus tires.
Front with two Galfer rotors - 15.775 lbs.
Rear assembly Galfer rotor and aluminum sprocket - 17.345 lbs.
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If anyone comes around the front axle I'm in need here.
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This is what the R1's I put on my bike weighed minus tires.
Front with two Galfer rotors - 15.775 lbs.
Rear assembly Galfer rotor and aluminum sprocket - 17.345 lbs.
how much weight did you save total?
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Total weightsaings is what, gentlemen? Just curious. Front and rear. And total.
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All else being equal(rotors weighing the same,using same tires,sprocket,etc) a reputable source has told me 1-2lbs over OEM Suzuki.