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TECHNICAL => MODS => Topic started by: BadNasty08 on May 22, 2015, 06:10:45 PM
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Which 4 into 1 exhaust is the best bang for the buck?
My Busa is a stock Orange & Black 2008 with only 4,700 miles, that I picked up about a month ago.
She's an amazing bike, but I might as well make her better. :twisted:
Thanks for any advice.
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You might want to add a tune to go with that exhaust . . .
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Brock.
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Brock.
I agree, Brock sells a complete exhaust system with a pre-mapped PCV for 89 octane pump. You have a choice of 3 maps, street, street/strip or strip only.
I got the PCV with the street map for 89 octane pump with my full titanium system from Brock and I am extremely satisfied with it. Stock exhaust weighs right around 47-48 lbs.................Brock's Titanium system/single titanium can weighs in at 8.5 lbs. BIG weight savings as well.
Ask for Steve in Sales/Tech.......or just dial Brock's Performance and follow the prompts and dial his extension - 105. Tell him Dave H. sent you.
No, I do not work for Brock's but I got my BST Carbon Rims from them as well.
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I'd have to go with Brocks also,love my Short Meg. :lol:
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Brock.
I agree, Brock sells a complete exhaust system with a pre-mapped PCV for 89 octane pump. You have a choice of 3 maps, street, street/strip or strip only.
I got the PCV with the street map for 89 octane pump with my full titanium system from Brock and I am extremely satisfied with it. Stock exhaust weighs right around 47-48 lbs.................Brock's Titanium system/single titanium can weighs in at 8.5 lbs. BIG weight savings as well.
Ask for Steve in Sales/Tech.......or just dial Brock's Performance and follow the prompts and dial his extension - 105. Tell him Dave H. sent you.
No, I do not work for Brock's but I got my BST Carbon Rims from them as well.
Thanks, It sounds like Brock's is the way to go. How much coin are we talking for this setup?
What's better, Alien or CT ?
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The CT is the big money(for rich guys like old Ghost-Geezer :lol:),and both the Alien Head and Short Meg run about $1,100 each.I chose the Short Meg over the Alien Head(same exact hp)just because the Short Meg has a removable baffle(1 set screw)whereas the Alien Head doesn't(just for occasionally pissin' off the neighbors when I'm in the mood :lol:).
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My total cost for the Titanium race pipe and pre-mapped Dynojet PCV was around 1850 - shipped to my door.
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My total cost for the Titanium race pipe and pre-mapped Dynojet PCV was around 1850 - shipped to my door.
So it shaves about 40 pounds off the bike, which is huge, but what is the horsepower gain?
Thanks
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Probably somewhere in the 12 hp range,give or take 1.
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I would think 40 less pounds and 12 more ponies would really wake things up !! :tu:
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Yeah it does,along with flashing your ECU to remove the top speed restriction,raise the rpm limit another 500,etc. :thumb:
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Yeah it does,along with flashing your ECU to remove the top speed restriction,raise the rpm limit another 500,etc. :thumb:
I already had Boosted Cycle Performance do that !! :tu:
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Had mine dyno'd yesterday(up about 10 hp from when I dropped it off),new tires,etc. and pick it up today around noon. :thumb:
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Had mine dyno'd yesterday(up about 10 hp from when I dropped it off),new tires,etc. and pick it up today around noon. :thumb:
Sweet, give us the lowdown when you get a chance.
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Will do bro. :thumb:
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Ti-Force. They have gone out of business due to the tsunami but Orient Express still has some pipes.
They are beautifully made, the welds are art quality probably the best bang for the buck in a street legal pipe IMHO.
Worth about 12 hp on my bike after tuning plus weight lose.
http://www.orientexpress.com/p-19518-tiforce-stainless-steel-exhaust.aspx
http://www.orientexpress.com/images/catalog/TIF1308Dyno1v16.jpg
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Ti-Force. They have gone out of business due to the tsunami but Orient Express still has some pipes.
They are beautifully made, the welds are art quality probably the best bang for the buck in a street legal pipe IMHO.
Worth about 12 hp on my bike after tuning plus weight lose.
http://www.orientexpress.com/p-19518-tiforce-stainless-steel-exhaust.aspx
http://www.orientexpress.com/images/catalog/TIF1308Dyno1v16.jpg
I have A Ti-Force Sumo on my bike (gen 1) Best pipe out there , You can still pick one up for a gen 2 at Orient Express , at least they had some a few months ago :) Brocks pipes are Made by Hindle
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My total cost for the Titanium race pipe and pre-mapped Dynojet PCV was around 1850 - shipped to my door.
So it shaves about 40 pounds off the bike, which is huge, but what is the horsepower gain?
Thanks
On average, 12-14 at the Rear Wheel.
The Ti-force stainless steel system is $1,075 and if you add $370 for a PCV Power Commander you are up to $1,445 and you still will have to dyno tune/map the bike........another $300, which gets you to a total of $1,745. You just spent about 100 bucks less than the full titanium race pipe from Brock's with a PCV matched to your year bike with Brock's map in it, and their street map is tuned for 89 pump gas. If you decide to change maps, they will provide/download their street/strip map or their strip map. I chose the street 'cuz that is all I do. Just install and go. Mucho less hassle and titanium is lighter than stainless. Just my 2 cents. :tu:
Davey
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Brock's looks like the way to go to me. :tu:
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Brock's looks like the way to go to me. :tu:
Folks on this site that know me will tell you I DO NOT compromise on stuff like this. I have had three Busas before my 2014 and two were turboed. I am always willing to go the extra mile, however, having said that, my current goal for this bike is 204 RWHP and 115 ft lbs on pump gas with a CNC port job and a slight compression raise with Web street cams. At the tender age of 67 (today is my birthday), my turbo days are behind me. (I did wreck one) :wink:
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Well hell,Happy Birthday older dude! :thumb:
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Brock's looks like the way to go to me. :tu:
Folks on this site that know me will tell you I DO NOT compromise on stuff like this. I have had three Busas before my 2014 and two were turboed. I am always willing to go the extra mile, however, having said that, my current goal for this bike is 204 RWHP and 115 ft lbs on pump gas with a CNC port job and a slight compression raise with Web street cams. At the tender age of 67 (today is my birthday), my turbo days are behind me. (I did wreck one) :wink:
Well Happy Birthday Brother !! :beechug:
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He's a good ol' boy,just 8 days older'n dirt. :lol:
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My total cost for the Titanium race pipe and pre-mapped Dynojet PCV was around 1850 - shipped to my door.
So it shaves about 40 pounds off the bike, which is huge, but what is the horsepower gain?
Thanks
On average, 12-14 at the Rear Wheel.
The Ti-force stainless steel system is $1,075 and if you add $370 for a PCV Power Commander you are up to $1,445 and you still will have to dyno tune/map the bike........another $300, which gets you to a total of $1,745. You just spent about 100 bucks less than the full titanium race pipe from Brock's with a PCV matched to your year bike with Brock's map in it, and their street map is tuned for 89 pump gas. If you decide to change maps, they will provide/download their street/strip map or their strip map. I chose the street 'cuz that is all I do. Just install and go. Mucho less hassle and titanium is lighter than stainless. Just my 2 cents. :tu:
Davey
Ti_Force Sumo is all Titanium and made 4 more hp then the Brocks pipe I had on the bike before , and the 1441 motor loves it !!!
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Ti_Force Sumo is all Titanium and made 4 more hp then the Brocks pipe I had on the bike before , and the 1441 motor loves it !!!
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I was only going by the price listed for the stainless system I saw on-line. Sorry if I made an error.
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I neglected to mention that Brock's does not charge you a dime to change to a different map if you buy their kit with the Power Commander and Pipe.
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He's a good ol' boy,just 8 days older'n dirt. :lol:
Not true................7 days older is all. :hys:
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:hys: :thumb:
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The CT is the big money(for rich guys like old Ghost-Geezer :lol:),and both the Alien Head and Short Meg run about $1,100 each.I chose the Short Meg over the Alien Head(same exact hp)just because the Short Meg has a removable baffle(1 set screw)whereas the Alien Head doesn't(just for occasionally pissin' off the neighbors when I'm in the mood :lol:).
Oh goodie I like the pissin off the neighbors part, can I help :lol:
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Brock's looks like the way to go to me. :tu:
Folks on this site that know me will tell you I DO NOT compromise on stuff like this. I have had three Busas before my 2014 and two were turboed. I am always willing to go the extra mile, however, having said that, my current goal for this bike is 204 RWHP and 115 ft lbs on pump gas with a CNC port job and a slight compression raise with Web street cams. At the tender age of 67 (today is my birthday), my turbo days are behind me. (I did wreck one) :wink:
Dam, hey Jeff did you see this..67.. we will have to get him a gold plated key to the executive washroom..........seriously uncle Dave, that's a accomplishment after all the crappola you have been through............Hey I road a V-Rod muscle today for a Harley it runs strong, but like all Harleys it tended to flatten out way to soon
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:lol: Hope I'm as spry as that old dude in another 5 years,have to represent for the AARP crowd. :lol: :thumb:
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:lol: Hope I'm as spry as that old dude in another 5 years,have to represent for the AARP crowd. :lol: :thumb:
Hell I feel like crap most of the time now, in 5-6 years who knows, may need a turbo wheel chair
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Me too buddy. :lol: Did you see the dyno sheet?About 198 SAE rwhp and 117 torque,bike idles and runs much smoother now,even has a different sound.Pretty stoked,tuner said it's the most he's ever seen out of a stock motored Busa. :thumb:(and that was on Shell 89,throw some MR12 in that bitch and would make about 205 :lol:)
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Me too buddy. :lol: Did you see the dyno sheet?About 198 SAE rwhp and 117 torque,bike idles and runs much smoother now,even has a different sound.Pretty stoked,tuner said it's the most he's ever seen out of a stock motored Busa. :thumb:(and that was on Shell 89,throw some MR12 in that bitch and would make about 205 :lol:)
Those are the highest numbers I have ever seen on a stock motor, no kiddin' pal. You should be proud.
Davey
Rodney Williford is known for having a "stingy" dyno. I am shakin' in my boots as to what it makes now and what it will make when he is done....................the good news is that he guarantees me +20 RWHP on pump gas or the headwork is FREE. That is a Bold Statement, in my book.
That is why he is gettin' my bike.............that and his record for doing the best work in North Carolina on a Busa. Any man who can build a bike that turns a 6.90 at 204 on race gas without wheelie bars must know a thing or two, ya know?
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Thanks for the responses guys, but I have decided not to sink any more money into the Busa because I will probably be selling it.
I rode my sons 2014 KTM 1290 Super Duke R and I am gonna have to have one, it's an amazing bad ass bike.
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That is an incredible motorcycle.............light as a feather, torque out the anus, RWHP is enormous, and it will turn and it will burn. You will love it. :tu: :bike:
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That is an incredible motorcycle.............light as a feather, torque out the anus, RWHP is enormous, and it will turn and it will burn. You will love it. :tu: :bike:
Yep, the power is amazing!! From 0 to 130 his Super Duke leaves my Busa in the dust. I was absolutely shocked.
The Busa will just always weigh too much.
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The guy who tuned my bike Friday just bought a 2015 Super Duke 1290,power wheelies in 4th gear(104 torque and has a really high center of gravity so wheelies come easily). :lol:Not my cup of tea but would be a fun bike to rip around on and disturb some peace,kinda like a giant Motard bike.
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The guy who tuned my bike Friday just bought a 2015 Super Duke 1290,power wheelies in 4th gear(104 torque and has a really high center of gravity so wheelies come easily). :lol:Not my cup of tea but would be a fun bike to rip around on and disturb some peace,kinda like a giant Motard bike.
My son's has Traction Control & Wheelie Control, I would think his would too.
If I do keep my Busa, I'm gonna have to up my game to keep up with him. I know the Brock's will drop about 40 pounds,
what can I do to drop more weight without breaking the bank?
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Lithium Ion battery weighs only 1 and 1/2 lbs and has 90 more cold cranking amps. Nothing else except carbon fiber rims..............4 grand a pop for BSTs. :shock:
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Lithium Ion battery weighs only 1 and 1/2 lbs and has 90 more cold cranking amps. Nothing else except carbon fiber rims..............4 grand a pop for BSTs. :shock:
Which one do you recommend? What does the normal stock battery weigh?
I will probably keep my Busa, it's the bike I've always wanted, but man that Super Duke is cool. 8)
My son said he will let me ride his once in a while. :)
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I just let the dealer put one in for me. Cost was 158.00 before tax. No labor. Stock battery weighs about 8 lbs.
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Just close up that pie hole and cut down on the triple cheeseburgers old man. :lol:
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Lithium Ion battery weighs only 1 and 1/2 lbs and has 90 more cold cranking amps. Nothing else except carbon fiber rims..............4 grand a pop for BSTs. :shock:
Which one do you recommend? What does the normal stock battery weigh?
I will probably keep my Busa, it's the bike I've always wanted, but man that Super Duke is cool. 8)
My son said he will let me ride his once in a while. :)
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Just close up that pie hole and cut down on the triple cheeseburgers old man. :lol:
Hey, I'm in pretty good shape for a 53 3/4 year old powerlifter !! :wink: :lol:
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:lol: :thumb:
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The guy who tuned my bike Friday just bought a 2015 Super Duke 1290,power wheelies in 4th gear(104 torque and has a really high center of gravity so wheelies come easily). :lol:Not my cup of tea but would be a fun bike to rip around on and disturb some peace,kinda like a giant Motard bike.
My son's has Traction Control & Wheelie Control, I would think his would too.
If I do keep my Busa, I'm gonna have to up my game to keep up with him. I know the Brock's will drop about 40 pounds,
what can I do to drop more weight without breaking the bank?
Drop 1 tooth on the front sprocket. It will wake up your bike BIG time and is dirt cheap!!
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Holy Gearteeth, Batman!!!!! One tooth out of an 18 toother is a 5.5% change to LOWER gearing in all gears...............that is like ADDING 2.4 rear sprocket
teeth. Seems like that is a lot for the first change................then again, I learned a long time ago on bikes, that if you are going to make
a change, don't take baby steps................MAKE A CHANGE!!! :wink:
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Busa's are so over geared from the factory that 1 down in the front makes a huge difference without the bike actually being geared too low in any way shape or form.
Good highway cruising and top speed too! 8)
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Hmm...
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Gen1 , 1441cc 1 down in front 2 up in rear 16/42 is the best punch you can have along with a r1 throttle tube :tu:
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Ti Force Suomo if you can find one,or the Akrapovic would be my choice. The Akra has a much better midrange than the Brocks and only sacrifices 1-2rwhp up top. Plus,its'a an Akrapovic...much better quality than Brocks/Hindle IMO.
As far as getting a "free" tune in you PCV when you buy from a company,it's a canned-tune. Any custom dyno tune specific to YOUR bike is better than a generic tune that is sent to hundreds if not thousands of customers who buy that PCV/pipe package.
Carpenter loads a generic tune into their engine packages when you bring your bike there. It runs great;he did work to my bike and loaded a map into my PCV made by a dude Brian in '08....I brought my bike to him in '11. Im not bashing him,cause the bike friggin FLY's and has had zero issues.
Been lazy but when I finally brought the bike in for a custom tune specific for my bike,the AFR on the Bob tune was very rich downstairs and very lean up top. Made some changes to the tune and walked away with another 6rwhp. Im not a fan of canned tunes,they get you close but they aint 100%. Just my worthless $.02 ;)
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Canned tunes are like canned tuna............not the same as one you caught this afternoon and ate for dinner. :lol:
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What to do, what to do... :?
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1) If I were you, I would do some on-line research to find the "bestest well respected dyno tuner" that is closest to you.
2) I would call him and "feel him out" on what your want. He may have a recommendation or two.
3) I would do some on-line research into various pipes you would like. Where do you want power? Will you sacrifice a little in the middle for more up top? That kind of stuff.
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I have installed a dark smoke Puig Racing Windscreen and had the ECU flashed by Boosted Cycle Performance.
Honestly, she's pretty darn sweet without doing anything else.
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Pretty much any good pipe will give you 10+ hp,just depends on whether you want a big can on the side or a small one and how much you want to spend.For a $1,000 and on a stock motor it's hard to beat a Brocks Short Meg or Alien Head(go to any track or land speed racing event and other than a sidewinder[which isn't much good for the street]you'll see mostly Brocks). :thumb:
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Pretty much any good pipe will give you 10+ hp,just depends on whether you want a big can on the side or a small one and how much you want to spend.For a $1,000 and on a stock motor it's hard to beat a Brocks Short Meg or Alien Head(go to any track or land speed racing event and other than a sidewinder[which isn't much good for the street]you'll see mostly Brocks). :thumb:
But then I'll need a power commander too right? I'm now thinking it's not worth it for a few more horsepower.
Plus the Busa will never be as quick & nimble as one of these bad boys...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiZAfrKUi-Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsbZTtEsRLU
I know it sounds hard to believe, but the Busa feels like a big slow barge compared to the Super Duke.
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What to do, what to do... :?
TURBO!!!!!!! :tu:
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I have installed a dark smoke Puig Racing Windscreen and had the ECU flashed by Boosted Cycle Performance.
Honestly, she's pretty darn sweet without doing anything else.
It is not just the 10-12 extra RWHP.......the bike loses 40 lbs also.
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Spend the few bucks on a front sprocket, and you'll be amazed at the difference!
Most bang for the $ :D
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Life is something, I finally get the bike I've always wanted (Hayabusa) and then I ride something that just blows my mind (Super Duke)
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Life is something, I finally get the bike I've always wanted (Hayabusa) and then I ride something that just blows my mind (Super Duke)
Dump the Busa and get the Duke. A Busa will NEVER be a Duke. Two different fruits like apples and oranges. :wink:
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Holy Gearteeth, Batman!!!!! One tooth out of an 18 toother is a 5.5% change to LOWER gearing in all gears...............that is like ADDING 2.4 rear sprocket
teeth. Seems like that is a lot for the first change................then again, I learned a long time ago on bikes, that if you are going to make
a change, don't take baby steps................MAKE A CHANGE!!! :wink:
He's right, 1 tooth down in the front will make a change you can feel, probably as much as the other bolt on mods combined
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Life is something, I finally get the bike I've always wanted (Hayabusa) and then I ride something that just blows my mind (Super Duke)
Dump the Busa and get the Duke. A Busa will NEVER be a Duke. Two different fruits like apples and oranges. :wink:
You are 100% right brother !! :thumb: I guess after years of hearing about Hayabusas I was expecting too much.
To me, The Super Duke 1290 R is much more mind blowing than my Busa.
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Life is something, I finally get the bike I've always wanted (Hayabusa) and then I ride something that just blows my mind (Super Duke)
Dump the Busa and get the Duke. A Busa will NEVER be a Duke. Two different fruits like apples and oranges. :wink:
You are 100% right brother !! :thumb: I guess after years of hearing about Hayabusas I was expecting too much.
To me, The Super Duke 1290 R is much more mind blowing than my Busa.
If anyone out there is in Kansas, I have a gorgeous Orange & Black 2008 Hayabusa for sale.
It has brand new tires, a brand new battery, and an ecu flash from boosted cycle performance.
only 4,900 miles.
Do a 1441 w head/cam and you will forget all about that KTM....trust me :mrgreen:
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You still might as well spend 20-30 bucks on a front sprocket to see the possibilities and potential of your Busa. I highly doubt the Duke will out sprint it up to 130 with that change alone..then imagine a 10 hp gain and 40 lb. weight loss!!! :wink:
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The Ti-Force pipe for a Gen II is the same header and mid-pipe as the Ti-Force Sumo for a Gen I. Stainless though and not titanium.
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Turbo 015, SEJ and CJ...................You guys are just like my first wife - Ya Don't Fuggin' Listen!!!!!!!
The man already said I wuz right and his Busa is for sale after which -SUPERDUKE 1290.................End of Story, guys.
Truth be told, if wifey would throw me another 20K, (and believe me she has got that...........and about 175K more/inheritance),
I would have both my Busa AND a nice new Superduke 1290. That would be a blast!!!!
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Don't give up on me Double G, my heart is telling me I should keep my Busa. She is a mighty sweet bike.
The Super Duke is very cool, but it's more of a play bike for shorter rides.
I would like to do some things to maximize the performance of my Busa and still maintain the refined feel.
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Just trying to pass along something that I have learned thinking others that read the thread may use it to guide their decision making. :beechug:
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Just trying to pass along something that I have learned thinking others that read the thread may use it to guide their decision making. :beechug:
Very wise statement. :beechug:
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Thanks for the responses guys, but I have decided not to sink any more money into the Busa because I will probably be selling it.
I rode my sons 2014 KTM 1290 Super Duke R and I am gonna have to have one, it's an amazing bad ass bike.
Thar she blows, matey!!!
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Life is something, I finally get the bike I've always wanted (Hayabusa) and then I ride something that just blows my mind (Super Duke)
Dump the Busa and get the Duke. A Busa will NEVER be a Duke. Two different fruits like apples and oranges. :wink:
You are 100% right brother !! :thumb: I guess after years of hearing about Hayabusas I was expecting too much.
To me, The Super Duke 1290 R is much more mind blowing than my Busa.
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And again!!!
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Turbo 015, SEJ and CJ...................You guys are just like my first wife - Ya Don't Fuggin' Listen!!!!!!!
The man already said I wuz right and his Busa is for sale after which -SUPERDUKE 1290.................End of Story, guys.
Truth be told, if wifey would throw me another 20K, (and believe me she has got that...........and about 175K more/inheritance),
I would have both my Busa AND a nice new Superduke 1290. That would be a blast!!!!
Ghost-Geezer, I hear you loud and clear! I would love to own a Duke myself. But if you can only own one bike and had to live with it every day at 52...
I'm with you on owning them both!
I love road racing, drag racing, land speed racing, and I ride on the street almost everyday this time of year.
I can't decide, so I own eight bikes. It might sound nice, but it's a big pain in my hind end because I don't have the time.
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Turbo 015, SEJ and CJ...................You guys are just like my first wife - Ya Don't Fuggin' Listen!!!!!!!
The man already said I wuz right and his Busa is for sale after which -SUPERDUKE 1290.................End of Story, guys.
Truth be told, if wifey would throw me another 20K, (and believe me she has got that...........and about 175K more/inheritance),
I would have both my Busa AND a nice new Superduke 1290. That would be a blast!!!!
Ghost-Geezer, I hear you loud and clear! I would love to own a Duke myself. But if you can only own one bike and had to live with it every day at 52...
I'm with you on owning them both!
I love road racing, drag racing, land speed racing, and I ride on the street almost everyday this time of year.
I can't decide, so I own eight bikes. It might sound nice, but it's a big pain in my hind end because I don't have the time.
Own them both. Get the Busa "speed-breathed-on" and lightened/tuned with the pipe change and RIDE THEM BOTH!!!!!!!!!!!! :tu: :bike:
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That's the point! BadNasty08 has to decide on ONE bike to be and all rounder, do everything motorcycle!
The Busa wins hands down!!!
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My Hayabusa is a much better all around bike than the Super Duke, especially when my 2 sons and I ride to Colorado
to carve up those mountain roads eventually.
My oldest son has a 2012 Ninja ZX-10R, my youngest has the 2014 Super Duke & a 2014 Ducati 1199 Panigale.
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BadNasty08...I'm older than you and younger than Ghost-Geezer. As BAD as that Duke is, you'll be much happier in the long run with the Busa. A couple of small mods and the Duke will be in your mirrors!
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BadNasty08...I'm older than you and younger than Ghost-Geezer. As BAD as that Duke is, you'll be much happier in the long run with the Busa. A couple of small mods and the Duke will be in your mirrors!
I'm sticking with my Busa, it really is an awesome bike. If I go with a 17 tooth front sprocket do I need a new chain? Speedo corrector?
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Same chain, speedo healer if you want. It will read fast, but once you figure out how fast you are actually traveling, by gps or one of those radar signs that says"this is your speed" you'll pretty much know. The biggest issue is the odometer.
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Same chain, speedo healer if you want. It will read fast, but once you figure out how fast you are actually traveling, by gps or one of those radar signs that says"this is your speed" you'll pretty much know. The biggest issue is the odometer.
I forgot about that, I'll probably leave the gearing stock.
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The speedo healer/corection takes care of that!!!!!
Change the gearing!!!!
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When I said the"odometer is the biggest issue", I meant on your decision to go with the mph correction or not. If you decide to correct it, the odometer is also "corrected".
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The speedo healer/corection takes care of that!!!!!
Change the gearing!!!!
Would you put a new rear sprocket on too at the same time? My stock ones have 4,900 miles on them.
Is changing the front easy, I hate working on stuff.
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Front sprocket is easy and leave the stock rear sprocket alone.
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You want to really wake her up go 2 up in the rear to I run 16/42 on my gen 1 , It will make most people think i'm spraying
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But we're talking about an everyday all purpose street bike, not a street/ strip bike. One down in the front is perfect.
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You want to really wake her up go 2 up in the rear to I run 16/42 on my gen 1 , It will make most people think i'm spraying
Lets put that gearing on my stock wheelbase Gen2 and see how far you get...instant faceplant into asphalt :hys:
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You want to really wake her up go 2 up in the rear to I run 16/42 on my gen 1 , It will make most people think i'm spraying
Lets put that gearing on my stock wheelbase Gen2 and see how far you get...instant faceplant into asphalt :hys:
I would be a back of the head plant to be exact :hys: and you just dont have the balls to ride a beast like that :rfl: :ssht: :ab:
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Lol,you would be the slowest 1441 in the country with that gearing on SWB bike :D
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Lol,you would be the slowest 1441 in the country with that gearing on SWB bike :D
It still trapped at 159 as a1397 with that gearing , :bike: But yes she is not a SWB ! Its got a Mc arm but only set 4 over :D
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I'm stopping with what I've done (Flash & Windscreen) I love to ride bikes, but I hate working on a them. (No Patience)
Having to remove fairings and stuff makes the Busa not very maintenance & mod friendly.
Thanks guys.
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After finally getting a chance to log some decent miles (205) this weekend, the first "mod" needs to be HeliBars.
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I've had them on all 3 of my Busas,makes it a little more comfortable for us old farts. :lol:
Took a few pics for comparison when installing mine,Heli on the clutch side(and that's with a Brock's top tree,with a stock tree they'd be even higher though I don't know if you'd have issues with masters hitting the screen without a little jockeying stuff around).
(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd353/piratediverjefff/4-23-2013Heli-Bars001_zps21e901ca.jpg) (http://s531.photobucket.com/user/piratediverjefff/media/4-23-2013Heli-Bars001_zps21e901ca.jpg.html)
(http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd353/piratediverjefff/4-23-2013Heli-Bars003_zps1d43c501.jpg) (http://s531.photobucket.com/user/piratediverjefff/media/4-23-2013Heli-Bars003_zps1d43c501.jpg.html)
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Do they make a big enough difference to mess with?
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Yeah they do bro. :thumb:
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I have these spacers on my '03. They raise and bring the bars closer to you. I was able to use stock cables and brake/ clutch lines. (Barely)
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Well guys, the KTM dealer (Nebraska) emailed me today and said they can give me 8k for the Busa.
I might be making a trip...
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Take about 11K with ya. Those bikes cost money.
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Take about 11K with ya. Those bikes cost money.
It's a brand new black 2014 with 0 miles. As of right now they are down to $16,200 for it.
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I would like to thank all you guys for answering my questions and offering your advice, I appreciate it. :tu:
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When I bought my last new Busa I took in a photocopy from Cycle Trader of a couple with the best prices and asked if they'd match,they did and saved me about $2K(worth a shot anyway).
http://www.cycletrader.com/Ktm-1290-Super-Duke-Motorcycles----CycleTrader.com/search-results?condition=N&make=Ktm|2319322&model=1290+Super+Duke&schemecode=AD&sort=featured:desc&type=356953&&year=*:2014&modelkeyword=1&
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Take about 11K with ya. Those bikes cost money.
It's a brand new black 2014 with 0 miles. As of right now they are down to $16,200 for it.
If I could have two bikes, the Busa would be sleeping next to the 1290 Duke. :thumb: :tu: :bike:
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I've pretty much decided against the Super Duke. They are awesome, but overpriced.
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* Double post
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My total cost for the Titanium race pipe and pre-mapped Dynojet PCV was around 1850 - shipped to my door.
That price included the PCV ?
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Back to getting a little spark from your ride, I would do the front sprocket for sure. Stock chain of course will work fine.
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Back to getting a little spark from your ride, I would do the front sprocket for sure. Stock chain of course will work fine.
I think they are still "butter-ish" and stretch too often...........EK ZZZ.
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Don't throw too much at him as he seems to get discouraged easily from all the input.....information overload....
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Back to getting a little spark from your ride, I would do the front sprocket for sure. Stock chain of course will work fine.
I think they are still "butter-ish" and stretch too often...........EK ZZZ.
Proper maintenance is key,I have 7500mi on my original OEM chain,and 7300 have been with the 1441. Add a few hundred passes down the 1/4mi as well. Looks brand spankin new,no significant signs of wear.
A ZZZ is 100% overkill on a stock engine Gen2 street bike
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Don't throw too much at him as he seems to get discouraged easily from all the input.....information overload....
Lol. Yeah, I have been too distracted with all the latest greatest bikes to appreciate what I have.
I've come to the conclusion that my Busa is a Keeper, she is a Smooth Beast that I'm going to make more Beastly.
So far I added a Puig Racing Windscreen and had Boosted Cycle Performance flash the ECU (Major Difference)
Here's my plan for additional mods:
1) Helibars & New Grips
2) 1" Lower Footpegs
3) 17 Tooth Front Sprocket & Speedo Healer
4) Full Exhaust System (Winter Project)
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Change of plans guys, I cant keep this bike. In stock form the Haybusa is Lame and nothing but hype.
I shouldn't have to spend a bunch of money to get some performance out of a so called "Legend"
Ride safe
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Man,you change your mind more than most people change underwear. :lol:Oh well,Busas aren't for everybody. :thumb:
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Man,you change your mind more than most people change underwear. :lol:Oh well,Busas aren't for everybody. :thumb:
I've really tried to like this bike, but it just doesn't live up to the hype that I've heard since 1999.
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Man,you change your mind more than most people change underwear. :lol:Oh well,Busas aren't for everybody. :thumb:
I've really tried to like this bike, but it just doesn't live up to the hype that I've heard since 1999.
Did you ride a Hayabusa back in 99? No you didn't. The closest competition for all around fun was maybe the Honda Blackbird and Kawasaki ZX11.
You expect a Hayabusa to still be the best of the best? It was built for speed not for cornering, not for touring, not for stunting.....although with the right rider does all of this pretty good considering. Do you forget this bike dominated for nearly 8 years before Kawi came out with the ZX14? Gen I is 8 years old, Gen II is now 7 years old itself. What do you expect?
Where the Hayabusa excels and will still excel is in the opportunity to make it nearly the absolute best at everything within a somewhat reasonable price tag as well as the ease of getting there with largest aftermarket support next to the Chevy SBC engine.
Have fun with your next purchase just to find out 1 year later it is no longer the bike to own....
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Man,you change your mind more than most people change underwear. :lol:Oh well,Busas aren't for everybody. :thumb:
I've really tried to like this bike, but it just doesn't live up to the hype that I've heard since 1999.
Did you ride a Hayabusa back in 99? No you didn't. The closest competition for all around fun was maybe the Honda Blackbird and Kawasaki ZX11.
You expect a Hayabusa to still be the best of the best? It was built for speed not for cornering, not for touring, not for stunting.....although with the right rider does all of this pretty good considering. Do you forget this bike dominated for nearly 8 years before Kawi came out with the ZX14? Gen I is 8 years old, Gen II is now 7 years old itself. What do you expect?
Where the Hayabusa excels and will still excel is in the opportunity to make it nearly the absolute best at everything within a somewhat reasonable price tag as well as the ease of getting there with largest aftermarket support next to the Chevy SBC engine.
Have fun with your next purchase just to find out 1 year later it is no longer the bike to own....
Couldn't have said it any better myself bro. :tu:
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Let the man make his own decision, for goodness sakes, mens!!!!!!
A KTM Duke 1290 will never crack 200. A warmed over Busa will. That is what I am talkin' about.
Never the less, let's just leave him alone. We have talked about this way to long anyways. 8)
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Change of plans guys, I cant keep this bike. In stock form the Haybusa is Lame and nothing but hype.
I shouldn't have to spend a bunch of money to get some performance out of a so called "Legend"
Ride safe
I don't think I'd say "Lame" but it depends on what you compare it to, I think most of us would have to agree that when you compare the Busa, a Kaw 14, Super duke, and whatever else, on a dragstrip it really is going to depend on the rider, now on the Dragon I'm sure the Duke would be out front, personaly I think the Superduke is overpriced, and I don't care for the look
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I just got back from riding his Super Duke again, I'm not real fond of the riding position to be honest.
I prefer to sit more "in" the bike, and have more bike in front of me. With the S D you sit up high like on a dirt bike.
The motor is really amazing, but I have to agree that it is overpriced. This ride made me appreciate my Busa.
I was a bit harsh saying the Busa is lame.
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I just got back from riding his Super Duke again, I'm not real fond of the riding position to be honest.
I prefer to sit more "in" the bike, and have more bike in front of me. With the S D you sit up high like on a dirt bike.
The motor is really amazing, but I have to agree that it is overpriced. This ride made me appreciate my Busa.
I was a bit harsh saying the Busa is lame.
You are the most ambivalent person I have ever heard on this site...............I'll just bet when ya take that first dump in the mornin' it takes ya 5 minutes to
decide which hand to wipe yer arse with......................take the bus..........it is safer. :ohman:
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I just got back from riding his Super Duke again, I'm not real fond of the riding position to be honest.
I prefer to sit more "in" the bike, and have more bike in front of me. With the S D you sit up high like on a dirt bike.
The motor is really amazing, but I have to agree that it is overpriced. This ride made me appreciate my Busa.
I was a bit harsh saying the Busa is lame.
You are the most ambivalent person I have ever heard on this site...............I'll just bet when ya take that first dump in the mornin' it takes ya 5 minutes to
decide which hand to wipe yer arse with......................take the bus..........it is safer. :ohman:
And speaking of taking a dump... I go like clockwork every morning at 6:00 am, but the problem is I don't get up until 7:00 am !! :sh:
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I just got back from riding his Super Duke again, I'm not real fond of the riding position to be honest.
I prefer to sit more "in" the bike, and have more bike in front of me. With the S D you sit up high like on a dirt bike.
The motor is really amazing, but I have to agree that it is overpriced. This ride made me appreciate my Busa.
I was a bit harsh saying the Busa is lame.
You are the most ambivalent person I have ever heard on this site...............I'll just bet when ya take that first dump in the mornin' it takes ya 5 minutes to
decide which hand to wipe yer arse with......................take the bus..........it is safer. :ohman:
And speaking of taking a dump... I go like clockwork every morning at 6:00 am, but the problem is I don't get up until 7:00 am !! :sh:
:hys: :thumb:
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I just got back from riding his Super Duke again, I'm not real fond of the riding position to be honest.
I prefer to sit more "in" the bike, and have more bike in front of me. With the S D you sit up high like on a dirt bike.
The motor is really amazing, but I have to agree that it is overpriced. This ride made me appreciate my Busa.
I was a bit harsh saying the Busa is lame.
You are the most ambivalent person I have ever heard on this site...............I'll just bet when ya take that first dump in the mornin' it takes ya 5 minutes to
decide which hand to wipe yer arse with......................take the bus..........it is safer. :ohman:
Ive been waiting 6yrs to use the word ambivalent on a forum,and you beat me to it. Now I shall be forced to wait again. Bastard.
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:hys: :thumb:
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I just got back from riding his Super Duke again, I'm not real fond of the riding position to be honest.
I prefer to sit more "in" the bike, and have more bike in front of me. With the S D you sit up high like on a dirt bike.
The motor is really amazing, but I have to agree that it is overpriced. This ride made me appreciate my Busa.
I was a bit harsh saying the Busa is lame.
You are the most ambivalent person I have ever heard on this site...............I'll just bet when ya take that first dump in the mornin' it takes ya 5 minutes to
decide which hand to wipe yer arse with......................take the bus..........it is safer. :ohman:
And speaking of taking a dump... I go like clockwork every morning at 6:00 am, but the problem is I don't get up until 7:00 am !! :sh:
No wonder he's called nasty :eek:
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I just got back from riding his Super Duke again, I'm not real fond of the riding position to be honest.
I prefer to sit more "in" the bike, and have more bike in front of me. With the S D you sit up high like on a dirt bike.
The motor is really amazing, but I have to agree that it is overpriced. This ride made me appreciate my Busa.
I was a bit harsh saying the Busa is lame.
You are the most ambivalent person I have ever heard on this site...............I'll just bet when ya take that first dump in the mornin' it takes ya 5 minutes to
decide which hand to wipe yer arse with......................take the bus..........it is safer. :ohman:
Ive been waiting 6yrs to use the word ambivalent on a forum,and you beat me to it. Now I shall be forced to wait again. Bastard.
English was my Major in college and History was my minor. I have a word for ya to use pal "insipid". Work that in somewhere. :tu: :mrgreen:
P.S. "Gregarious" is a close second 8).
P.P.S. Mother and Dad were married on April 4th 1942 and dad went off to fight the Germans, came back a Major, I was born in 48. Ain't no bastard. :wink:
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Your advice and efforts have not been in vain gentlemen, I'm keeping my Beautiful Black & Orange Beast.
I'm going to spend the coin and make her a Monster. :tu:
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Your advice and efforts have not been in vain gentlemen, I'm keeping my Beautiful Black & Orange Beast.
I'm going to spend the coin and make her a Monster. :tu:
If you REALLY mean that.............promise to post pics and list mods.
I have already given my word to this board that when my little project is done on this '14 Busa, there will be dyno charts before and after, and the best of 3 time slips at the racetrack, with a pic of Old Me and Young Rodney with the bike as it ran the 1/4 mile.
You don't have to do all that, but a few pics and a list of mods would suffice. Now go straighten up your room and make the bed, ya lazy fugger. :hys:
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Your advice and efforts have not been in vain gentlemen, I'm keeping my Beautiful Black & Orange Beast.
I'm going to spend the coin and make her a Monster. :tu:
If you REALLY mean that.............promise to post pics and list mods.
I have already given my word to this board that when my little project is done on this '14 Busa, there will be dyno charts before and after, and the best of 3 time slips at the racetrack, with a pic of Old Me and Young Rodney with the bike as it ran the 1/4 mile.
You don't have to do all that, but a few pics and a list of mods would suffice. Now go straighten up your room and make the bed, ya lazy fugger. :hys:
I mean it, how do I post pics on this forum?
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ADMIN or Whomever,
Help this man out, please.
Thanks,
Davey
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I figured it out. Taking a break during a recent ride...
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From another recent ride...
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OK Ghost-Geezer...
I have a 17 tooth front sprocket, Speedo Healer, HeliBars and new grips on the way. Those should be some nice upgrades.
Brock Davidson told me my ECU would have to be flashed back to stock for his systems to work, so I might leave it stock.
* I also just ordered the Yoshi Fender Eliminator Kit and Rear Spools. Oh Yeah !!
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OK Ghost-Geezer...
I have a 17 tooth front sprocket, Speedo Healer, HeliBars and new grips on the way. Those should be some nice upgrades.
Brock Davidson told me my ECU would have to be flashed back to stock for his systems to work, so I might leave it stock.
Dump the stock pipes and get a stainless or ti race system...........bike will lose almost 40 lbs............Brocks Performance sells a package that comes with the pipe and a PCV Power Commander tuned for that pipe, your year bike and 89 octane (non-ethanol)..........worth about 10-12 RWHP in many cases and your bike will be almost 40 lbs lighter. No, I do not work for Brocks.............I just run his shit and love it.
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OK Ghost-Geezer...
I have a 17 tooth front sprocket, Speedo Healer, HeliBars and new grips on the way. Those should be some nice upgrades.
Brock Davidson told me my ECU would have to be flashed back to stock for his systems to work, so I might leave it stock.
Dump the stock pipes and get a stainless or ti race system...........bike will lose almost 40 lbs............Brocks Performance sells a package that comes with the pipe and a PCV Power Commander tuned for that pipe, your year bike and 89 octane (non-ethanol)..........worth about 10-12 RWHP in many cases and your bike will be almost 40 lbs lighter. No, I do not work for Brocks.............I just run his shit and love it.
Brock Davidson told me (email) my ECU would have to flashed back to stock for his systems to work properly.
I'm not going mess around with sending my ECU off again to put it back to factory settings.
This is from the guy that flashed my ECU:
"As for what Brock said, I have no idea. I don't install or tune any of his products. I will say though that the only thing that has changed in your ecu is the ignition map. None of the fueling maps have been changed. So it does not make a bit of sense to me as to why he would say that."
Brock's can shove it, I'll be going with a different company.
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I don't see where a standard ECU flash(turn off top speed restriction and pair valve,raise rpm limit by 500,etc.,etc.,etc.)would have anything to do with it as long as the guy didn't try to fool with fueling maps,etc.(which is what Brock would be concerned about since his systems are pretty spot on with his maps loaded into his PCV's).Go to any drag strip and if they aren't running a sidewinder probably 90% of the racers are running a Brocks exhaust,best bang for the buck. :thumb:
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I don't see where a standard ECU flash(turn off top speed restriction and pair valve,raise rpm limit by 500,etc.,etc.,etc.)would have anything to do with it as long as the guy didn't try to fool with fueling maps,etc.(which is what Brock would be concerned about since his systems are pretty spot on with his maps loaded into his PCV's).Go to any drag strip and if they aren't running a sidewinder probably 90% of the racers are running a Brocks exhaust,best bang for the buck. :thumb:
It sounds to me like Brock doesn't know what he is talking about.
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I'm pretty sure he does,he's been at this stuff a long time but with all the knuckleheads out there trying to flash and fool with everybody's ECU's(I hear it's even all over Facebook now :hys:)I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to see anybody installing his stuff on a bike where somebody may(or may not)have messed a fueling map up and then blame his exhaust system when the bike runs like shit.
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I'm pretty sure he does,he's been at this stuff a long time but with all the knuckleheads out there trying to flash and fool with everybody's ECU's(I hear it's even all over Facebook now :hys:)I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to see anybody installing his stuff on a bike where somebody may(or may not)have messed a fueling map up and then blame his exhaust system when the bike runs like shit.
His stuff is way overpriced anyway. :eek:
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$1095 for a full system that out produces most everything out there is about as good as it gets.Took me awhile,but I think you just like to disagree with people and keep the pot stirred. :lol:
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$1095 for a full system that out produces most everything out there is about as good as it gets.Took me awhile,but I think you just like to disagree with people and keep the pot stirred. :lol:
I didn't see any full systems that reasonable on their website. Me stir the pot?? Never !! :wink:
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http://www.brocksperformance.com/ShortMeg-2-Full-System-+I397918+C248.aspx :lol:
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I'm pretty sure he does,he's been at this stuff a long time but with all the knuckleheads out there trying to flash and fool with everybody's ECU's(I hear it's even all over Facebook now :hys:)I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to see anybody installing his stuff on a bike where somebody may(or may not)have messed a fueling map up and then blame his exhaust system when the bike runs like shit.
His stuff is way overpriced anyway. :eek:
I never drank the Brock Kool-Aid,I always use Akrapovic exhausts. The quality is top notch,they produce some of the best midrange/top end for a street pipe and not that it matters,but many of the bike manufacturers use Akrapovic on their race bikes like Yamaha on their Moto GP bikes,Team Kawasaki on their Superbikes,Team Honda,etc. What does this have to do with a street bike pipe? Not much,but if billion dollar companies trust Akra quality you can too.
Besides,like you said Brock's prices are ridiculous. Who the hell pays $369 for a PCV? I bought mine brand new for $210 shipped with a baseline map installed. This is the main reason I wont buy most of his products,and definitely wont buy his pipe which is made by Hindle.
Bottom line is,it's your money buy what makes you happy. But there are other exhaust that are equal/and or better than Brocks/Hindle. Just do some research :tu:
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I'm pretty sure he does,he's been at this stuff a long time but with all the knuckleheads out there trying to flash and fool with everybody's ECU's(I hear it's even all over Facebook now :hys:)I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to see anybody installing his stuff on a bike where somebody may(or may not)have messed a fueling map up and then blame his exhaust system when the bike runs like shit.
His stuff is way overpriced anyway. :eek:
I never drank the Brock Kool-Aid,I always use Akrapovic exhausts. The quality is top notch,they produce some of the best midrange/top end for a street pipe and not that it matters,but many of the bike manufacturers use Akrapovic on their race bikes like Yamaha on their Moto GP bikes,Team Kawasaki on their Superbikes,Team Honda,etc. What does this have to do with a street bike pipe? Not much,but if billion dollar companies trust Akra quality you can too.
Besides,like you said Brock's prices are ridiculous. Who the hell pays $369 for a PCV? I bought mine brand new for $210 shipped with a baseline map installed. This is the main reason I wont buy most of his products,and definitely wont buy his pipe which is made by Hindle.
Bottom line is,it's your money buy what makes you happy. But there are other exhaust that are equal/and or better than Brocks/Hindle. Just do some research :tu:
Thanks, I hate Kool-Aid. I'm thinking Akra or Yoshi.
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Then by all means get an Akrapovic and a PCV and have the sucker Dyno-Mapped/tuned. You will be amazed at the difference. Just dump those stock pipes and get a tune.
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Then by all means get an Akrapovic and a PCV and have the sucker Dyno-Mapped/tuned. You will be amazed at the difference. Just dump those stock pipes and get a tune.
At this point any decent exhaust would be better than stock as long as you get rid of the heavy cat/mufflers...(even the shitty Coffman "exhaust") from the thread on the other forum....I kid I kid. :vl:
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Then by all means get an Akrapovic and a PCV and have the sucker Dyno-Mapped/tuned. You will be amazed at the difference. Just dump those stock pipes and get a tune.
At this point any decent exhaust would be better than stock as long as you get rid of the heavy cat/mufflers...(even the shitty Coffman "exhaust") from the thread on the other forum....I kid I kid. :vl:
Get that fuggin' "'15 John Deere L-someshit tractor" off your signature. We do not work on tractors on this website, we just work on each other verbally. :hys:
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My momma always told me: You can judge a man by his tractor and his tool inventory......By the way,ave you driven a Deere lately? I have more seat time on that tractor than I get on the bike(s) each week. 2hrs to cut 2acres :mrgreen:
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I only have a self-propelled walk behind...............my wife cuts the grass............she thinks it is healthy...........breathing in all that shit............I just got her two surgical masks and she sez she will use them. I keep the lawnmower sharpened and do not run ethanol thru it. She cuts. We havle a bit less than an acre and 1/2 of it is woods. Takes her about 1 hour and 15 minutes. :hys:
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My dad told me two things.............."you can tell a lot about a man by the way he keeps all his stuff".............."the other thing was you can tell a rich man by the number of keys he carries."
That's that.
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I'm pretty sure he does,he's been at this stuff a long time but with all the knuckleheads out there trying to flash and fool with everybody's ECU's(I hear it's even all over Facebook now :hys:)I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to see anybody installing his stuff on a bike where somebody may(or may not)have messed a fueling map up and then blame his exhaust system when the bike runs like shit.
His stuff is way overpriced anyway. :eek:
I never drank the Brock Kool-Aid,I always use Akrapovic exhausts. The quality is top notch,they produce some of the best midrange/top end for a street pipe and not that it matters,but many of the bike manufacturers use Akrapovic on their race bikes like Yamaha on their Moto GP bikes,Team Kawasaki on their Superbikes,Team Honda,etc. What does this have to do with a street bike pipe? Not much,but if billion dollar companies trust Akra quality you can too.
Besides,like you said Brock's prices are ridiculous. Who the hell pays $369 for a PCV? I bought mine brand new for $210 shipped with a baseline map installed. This is the main reason I wont buy most of his products,and definitely wont buy his pipe which is made by Hindle.
Bottom line is,it's your money buy what makes you happy. But there are other exhaust that are equal/and or better than Brocks/Hindle. Just do some research :tu:
Thanks, I hate Kool-Aid. I'm thinking Akra or Yoshi.
I'm out,good luck with whatever you eventually choose...IF you ever choose. :hys:
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I'm pretty sure he does,he's been at this stuff a long time but with all the knuckleheads out there trying to flash and fool with everybody's ECU's(I hear it's even all over Facebook now :hys:)I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to see anybody installing his stuff on a bike where somebody may(or may not)have messed a fueling map up and then blame his exhaust system when the bike runs like shit.
His stuff is way overpriced anyway. :eek:
I never drank the Brock Kool-Aid,I always use Akrapovic exhausts. The quality is top notch,they produce some of the best midrange/top end for a street pipe and not that it matters,but many of the bike manufacturers use Akrapovic on their race bikes like Yamaha on their Moto GP bikes,Team Kawasaki on their Superbikes,Team Honda,etc. What does this have to do with a street bike pipe? Not much,but if billion dollar companies trust Akra quality you can too.
Besides,like you said Brock's prices are ridiculous. Who the hell pays $369 for a PCV? I bought mine brand new for $210 shipped with a baseline map installed. This is the main reason I wont buy most of his products,and definitely wont buy his pipe which is made by Hindle.
Bottom line is,it's your money buy what makes you happy. But there are other exhaust that are equal/and or better than Brocks/Hindle. Just do some research :tu:
Thanks, I hate Kool-Aid. I'm thinking Akra or Yoshi.
I'm out,good luck with whatever you eventually choose...IF you ever choose. :hys:
I'll choose, but it will not be Brock's.
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I'm pretty sure he does,he's been at this stuff a long time but with all the knuckleheads out there trying to flash and fool with everybody's ECU's(I hear it's even all over Facebook now :hys:)I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to see anybody installing his stuff on a bike where somebody may(or may not)have messed a fueling map up and then blame his exhaust system when the bike runs like shit.
His stuff is way overpriced anyway. :eek:
I never drank the Brock Kool-Aid,I always use Akrapovic exhausts. The quality is top notch,they produce some of the best midrange/top end for a street pipe and not that it matters,but many of the bike manufacturers use Akrapovic on their race bikes like Yamaha on their Moto GP bikes,Team Kawasaki on their Superbikes,Team Honda,etc. What does this have to do with a street bike pipe? Not much,but if billion dollar companies trust Akra quality you can too.
Besides,like you said Brock's prices are ridiculous. Who the hell pays $369 for a PCV? I bought mine brand new for $210 shipped with a baseline map installed. This is the main reason I wont buy most of his products,and definitely wont buy his pipe which is made by Hindle.
Bottom line is,it's your money buy what makes you happy. But there are other exhaust that are equal/and or better than Brocks/Hindle. Just do some research :tu:
Thanks, I hate Kool-Aid. I'm thinking Akra or Yoshi.
I'm out,good luck with whatever you eventually choose...IF you ever choose. :hys:
A PCV for $210 is the deal of the week for sure bro,I see them on Amazon for $280 up.
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dynojet-power-commander-v
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I'm pretty sure he does,he's been at this stuff a long time but with all the knuckleheads out there trying to flash and fool with everybody's ECU's(I hear it's even all over Facebook now :hys:)I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to see anybody installing his stuff on a bike where somebody may(or may not)have messed a fueling map up and then blame his exhaust system when the bike runs like shit.
His stuff is way overpriced anyway. :eek:
I never drank the Brock Kool-Aid,I always use Akrapovic exhausts. The quality is top notch,they produce some of the best midrange/top end for a street pipe and not that it matters,but many of the bike manufacturers use Akrapovic on their race bikes like Yamaha on their Moto GP bikes,Team Kawasaki on their Superbikes,Team Honda,etc. What does this have to do with a street bike pipe? Not much,but if billion dollar companies trust Akra quality you can too.
Besides,like you said Brock's prices are ridiculous. Who the hell pays $369 for a PCV? I bought mine brand new for $210 shipped with a baseline map installed. This is the main reason I wont buy most of his products,and definitely wont buy his pipe which is made by Hindle.
Bottom line is,it's your money buy what makes you happy. But there are other exhaust that are equal/and or better than Brocks/Hindle. Just do some research :tu:
Thanks, I hate Kool-Aid. I'm thinking Akra or Yoshi.
I'm out,good luck with whatever you eventually choose...IF you ever choose. :hys:
I'll choose, but it will not be Brock's.
Good for you.
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That is an incredible motorcycle.............light as a feather, torque out the anus, RWHP is enormous, and it will turn and it will burn. You will love it. :tu: :bike:
Yep, the power is amazing!! From 0 to 130 his Super Duke leaves my Busa in the dust. I was absolutely shocked.
The Busa will just always weigh too much.
The Gen II Busa is almost half a second quicker than a Super Duke in the 1/4. If you get left in the dust, the problem is probably the person you see in the mirror.
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I'm pretty sure he does,he's been at this stuff a long time but with all the knuckleheads out there trying to flash and fool with everybody's ECU's(I hear it's even all over Facebook now :hys:)I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to see anybody installing his stuff on a bike where somebody may(or may not)have messed a fueling map up and then blame his exhaust system when the bike runs like shit.
His stuff is way overpriced anyway. :eek:
I never drank the Brock Kool-Aid,I always use Akrapovic exhausts. The quality is top notch,they produce some of the best midrange/top end for a street pipe and not that it matters,but many of the bike manufacturers use Akrapovic on their race bikes like Yamaha on their Moto GP bikes,Team Kawasaki on their Superbikes,Team Honda,etc. What does this have to do with a street bike pipe? Not much,but if billion dollar companies trust Akra quality you can too.
Besides,like you said Brock's prices are ridiculous. Who the hell pays $369 for a PCV? I bought mine brand new for $210 shipped with a baseline map installed. This is the main reason I wont buy most of his products,and definitely wont buy his pipe which is made by Hindle.
Bottom line is,it's your money buy what makes you happy. But there are other exhaust that are equal/and or better than Brocks/Hindle. Just do some research :tu:
Thanks, I hate Kool-Aid. I'm thinking Akra or Yoshi.
I'm out,good luck with whatever you eventually choose...IF you ever choose. :hys:
A PCV for $210 is the deal of the week for sure bro,I see them on Amazon for $280 up.
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dynojet-power-commander-v
www.motomummy.com is where I get all my stuff,they have really good blowouts every now&then. I got my Akrapovic full system for $900 shipped from them as well....
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Thanks turbo051k.
I received an email from Mr. Davidson telling me that my ECU was now a mess because of the flash. :hys:
He said it would need to be reflashed back to factory settings for one of his systems to work properly. :hys:
My Busa runs great since having the ECU Flashed.
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Oh, Lord..............I'm out. See ya 'round the campus, kid. :gu:
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I was told this...
If Brock's tunes are that on the edge that you can't run any more timing, you probably shouldn't get it. Even with the stock ecu, you'll still be using the same map once in gears 5-6.
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I'd have to go with Brocks also,love my Short Meg. :lol:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpg7nsIJBVQ
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I'd have to go with Brocks also,love my Short Meg. :lol:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpg7nsIJBVQ
Not a fan. :td:
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You do not know enough to even weigh in on a comment on Brock's shit. Your opinion is just that, your opinion...........you hear shit and puke it back up just like my dog eats the
cat puke and pukes that back up. Henceforth from this day, you will be known as Bad-Nasty-Smell. It fits. Now I am really outta here. :tool:
Tell me truthfully, how long have you been riding a Busa? I have had 4, two of which were turbocharged and there are a lot of folks on this site that will support that statement.
I owned and rode a 2001 Busa with a GT35R turbo that made 523 RWHP at 29 lbs of boost on 110 race gas. Same bike made 374 on low boost (16 lbs) on pump gas.
2nd turbo was a 2006 with 440 RWHP. And you offend me with all your inane gibberish as to what is a good and what is not a good exhaust system. You don't know shit, IMO.
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You do not know enough to even weigh in on a comment on Brock's shit. Your opinion is just that, your opinion...........you hear shit and puke it back up just like my dog eats the
cat puke and pukes that back up. Henceforth from this day, you will be known as Bad-Nasty-Smell. It fits. Now I am really outta here. :tool:
Tell me truthfully, how long have you been riding a Busa? I have had 4, two of which were turbocharged and there are a lot of folks on this site that will support that statement.
I owned and rode a 2001 Busa with a GT35R turbo that made 523 RWHP at 29 lbs of boost on 110 race gas. Same bike made 374 on low boost (16 lbs) on pump gas.
2nd turbo was a 2006 with 440 RWHP. And you offend me with all your inane gibberish as to what is a good and what is not a good exhaust system. You don't know shit, IMO.
You are all riled up just because I don't like the way it looks??!! LMAO !!!!
Stop bragging about how much money you've wasted and go change your depends !!
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Oh, my error, I thought we were talking "PERFORMANCE".........by all means, get the best lookin' exhaust out there.
BTW I have NO MONEY.......................................................'cept a small pension................................However, my wife is loaded. :wink:
OH SHIT, I'm sorry for "speaking down" to you...............I lost at poker today. :(
Twice a month Jose ALWAYS suckers me into a 50 buck game of "Omaha" and I get him down to his last few bucks and he springs back - messes with my mind and wallet.
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Oh, my error, I thought we were talking "PERFORMANCE".........by all means, get the best lookin' exhaust out there.
BTW I have NO MONEY.......................................................'cept a small pension................................However, my wife is loaded. :wink:
OH SHIT, I'm sorry for "speaking down" to you...............I lost at poker today. :(
I wish I had a Sugar Momma. :(
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"I hafta ask her nicely"............right time, right food, right wine for her, right atmosphere..................she has yet to deny me any reasonable request. Then again, when I had the bucks, I would always shed her more than she asked for. She deserved it, puttin' up with all my hippie/biker ways. :)
Hell, man............in 1979 when I met her, I had a 79 Harley Low Rider stroked to 91" from 80". Carried a snubby 6-shot Smith in my left boot. Thought I was a badass. She seemed to like that a bit. Incredible sex. :thumb:
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"I hafta ask her nicely"............right time, right food, right wine for her, right atmosphere..................she has yet to deny me any reasonable request. Then again, when I had the bucks, I would always shed her more than she asked for. She deserved it, puttin' up with all my hippie/biker ways. :)
Hell, man............in 1979 when I met her, I had a 79 Harley Low Rider stroked to 91" from 80". Carried a snubby 6-shot Smith in my left boot. Thought I was a badass. She seemed to like that a bit. Incredible sex. :thumb:
Nice. I apologize for "giving you the business." Ride safe my friend.
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"I hafta ask her nicely"............right time, right food, right wine for her, right atmosphere..................she has yet to deny me any reasonable request. Then again, when I had the bucks, I would always shed her more than she asked for. She deserved it, puttin' up with all my hippie/biker ways. :)
Hell, man............in 1979 when I met her, I had a 79 Harley Low Rider stroked to 91" from 80". Carried a snubby 6-shot Smith in my left boot. Thought I was a badass. She seemed to like that a bit. Incredible sex. :thumb:
You must be a lefty,I always had a Charter Arms Bulldog .44 Special(bobbed hammer and barrel shortened to just over an inch with some Pachmayrs)in my right boot. :lol:
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"I hafta ask her nicely"............right time, right food, right wine for her, right atmosphere..................she has yet to deny me any reasonable request. Then again, when I had the bucks, I would always shed her more than she asked for. She deserved it, puttin' up with all my hippie/biker ways. :)
Hell, man............in 1979 when I met her, I had a 79 Harley Low Rider stroked to 91" from 80". Carried a snubby 6-shot Smith in my left boot. Thought I was a badass. She seemed to like that a bit. Incredible sex. :thumb:
You must be a lefty,I always had a Charter Arms Bulldog .44 Special(bobbed hammer and barrel shortened to just over an inch with some Pachmayrs)in my right boot. :lol:
:hys: Yes, I am left-handed. I wuz a "concrete cowboy". 9-5 in DC on Capitol Hill Mon-Fri, and "biker/hippie" on Sat-Sun. :wink:
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Drop 1 tooth on the front sprocket. It will wake up your bike BIG time and is dirt cheap!!
Busa's are so over geared from the factory that 1 down in the front makes a huge difference without the bike actually being geared too low in any way shape or form.
Good highway cruising and top speed too! 8)
You are 100% Correct SEJ !! She pulls way harder in every gear, and just "feels right" now.
Thanks for the advice.
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Drop 1 tooth on the front sprocket. It will wake up your bike BIG time and is dirt cheap!!
Busa's are so over geared from the factory that 1 down in the front makes a huge difference without the bike actually being geared too low in any way shape or form.
Good highway cruising and top speed too! 8)
You are 100% Correct SEJ !! She pulls way harder in every gear, and just "feels right" now.
Thanks for the advice.
:thumb: My pleasure...now take it easy and get some seat time on the beast. And when you beat your son's Duke, do it by the smallest of margins and don't embarrass him...after all he did the work for you. :wink:
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Well guys, I have totally fallen in love with my Busa. The mods have made her perfect for me.
I am still a little undecided about a full exhaust system, but maybe over the winter I will do it.
Be Safe & Have a Great Independence Day !!!!