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GENERAL => MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE => Topic started by: slatroni on April 02, 2011, 07:43:25 PM
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The 10 day forcast calls for a 40% chance of showers............... Then what? Will the event be called off due to rain? :eek:
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Is the scheduled date the 17th?
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Is the scheduled date the 17th?
10th, and my bike is in pieces.
waaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :(
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Is the scheduled date the 17th?
10th, and my bike is in pieces.
waaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :(
Just looked it up,hope it doesn't damn get rained out.
(you gonna have that thing back together in time,older dude? :lol:)
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The 10 day forcast calls for a 40% chance of showers............... Then what? Will the event be called off due to rain? :eek:
accuweather pro shows no rain whatsoever on the 10th.
light E & W winds
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Steve,
Found a better forecast for ya,says 68 and sunny. :lol: :tu:
http://www.weather.com/weather/extended/USCA0715?par=yahoo&site=www.yahoo.com&promo=extendedforecast&cm_ven=Yahoo&cm_cat=www.yahoo.com&cm_pla=forecastpage&cm_ite=CityPage
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The 10 day forcast calls for a 40% chance of showers............... Then what? Will the event be called off due to rain? :eek:
accuweather pro shows no rain whatsoever on the 10th.
light E & W winds
Yeah Steve,the one i just posted doesn't show any rain either...where in the hell were you lookin'? :lol:
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It's not going to rain. I've paid off some VERY important people to make sure! :bike:
BTW guys, there will be an ELECTRIC bike there next week, too -- that should be interesting!
Mike B.
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It's not going to rain. I've paid off some VERY important people to make sure! :bike:
BTW guys, there will be an ELECTRIC bike there next week, too -- that should be interesting!
Mike B.
:lol: :tu:
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Thanks Fellas! My bike is not a Harley but it can't get rain on it just the same! :hys: 68 deg during the day but I bet it will be in the 40's at night.
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Thanks Fellas! My bike is not a Harley but it can't get rain on it just the same! :hys: 68 deg during the day but I bet it will be in the 40's at night.
We were up there last year in March and it was colder than a well digger's ass,April should be better. :lol: :tu:
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How much time is spent sitting in line? Can i push the bike to the starting line? If its to warm it wont start. 24volt system when i get back.
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How much time is spent sitting in line? Can i push the bike to the starting line? If its to warm it wont start. 24volt system when i get back.
Yep,you can push it up and just fire it right before it's your turn(at least that's how it's been in the past).You'll have a good time. :tu:
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I cant wait! I have been packed for a week!
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Can we get a roll call? Who all is coming?
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I cant wait! I have been packed for a week!
I can believe it,never seen anyone so fired up(good for you bro). :lol: :tu:
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Your first is always the best, I think that goes for racing too......
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Your first is always the best, I think that goes for racing too......
:lol: :tu:
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I am going, you coming up Jeff?
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Can we get a roll call? Who all is coming?
Jay,
darn it, i'm gonna sit this one out; bad leakdown after Texas.
Just need to touch up the seats, but not going to be done this weekend :(
have fun guys! :thumb:
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I am going, you coming up Jeff?
Morning Scott,
Not sure as of yet buddy,i may just hop on my old turd and cruise up that way early Sunday morning.Are you running,and is John Boy coming?I'll know for sure by Sat.
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Yall out there in California, need to give the "California Kid" a call...& get him rousted back up!!!
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Yall out there in California, need to give the "California Kid" a call...& get him rousted back up!!!
Hi Bob,
I've known Wild Bill/California Kid for about 4 years now(Wild Bill to me,that's one ornery old dude :lol:)and have his #/owe him a call(from a few months ago,i'm bad with phones),i'll rattle his chain in a day or two and see what he's up to. :tu:
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Can we get a roll call? Who all is coming?
We're coming with 4 bikes:
Me (turbo Busa and 2011 ZX-10)
wife: Ninja 250
Justin: Ninja 1000
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We're coming with 4 bikes:
Me (turbo Busa and 2011 ZX-10)
wife: Ninja 250
Justin: Ninja 1000
Please do a BIG feature and spread on all of these bikes if they are racing 1-Mile... :thumb:
I like to consider 1-Mile the new performance standard... :lol:
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Can we get a roll call? Who all is coming?
We're coming with 4 bikes:
Me (turbo Busa and 2011 ZX-10)
wife: Ninja 250
Justin: Ninja 1000
+1, I'm very interested in how that 2011 ZX10 runs :thumb:
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I am going, you coming up Jeff?
Morning Scott,
Not sure as of yet buddy,i may just hop on my old turd and cruise up that way early Sunday morning.Are you running,and is John Boy coming?I'll know for sure by Sat.
I'll be up Sunday morning,though just to spectate and harass everybody in general(talked to John Boy last night,he's in :tu:). :lol:
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I am going, you coming up Jeff?
Morning Scott,
Not sure as of yet buddy,i may just hop on my old turd and cruise up that way early Sunday morning.Are you running,and is John Boy coming?I'll know for sure by Sat.
I'll be up Sunday morning,though just to spectate and harass everybody in general(talked to John Boy last night,he's in :tu:). :lol:
We haven't seen any sort of schedule as to when the bikes run or how many passes we can expect, etc. Anybody?
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I am going, you coming up Jeff?
Morning Scott,
Not sure as of yet buddy,i may just hop on my old turd and cruise up that way early Sunday morning.Are you running,and is John Boy coming?I'll know for sure by Sat.
I'll be up Sunday morning,though just to spectate and harass everybody in general(talked to John Boy last night,he's in :tu:). :lol:
We haven't seen any sort of schedule as to when the bikes run or how many passes we can expect, etc. Anybody?
Scratch that, it was right in front of our faces!. Sorry.
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I am going, you coming up Jeff?
Morning Scott,
Not sure as of yet buddy,i may just hop on my old turd and cruise up that way early Sunday morning.Are you running,and is John Boy coming?I'll know for sure by Sat.
I'll be up Sunday morning,though just to spectate and harass everybody in general(talked to John Boy last night,he's in :tu:). :lol:
We haven't seen any sort of schedule as to when the bikes run or how many passes we can expect, etc. Anybody?
The schedule is posted on their website.
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So far, it looks like we have 100-110 racers on the grid. We expect to get 60-70 runs per hour, or over 500 runs in if all goes smoothly. Last year, with a field of 94, we had about 20 racers hot-lapping during the last 2 hours of the event, and one racer made a total of 22 runs. So, I think you can expect to get several runs in pretty easily.
Edit: Current Grid list is now posted on the Mojave Mile forums. I'll see you all (that are coming) this weekend!
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Weather for Sunday: Low 44, high 65, sunny w/NO RAIN! (I told you I paid off some important people!) :hys:
Humidity 53%, westerly winds to 15 mph, which means a quartering tailwind. Looks like good horsepower weather!
Mike B.
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Anyone know when the 1st runs start,maybe around 8:00 AM?
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8 AM sharp, until 5:00 PM or everyone gives up! :tu:
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8 AM sharp, until 5:00 PM or everyone gives up! :tu:
Or your engine blows.
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8 AM sharp, until 5:00 PM or everyone gives up! :tu:
:tu:
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8 AM sharp, until 5:00 PM or everyone gives up! :tu:
Or your engine blows.
:hys:
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Mike,
which direction are you gonna run it, Accuweather Pro has wind coming from SW.
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Hope you boys are bringin' some extra clothes and sticky tires,low of 37 tonight/high in the 60's tomorrow. :lol:
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Hope you boys are bringin' some extra clothes and sticky tires,low of 37 tonight/high in the 60's tomorrow. :lol:
I am gonna freeze my ass off riding up there today go over the moutain passes.
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Hope you boys are bringin' some extra clothes and sticky tires,low of 37 tonight/high in the 60's tomorrow. :lol:
I am gonna freeze my ass off riding up there today go over the moutain passes.
Mornin' Scott,
Yeah you will,maybe that extra "padding" you've accumulated since last year will help(works for me in that cold ass ocean). :lol:
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I was going to stop by the hotel on the way home tonight. Anyone going to be there?
Jay
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Any updates? Hope Mother Nature is cooperating :mrgreen:
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Any updates? Hope Mother Nature is cooperating :mrgreen:
i hope they took Accuweather advice and ran SE to NW, winds are being good today for that direction.
Looking at yesterdays wind, they dodged a serious high wind bullet.
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I just got a call the John Noonan JUST CRASHED :grn: !
He is awake ,and alert in the Ambulance !
I was told at half track the bike just went out from under him {Like Jason's Blown Tire@B-Vill :eek:}
He,and Michelle have been a Big influence in my LSR,and I PRAY He will be OK :angel:!
GOD PLEASE BLESS HIM and HER,AS THEY JUST GOT MARRIED :lv1:...........
S/K
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Hope he is ok! Prayers sent for you John...
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Hope he is ok! Prayers sent for you John...
He's got 1 FAST GAURDIAN ANGLE :angel2: ! AMEN.....................
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I am standing next to John right now, he is fine. He sorry for holding the event up.......
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I am standing next to John right now, he is fine. He sorry for holding the event up.......
Good to hear.
Bill
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I am standing next to John right now, he is fine. He sorry for holding the event up.......
That's J/N for ya 8) !
Thank God :clp:.
Tell him to take care,and take Michelle to the Mountains for their Honeymoon :wink:!
{They Live like 5 minutes from the Beach so the ocean is no big deal for them :luv:}
She's do for a Vacation/Honeymoon away from Racing :hrt:
Love Always,
Kaz.................... :tu:
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Thats great news John is OK "well walking wounded anyhow" :thumb:
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Thats great news John is OK "well walking wounded anyhow" :thumb:
Puh, good to hear that John is ok :tu:
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I am standing next to John right now, he is fine. He sorry for holding the event up.......
Glad he is OK! How bad was the get off? Yay for good gear.
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Glad that he's okay and that he went down at 1/2 track instead of the top end where his speed would have been much higher.
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Is this the bike that he was on?
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/tricktom1/217016_10150155528979228_556669227_6427020_6854620_n.jpg)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/tricktom1/207281_10150155528869228_556669227_6427018_1330733_n.jpg)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/tricktom1/215167_10150155529149228_556669227_6427022_7740762_n.jpg)
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WOW what motor is in that Tom ?
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Good to hear John is ok, Thats a lot of fairing :shock:
Scott how are you doing ?? Jim messaged he ran 195 on a busa with a small shot of nos , and should do better with the bottle heater on
Who else is running ?? :D
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Is this the bike that he was on?
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/tricktom1/217016_10150155528979228_556669227_6427020_6854620_n.jpg)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/tricktom1/207281_10150155528869228_556669227_6427018_1330733_n.jpg)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/tricktom1/215167_10150155529149228_556669227_6427022_7740762_n.jpg)
yes, he was on that thing. I heard he had a damn hard time getting it down the track @ 225 his first pass.
Bill
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WOW..so glad John is relatively ok...
must be some radically different partially streamlined rules at Mohave...:)...
not sure how much center of pressure/center of gravity played...
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Is this the bike that he was on?
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/tricktom1/217016_10150155528979228_556669227_6427020_6854620_n.jpg)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/tricktom1/207281_10150155528869228_556669227_6427018_1330733_n.jpg)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/tricktom1/215167_10150155529149228_556669227_6427022_7740762_n.jpg)
yes, he was on that thing. I heard he had a damn hard time getting it down the track @ 225 his first pass.
Bill
Who did you here that from? The bike ran fine, it was a shake down and there was no problem getting to that speed.
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Best wishes John from us in Phoenix John.
glad your ok :tu:
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Glad to hear John isn't hurt too badly. That is some wild looking bodywork.
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Is this the bike that he was on?
That's the bike Tom just after we finished with everything last night.
Just so everyone knows we dropped John off at home about an hour or so ago and Michelle was going to take him to the doctor to get a good going over.
He has some injuries, but he is/and will be fine. John in a tough SOB to go down at that speed.
Scott
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whew!!!
Glad John is OK; tough bastid for sure. :thumb:
Scott, what direction did they run it??
how did you do?
Karl
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whew!!!
Glad John is OK; tough bastid for sure. :thumb:
Scott, what direction did they run it??
how did you do?
Karl
We ran the opposite of the March meet, which I believe is SE.
I ran my stock street bike with nothing worth mentioning.
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Glad John is ok !! Neat looking ride !!! I would just build one for speed not class rules, what i mean is just go real fast in front of a crowd..at a meet somewhere and you don't claim the record..thats all!! Your the fastest and everyone knows it !!
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Is this the bike that he was on?
That's the bike Tom just after we finished with everything last night.
Just so everyone knows we dropped John off at home about an hour or so ago and Michelle was going to take him to the doctor to get a good going over.
He has some injuries, but he is/and will be fine. John in a tough SOB to go down at that speed.
Scott
:thumb: how fast was he going and do you know what the cause was?
Thanks
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Tom they said it was about 1/2 way down the track........
edit..my bad i see that you posted something similar...
Joe :)
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Tom we are not what caused the accident, yet. We did not get a time slip as he went down right before the traps. It was a very very fast pass, when Scott Horner and I pulled the GPS from the bike I took a picture and this is what we saw.
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/IMAG0279.jpg)
Is this the bike that he was on?
That's the bike Tom just after we finished with everything last night.
Just so everyone knows we dropped John off at home about an hour or so ago and Michelle was going to take him to the doctor to get a good going over.
He has some injuries, but he is/and will be fine. John in a tough SOB to go down at that speed.
Scott
:thumb: how fast was he going and do you know what the cause was?
Thanks
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If he was going 314 at half track it must have been rocket propelled... :D
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Wow glad to hear he is ok for the most part. Cool looking body work though for sure.
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Wow just read this... GLAD JOHNS OK!!!! :thumb:
The things we do for speed :wink:
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Tom we are not what caused the accident, yet. We did not get a time slip as he went down right before the traps. It was a very very fast pass, when Scott Horner and I pulled the GPS from the bike I took a picture and this is what we saw.
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/IMAG0279.jpg)
That's the bike Tom just after we finished with everything last night.
Just so everyone knows we dropped John off at home about an hour or so ago and Michelle was going to take him to the doctor to get a good going over.
He has some injuries, but he is/and will be fine. John in a tough SOB to go down at that speed.
Scott
:thumb: how fast was he going and do you know what the cause was?
Thanks
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Scott,
that GPS Looks Familiar ?
I traded it to John for his Old Version 1
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{ it had a little bigger Numbers, and I didn't have to read a book to use :oops:}
My Big Brotha/& Tuner Gil Nevarez-He is with Carroll Shelby now.
Called me right when it happened,and was Very Worried as he said "it was a Bad 1 :grn:"
IS THAT in MPH :eek:?
Was the rear Blown?
I've been with him racing in a flash flood@ Bonnieville {Even My Crazy A$$$ wouldn't get out of the truck :jw: !}
So I know what a Great LSR Racer he is. :scrwy:
It had to be Mechanical,but Gil said it was kinda Cold out ?
I was Not there and just reported what I was told 1st hand right after it happened.
Just Glad he's Alive :angel:.
Thank you for the update,
Kaz..................
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I am glad to hear John is OK!
Steve
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Kaz - Myself and John's racing partner Bob were in que to run next and watched from a mile away. It was a very scary set of events and our heart dropped, everytime someone got on the radio you are praying for good news. We are all glad that John came out of the crash alive.
Slatroni - Sorry I didn't get to catch up with you more as we packed up and left early. I hope you were able to get the speeds you were looking for as I know how hard it is to get a bike down the track and obtain a certain speed. Really glad we got to meet and that you got some passes in, I am sure you will be back as this stuff is addicting.
Scott
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I'm anxious to hear what the cause is so that we can all learn from it.
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I'm anxious to hear what the cause is so that we can all learn from it.
X 10
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Tom we are not what caused the accident, yet. We did not get a time slip as he went down right before the traps. It was a very very fast pass, when Scott Horner and I pulled the GPS from the bike I took a picture and this is what we saw.
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/IMAG0279.jpg)
This picture is ridiculous, you insult ALL of us by posting it to let us assume his speed and you are a fool if for an instant you think he was any where near that speed. :ssht:
I am very glad John is OK.
Bill
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There is a reason that The SCTA outlawed dustbin fairings.
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There is a reason that The SCTA outlawed dustbin fairings.
There were 4 in our group from SSB who all had the same reaction when we first saw the rolling egg—it was going to end badly. Fortunately John's OK, but that setup looked a bit too unproven for the application.
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...talking about a "setup being too unproven"...to a gentlemen who likely has more lsr time under
his belt than anyone out there....think about it.......
everyone cant be a "FOLLOWER"....
SSB im sure you mean WELL to all, myself and im sure others are abit sensative..about these things...
lets show some respect....
Joe
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...talking about a "setup being too unproven"...to a gentlemen who likely has more lsr time under
his belt than anyone out there....think about it.......
everyone cant be a "FOLLOWER"....
SSB im sure you mean WELL to all, myself and im sure others are abit sensative..about these things...
lets show some respect....
Joe
How is commenting that something looked dangerous being disrespectful? I talked to John 5 minutes before his run and and gave him nothing but the utmost respect, and was horrified by the outcome.
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SSB, how did you do?
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SSB, how did you do?
Pretty disappointed; rolled the 'Busa off the truck and got a 213 first pass, but apparently bent a throttle body blade so the day was over. It was a really soft run and just a shakedown to make sure nothing was going to fall off or break (we have a lot of untested parts on the bike so it was a little spooky).
Wife got 95, 97, 95 on her Ninja 250, and the ZX-10 got hung up on the factory speed limiter all three runs, despite swapping out ECUs.
We'll be back in OCT to break some records with the Ninja 250 and lay down some strong runs on the Busa.
Met some great folks from the .org there!
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...talking about a "setup being too unproven"...to a gentlemen who likely has more lsr time under
his belt than anyone out there....think about it.......
everyone cant be a "FOLLOWER"....
SSB im sure you mean WELL to all, myself and im sure others are abit sensative..about these things...
lets show some respect....
Joe
Joe,
since he was there, he may be commenting on what he saw/heard first hand...john's gloves hitting the fairing so it was hard to maneuver.... the windshield been wrong and he could not see(all from the 1st pass).
John is no rookie, but maybe something worst.... someone that went fast once in the past and now trying to play catchup with out walking through the necessary steps and knowledge.
Bill
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Bill - Very unclassy post, I mean is it really necessary to name call with the emoticons?
I have lost respect for you as a person with a crappy post like that. I thought you had more tact than you just displayed.
I particulary love how you say I insult ALL and not just you. I find it quite weak that you attempt to rally the troops to try and drive home a point.
An FYI, I think you have been LSR racing about the same time as I have and you have obviously done much much better than I have. Let's keep something in mind, something I learned very early on when I started racing, records are meant to be broken. Someday you or one of the other heavy hitters will break your 278 mph speed. Are you gonne be ok with that if it's not you? Because you seem awfully threatned.
Tom we are not what caused the accident, yet. We did not get a time slip as he went down right before the traps. It was a very very fast pass, when Scott Horner and I pulled the GPS from the bike I took a picture and this is what we saw.
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/IMAG0279.jpg)
This picture is ridiculous, you insult ALL of us by posting it to let us assume his speed and you are a fool if for an instant you think he was any where near that speed. :ssht:
I am very glad John is OK.
Bill
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Anyone know how fast he was going when he went down? Yesterday I read around 1/2 track, now more torwards the end. There's only a handful of guys that have been over 250 and we don't need to lose ANYONE. We may not all always get along but I have respect for all that have achieved anything over 250, we're special and not in a tard kind of way.
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Bill - Very unclassy post, I mean is it really necessary to name call with the emoticons?
I have lost respect for you as a person with a crappy post like that. I thought you had more tact than you just displayed.
I particulary love how you say I insult ALL and not just you. I find it quite weak that you attempt to rally the troops to try and drive home a point.
An FYI, I think you have been LSR racing about the same time as I have and you have obviously done much much better than I have. Let's keep something in mind, something I learned very early on when I started racing, records are meant to be broken. Someday you or one of the other heavy hitters will break your 278 mph speed. Are you gonne be ok with that if it's not you? Because you seem awfully threatned.
Scott,
I stand by the insult you made of posting such a stupid speed for people to think he was going. I see now you have no concept of that number or any number close to it. Where is John on all this, I bet he will admit that this his not the speed he was going when he went down (but I know him well enough that he is laughing that people are thinking its true)
This has nothing to do with my speed, I didn't even think of that, just the fact its out right wrong, foolish and insulting to people that know better.
I hold no grudges, feel free to apologize to me when we meet in person.
Bill
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Bill - There will be no apologies from me.........none! If anything maybe you should reread your post where you decided it was tactful to call someone a name. Outright just childish on your part, nothing more nothing less, I thought you were bigger than that. If anyone owes anyone an apology it is you that owes me an apology for the unwarranted name calling BS.
And after you are done rereading your post reread mine, I never said John went 314 mph. I never said he went any speed, I merely stated this is what the GPS showed when we removed it from the bike. You read into it how ever you like Bill, I don't really care what you think, but I do know that in some way you are bothered by the fact that their are several people out there who can and will give you a run for your money. It shows in some of your posts here and on other sites.
Scott,
I stand by the insult you made of posting such a stupid speed for people to think he was going. I see now you have no concept of that number or any number close to it. Where is John on all this, I bet he will admit that this his not the speed he was going when he went down (but I know him well enough that he is laughing that people are thinking its true)
This has nothing to do with my speed, I didn't even think of that, just the fact its out right wrong, foolish and insulting to people that know better.
I hold no grudges, feel free to apologize to me when we meet in person.
Bill
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And here we go with the back tracking I was waiting for (and pushed for) Thank you! This would be your apology, thank you for that also.
Reply #77 were I state you posted the pic to let others assume the speed.
I am looking forward to competition... not this made up shit. I look forward to it so much, I'll see you in Oct @ Mojave.
Bill
Bill - There will be no apologies from me.........none! If anything maybe you should reread your post where you decided it was tactful to call someone a name. Outright just childish on your part, nothing more nothing less, I thought you were bigger than that. If anyone owes anyone an apology it is you that owes me an apology for the unwarranted name calling BS.
And after you are done rereading your post reread mine, I never said John went 314 mph. I never said he went any speed, I merely stated this is what the GPS showed when we removed it from the bike. You read into it how ever you like Bill, I don't really care what you think, but I do know that in some way you are bothered by the fact that their are several people out there who can and will give you a run for your money. It shows in some of your posts here and on other sites.
Scott,
I stand by the insult you made of posting such a stupid speed for people to think he was going. I see now you have no concept of that number or any number close to it. Where is John on all this, I bet he will admit that this his not the speed he was going when he went down (but I know him well enough that he is laughing that people are thinking its true)
This has nothing to do with my speed, I didn't even think of that, just the fact its out right wrong, foolish and insulting to people that know better.
I hold no grudges, feel free to apologize to me when we meet in person.
Bill
Scott,
I stand by the insult you made of posting such a stupid speed for people to think he was going. I see now you have no concept of that number or any number close to it. Where is John on all this, I bet he will admit that this his not the speed he was going when he went down (but I know him well enough that he is laughing that people are thinking its true)
This has nothing to do with my speed, I didn't even think of that, just the fact its out right wrong, foolish and insulting to people that know better.
I hold no grudges, feel free to apologize to me when we meet in person.
Bill
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SSB, how did you do?
Met some great folks from the .org there!
It was great to meet you guys.
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Bill, this is a touchy subject matter for so many reasons as you likely well know...:)...
when i see SSB on one hand ask for simple advice on gearing...then on the other hand indicate a level of expertise about "unproven designs" relating to lsr...then i feel
compelled step up and say something...
especially when so many are involved with lsr rules..and isolated incidence of whatever type, and folks running around like their experts influencing others with hysteria often
based on very little knowledge...ie the tire situation....
ie..if someone came on here and asked about what chain to run, then saw lets say a new engine/turbo configuration on you bike...and you had an engine problem...then the folks
asking about chain advice come on and say yeah our group new that engine package was going to end badly..and " that setup looked a bit too unproven for the application"...then i would likely
step up and say something...
especially knowing so many variables at play...ie the Ack liner went down many years ago...and folks would argue like they have implicit knowledge that the design this and that...then the same basic design sets the world
land speed record years later...
additionally Bill, I apreciate your earlier post regarding being cautious about the speed insinuated etc.....
Joe :)
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So as you stated you play games on the internet? You pushed for something and feel you got it? Even more immature, I used to look up to and respect you and what you have done, but you have really shined through today Bill.
As far as competion is concerned you shouldn't have any problem walking all over my stock 05' Hayabusa, she only has slip-ons and a reflash of the ecu, I went 168 in fifth gear yesterday so if I try hard I might hit 180 mph, but I will need you to spot me 100 mph.
And here we go with the back tracking I was waiting for (and pushed for) Thank you! This would be your apology, thank you for that also.
Reply #77 were I state you posted the pic to let others assume the speed.
I am looking forward to competition... not this made up shit. I look forward to it so much, I'll see you in Oct @ Mojave.
Bill
Bill - There will be no apologies from me.........none! If anything maybe you should reread your post where you decided it was tactful to call someone a name. Outright just childish on your part, nothing more nothing less, I thought you were bigger than that. If anyone owes anyone an apology it is you that owes me an apology for the unwarranted name calling BS.
And after you are done rereading your post reread mine, I never said John went 314 mph. I never said he went any speed, I merely stated this is what the GPS showed when we removed it from the bike. You read into it how ever you like Bill, I don't really care what you think, but I do know that in some way you are bothered by the fact that their are several people out there who can and will give you a run for your money. It shows in some of your posts here and on other sites.
Scott,
I stand by the insult you made of posting such a stupid speed for people to think he was going. I see now you have no concept of that number or any number close to it. Where is John on all this, I bet he will admit that this his not the speed he was going when he went down (but I know him well enough that he is laughing that people are thinking its true)
This has nothing to do with my speed, I didn't even think of that, just the fact its out right wrong, foolish and insulting to people that know better.
I hold no grudges, feel free to apologize to me when we meet in person.
Bill
Scott,
I stand by the insult you made of posting such a stupid speed for people to think he was going. I see now you have no concept of that number or any number close to it. Where is John on all this, I bet he will admit that this his not the speed he was going when he went down (but I know him well enough that he is laughing that people are thinking its true)
This has nothing to do with my speed, I didn't even think of that, just the fact its out right wrong, foolish and insulting to people that know better.
I hold no grudges, feel free to apologize to me when we meet in person.
Bill
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Bill, this is a touchy subject matter for so many reasons as you likely well know...:)...
when i see SSB on one hand ask for simple advice on gearing...then on the other hand indicate a level of expertise about "unproven designs" relating to lsr...then i feel
compelled step up and say something...
especially when so many are involved with lsr rules..and isolated incidence of whatever type, and folks running around like their experts influencing others with hysteria often
based on very little knowledge...ie the tire situation....
ie..if someone came on here and asked about what chain to run, then saw lets say a new engine/turbo configuration on you bike...and you had an engine problem...then the folks
asking about chain advice come on and say yeah our group new that engine package was going to end badly..and " that setup looked a bit too unproven for the application"...then i would likely
step up and say something...
especially knowing so many variables at play...ie the Ack liner went down many years ago...and folks would argue like they have implicit knowledge that the design this and that...then the same basic design sets the world
land speed record years later...
additionally Bill, I apreciate your earlier post regarding being cautious about the speed insinuated etc.....
Joe :)
We went out to have fun at Mojave, not "race," OK?
And yeah, that Airtech setup John was running looked hillbilly as hell. That's not "indicating a level of expertise" about anything, that's called an observation.
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I am VERY VERY happy John is ok! We will be praying for him and Michelle. I almost had a heart attack when I heard.
Kaz is right, he has one FAST guardian angel.
I am sure none of these misunderstood internet comments would lead to any disagreements if we were all hanging out at a Mexican restaurant eating dinner and talking.
There is no way to tell someone's intent and inflection from our posts. I know I have made many a post I regreted because it came across much differently than I intended and was misconstrued. I lost track of my apologies a long time ago. No one's perfect.
I am sure we would all get along.
We all have the same things in common on here.
We are all really glad John is ok and we all love our sport.
Walt
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Aside from all this friendly banter ,
who else ran and how did you go
I read a Kawi went over 200 ? anyone else,
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SSB per you post :..."We went out to have fun at Mojave, not "race," OK?
And yeah, that Airtech setup John was running looked hillbilly as hell. That's not "indicating a level of expertise" about anything, that's called an observation."
im sure your stuff is very shiny and professional....:)...let me assure you that many "hillbilly" appearing things have set some unsurpassed world land speed records...
Joe :)...
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We all are smart enough to relize John didn't and couldn't go that fast in a mile.. Im just glad he is ok!! So was this bike suppose to go to Bonneville this year... or is that a concrete/asphalt bike?
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SSB per you post :..."We went out to have fun at Mojave, not "race," OK?
And yeah, that Airtech setup John was running looked hillbilly as hell. That's not "indicating a level of expertise" about anything, that's called an observation."
im sure your stuff is very shiny and professional....:)...let me assure you that many "hillbilly" appearing things have set some unsurpassed world land speed records...
Joe :)...
So true!!!
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Glad he is OK :)
Looking forward to October!
Dean
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SSB per you post :..."We went out to have fun at Mojave, not "race," OK?
And yeah, that Airtech setup John was running looked hillbilly as hell. That's not "indicating a level of expertise" about anything, that's called an observation."
im sure your stuff is very shiny and professional....:)...let me assure you that many "hillbilly" appearing things have set some unsurpassed world land speed records...
Joe :)...
We poked fun at Bill's bike in the mag too a while, don't take it so personal.
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ssb.re taking it "personally"....NO WORRIES....:)...!!!
its true that things over the net can get construed in a much different manner than intended (and
also spot on..:))....
Joe :)
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ssb.re taking it "personally"....NO WORRIES....:)...!!!
its true that things over the net can get construed in a much different manner than intended (and
also spot on..:))....
Joe :)
:beechug:
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ssb.re taking it "personally"....NO WORRIES....:)...!!!
its true that things over the net can get construed in a much different manner than intended (and
also spot on..:))....
Joe :)
:beechug:
SO Now that we are all back to the Dysfunctional.but Loving Family again :wink:!
How fast did the New zx10r go stock? :bike:
Or the new BMW1000RR ? :bike:
I NEED A stock 1000cc CARROT for my K6 To eat :thnks:............
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I went out for pizza four blocks from my house back in '04 (my busa was still bone stock) and this is what I had on that run.
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I went out for pizza four blocks from my house back in '04 (my busa was still bone stock) and this is what I had on that run.
PANTS ON FIRE :crzy: !!!!
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Fact is, I know that I didn't go over 40 MPH but the GPS read 318. Now and then my GPS will throw a false number. I've heard of others doing the same.
Glad John is OK.
Looking forward to the seeing some details for others to learn from.
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I went out for pizza four blocks from my house back in '04 (my busa was still bone stock) and this is what I had on that run.
edzachery :thumb:
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The bike is not legal for SCTA. Dont know about AMA/FIM.
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I am VERY VERY happy John is ok! We will be praying for him and Michelle. I almost had a heart attack when I heard.
Kaz is right, he has one FAST guardian angel.
I am sure none of these misunderstood internet comments would lead to any disagreements if we were all hanging out at a Mexican restaurant eating dinner and talking.
There is no way to tell someone's intent and inflection from our posts. I know I have made many a post I regreted because it came across much differently than I intended and was misconstrued. I lost track of my apologies a long time ago. No one's perfect.
I am sure we would all get along.
We all have the same things in common on here.
We are all really glad John is ok and we all love our sport.
Walt
I'm with you Walt. 8)
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Glad to hear Noonan is ok, or at least as ok as he is.
I like the body work, it looks mighty slick!...............but with that said, I did live in a trailer park for a few years when I was a young kido.
Any comments from the LSR fellas about the body work, it would be interesting to hear from you all. First, I don't know anything about that fairing, or setup, or how much ground clearance it has..............but I am sure it has to be rough to handle in crosswinds. I am sure there are only a very, very small hand full of people with the experience to pilot that Busa.
On another note,
I think an E85 N/A ZX14 ran just over 200.
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RustMan! Have not seen ya around for a while.............glad to see your lurking about.
I heard they might be making changes at the Texas Mile, just for you! So, ya better make an appearance!
Gary
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Glad to hear Noonan is ok, or at least as ok as he is.
LOL!
And thanks Russ.
Walt
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The bike is not legal for SCTA. Dont know about AMA/FIM.
Who really cares...Right???
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The bike is not legal for SCTA. Dont know about AMA/FIM.
Who really cares...Right???
It was legal for Mojave, thats all that mattered.
Bill
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Yup!!
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Yeah i don't mean to sound like smart ass, I'm just saying who really cares about legal for what class who ever runs, if i see you go 250 and its a timed sanctioned event,whether you backed it up via 2 way or 1 way..You went 250 in my book.. Good luck on that cool looking ride John!!
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I'm glad John is alive and OK, as OK as he could possibly be after a spill like that.
People like John, Bill, ScottG, JoeA,Knecum, Forestall, etc.. and many others are true pioneers in this sport we all love so much. We all put our lives on the line every time we ride or race these fast bikes and we can't afford any additional losses in our tight group of land speed racers.
If it wasn't for the true hard core racers and pioneers of racing, speeds wouldn't be as high as they are and current records wouldn't be there.
Bill didn't just wake up and decide what it was going to take to go 280mph.. He has years of experience racing at speed and years of knowledge accumulated from bits and pieces of other racers across the board. He was just smart enough to take advantage of what he has learned over the years and put a system together that actually worked and worked well.
We all learn from each other. Some pay the price, some reap the rewards of the price others have paid.
I personally believe there is too much hostility between land speed racers now days. This isn't drag racing where everyone at the track dogs each other and thrives on others misfortune. This is Land Speed Racing. LSR racers have always been some of the finest gentlemen and true racers in my book, until the past few years, when speeds went up and people became more competitive with one another.
I think there is enough ugliness in the world and in motorsports and we don’t need that type hostility in the air with land speed racers.
I remember seeing people at Bonneville and Maxton take parts off their bike to loan to their competitors – so long as it would help them to get down the track and make a pass. True gentlemen in racing….
I wish a crash and injuries on nobody. It’s not easy to recoup from a high speed crash – both physically and financially.
John… If you read this, please heal fast my friend. Thank you for having the courage to pioneer new and exciting different things. I hope you get everything sorted and back out there as soon as possible.
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Well said. :thumb: I quit drag racing 40yrs ago because I didnt like the way poeple acted.
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Digit!!!! let alone ugliness in our fucked up world!!!
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I'll also add...
SSB magazine ... ( Aaron I assume?? )
No class man. None at all.
I have officially lost all respect for you and super streetbike magazine and i'll never buy nor read another copy.
You don't belong in land speed racing with your "hillbilly coments".
Keep on collecting free donated parts for your pathetic magazine bike so you don't look hillbilly as hell.. :ssht:
We can't all be as beautiful as you are.
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I'll also add...
SSB magazine ... ( Aaron I assume?? )
No class man. None at all.
I have officially lost all respect for you and super streetbike magazine and i'll never buy nor read another copy.
You don't belong in land speed racing with your "hillbilly coments".
Keep on collecting free donated parts for your pathetic magazine bike so you don't look hillbilly as hell.. :ssht:
We can't all be as beautiful as you are.
Aaron hasn't worked at SSB for 6 years.
Free parts? Please. At least they are parts that belong on a bike either way. And it has nothing to do with how something looks, hell my bike was flat black with a mismatched tank that day. But if I showed up at the next event with a fin on my helmet and wings on my bike and somebody said it looked "hillbilly, ghetto, rigged, goofy, etc," I'd simply have to agree.
I have huge respect for John, but I certainly wouldn't hesitate to tell him his setup that day looked dangerous.
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I'll also add...
SSB magazine ... ( Aaron I assume?? )
No class man. None at all.
I have officially lost all respect for you and super streetbike magazine and i'll never buy nor read another copy.
You don't belong in land speed racing with your "hillbilly coments".
Keep on collecting free donated parts for your pathetic magazine bike so you don't look hillbilly as hell.. :ssht:
We can't all be as beautiful as you are.
Aaron hasn't worked at SSB for 6 years.
Free parts? Please. At least they are parts that belong on a bike either way. And it has nothing to do with how something looks, hell my bike was flat black with a mismatched tank that day. But if I showed up at the next event with a fin on my helmet and wings on my bike and somebody said it looked "hillbilly, ghetto, rigged, goofy, etc," I'd simply have to agree.
I have huge respect for John, but I certainly wouldn't hesitate to tell him his setup that day looked dangerous.
Sorry.. hit Modify instead of "quote"
I didn't edit your coments though..
My reply was:
Why didn't you tell him then?? You had a chance to tell him when he was there talking to you in person, before he made his pass. You could have saved the man some bumps and bruises with your superior knowledge.
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I'll also add...
SSB magazine ... ( Aaron I assume?? )
No class man. None at all.
I have officially lost all respect for you and super streetbike magazine and i'll never buy nor read another copy.
You don't belong in land speed racing with your "hillbilly coments".
Keep on collecting free donated parts for your pathetic magazine bike so you don't look hillbilly as hell.. :ssht:
We can't all be as beautiful as you are.
Aaron hasn't worked at SSB for 6 years.
Free parts? Please. At least they are parts that belong on a bike either way. And it has nothing to do with how something looks, hell my bike was flat black with a mismatched tank that day. But if I showed up at the next event with a fin on my helmet and wings on my bike and somebody said it looked "hillbilly, ghetto, rigged, goofy, etc," I'd simply have to agree.
I have huge respect for John, but I certainly wouldn't hesitate to tell him his setup that day looked dangerous.
Sorry.. hit Modify instead of "quote"
I didn't edit your coments though..
My reply was:
Why didn't you tell him then?? You had a chance to tell him when he was there talking to you in person, before he made his pass. You could have saved the man some bumps and bruises with your superior knowledge.
We actually were talking about his bikes, but his line got called and he literally had to run to his bike. I never said I had superior knowledge, it's an observation. Secondly, it's not my business to be telling people what they should or shouldn't do. I had enough to worry about with my own setup.
Come off it man, WTF.
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Had Mr. Noonan run 365 mph, safely, you would be here talking about how nice and badass and different his bike was.. You would then be asking him for an interview..
You're typical of one who plays both sides of the fence..
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I've said all I have to say..
I wish all the racers nothing but the best of luck and safety. ( including you SSB)
John, heal fast.
Glad you're still with us.
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Had Mr. Noonan run 365 mph, safely, you would be here talking about how nice and badass and different his bike was.. You would then be asking him for an interview..
You're typical of one who plays both sides of the fence..
You have no idea what I may or may not do. The only thing that's blatantly clear about either of our personalities or motivations comes from your comments—you're a hardcore nut swinger. I'll leave you to do your thing...
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I wonder if the SCTA will sanction a cage match for Mojave? See where I'm headed here? :id: :wink:
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yup, LSR folks are salt of the Earth, people don't get any better. It why i quit drag racing took up LSR, chumming with folks like LSR Larry, Knecum, Osti, and John.
All the LSR folks wanna hear is what really happened to John; we wanna learn.
But, you know, we haven't heard from John yet...
He should be weighing in, saying what happened, as a premier LRS guy, part of the LSR Tribe, he knows he OWES it to his LSR bretheren, to help them in future endeavors.
Will we hear from John?
He's everybody's pal, GREAT beer drinking buddy, but he does seem to like the drama, stir the pot.
Will we hear from John?
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yup, LSR folks are salt of the Earth, people don't get any better. It why i quit drag racing took up LSR, chumming with folks like LSR Larry, Knecum, Osti, and John.
All the LSR folks wanna hear is what really happened to John; we wanna learn.
But, you know, we haven't heard from John yet...
He should be weighing in, saying what happened, as a premier LRS guy, part of the LSR Tribe, he knows he OWES it to his LSR bretheren, to help them in future endeavors.
Will we hear from John?
He's everybody's pal, GREAT beer drinking buddy, but he does seem to like the drama, stir the pot.
Will we hear from John?
When he knows for sure what cause the Accident He will Lets us all know :wink: "J/N 4/12/11"
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There is now a separate thread "John Noonan Down!"
http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/forum/index.php?topic=153527
We could all concentrate on what's most important here. A fellow racer is hurting right now. One of us went down. Of course his well being is our number one concern. Instead of posting pics and disputing speeds maybe we could all come together and see if there is anything we can do? Does he need help with medical, parts, anything family or pets need?
There wouldn't be any name calling or arguing amongst ourselves if we could come together as a community and offer our support, well wishes and appreciation for past accomplishments with some respect.
Thank you. The Members here are what make this site what it is.
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AMEN Admin!
When I got the bug to go fast, I bought a Busa because of guys like John! When FAST LINE CYCLES IN FREEMONT CA blew up my bike on the dyno, John offered to help. I never even met the man. Guys like that are the Cornerstone of the game. I am still jumping up and down that I even got to go ride with the bunch of you at Mojave. And I can't wait to get back there, even if my fastest run was 177.1. Hey my speedo said 185! LOL! :hys:
Steve
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There is now a separate thread "John Noonan Down!"
http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/forum/index.php?topic=153527
We could all concentrate on what's most important here. A fellow racer is hurting right now. One of us went down. Of course his well being is our number one concern. Instead of posting pics and disputing speeds maybe we could all come together and see if there is anything we can do? Does he need help with medical, parts, anything family or pets need?
There wouldn't be any name calling or arguing amongst ourselves if we could come together as a community and offer our support, well wishes and appreciation for past accomplishments with some respect.
Thank you. The Members here are what make this site what it is.
I'm sure any of the regular members here would be more than willing to help out if needed. The fact that he walked to the ambulance, refused to be taken to the hospital, and posted soon after makes it easier to move on from the shock and speculate about the cause. It doesn't mean we don't respect him, I just think that this site is also about sharing information, and learning from each other. It's natural and normal and beneficial that some will be curious about the cause of the accident, and want to discuss.
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I don't want to discourage discussion. The thread was starting to degenerate a bit with a few members name calling and headed toward petty schoolyard bullying. I'm sure we can keep it on track respectfully. Thanks for posting :thumb:
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For those of you who are not in contact with John I wanted to give an update on his status. I just returned from John's place and he is doing good. He is mobile and moving about, I think he even went to/or did a few hours work today. His spirits are typical John Noonan, he doesn't miss a beat, the man is resilient.
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For those of you who are not in contact with John I wanted to give an update on his status. I just returned from John's place and he is doing good. He is mobile and moving about, I think he even went to/or did a few hours work today. His spirits are typical John Noonan, he doesn't miss a beat, the man is resilient.
Scott,
thanks a million for the update, very glad to hear John is doing good.
BTW, no offense, but you, not being from Texas, should say "doing well".
Me, being from Texas, must say "doing good".
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BTW, no offense, but you, not being from Texas, should say "doing well".
Me, being from Texas, must say "doing good".
No offense taken but I have plenty of family from Texas so can I get a break? If not what other Texas to California things should I be aware of?
Really missed seeing you at the Mile Karl.
Scott
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BTW, no offense, but you, not being from Texas, should say "doing well".
Me, being from Texas, must say "doing good".
No offense taken but I have plenty of family from Texas so can I get a break? If not what other Texas to California things should I be aware of?
Really missed seeing you at the Mile Karl.
Scott
other Texas laws...
you cannot say INsurance, that's for us.
You have to say inSURance.
Yup, i was really pumped to get back to Mojave, missed seeing you guys, hanging out with the Noonan mobile mexican beer fest.
in Oct for sure.
Karl
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BTW, no offense, but you, not being from Texas, should say "doing well".
Me, being from Texas, must say "doing good".
No offense taken but I have plenty of family from Texas so can I get a break? If not what other Texas to California things should I be aware of?
Really missed seeing you at the Mile Karl.
Scott
other Texas laws...
you cannot say INsurance, that's for us.
You have to say inSURance.
Yup, i was really pumped to get back to Mojave, missed seeing you guys, hanging out with the Noonan mobile mexican beer fest.
in Oct for sure.
Karl
Check karl!
Looking forward to it, see you in October.
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BTW, no offense, but you, not being from Texas, should say "doing well".
Me, being from Texas, must say "doing good".
No offense taken but I have plenty of family from Texas so can I get a break? If not what other Texas to California things should I be aware of?
Really missed seeing you at the Mile Karl.
Scott
other Texas laws...
you cannot say INsurance, that's for us.
You have to say inSURance.
Yup, i was really pumped to get back to Mojave, missed seeing you guys, hanging out with the Noonan mobile mexican beer fest.
in Oct for sure.
Karl
Check karl!
Looking forward to it, see you in October.
how about Loring in July??
California Bill (LA) is trailering his bike to Austin, where he'll put it in a BIG trailer with othere bikes, drive to Maine.
Why not go along with Bill, head to Maine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,
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Karl, who all's bikes are going to be going? I talked to JC the other day and it sounds like a big group.
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Karl, who all's bikes are going to be going? I talked to JC the other day and it sounds like a big group.
for sure i only know about Charlie (has the vehicle) and Bill; Brenda & JC & Gary have extressed interest, but Bill said yesterday that they haven't committed.
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(http://www.aperaceparts.com/forumphotos/DSCN0541.jpg)
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nice looking bike.
who is the distinguished gentleman next to Jay?
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Jay, we have a Ninja 250 that won't break 100!
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Hey Jay! Thanks for posting that pic! You made my day!
Steve
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entropy
Sorry you didn't make it! Thats old fart is me standing with Jay. Me and my (ex. ZX12 rider) pit crew were looking forward to meeting you!
Steve
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entropy
Sorry you didn't make it! Thats old fart is me standing with Jay. Me and my (ex. ZX12 rider) pit crew were looking forward to meeting you!
Steve
hey Steve, me too sorry i didn't make it.
Really clean looking bike, nice prep.
why don't you sign up for the Texas Mile, last weekend in May, 3 days.
Only a leisurely 12 hr drive from LA
(TFA doesn't count night time driving)
Karl
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Jay, we have a Ninja 250 that won't break 100!
The one we were involved with did. :tu:
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SSM,too bad after all the coaching and taping her up the wind came up and the air went away,slowed her down,darn!
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SSM,too bad after all the coaching and taping her up the wind came up and the air went away,slowed her down,darn!
The only wind of the day happened during her run. Bugger.
We're either gonna spray the 250 or just skip that and put her on a 600 for October. 175 with bolt-on mods maybe? Could be interesting with such a small rider...
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Hey SSB, I have some spots left open for next month at the Texas Mile. Why don't you come and race at our new location?
Ryan
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Hey SSB, I have some spots left open for next month at the Texas Mile. Why don't you come and race at our new location?
Ryan
Date and location?
...Driving to TX can be a 12 or 24 hour event!
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May 27-29 in Beeville Texas
www.texasmile.net
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Ryan, are you guys going to go down this weekend??
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Yes
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The only wind of the day happened during her run. Bugger.
We're either gonna spray the 250 or just skip that and put her on a 600 for October. 175 with bolt-on mods maybe? Could be interesting with such a small rider...
I'd say closer to 160 and with Mojave's elevation maybe even less...
Yes
Looking forward to all the pics and info of the new location Ryan! :thumb:
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SSM,too bad after all the coaching and taping her up the wind came up and the air went away,slowed her down,darn!
We're either gonna spray the 250 or just skip that and put her on a 600 for October. 175 with bolt-on mods maybe? Could be interesting with such a small rider...
IBlaine the (head inspector) road a all stock GSXR 1000 (the one for sale) and he went 177 I believe.
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SSM,too bad after all the coaching and taping her up the wind came up and the air went away,slowed her down,darn!
We're either gonna spray the 250 or just skip that and put her on a 600 for October. 175 with bolt-on mods maybe? Could be interesting with such a small rider...
IBlaine the (head inspector) road a all stock GSXR 1000 (the one for sale) and he went 177 I believe.
He's a big guy though. We have a 5 foot, 100 pound mouse to pilot! It'll be interesting...
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SSM,too bad after all the coaching and taping her up the wind came up and the air went away,slowed her down,darn!
We're either gonna spray the 250 or just skip that and put her on a 600 for October. 175 with bolt-on mods maybe? Could be interesting with such a small rider...
IBlaine the (head inspector) road a all stock GSXR 1000 (the one for sale) and he went 177 I believe.
He's a big guy though. We have a 5 foot, 100 pound mouse to pilot! It'll be interesting...
I saw your wife and how petite she was, I was just trying to give a reference point as to what the 1000 did. Good luck to the both of you at Mojave in Octover.
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IBlaine the (head inspector) road a all stock GSXR 1000 (the one for sale) and he went 177 I believe.
He's a big guy though. We have a 5 foot, 100 pound mouse to pilot! It'll be interesting...
Sean's GF I believe is a similar size and started in the 140's on an R6. They tried a few things for 160 but I think 159mph was as fast as she could get but maybe he'll post up. This was also at Miami with better elevation than Mojave...
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Sean's GF I believe is a similar size and started in the 140's on an R6. They tried a few things for 160 but I think 159mph was as fast as she could get but maybe he'll post up. This was also at Miami with better elevation than Mojave...
Yup, she did 159.403. It was her first race and she made about 6 or 7 runs. She is 5'4" and weighs about 130 in leathers. I'm confident that a good launch could bring about 160s. Her bike made 101.9 hp to the tire at the time.
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it's a challenge for sure. for both rider and bike!
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(http://www.aperaceparts.com/forumphotos/DSCN0541.jpg)
...i know those guys. :lol: :tu:
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...oh yeah,i have a shitload of pictures from the event but won't have access to my camera 'til Monday evening,will try to get them posted up then. :thumb:
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Cool Dave! Post em up! It was good to meet ya!
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Cool Dave! Post em up! It was good to meet ya!
...ok Steve with the Alzheimers,it's JEFF. :hys:(good to meet you too bro :tu:).
I loaned my camera out during the week and will get it back Monday,hopefully the knucklehead hasn't accidentally deleted the photos! :tu:
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Sorry Jeff
And just so you know it not Alzheimers, it CRS! Cant Remember Shit! Sorry Bro!
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Sorry Jeff
And just so you know it not Alzheimers, it CRS! Cant Remember Shit! Sorry Bro!
No problem bro. :hys: :thumb:
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how does a sea lion pronounce Jeff?
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how does a sea lion pronounce Jeff?
Hell if i know,always has been a slight communication problem. :lol:
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Tom we are not what caused the accident, yet. We did not get a time slip as he went down right before the traps. It was a very very fast pass, when Scott Horner and I pulled the GPS from the bike I took a picture and this is what we saw.
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/IMAG0279.jpg)
This picture is ridiculous, you insult ALL of us by posting it to let us assume his speed and you are a fool if for an instant you think he was any where near that speed. :ssht:
I am very glad John is OK.
Bill
Those are my legs in the background. :lol:
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What happen to the explanation you wrote piratediverjefff??????????? and how you said it was a joke to post the pic?????????
You were right on with why the gps read such a false number.
I knew the whole story before the pic was posted and that it was recommended not to post such antics.
Bill
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What happen to the explanation you wrote piratediverjefff??????????? and how you said it was a joke to post the pic?????????
You were right on with why the gps read such a false number.
I knew the whole story before the pic was posted and that it was recommended not to post such antics.
Bill
I decided not to stir the pot any further,let it go.
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I knew the whole story before the pic was posted and that it was recommended not to post such antics.
Really Bill?
I can tell you that I posted the picture and it was not posted as a joke. So since I posted the picture and you are saying it was recommended not to post such antics then supposedly someone I know must of told me not to post it........which I can tell you never happened and is total bullshit.
It was posted as hey look what we pulled off of John's bike after the crash, nothing more nothing less. As Jody (NCR) told me relax man.........you should do the same.
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Well Scott it is a joke (that number, that is). I knew what exactly the guy that was at the event said to explain the number and he has seen it in roadracing several times even showing a speed up 400.
Now that explanation is taken off the post... who got to you Jeff??? Feel free to post it again.
This is not stirring the pot, but more like a use of a centrifuge to get the crap to precipitate out.
Bill
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Bill I asked Jeff to edit the part about the joke as it was not a joke when I posted it nor was it intended to be a joke. The negativety in this thread had finally died down so I asked him to please not stir things up. Jeff chose to remove the entire post. Again, merely this is what the GPS said when we pulled it from the bike. I would get where you were coming from if I came on here and said hey Noonan went 314 mph and here is the GPS to prove it, but that was never the case. You have twisted this and implied that was my intenion when it was not.
Well Scott it is a joke (that number, that is). I knew what exactly the guy that was at the event said to explain the number and he has seen it in roadracing several times even showing a speed up 400.
Now that explanation is taken off the post... who got to you Jeff??? Feel free to post it again.
This is not stirring the pot, but more like a use of a centrifuge to get the crap to precipitate out.
Bill
:bike:
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bill, best to be fastest guy with the smallest mouth, then to be another fast guy with a BIG mouth :duh:
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bill, best to be fastest guy with the smallest mouth, then to be another fast guy with a BIG mouth :duh:
Oh good, more intelligent contributions.
I'm looking forward to reading John's posts on this issue, and seeing how things play out ON THE TRACK.
Hope to see you all there.
Dean
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I was not going to say anthing but when I saw the picture I knew that there would be trouble. I and others have an idea of what it would take to go that fast in a longer distance, in my opinion it will never happen in a mile, again my opinion. I have seen that pic on several sites and there are people that don't know any better
that believe everthing that they see. I have had people ask me if it was true and I told them no way. I've seen gps show wrong numbers several times, I even went 208 in the 1/4 mile, but knew it was bogus since I had been running high 180's all night and the pro street guys were running low 200's. There is lots of money, time and pride at stake at going the top speeds. Bill speaks his mind (when others of us are thinking it), he's is highly competitive and very passionate about what he's doing. Like him or not you have to admire his ambition and testicular fortitude. Hopefully we can find out what caused the accident so that NO ONE else gets hurt or dies. Thanks, Tom
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Well saidTom! Gps speeds dont mean sh--. Timing slips are the only thing that counts.
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fred, yes timing slips are what counts for most folks involved in lsr....
i keep getting emails about so and so going 300, people all over the world see this...
its like going to a theatre and seeing a firey action seen.....and posting publicly
that "you should have seen the big fire at the theatre".......
then sitting back....and "watching" the fallout...
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First off let me say I'm glad John was not seriously injured in his get off. I spoke with John on the phone and it sounds like he is bruised but not broken. He is a tough nut and I know he will be back soon enough!
Like Tom and many others, I knew that the gps reading would cause a stir.
In the dark ages of lsr, there would be gps postings from 9/10 events. The racers running SCTA and ECTA events dismissed the gps readings as they can easily be manipulated and are prone to erroneous readings.
Now many years later a gps reading causes a stir again!
The gps I use at bonneville has a time vs speed function which allows one to see the accurate speed or any discrepancies in acceleration or speed. If John's gps has this function it would be easy to show the actual speed when the bike crashed.
I don't believe that Scott or John would try to pass off the 314 gps reading as an accurate speed of the bike before, during or after the crash. Unfortunately there are many racers seeking sponsorship and working on lsr deals at present and the internet buzz that a guy went 314 mph in california detracts from what they are trying to achieve.
See you on the salt!
J.
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First off let me say I'm glad John was not seriously injured in his get off. I spoke with John on the phone and it sounds like he is bruised but not broken. He is a tough nut and I know he will be back soon enough!
So are you, Jason!
Between you, John and Russ, you guys have over 600 mph in combined get-offs.
The three of you guys are tough as nails!
Walt
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No doubt Walt! Jason was racing again very soon after his accident. He had on his Superman underoos.
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Don't forget Fred at Bonneville, that makes 800 mph of get-offs. Let's not make it 1000. LSL
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I am going to do my best not to raise the number, again. :bike:
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Me too Fred. That is one record i'm glad to loose!!!
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I am going to do my best not to raise the number, again. :bike:
that's one club membership I don't need hanging on my wall :tu:
I got off once on a road course years ago at about 150 in a sweeper (long curve) even at that speed I was luck to be here :D
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I call it the " Down over 200mph and walked away Club". The good thing is we lived to race another day. :moped:
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I call it the " Down over 200mph and walked away Club". The good thing is we lived to race another day. :moped:
:thumb:
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Well saidTom! Gps speeds dont mean sh--. Timing slips are the only thing that counts.
Just to put another wrench in the mix. I once ran a 1/4 mile drag race. et was 8.74 with a 301mph speed(according to the time slip) on a busa. I wish I had kept the time slip that night. That is why you have to back it up. :D
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John is no rookie, but maybe something worst.... someone that went fast once in the past and now trying to play catchup with out walking through the necessary steps and knowledge.
Bill
I find this to be the funniest post in this thread...and the truest showing of Bill's character. :td:
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"John is no rookie, but maybe something worst.... someone that went fast once in the past and now trying to play catchup with out walking through the necessary steps and knowledge."
Now that is just so wrong in so many ways I cannot believe you wrote that, let alone think it! I have watched John race for years now and have nothing but respect and admiration for his abilities.
Thought LSR was a haven from all the trash talking,it used to be.
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"John is no rookie, but maybe something worst.... someone that went fast once in the past and now trying to play catchup with out walking through the necessary steps and knowledge."
Now that is just so wrong in so many ways I cannot believe you wrote that, let alone think it! I have watched John race for years now and have nothing but respect and admiration for his abilities.
Thought LSR was a haven from all the trash talking,it used to be.
...anybody know this guy? :lol:
(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd353/piratediverjefff/2011MojaveMile061.jpg)
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from the outside of this lil controversy...
I consider John a friend, he has helped me out plenty.
I consider Bill a friend, he has helped me out plenty.
From the outside, it appears that Bill has a point.
I have been told by two major 30 year Bonneville "experts" that the aeros of John's package are very tricky, much wind tunnel work is needed to help assure stability, "center of pressure" and that kind of stuff.
Does SCTA allow that style bodywork?
However, on LSR John said it was not due to aeros, but he didn't really say what he thought it was.
A year ago, at the Texas Mile, I pitted with Bill, saw him experimenting with new plastic, no where near as radical as John's, but Bill had stability issues. Finally he ran naked, set the naked record
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Then he went back to the drawing board and apparently solved them, ran 278 at Texas in Oct, no apparent stability issues. He was in a wind tunnel earlier this year working on further improving the aeros. He logs everything including chassis data, never quits developing.
Bill's observations may prevent someone less experienced than John from hurting himself.
Personally, I applaud Bill's one voice against many :thumb:
And, i would sure like to hear John's thoughts on the aeros/stability of that package.
Karl
"John is no rookie, but maybe something worst.... someone that went fast once in the past and now trying to play catchup with out walking through the necessary steps and knowledge."
Now that is just so wrong in so many ways I cannot believe you wrote that, let alone think it! I have watched John race for years now and have nothing but respect and admiration for his abilities.
Thought LSR was a haven from all the trash talking,it used to be.
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Great post Karl :thumb:
IMO whenever there's and accident, there always should be an investigation of some sort handled by the track. They should then post or release for everyone to learn from to help anyone else avoid an accident in the future.
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IMO whenever there's and accident, there always should be an investigation of some sort handled by the track. They should then post or release for everyone to learn from to help anyone else avoid an accident in the future.
HUGE agreement.
Bill & Dean & Shane & Tom have all done over 260 and each are hunting for more, they are each friends to most of us.
Anything shared that could prevent them or someone else from getting hurt in their pursuit of crazy speeds is needed. No not just needed, but fukken obligatory!
We don't depend on fukken rules to keep us safe, we depend on our common sense, testing, and sharing.
That said, I'm just an NA guy who hasn't cracked 220, so don't listen to me. :bike:
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Well saidTom! Gps speeds dont mean sh--. Timing slips are the only thing that counts.
If that's the case i have a slip for 397mph from Bonneville back in 03, I just couldn't back it up..but its true!!
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Great post Karl. :tu:
I agree with Tom too about the accident investigation. That is a very good idea.
from the outside of this lil controversy...
I consider John a friend, he has helped me out plenty.
I consider Bill a friend, he has helped me out plenty.
From the outside, it appears that Bill has a point.
I have been told by two major 30 year Bonneville "experts" that the aeros of John's package are very tricky, much wind tunnel work is needed to help assure stability, "center of pressure" and that kind of stuff.
Does SCTA allow that style bodywork?
However, on LSR John said it was not due to aeros, but he didn't really say what he thought it was.
A year ago, at the Texas Mile, I pitted with Bill, saw him experimenting with new plastic, no where near as radical as John's, but Bill had stability issues. Finally he ran naked, set the naked record
.
Then he went back to the drawing board and apparently solved them, ran 278 at Texas in Oct, no apparent stability issues. He was in a wind tunnel earlier this year working on further improving the aeros. He logs everything including chassis data, never quits developing.
Bill's observations may prevent someone less experienced than John from hurting himself.
Personally, I applaud Bill's one voice against many :thumb:
And, i would sure like to hear John's thoughts on the aeros/stability of that package.
Karl
"John is no rookie, but maybe something worst.... someone that went fast once in the past and now trying to play catchup with out walking through the necessary steps and knowledge."
Now that is just so wrong in so many ways I cannot believe you wrote that, let alone think it! I have watched John race for years now and have nothing but respect and admiration for his abilities.
Thought LSR was a haven from all the trash talking,it used to be.
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"John is no rookie, but maybe something worst.... someone that went fast once in the past and now trying to play catchup with out walking through the necessary steps and knowledge."
Now that is just so wrong in so many ways I cannot believe you wrote that, let alone think it! I have watched John race for years now and have nothing but respect and admiration for his abilities.
Thought LSR was a haven from all the trash talking,it used to be.
...anybody know this guy? :lol:
(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd353/piratediverjefff/2011MojaveMile061.jpg)
You missed 2 screws with the red duct tape where the fairings can separate down a the v !!
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...there have been alot of windtunnel testing things...that didnt work
worth didley......so just a caution there....similarly alot of dynotested stuff
blow's up in racing....
Joe :)
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"You missed 2 screws with the red duct tape where the fairings can separate down a the v !!"
Dang it,Steve, knew there was a reason I was so slow!!
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Joe, how is your bike coming along. Sure hope you get those gremlins worked out. I wanna see you fly, again.
Fred
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Joe, how is your bike coming along. Sure hope you get those gremlins worked out. I wanna see you fly, again.
Fred
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...well Fred...ask some of your younger breathren how to decipher current day lingo...and its usage...id like to "be fly"...or have some cool
person say "his run was fly"...but im hoping not to fly...but do hope to find more speed...
Joe :)
ps im hoping not to see you "fly" again..
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I dont wanna fly again either. :(The other connotation I meant was I want to see you, and me too, go really fast. i love your bike.
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...there have been alot of windtunnel testing things...that didnt work
worth didley......so just a caution there....similarly alot of dynotested stuff
blow's up in racing....
Joe :)
Joe
it seems my shit isn't blowing up so much as it used to AND i'm going 15mph faster.
Could it be bc i'm not going to the dyno every weekend these days??
or
could it be that i switched from Kaw to Busa
:hys:
karl
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Fred..im right there with ya...cant wait to see YOU!!! and many others..!!!
Carl...well....were all hoping for "evolution" to more desired outcomes...you have found
a combination that is working well...CONGRATS..!!!
Joe :)
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...there have been alot of windtunnel testing things...that didnt work
worth didley......so just a caution there....similarly alot of dynotested stuff
blow's up in racing....
Joe :)
You're right there Joe - remember the Mercedes LeMans cars, that flipped end-over at speed? If they can get it wrong any hillbilly (joking here) can :D
Glad you got away pretty easy John. You've been an ambassador to Landspeed Racing for a long time, and an inspiration to so many.
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Bump.
What caused the crash ?