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Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: THEMOTORHEAD on February 16, 2005, 06:55:19 PM
OK
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Post by: THEM0T0RHEAD on February 16, 2005, 07:15:12 PM
Hi Daddy...

:lmao:  :lmao:
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Post by: skid vicious on February 16, 2005, 07:16:57 PM
is he FK's "mini me"?
whats he done?
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Post by: 00Busa on February 16, 2005, 07:21:01 PM
He don't have to go home, but he needs to get the HELL out of here ! :lol:
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Post by: oilheadron on February 16, 2005, 07:29:53 PM
Get the lying little punk out of here.
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Post by: 02SE on February 16, 2005, 07:30:29 PM
There is only one mini me, and he looks just like me.
<----------- :D
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Post by: oilheadron on February 16, 2005, 07:40:31 PM
By the  way, if HALF of what this dopey kid says about his bike is true, he's got a 1270 in it. I've been outrunning stock-motored '12s set up just like his (and run by guys with MUCH more riding experience than he's likely to ever live to get) since just about the time he got his driver's license. The kid is a fucking liar IMO. Can't prove it yet, but gnd111 is about to.  :twisted:
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Post by: O2SE on February 16, 2005, 07:42:11 PM
Quote from: 02SE
There is only one mini me, and he looks just like me.
<----------- :D


Papa???
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Post by: dnolder on February 16, 2005, 07:46:43 PM
Motorhead we all enough bullshit in our lives, dump his ass off this board!!
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Post by: THEM0T0RHEAD on February 16, 2005, 07:49:47 PM
Quote from: dnolder
Motorhead we all enough bullshit in our lives, dump his ass off this board!!


YA TALKIN TO ME OR DAD
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: oilheadron on February 16, 2005, 07:56:21 PM
Sorry FK, you lose. Like usual.

NOBODY around here with a stock-motored, UNSPRAYED '12 will mess with me anymore. They know better.
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Post by: oilheadron on February 16, 2005, 07:58:04 PM
FK, by the way, you want about a half dozen email addresses to confirm that a stock Busa stomps on pitiful '12 ass all day long?? I'll be glad to provide them.
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Post by: oilheadron on February 16, 2005, 08:00:40 PM
Another by the way: if it comes right down to it, my pals over at M4/Emgo will be glad to verify the true status of any "stock-motored" '12 that wants to play.

Phantom or BikeMech, are you listening?? If you're spraying, or have done any motor work, they'll find it.
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Post by: Ludicrous Speed on February 16, 2005, 08:45:58 PM
Funny how this is the ONLY post he hasn't been in stirring shit......
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Post by: nemsis on February 16, 2005, 08:53:34 PM
keep him he's funny
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Post by: BikeMech on February 16, 2005, 08:59:04 PM
Quote from: oilheadron
Another by the way: if it comes right down to it, my pals over at M4/Emgo will be glad to verify the true status of any "stock-motored" '12 that wants to play.

Phantom or BikeMech, are you listening?? If you're spraying, or have done any motor work, they'll find it.


 Oh I'm here for sure..... does this mean we are gonna race? If so just name the place and time.  Race first then your boys at emgo can do as they wish with the bike....just as long as they put back everything they pull off. Are we gonna check your bike out too?  say when assclownron....
 edit.....not trying to offend or agitate anyone...i'm just a man who happens to own a stock motored 12 ......and a real big motored busa :D
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Post by: oilheadron on February 16, 2005, 09:02:42 PM
This weekend?? Are you saying that you've got a factory stock motor, and you aren't spraying?? If so, you're going down.

And we check the bikes FIRST, you're not going to run away after the race without being checked.
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Post by: BikeMech on February 16, 2005, 09:12:54 PM
Quote from: oilheadron
This weekend?? Are you saying that you've got a factory stock motor, and you aren't spraying?? If so, you're going down.

And we check the bikes FIRST, you're not going to run away after the race without being checked.

 run away? If i run away what would that say about me and my bike....but thats fine, we can check the bikes first.....location please....
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Post by: oilheadron on February 16, 2005, 09:19:09 PM
Sent you a PM. This is a streetbike we're talking about here, right?? Something you could actually ride to the race??

You still haven't answered my question: Is the bike built or sprayed? Edit: in other words, for the Kawa cheater in your soul, has the motor EVER been opened for any reason whatsoever?? Mine hasn't. Has it ever been sprayed?? Mine hasn't.
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Post by: oilheadron on February 16, 2005, 09:41:52 PM
I've got a feeling that BikeMech has a little too much character to lie about his bike (unlike FK for example). I could be wrong though, Kawa proponents are notorious cheaters.

BikeMech?? Comments??
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Post by: BikeMech on February 16, 2005, 09:49:52 PM
just forget it .... this is a dead horse for sure...for the 5th time...stock "motored" 02 zx12, no spray....lets just let it go man...
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Post by: oilheadron on February 16, 2005, 09:51:09 PM
Stock "motored"? What does that mean? If it means what an honest Suzuki owner means when he says that, you're on.
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Post by: BikeMech on February 16, 2005, 09:53:30 PM
sorry for jacking this thread.....btw, i voted to run phantom12's stinky ass outta here...j/k
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Post by: Twisted on February 16, 2005, 09:57:47 PM
phantom is to bike talk as antichrist is to WYOM... blowhards  :duh:
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Post by: oilheadron on February 16, 2005, 10:18:12 PM
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sorry for jacking this thread.....btw, i voted to run phantom12's stinky ass outta here...j/k


Good on 'ya. I suspected you had more mettle than that punk.  :thumb:
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Post by: gm1300 on February 16, 2005, 10:28:54 PM
i think he should be banned from the internet altogether
banning him from this site is a great start but he is also on a half dozen other sites with his " 12's are just as good as busa's" crusade

every time i log onto a motorcycle site i see him trying to convince someone of how great the 12's are   :roll:

first he needs to convince himself
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Post by: Kirk on February 16, 2005, 10:56:08 PM
The thing about FK is that because he's in England. He's a subject, not a citizen- his opinion means nothing. Makes him much easier to ignore.
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Post by: TufBusa on February 16, 2005, 11:35:20 PM
If Phantom takes "R1GSXRKILLER" with him, I'm voting to give them both the boot! They are both peas of the same pod!
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Post by: xpigrider on February 16, 2005, 11:37:21 PM
Yes by all means, kick him off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: suzuki4life on February 16, 2005, 11:41:50 PM
I personally like FK and the phantom guy. they entertain me.


Now Fk and Phantom:


DANCE FOR ME MY BITCHES!! 8)
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Post by: Phantom13 on February 17, 2005, 12:04:30 AM
Wow, I'm probably the only one here who hasn't thrown out personal insults, cursed someone out, or said something that couldn't be backed up with some sort of factual proof....AND I'M THE ONE IN QUESTION OF BEING BANNED?!?!!

LMFAO!

So how does this work? Get rid of the guy who's not only one of the few that have been behaving like a rational adult on these debates....but also the only guy who doesn't share you views? So because I like to debate issues with factual information without the use of personal attacks or foul language....I'm unwelcome here? Man, talk about Nazi's! I thought these forums were for discussions and debates...seeing how others view certain issues and conversating about them regardless if you agree or not. What good is a forum if everyone has the same opinion? At that point it's not a forum, it's a place you all go to pat each other on the back and basque in self proclaimed glory. While anyone who doesn't follow suit is vicously attacked and bombarded by all sides and multiple people with insults and vulgar language.... Last time I was confronted with a situation like this.....was in elementary school. Seriously guys, grow up. It's a sad day when a 21 year old "kid" makes you all seem like 12 year olds by behavior comparison.

Honestly, what rational mature adult creates a thread trying to rally up support to ban a member...just because he doesn't agree with what you think or say? GROW UP DENNIS!! If you were so confident in your views then you would welcome someone like me...it would only be in your benifit if you were indeed correct in your opinions. But no, instead you push to get rid of me. Why? I'll tell you why...I make sense!!! It must burn your balls to see me rip apart your "boyz" and prove them to be idiots and delusionally narrow minded. I've been doing more educating on this site in the past week than I've done in my entire life on any other forum....why is that?

RON- I don't have a 1270....and yes I'm making 177rwhp/98rwt SAE without the stacks installed yet....STOCK UNTOUCHED MOTOR...Hell, the bike should pull 180rwhp if I added timing, I'm currently running stock timing! With the stacks and some timing, I'm looking at low 180's...stock untouched motor. Maybe a little cam degreeing could bring me up to 185rwhp? All this without having to sacrifice the ram air efficiency by modifying the airbox like all you Busa guys do. That airbox mod hurts air velocity at high speed hence not allowing the airbox to pressurize and generate power.

I'll be MORE than happy to let any one of your emgo buddies inspect my motor. Take apart the head, measure the pistons, do your worst...you won't find anything touched!! NOT EVEN CAM DEGREEING HAS BEEN DONE!

There will be NO bottle on the bike when we do these runs...you can tear apart all the plastics if you'd like....check my pockets if you'll feel better. LOL!

Just let me know when you're available Ron....Gainesville is waiting for us all! Bring your 100% untouched motor and we'll see if it's all that you say it is.. Let's see how you do in 190+mph land....

You say nobody around "here" without spray will run you....well, you live out there in Yeehaw Alabama, I don't expect there to be much competition...Come down and meet some south florida boys...we run the 9/10ths EVERY SINGLE SUNDAY FOR HOURS AT A TIME!!!! We've got guys using LM1 realtime A/F dataloggers and tuning with lap tops on the fly....a handful of Turbo Busa's and 1k's....another handful of built motor Busa's and 1000's.....Nitrous 12's....piped 12's and Busa's...hell we had a 525rwhp Velocity Turbo ZX12R out there last week......About 25 worked bikes in total every sunday testing and tuning and racing week after week after week.......Believe me, you don't find this level of competition in the stix of AL. Hell, I once thought my bike was tuned up well....took it out there for some testing, BOY WAS I IN SHOCK! Went from running 174mph in the 9/10th's up to 190's....with the SAME MODS!!! Just tuning and practice...

So before you go spouting off at the mouth about how nobody will race you without spray....remember that a modified bike isn't fast...A PROPERLY TUNED modified bike is fast. I know guys with piped Busa's and a 60 shot that I've obliterated on my 12R...ON MOTOR!!!! You can have your bike tuned perfect on the dyno...that don't mean DICK in the real world. Pretty dyno #'s usually make for weak runners in real world conditions. Keep that in mind when you look at your dynosheets....I also hope you didn't do the airbox mod....if you did....YOU'RE DONE FOR IN THE 9/10th's.

SEE YOU IN G-VILLE!

P.S.- When have I ever spoke even ONE lie? If you think I'm lying...bring your ass to g-ville. Hell, I doubt gnd111 will show up.....let alone you.

LUDACRIS SPEED- The reason I wasn't here earlier to "stir up shit" was because unlike you bunch....I was actually riding!!!!
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Post by: turbotoys on February 17, 2005, 12:28:37 AM
525rwhp Velocity Turbo ZX12R out there last week
i whould like to see the dyno sheet on this one
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Post by: Phantom13 on February 17, 2005, 12:29:27 AM
Just call up Barry and ask....
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Post by: oilheadron on February 17, 2005, 12:33:30 AM
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Pretty dyno #'s usually make for weak runners in real world conditions. Keep that in mind when you look at your dynosheets....I also hope you didn't do the airbox mod....if you did....YOU'RE DONE FOR IN THE 9/10th's.


No shit you dumbass!! You're the one doing ALL the talking about '12s and their peak dyno numbers!! We've all been trying to explain this to you for about what, a month now??

READ CAREFULLY AGAIN: I stomped TWO 178 hp '12s in the same day, both were ridden by experienced dragracers who weigh quite a bit less than you do. YOU WON'T WIN UNLESS YOU ARE CHEATING.

After gnd111 embarasses you I'll do the same.
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Post by: turbotoys on February 17, 2005, 12:36:13 AM
tell barry to post it
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Post by: Blue Streak on February 17, 2005, 12:40:30 AM
Quote from: Phantom12
Wow, I'm probably the only one here who hasn't thrown out personal insults, cursed someone out, or said something that couldn't be backed up with some sort of factual proof....AND I'M THE ONE IN QUESTION OF BEING BANNED?!?!!


I will ask this once again just like a did on the last damn thread. Where in the hell is all of the "FACTUAL PROOF" that you keep talking about? You keep running off at the mouth about FACTS and PROOF yet you have not shown anything to back up what you say.  :roll:
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Post by: COLDSTONE1300 on February 17, 2005, 12:55:34 AM
Have to admit this has all made things more interesting around here as of late. Anything that can help the winter go by quicker. Not sure about banning though. It's the same song FK's been singing and no ones banned him......yet.  :shock:
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Post by: oilheadron on February 17, 2005, 12:58:22 AM
True. Thank goodness Phantom is over here where we can get to him. He's not hiding on the other side of the ocean like FearfilledKawasucki is.
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Post by: Phantom13 on February 17, 2005, 01:06:57 AM
You talk big..but you won't show up at G-Ville, Ron.


I don't care if you "Stomped" two 178rwhp 12R's.....That proves nothing. Come stomp me....I dare you.
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Post by: Blue Streak on February 17, 2005, 01:26:43 AM
Quote from: Blue Streak
Quote from: Phantom12
Wow, I'm probably the only one here who hasn't thrown out personal insults, cursed someone out, or said something that couldn't be backed up with some sort of factual proof....AND I'M THE ONE IN QUESTION OF BEING BANNED?!?!!


I will ask this once again just like a did on the last damn thread. Where in the hell is all of the "FACTUAL PROOF" that you keep talking about? You keep running off at the mouth about FACTS and PROOF yet you have not shown anything to back up what you say.  :roll:


I guess when your called out on all the shit you talk then you choose to ignore the person. I guess it is hard to prove something that isn't true.  :wink:
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Post by: Busa@11K on February 17, 2005, 01:57:51 AM
Quote from: Kirk
The thing about FK is that because he's in England. He's a subject, not a citizen- his opinion means nothing. Makes him much easier to ignore.


Ya, but he's also a Kawasaki owner that's always flipping shit ... so what's the difference?

IMO, I don't care because I can filter out the bullshit.  Besides, where would you guys get your outlet to put down Kawasaki ... they come here which means you don't have to go out looking for it on the Kaw boards. :lol2:

Besides, I’ll bet most of us have owned a Kaw or two over the years.

Let 'em all stay ... it's "educational".
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Post by: HOS on February 17, 2005, 06:32:45 AM
I want FK to stay.

Not just because he lives here, but because he has such a fine command of abusive and disgusting use of the ENGLISH language.

His repertoire of insults is one, if not the very best I have ever witnessed in my entire 45 years of taking and recieving the piss.

 :D
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Post by: WWJD on February 17, 2005, 07:16:08 AM
Phantom, do you own and ride a Hayabusa?
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Post by: GWB on February 17, 2005, 07:17:33 AM
Quote from: WWJD
Phantom, do you own and ride a Hayabusa?


You think Jesus would ask him if he owned a Hayabusa?
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Post by: Rodomontade on February 17, 2005, 07:52:14 AM
Dennis.... Just ban him.
We have all heard enough from him and most of us support your call on this one.
If you can, block his IP address so he can't just log in under another user name.
Most of us are very tired of this B.S.
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Post by: Randor-B on February 17, 2005, 08:13:51 AM
Quote from: Fearsome
Amazing.

Just because he has different views you consider banning him.

FK


Not true, everyone wants him (and you) banned because you're assholes!!! If you guys dropped the attitude, a civil conversation would ensue. EVERY SINGLE thread that you guys jump on, it's YOU that starts flinging shit. Not every busa owner has this 'almighty' ego, like you guys do. If you want to convert the busa masses.....do it on the street, not a messege board!!!
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Post by: 02BluBlkBusa on February 17, 2005, 08:25:10 AM
1.  Opinions are like assholes, we all have one.  Owners of the 12R will like their bike, over the Busa.  So what?  That is their opinion.  
2.  A race is not won by the bike alone, it has more to do with the rider.    
3.  Bottom line up front.  Only a race will tell the truth.  So make arrangements for the race.  But find a neutral location.
4.  I think banning someone because you don't like the individual or you don't agree with what is said, is a bit much.  If the individual broke the rules that he was aware of, then that's a different issue.  Otherwise, if you don't like what is being posted by someone, then don't read it.  
5.  That's my opinion.
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Post by: Kirk on February 17, 2005, 08:57:12 AM
Don't flatter yourself, FK. You're not that significant. You're more like one of those little ankle-high poodles that stands there and yips a lot.
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Post by: Mr. Demeanor on February 17, 2005, 09:00:47 AM
I come here to read about Busa's. I now have to wade through his BS in nearly every decent thread. He is as entertaining as a mosquito. Either set up the board so a user can chose to block posts by certain members or humanly euthanize him. You had an election and the people have voted  :wink:
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Post by: mokaw on February 17, 2005, 09:32:02 AM
Right on! 8)
Quote from: 02BluBlkBusa
1.  Opinions are like assholes, we all have one.  Owners of the 12R will like their bike, over the Busa.  So what?  That is their opinion.  
2.  A race is not won by the bike alone, it has more to do with the rider.    
3.  Bottom line up front.  Only a race will tell the truth.  So make arrangements for the race.  But find a neutral location.
4.  I think banning someone because you don't like the individual or you don't agree with what is said, is a bit much.  If the individual broke the rules that he was aware of, then that's a different issue.  Otherwise, if you don't like what is being posted by someone, then don't read it.  
5.  That's my opinion.
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Post by: Phantom13 on February 17, 2005, 10:40:38 AM
Banning me will only prove one thing........I was right in everything I said and that intimidates you all.

I know it's hard to swallow having a 12r guy call you out on your bullshit all the time...but if you didn't spew so much of it, there would be nothing for me to say, would there? No.

Ok, you guys don't like to hear that the Busa isn't as fast as you think it is in comparison to the rest of the world. Big deal...GROW UP! If you don't like what I'm saying....but on the blinders! God knows you're all great at that....

Ok, you guys don't like me commenting on how unimpressive the new 05 GSX-R1000 is...well look at it his way, the only accomplishment it's done is MATCH the ZX-10R in power and weight, yet still doesn't have all the trick hardware that the Ninja carries. So forgive me along with the rest of the Kaw camp for not dropping our jaws....we've been seeing this type of performance since last year...

Ok, you guys don't like me making challenges to race. Well I just assumed that was the most honorable way to settle things....it seems you all (RON ESPECIALLY) would much rather hide safely behind your screens. The ones who are willing are guys with more mods and 50lbs less weight.


It seems that anyone who doesn't lick the balls of a Suzuki product and claim it to be above all others in ritualistic worship.......isn't welcome. Playing devil's advocate is just NOT tolerated it would seem....nobody can take a little critizism....nobody likes to play by their own rules. It's funny, you all can post about how superior the Hayabusa is to the 12R...but a 12R guy can't defend the worth of that bike by simply stating they're more or less equals with no significant difference in performance out the box? Wow...talk about hypocricy!!

If you notice...I didn't START any of these threads..I don't go out of my way to bother you guys. I see a post where someone is bluring reality, not telling the whole truth, giving credit and glory to the bike when it's the rider that deserved it, or neglecting to mention important details that might take away from the "wow" factor of their story.


Damn, you'd think that you'd want some sort of objective view on issues...not only to help prove or disprove your own view....but for sheer entertainment value. What worth is a view if nobody is allowed to challenge it? This is the reason for trials...to validate your convictions against someone. Without an objective argument, your view, belief, word is only as good as the person it's coming from....It's at this point where there are no checks and balances for the views that are indeed bullshit.

Don't think of me as a troll, think of me as a Bullshit filter. If your claims pass through me via discussion of the issue...then by all means, party on. But if I call you on your bullshit and it doesn't fly....THATS YOUR BAD NOT MINE!!! STOP PUTTING THE BLAME ON ME!
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Post by: Ahab on February 17, 2005, 10:48:24 AM
Quote from: 02BluBlkBusa
1.  Opinions are like assholes, we all have one.  Owners of the 12R will like their bike, over the Busa.  So what?  That is their opinion.  
2.  A race is not won by the bike alone, it has more to do with the rider.    


Yeah, Honda learned that with Rossi  :lol:  :oops:
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Post by: CID on February 17, 2005, 10:55:36 AM
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...but for sheer entertainment value...... Don't think of me as a troll, think of me as a Bullshit filter. ....



COLON12r   (gotcha!) :mrgreen:
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Post by: Phantom13 on February 17, 2005, 11:19:43 AM
LMFAO!!!

Cute.... I got to admit, that was good. =)
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Post by: CID on February 17, 2005, 11:23:52 AM
Quote from: Phantom12
LMFAO!!!

Cute.... I got to admit, that was good. =)



I'm here all week, thanks for coming....Don't forget to tip the bartender!  :lol:
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Post by: Phantom13 on February 17, 2005, 11:38:30 AM
I would, but I'm too busy giving my $0.02 everywhere else...
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Post by: SUTPHEN77 on February 17, 2005, 11:53:37 AM
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Post by: SUTPHEN77 on February 17, 2005, 11:53:57 AM
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Post by: Busa@11K on February 17, 2005, 11:57:33 AM
Quote from: Phantom12

It's funny, you all can post about how superior the Hayabusa is to the 12R...but a 12R guy can't defend the worth of that bike by simply stating they're more or less equals with no significant difference in performance out the box? Wow...talk about hypocricy!!


Actually, there are probably quite a few people (at least the ones who know what's going on) who know that the Busa and ZX-12 are so close that a rider will make the difference.  In fact, many people have or do own BOTH bikes.

It's all become hair splitting! ... and something to cry and moan about ... including you an FK.  How come you guys don't have the same perspective ... that they are so close that it's not worth arguing about?!?

The Busa vs. ZX-12 debate is worse than any damn political thread in WOYM Forum! :lol2:  :roll:
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Post by: WWJD on February 17, 2005, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: Phantom12
Ok, you guys don't like to hear that the Busa isn't as fast as you think it is in comparison to the rest of the world. Big deal...GROW UP!


Dude, where do you find the time to post all those words??  :D  in Comparison to the rest of the world, the Busa has been top rung forever.  Now the liter bikes have FINALLY caught up.  This is not amazing news, it's simply progress.  why the big deal?  so you found a couple busa riders who brag.  hmmmmm I find MOST cyclists like to brag.  even the 600 guys.  who cares?  This is a  H A Y A B U S A   forum where owners can trade tips, info, mods etc and, sure, brag if we feel like it.     why keep pressuring other bikes?  we ride Hayabusa's.    Why dont you simply come in join in the conversations like a civilized being?  You seem to be technically knowlegable about a good number of.

When I bought my busa [my first suzuki, replaced my kaw] I sat on both busa and 12 side by side.
- I like MY fit on the busa better
- I PERSONALLY enjoyed the body style better
- I could get the busa cheaper
- I already had a Kawasaki
- Suzuki had many race wins = years of sucessful technology
Therefore, I went SUZ.  The 12R was a fine bike and I'd admired it for years, and tehre is nothing wrong with that bike in MY eyes - just anohter bike.   But being a busa owner doesn't negate common curtesy while I'm surfing zx-12r.org.  And I certainly wouldn't tell them their PERSONAL PREFERENCE is wrong?

I haven't been in here for a while but coming back and seeing teim wasting pissing contests is disappointing.  I, like many otheres here, am tired of starting to read a post and having it end up teh same "You'r bike isn't ALL THAT..."   yet, it still is to me.

I voted you off the island too, but if you could tone down and join in instead of simply mud sling, I wish you'd stay and offer your wizdom.


edit:  I had time to post all these words on lunch break   :)
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: R1GSXRKILLER on February 17, 2005, 12:26:03 PM
Quote from: Randor-B
Quote from: Fearsome
Amazing.

Just because he has different views you consider banning him.

FK


Not true, everyone wants him (and you) banned because you're assholes!!! If you guys dropped the attitude, a civil conversation would ensue. EVERY SINGLE thread that you guys jump on, it's YOU that starts flinging shit. Not every busa owner has this 'almighty' ego, like you guys do. If you want to convert the busa masses.....do it on the street, not a messege board!!!


lol...paaaaalease  :?

Whats matter "tuffy" getting to hot in the kitchen waaaa,waaaaaaaaaaaaa,waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :oops: .... 8)
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Busa@11K on February 17, 2005, 12:30:42 PM
Quote from: WWJD
why the big deal?  so you found a couple busa riders who brag.  hmmmmm I find MOST cyclists like to brag.  


Ya, just look at FK ... he comes here specifically to brag how he thinks ZX-12s are superior and taunt the Busa board.  So what's the difference?! :duh: ... he gets what he deserves ... arguments and return bad mouthing.  But personally, I just sit back and laugh at the boneheads arguing about hair splitting.  And even worst when it comes to the pissing matches when people start talking apples and oranges like with different mods levels (turbo vs. NA) and the infamous "car vs. hot cage" debates ... morons!  :roll:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: WWJD on February 17, 2005, 12:36:43 PM
hahahaha so true
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Phantom13 on February 17, 2005, 01:55:30 PM
Again, I agree with you Busa@11k. It is Hairsplitting....that's the only point I was making. I'm not sitting here yapping off about how superior the 12R is....in reality, IT ISN'T! My entire argument is that they are both just about equals. Busa gets it by an insignificant hair in a straight line via aero's and cc's stock vs stock...the Ninja gets it around a track via brakes and handling stock vs stock.

Both advantages are insignificant in the real world with amatuer riders. It comes down to which bike suits YOU best. That is the superior bike...

Nobody can universally say one is better than the other..they are too damn close in performance...they both trade this for that in every aspect of performance...it comes down to what you intend on using the bike for that makes the difference.

I'm not here trying to say the Busa sucks or that the Ninja is better, I'm trying to dispell the belief that the Busa is without equal and owns the 12R. That is just not so. I understand many if not most of you agree with me on this....to you I do not direct my posts towards. It's the ones that have that Hayabusa Hyped Ego that I'm addressing...the guys that think they are juggernauts of the road because guiness told them so or because sportrider declared it faster by 0.04seconds in the 1/4 mile.

FK and I share similar passion for our bikes and we are not bashful about sharing our experiences with them. I'm not as extreme as FK is (i'm not fond of cursing and such) but for some reason I'm the one in contention for bannishment? Is that because you can't prove me wrong and I make sense? Is it because I won't allow a debate to turn into a pissing match in order to let you escape the issue and use your infamous bullying methods?


WWJD- I try to be civilized, it's usually you guys that start the insults and namecalling and bashing...NOT ME! I'm constantly trying to put out the fire and stick to the issues because all I seem to get are flaming responses with little to NO reply to my point...just personal attacks and bias unfounded opinionated statements.

You need to check out your boyz like Todd and abusu1300 and twisted and all the other guys that would rather fling mudd than be civilized.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: abusu1300 on February 17, 2005, 02:05:44 PM
i dont care what you ride its never been a issue with me , just how you go about yourself trying to "prove "everyone wrong ..
and yes you do start shit about how great the 12 is over the Busa with a pipe and a few mods , same shit you have been talkin for a year now .. i have a problem with YOU and YOU ONLY ... now keep my name out your mouth unless you have something proper to say !!
and it does seem your starting to learn a little repsect you cocky fucker ...
quit trying to defend all the time and sit back and shut up for once you might make a few BIKER FRIENDS !!!!
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Phantom13 on February 17, 2005, 02:58:23 PM
Abusu1300- You don't even have a Busa....who the hell are you to trying to fool? I've been calling you out for a year now to provide some sort of undenyable proof that you own a busa....you keep avoiding it!!

I go on and on about a piped 12r being faster than a piped busa just as much as I go on and on about how stock vs stock the busa is a hair faster.

This is more than I can say for most of you guys that ONLY talk about the stock to stock comparsion or the Turbo vs Turbo comparisons. I give the Busa it's credit when it's due....can most of you say the same about the 12R? I think not.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: abusu1300 on February 17, 2005, 03:08:01 PM
what do i need to prove to a idiot like you ... do you have a bike ???  i have never seen you or your bike , so you must not have one you poser .. see how easy it is ..... would it make you feel better to see a pic of my Busa ??? a pic of my Busa still dosnt make you NOT a lame ass idiot !!! and for the record i dont know how to post pics ... hay , heres a idea ; why dont you do a write up on how to post pics ... that should keep your ass busy ...
Title: 12r
Post by: 1bondoman on February 17, 2005, 03:11:52 PM
Uh,my 12 is pretty fast... :lol: Waxed a lot of Busas too! But I will say,it comes down to the rider.Why,my 12 is even faster than Ole Phantoms 12!
Title: 12s
Post by: 1bondoman on February 17, 2005, 03:13:21 PM
Let him stay,what would you guys talk about if he wasnt here!!!
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: abusu1300 on February 17, 2005, 03:14:49 PM
exacty its snowed here a little while ago .. gotta keep the entertainment level up !!!
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Phantom13 on February 17, 2005, 03:40:10 PM
abusu1300- You've been posting on forums for how long now and you don't know how to post pictures? BULLSHIT! As for you not wanting to prove it...that's because you can't. I can prove I own my bike...I'll take a dozen pics for you in any sort of pose you'd like, I've got quite a few members on a few forums that I've met personally with my bike that can vouch for me.

Face it...you're a wannabe. If you had a busa....you'd LOVE to prove me wrong, you'd love nothing more.

If you REALLY don't know how to post a picture....why not just send it to my email? Mruiz1120@aol.com
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Busa@11K on February 17, 2005, 04:01:40 PM
Quote from: abusu1300
... heres a idea ; why dont you do a write up on how to post pics ... that should keep your ass busy ...


It's easy.  Just paste the server link of the photo, highlight the link and then hit the "Img" button above the box where you type in your post.  :D

Jeeeezzz ... come on guys!  Now it's down to proving who owns what kind of bike.  This shit is getting ridiculous!! :duh:  This is getting into FK territory.  :roll:  FK = Freakin' Kooky!
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Kuhrazy on February 17, 2005, 04:06:10 PM
you mean you have to OWN a busa to post here..

DAMMIT!!!!

I think I should just end my life now..

ANYWAYS...

most people that store their bikes.. don't feel like takin pics..
so abusa... dont show him shit...
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: abusu1300 on February 17, 2005, 04:17:56 PM
Kuhrazy .... its all good , just sent PHANTOM a ass shot of the Busa ...

PHANTOM : so what you gotta say about my non Busa ridin poser ass now ??? you do know what ABUSU means on the plate right ???
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: gotabusa on February 17, 2005, 05:37:12 PM
IMHO, although he takes away from the enjoyment of the site by constantly interupting the flow of useful and/or interesting threads, he hasn't done enough to be booted. If anything he is a constant reminder to all of us how pathetic it is to go through life constantly justifying - to anyone and everyone - what we have or what we do.  I just don't understand why its so difficult for him to understand or accept the fact that this is a site that is dedicated to Hayabusas and Hayabusa enthusiasts.

In general, people who pester or badger do not just do it in one area of their lives. I strongly suspect that this guy constantly badgers people who have what they feel is a better house, a better car/truck, a better (whatever)? The difference is that they can close the door, turn and walk away, or avoid social gatherings where he might be. We cannot. Sure we can ignore him, or skip over his comments, but we can't ultimately shut him out like we can in the real world. He knows that...and thrives on it...pathetic.

How about other options, Dennis, like...

- Maybe someone could write a utility that we could add to our profile that omits from our view any/all posts by a particular member?

- Temporary or permanent restrictions from posting in other people's threads
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Steve A on February 17, 2005, 07:44:37 PM
I think "Mr. Lucky" could/does give FK a run for his money in the insult category.

Most of the people here have probably never experienced Lucky unless they hang around LABusas also.

James does have some novel insults that you rarely/never hear over here.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: 02SE on February 17, 2005, 08:10:50 PM
Quote from: Steve A
I think "Mr. Lucky" could/does give FK a run for his money in the insult category.

Most of the people here have probably never experienced Lucky unless they hang around LABusas also.

James does have some novel insults that you rarely/never hear over here.


Yeah, he is fairly witty. But what does that have to do with this thread?.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: svilla on February 17, 2005, 11:45:41 PM
I have never read anything constructive from Phantom12. In fact most of his posts are shit talking and when he try's to give advice it's miss-leading. So I voted to give him the boot.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: SLEEPERBUSA on February 18, 2005, 12:13:00 AM
We gotta have somebody to pick on.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Iron-man on February 18, 2005, 02:48:36 AM
phantom12:

I've  been away from this forum for awhile,

and come back to listen to this garbage.

why the hell do you feel the need to attack everyone who has a difference of opinion than you?

you look like an idiot with your complaining and taking shots and anyone and everyone you can thread after thread after thread.....

Iron
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Randor-B on February 18, 2005, 08:04:51 AM
Quote from: R1GSXRKILLER
Quote from: Randor-B
Quote from: Fearsome
Amazing.

Just because he has different views you consider banning him.

FK


Not true, everyone wants him (and you) banned because you're assholes!!! If you guys dropped the attitude, a civil conversation would ensue. EVERY SINGLE thread that you guys jump on, it's YOU that starts flinging shit. Not every busa owner has this 'almighty' ego, like you guys do. If you want to convert the busa masses.....do it on the street, not a messege board!!!


lol...paaaaalease  :?

Whats matter "tuffy" getting to hot in the kitchen waaaa,waaaaaaaaaaaaa,waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :oops: .... 8)


I think it's time to lay off the meds again........
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Phantom13 on February 18, 2005, 08:24:10 AM
Yeah, I don't do anything but attack and spew out nonsense...not one factual word comes out of my posts...just a bunch of sloppy opinions.



Give me a break guys, Just about every one of my posts are based on factual information and on a mature level. I don't call names, curse, or personally bully on anyone here....can you all say the same? No.

For the most part...all I get in response to my posts (which are for the most part filled with logic and facts) is, "You idiot" or "Stupid Kid" or "Moron" or "I stomp every 12!!" or "You're on #2" or some other character reveiling comment along those lines.

I don't care if you hate me or love me......but for the sake of reputation, try and act like an adult. I'm probably the youngest guy here yet I'm one of the only guys that hasn't stooped down to such a childish level.

Seriously, you curse me out, call me names, patronize me, and use bullying tactics......yet I'm the one that's in question of getting banned?


Wow................
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Iron-man on February 18, 2005, 09:38:39 AM
Quote from: Fearsome
Quote from: Iron-man
phantom12:

I've  been away from this forum for awhile,

and come back to listen to this garbage.

why the hell do you feel the need to attack everyone who has a difference of opinion than you?

you look like an idiot with your complaining and taking shots and anyone and everyone you can thread after thread after thread.....

Iron



Hey Dildo man?

If you actually read the threads properly (can you read without your babysitter assisting?) you will see it is he who is being attacked.

Why?

Because he is questioning the "wisdom" (sicker snicker) of Busa owners on this board. Their fragile egos cannot possibly allow anyone who dares to question the fact that the ugliest bike on the planet (Bugly) is as dominant as they believe?

The likes of Oilahedron the Storyteller, Todd the Fraud, Fisted Twisted, and numerous others cannot bare it without some outburst in his direction. I had no idea continued animal sex can make Busa owners so intolerant.

So, in summary, go to Church and apologise to god for being an insult to his aspirations for intelligent beings to inhabit his Earth! :finger:

FK


 :roll:

The thing is...

when it comes down to it, this is a Hayabusa forum,
a place where guys with common interests come together to talk, help each other, etc

If you can't participate in a meaningful manner, why the f$ck are you here?

Go to another forum with people like yourself where you'll feel more welcome.


Iron
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: bdorf94 on February 18, 2005, 09:52:57 AM
Phantom:  I'm going to say this as nice as possible.  There is no shame in admitting when you're wrong.  Remember saying this in the Mods section:  

"So you had a harley before this? Let me guess...this is your first real sportbike? You don't go over 150mph? Why did you get the Hayabusa? Hell, any new 600 can do over 150mph easy in stock trim. Wait Wait Wait....lemme guess.....BECAUSE IT'S A "HAYABUSA"!!!
Don't kill yourself .... Going from a 50rwhp 800lb harley to a 155rwhp 550lb Hayabusa is quite the quantum leap. "

You jump all over the guy because he just bought himself a Busa.  He didn't say one smartass remark in the Airbox Mod thread.  Out of nowhere, you jumped his case and started making bullshit assumptions about his riding style and experience.  Why?
You are unable to admit your faults.  Some people are wrong, and they admit it.  If you speak some shit, expect to get put into place.  If you're wrong, admit it......you ask for proof from everybody:  to prove their box mod's effectiveness - to prove they can walk a 12 - to prove that your 'thumb-over-hose-fill-bucket-faster" theory is wrong......you do realize that you too have failed to give proof.  I haven't seen one picture, video or documented item that says everything you say is right....that's because it's not.....nobody is right all the time.....a little modesty is NEVER a bad thing.

I'm 21 years old.  I started out on a '98 Honda Magna, then a '04 Yamaha FZ6 and then I bought my Busa last fall.  The highest I've been is 165 (indicated).....SO FUCKING WHAT??  I'm here to share an interest with fellow motorcyclists and to learn something in the process.  I don't care how fast anybody is, as long as they're out enjoying the ride.....everybody is taking the same risks to do something they truly enjoy.

Just back the fuck off once in awhile, and I would go out on a limb and say that people will get off your case.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Busa@11K on February 18, 2005, 10:20:38 AM
Quote from: Fearsome
If you actually read the threads properly (can you read without your babysitter assisting?) you will see it is he who is being attacked.

Why?

Because he is questioning the "wisdom" (sicker snicker) of Busa owners on this board. Their fragile egos cannot possibly allow anyone who dares to question the fact that the ugliest bike on the planet (Bugly) is as dominant as they believe?

FK


Fookin' Klown,

It doesn't take much more than a Humanzee to figure out that if someone with a ZX-12 comes onto a Busa board and "questions the wisdom" or bad mouths the members that he's going to get some flack.  The same would be true if a Busa owner went to the ZX board and did the same.  WTF do you guys expect!?! ... for all the Busa owners to "bow-down" to your "supreme" thought that the ZX is mightier than the Busa?  Do you think all the ZX owners would listen to  me  and treat me good if I came crying the same kind of bullshit on the ZX-12 board? :duh:  Get a clue.

As usual ... morons can only see through one-way vision glasses!  Since I realize this fact, I just write all you crying ZX guys as a bunch of cry-babies.  :cry:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Mr. Demeanor on February 18, 2005, 11:12:52 AM
Quote from: bdorf94
Phantom:  I'm going to say this as nice as possible.  There is no shame in admitting when you're wrong.  Remember saying this in the Mods section:  

"So you had a harley before this? Let me guess...this is your first real sportbike? You don't go over 150mph? Why did you get the Hayabusa? Hell, any new 600 can do over 150mph easy in stock trim. Wait Wait Wait....lemme guess.....BECAUSE IT'S A "HAYABUSA"!!!
Don't kill yourself .... Going from a 50rwhp 800lb harley to a 155rwhp 550lb Hayabusa is quite the quantum leap. "

You jump all over the guy because he just bought himself a Busa.  He didn't say one smartass remark in the Airbox Mod thread.  Out of nowhere, you jumped his case and started making bullshit assumptions about his riding style and experience.  Why?
You are unable to admit your faults.  Some people are wrong, and they admit it.  If you speak some shit, expect to get put into place.  If you're wrong, admit it......you ask for proof from everybody:  to prove their box mod's effectiveness - to prove they can walk a 12 - to prove that your 'thumb-over-hose-fill-bucket-faster" theory is wrong......you do realize that you too have failed to give proof.  I haven't seen one picture, video or documented item that says everything you say is right....that's because it's not.....nobody is right all the time.....a little modesty is NEVER a bad thing.

I'm 21 years old.  I started out on a '98 Honda Magna, then a '04 Yamaha FZ6 and then I bought my Busa last fall.  The highest I've been is 165 (indicated).....SO FUCKING WHAT??  I'm here to share an interest with fellow motorcyclists and to learn something in the process.  I don't care how fast anybody is, as long as they're out enjoying the ride.....everybody is taking the same risks to do something they truly enjoy.

Just back the fuck off once in awhile, and I would go out on a limb and say that people will get off your case.




You hit the nail on the head. Good post.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: svilla on February 18, 2005, 11:39:19 AM
Quote
Just back the fuck off once in awhile, and I would go out on a limb and say that people will get off your case.


 +1
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Randor-B on February 18, 2005, 11:39:46 AM
Quote from: Busa@11K

Fookin' Klown,

It doesn't take much more than a Humanzee to figure out that if someone with a ZX-12 comes onto a Busa board and "questions the wisdom" or bad mouths the members that he's going to get some flack.  The same would be true if a Busa owner went to the ZX board and did the same.  WTF do you guys expect!?! ... for all the Busa owners to "bow-down" to your "supreme" thought that the ZX is mightier than the Busa?  Do you think all the ZX owners would listen to  me  and treat me good if I came crying the same kind of bullshit on the ZX-12 board? :duh:  Get a clue.

As usual ... morons can only see through one-way vision glasses!  Since I realize this fact, I just write all you crying ZX guys as a bunch of cry-babies.  :cry:


Exactly!!!!!
Also, Phantom12 even said himself that the two bikes are extemely close with the Busa being just a sliver faster. The rider makes more difference than the bike does. NO ONE has argued against this. So what is it exactly that you guys are trying to accomplish here?  What is your argument today??
Good post Bdorf94.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Hayabusa_turbo on February 18, 2005, 01:56:20 PM
Crawl back to your zx12 forum....
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: SuperDave on February 18, 2005, 02:26:32 PM
Quote from: Phantom12


Seriously, you curse me out, call me names, patronize me, and use bullying tactics......yet I'm the one that's in question of getting banned?


Wow................


You are the guy that accused me of caring more about "cool points" on my shit than anything else.......My shit is plain-Jane appearing and I luv it that way.  You don't know Jack......Jack!!!  Take a hike and stuff yer bike.    :P
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Phantom13 on February 18, 2005, 04:39:35 PM
Superdave- How is that in any way such a horrible thing to say? I didn't call you an idiot, moron, asshole, or any other insulting name. I didn't say you were slow and you ride a slow bike, I didn't say that I'll smoke you.......I just gave my opinion on why someone would want a plain jane bike. Maybe it wasn't your reason..but I find it's the reason most showroom stock busa owners ride a busa.

By the way, all those things I told you I DIDN'T say...was said to me on this forum. Yet I'm the prick? Hypocrite.


Randor-B- I have no arguement


bdorf94- If I'm proven wrong with the airbox mod...then I'm wrong. No big deal, it's not like it's applicable to my bike. I was just asking politely and trying to talk about why it helps or hurts. I didn't turn it into a flame war....you guys did. I can't believe how intolerant you guys all are....it's hilarious, when someone agrees with you all....there are smiles all around, but when someone disagrees or questions you.....all hell breaks loose and you can't civily argue your case without the need to put me down, poke fun, call names, etc... Not that any of it gets to me in the least bit....I just find it hilarious how it's A-OK for you all to jump down my throat in anger...yet I can't jump down someone's throat in a slightly insensitive but civil manner.

Again.....hypocrites.

I just LOVE the double standards around here....
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: THE ICE MAN on February 18, 2005, 07:18:16 PM
Theres a guy around here that does alot of tunning I cant remeber his name??
He would know about wich air box works best, hes tried all of them back to back,
now let me see if I can remeber his name????  :wink:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Phantom13 on February 18, 2005, 08:45:59 PM
ICEMAN- if you tell me what is what with the airbox mod....I'll believe it. What results have you gotten with your testing?
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: hayazuki on February 18, 2005, 08:58:33 PM
Quote from: Phantom12
Yeah, I don't do anything but attack and spew out nonsense...not one factual word comes out of my posts...just a bunch of sloppy opinions.



Give me a break guys, Just about every one of my posts are based on factual information and on a mature level. I don't call names, curse, or personally bully on anyone here....can you all say the same? No.

For the most part...all I get in response to my posts (which are for the most part filled with logic and facts) is, "You idiot" or "Stupid Kid" or "Moron" or "I stomp every 12!!" or "You're on #2" or some other character reveiling comment along those lines.

I don't care if you hate me or love me......but for the sake of reputation, try and act like an adult. I'm probably the youngest guy here yet I'm one of the only guys that hasn't stooped down to such a childish level.

Seriously, you curse me out, call me names, patronize me, and use bullying tactics......yet I'm the one that's in question of getting banned?


Wow................


Most of this has to do with the fact that you came into our house. That would be like me opening your door walking in and flinging my muddy feet up on your coffee table.... Thats the basic idea....

Both stupidfast... Rider is the difference...
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: SLEEPERBUSA on February 18, 2005, 10:07:50 PM
Nobody here has done as much real world testing as The Ice Man!

Take his shit to the bank!
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: SLEEPERBUSA on February 18, 2005, 10:11:30 PM
Quote from: Phantom12
I'd like to see some sort of real world testing...enough with all this theoretical debating .....



I did real world testing.
I gained 5mph on top end with a small box mod.
Back to back testing.
No smoke and mirrors here!
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: 02booosa on February 18, 2005, 10:40:12 PM
:drink:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Busa@11K on February 18, 2005, 10:55:25 PM
Quote from: SLEEPERBUSA
Quote from: Phantom12
I'd like to see some sort of real world testing...enough with all this theoretical debating .....



I did real world testing.
I gained 5mph on top end with a small box mod.
Back to back testing.
No smoke and mirrors here!


:lmao: ... Is he still not believing that putting more air (from an airbox mod) and fuel in to an engine makes more HP? :duh:  Doesn't any of the Kawi guys do mods?! ... WTF? :roll:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: gotbus99 on February 19, 2005, 12:10:09 AM
we all know those guys (fk, phant, etc.) really like suzuki so i don't think they'll leave any time soon.  they might sound like they don't but they really do envy suzuki.  that's why they are still here.  suzuki rule again!!!!
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: bdorf94 on February 19, 2005, 01:37:53 AM
For the love of God....

"bdorf94- If I'm proven wrong with the airbox mod...then I'm wrong. No big deal, it's not like it's applicable to my bike. I was just asking politely and trying to talk about why it helps or hurts. I didn't turn it into a flame war....you guys did. I can't believe how intolerant you guys all are....it's hilarious, when someone agrees with you all....there are smiles all around, but when someone disagrees or questions you.....all hell breaks loose and you can't civily argue your case without the need to put me down, poke fun, call names, etc... Not that any of it gets to me in the least bit....I just find it hilarious how it's A-OK for you all to jump down my throat in anger...yet I can't jump down someone's throat in a slightly insensitive but civil manner.
Again.....hypocrites.
I just LOVE the double standards around here...."

You really have zero ability when it comes to being humble.....you honestly did try to be modest, but then you turn around and start bitching about HAYABUSA owners on SUZUKIHAYABUSA.ORG when you have been proved wrong on the HAYABUSA web site.

"Not that any of it gets to me in the least bit" - BULL FUCKING SHIT.....if it didn't, then you would just learn from these posts and shut your fucking mouth, but you aren't able to do that.  If you had one ounce of intelligence, you'd move on, and leave all of this post, along with the Air Box mod post behind you, but for some reason, you are unable to do that.

I just can't comprehend this bullshit anymore.....my common sense and modesty steps in at certain points.....I guess you'll never, EVER know what that's like.....
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Mr. Demeanor on February 19, 2005, 09:38:11 AM
Sad...very sad. I'm done with all this. Let him blab and cry. If he keeps cluttering up every post its just a matter of time before he goes away or gets banned. We have wasted too much time with him. He likes the controversy and I for one wont be feeding the stray dog any longer.
Phantom, your averaging 3.49 posts a day, here they are:
http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/phpbb/search.php?search_author=Phantom12
Have a good life and ride safe. I think as you get older you will find that all things change. I used to race Kawasaki and bled Kaw green. Now I find that everyone has different needs and expectations, even from the same bike as you've seen what I do with mine. You live in a state where you can ride 12 months a year. Spend some time riding.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Phantom13 on February 19, 2005, 10:11:41 AM
I live in south florida too....I've put on 21,000 miles on my 12R in the past 14 months. I ride just plenty....

So I take it you're backing down from the race?

Are you sure you're not related to Oilheadron?



bdorf94- I've already let the airbox mod thing go...you're the one dwelling on it. As for me shifting the focus on how hypocritical a lot of you guys are being...that's concerning the banning issue, NOT THE AIRBOX MOD. Out of curiousity..what thread did you quote me from? Oh that's right....THIS ONE! Excuse me for moving back towards the TOPIC...

I'm damned if I do...I'm damned if I don't. Bunch of hypocrites....
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Iron-man on February 19, 2005, 10:38:51 AM
Don't go away mad....

              .....just go away.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: SUTPHEN77 on February 19, 2005, 11:24:34 AM
powerstroke, I live about 45 minuits south of you, maybe we can take phantom out for a ride :wink:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Phantom13 on February 19, 2005, 01:12:04 PM
I would love that.....=)
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: VegasDude on February 19, 2005, 02:19:16 PM
I don't understand why people are giving phantom 12 a hard time. He is willing to run someone to prove some point. I don't think anyone should be banned, including the Kilt wearing FK. I've only read what Phantom 12 has posted on this thread, but i have not seen anything out of line.........................either run him or ........................................
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Twisted on February 19, 2005, 02:34:19 PM
he prolly wears a g-string under it too...  :shock:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: 02SE on February 19, 2005, 03:38:40 PM
Vegasdude wrote:

Quote
I've only read what Phantom 12 has posted on this thread, but i have not seen anything out of line.


You would have to have read all of his posts on the board, that would give you an idea of why Dennis created this thread.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Nomad on February 19, 2005, 05:07:12 PM
Hey Phantom... ive got this 300 page technical report to write by tomorrow.. can ya just knock out the first 100 pages while yer warming up to reply to this thread pluuuuueeeeeezzzze...

BTW I think your bike is the badest bike PERIOD! You should definatly stay!

PS.
 wouldn't you feel more at home in the 12 forum?
(is there one???)


PPS.
Note to Phantom...
this is a Hayabusa forum.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Phantom13 on February 19, 2005, 05:07:13 PM
Go ahead and read those other threads....Most of my posts are either challenging someone to back up their, "12r sucks, Busa rules!" comments or defending myself from accusations made by the members here.

It would seem that it's ok for a Busa guy to curse, insult, and personally attack a 12R guy...but the second the 12R guy attempts to defend himself or his views and throws down a challenge, he's in contention of bannishment!!!!


I have yet to curse someone out, call them profane names, or insult them on a personal level. Yet I'm the one catching all the heat.... while those who have done the above mentioned, are not only welcome but praised for doing so!  

What's the deal? Is acting like a biggot the key to acceptance around here? It would seem that if you're sporting the "S" on your tank...you can do no evil...yet if you've got a "K" and you stand by it with conviction in a mature manner....you're branded a troll.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Todd on February 19, 2005, 06:26:14 PM
Quote
I have yet to curse someone out, call them profane names, or insult them on a personal level.


Yeah, you're a real Mother Teresa. :roll:

Let's set the record straight, again.

A few quotes written by Phantom12:

"refrain from letting your mouth reveil your low IQ"

"Keep your $0.02 and invest it somewhere else."

"D- Are you a fucking idiot?"

"You obviously don't know SHIT about them."

"Homo's like you belong on a yamaha forum."


That last delightful quote was for Dennis/Motorhead - the owner of this board and one of the best bike tuners in the country. :duh:

To call you a lying self righteous ass would be too nice. :finger:

You've contributed nothing but your own shared misery and misinformation.

Read the poll results and cop a clue for a change.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: THEM0T0RHEAD on February 19, 2005, 07:23:05 PM
Quote from: Todd
Quote from: Phantom12


"Homo's like you belong on a yamaha forum."

That last delightful quote was for Dennis/Motorhead - the owner of this board and one of the best bike tuners in the country. :duh:



He directed that at my reply, not Dennis'. But he THOUGHT it was the 'official member' so the intent was there.

I think if he had responded to Dennis' post with that, the poll would be a moot point and the troll would be history.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Busa@11K on February 20, 2005, 01:20:06 AM
Quote from: VegasDude
I don't understand why people are giving phantom 12 a hard time. He is willing to run someone to prove some point.........either run him or .............


I agree ... shit, there's got to be someone close to him that will meet up and settle what he's all nuts over.  Come on! ... someone must want to race.  :P
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: SLEEPERBUSA on February 20, 2005, 01:45:30 AM
Quote from: SLEEPERBUSA
Quote from: Phantom12
I'd like to see some sort of real world testing...enough with all this theoretical debating .....



I did real world testing.
I gained 5mph on top end with a small box mod.
Back to back testing.
No smoke and mirrors here!
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: SUTPHEN77 on February 20, 2005, 06:48:25 AM
Here ya go phantom, the schedule below is for Bradenton Motor Sports park which is not far from you. Or if you like I can introduce you to myself and some guys at Immokolee (also not far) which is an 1/8 mile track. I have been known to put a big sprocket on a time or two. Bradenton is a 1/4 mile sticky track and usually on thursdays nights they always have test and tune. The schedule below also has saturday grudge races on it.

FEBRUARY   Bradenton Motorsports Park - 2005
Subject to change.
 
Thur 17 6-11p All welcome test & tune
Fri 18 8p-1a NHRA Street Legal Drags - Race the Strip. Not the Street. (Club 1320)
Sat 19 10a-3p All welcome test & tune & Florida Corvette Challenge  
Sat 19 4p BRACKETS - 1/4 mile SP/P Combo plus Cycle, Sportsman, JrDragster & Harley. (BMP points event)  
Sun 20 9a-5p Runday Sunday - All run T&T / Grudge Mania / Motorcycles
WITH SWAP MEET (no charge for swap space - sell anything)  
Fri 25 - SUPER CHEVY SHOW - www.superchevyshow.com  
Sat 26 - SUPER CHEVY SHOW - www.superchevyshow.com  
Sun 27 - SUPER CHEVY SHOW - www.superchevyshow.com  
MARCH   Bradenton Motorsports Park - 2005
Subject to change.
 
Thur 3 6-11p All welcome test & tune
Sat 5 10a-3p All welcome test & tune
Sat 5 4p BRACKETS - 1/8 mile SP/P Combo plus Cycle, Sportsman, JrDragster & Harley. (BMP points event)  
Sun 6 - Doug Foley's Drag Racing School - www.dougfoley.com
Mon 7 - Doug Foley's Drag Racing School - www.dougfoley.com
Thur 10 Noon NMRA early parking. Test & tune 4-10p NMRA only  
Fri 11 - NMRA SPRING FORD NATIONALS - www.nmraracing.com  
Sat 12 - NMRA SPRING FORD NATIONALS - www.nmraracing.com  
Sun 13 - NMRA SPRING FORD NATIONALS - www.nmraracing.com  
Thur 17 6-11p All welcome test & tune
Fri 18 8p-1a NHRA Street Legal Drags - Race the Strip. Not the Street. (Club 1320)
Thur 24 6-11p All welcome test & tune
Sat 26 10a-3p All welcome test & tune & Florida Corvette Challenge  
Thur 31 4-10p PRO early parking. Test & tune 4-10p PRO participants only
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: XX4me on February 20, 2005, 10:21:51 AM
Quote from: Busa@11K
Quote from: VegasDude
I don't understand why people are giving phantom 12 a hard time. He is willing to run someone to prove some point.........either run him or .............


I agree ... shit, there's got to be someone close to him that will meet up and settle what he's all nuts over.  Come on! ... someone must want to race.  :P


Yes please! Quit the bantering and go race for crying out loud.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: SuperDave on February 20, 2005, 11:15:50 AM
Quote from: Todd
Quote
I have yet to curse someone out, call them profane names, or insult them on a personal level.


Yeah, you're a real Mother Teresa. :roll:

Let's set the record straight, again.

A few quotes written by Phantom12:

"refrain from letting your mouth reveil your low IQ"

"Keep your $0.02 and invest it somewhere else."

"D- Are you a fucking idiot?"

"You obviously don't know SHIT about them."

"Homo's like you belong on a yamaha forum."


That last delightful quote was for Dennis/Motorhead - the owner of this board and one of the best bike tuners in the country. :duh:

To call you a lying self righteous ass would be too nice. :finger:

You've contributed nothing but your own shared misery and misinformation.

Read the poll results and cop a clue for a change.


Todd, my hero.... :)
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Todd on February 20, 2005, 01:20:17 PM
Never could handle the results you didn't like (and never will) - so you make up your own.

You are still slower - spin it any way you like.

FK:  The Diarrhea King of Bike Boards - World Wide - even those he has no business being on.

Now fuck off and die - take your rancid mouth and lies with you. :finger:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: WWJD on February 21, 2005, 09:00:55 AM
"fuck you busa scum" ?

I thought Busa pilots were supposed to be the pricks.   And yet, I'd NEVER say something like that to a zx-12r owner.   I respect them.  Way to represent your TRUE colors
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Iron-man on February 21, 2005, 09:50:12 AM
Quote from: Fearsome
Look.

My signature simply reflects the fact I hate snot nosed two faced wankers of questionable sexuality who happen purely by chance to also be Busa owners.

Although it is clear you and your fellow Bugly owning fuckface cunts are in need of a good rogering by a hugely hung shemale hell bent on infecting you with cock rot, I in no way would ever wish harm upon any of you.

Although the Busa is an abortion of what could possibly be called a motorcycle, you are I think still classed as bikers and as such i would never wish harm upon theez.

Now go stick your cock up yer gayboy Busa owning mates you fuck. Your rectum is suffering from penis envy.

:finger:

FK


Why the hell are you here anyway?

If its to show how intelligent and classy you are,
well you've done that.

Now why not go away?

It's good to have friendly opposition and difference of opinion, but why insult people all the time?

grow the f#ck up man.
 :roll:


Iron
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Todd on February 21, 2005, 10:01:50 AM
I don't wish ill on my fellow bikers.  Only you, FK. :finger:

You deserve it for the 5 years of lies, name calling, insulting, shit stirring and historical revisionism. (fraud)

You're a professional irritant whose sole purpose is to build themselves up by lying to put others down.

Now you are trying to negate my own humble accomplishments.

You are not a "fellow biker" - you're just an asshole pretending to be a biker.  

Asshole first - everything else later.

I think I can speak for most everyone here - on OUR Hayabusa board - that we grew weary of your unwanted, uninvited and senseless antics several years back.

Now fuck off and die.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Todd on February 21, 2005, 11:47:51 AM
That was mine, asshole. :finger:

From now on - my only response to you will be short and sweet.  That is all you deserve.  Get used to it.

Fuck off and die. :finger:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: WWJD on February 21, 2005, 01:40:50 PM
Quote from: Fearsome
Look.

My signature simply reflects the fact I hate snot nosed two faced wankers of questionable sexuality who happen purely by chance to also be Busa owners.

Although it is clear you and your fellow Bugly owning fuckface cunts are in need of a good rogering by a hugely hung shemale hell bent on infecting you with cock rot, I in no way would ever wish harm upon any of you.

Although the Busa is an abortion of what could possibly be called a motorcycle, you are I think still classed as bikers and as such i would never wish harm upon theez.

Now go stick your cock up yer gayboy Busa owning mates you fuck. Your rectum is suffering from penis envy.

:finger:

FK


I'm guessing there is a homosexual forum somewhere desperately missing this person's participation.    The REAL 12 owners ought to step up here and put this guy away before we start to assume ALL 12 owners are like this.  Am I right?
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Steve A on February 21, 2005, 01:59:17 PM
That is actually one of his milder posts.  Get him wound up enough and he really comes up with some good ones.
Title: phantom12
Post by: tinmann8 on February 21, 2005, 03:27:12 PM
Are there no ZX12 forums ?
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Phantom13 on February 21, 2005, 03:40:30 PM
I spend more time at ZX-12R.org than I do here...... Believe it or not.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: abusu1300 on February 21, 2005, 04:54:03 PM
hey phantom12 ... did you let them know on 12.org you got spanked by a stock Busa ??? ohh they probably already know already huh ??? im sure your goofy ass will get more sympathy there and the sad thing is your still looking like a horses ass by all your idiot comment and excuses ... but what you can expect out of you or your " tuned " "215hp daily driver" "200+mph"  :moped: ZX12

and BTW you wont find it hard to find someone to race you at 6K !!! your a fool get a clue !!!!
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Todd on February 22, 2005, 05:26:49 PM
Fuck off and die, snail. :finger:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Phantom13 on February 22, 2005, 06:16:02 PM
Abusu1300- Yes, I let them know I lost to ICEMAN on the stocker...I also let them know that all the guys out there with piped Busa's got spanked equally as bad as I did...   ICEMAN isn't your average rider... he's dished out 1/4 mile E/T's that rival those professionals like Keith Dennis aka Shine.

This is a guy who use to race with Barry Henson.... Nuff said.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Todd on February 22, 2005, 09:51:36 PM
(http://www.altmanphoto.com/Finger.to.Sam.jpeg)
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Copperhead99 on February 23, 2005, 04:21:40 AM
Quote from: Todd
I don't wish ill on my fellow bikers.  Only you, FK. :finger:

You deserve it for the 5 years of lies, name calling, insulting, shit stirring and historical revisionism. (fraud)

You're a professional irritant whose sole purpose is to build themselves up by lying to put others down.

Now you are trying to negate my own humble accomplishments.

You are not a "fellow biker" - you're just an asshole pretending to be a biker.  

Asshole first - everything else later.

I think I can speak for most everyone here - on OUR Hayabusa board - that we grew weary of your unwanted, uninvited and senseless antics several years back.

Now fuck off and die.

 :thumb:

FK, the U.K's version of "Ranger". His lack of credibility is now intercontinental.  :lol:  T(his) subject is really old....
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Phantom13 on February 23, 2005, 02:51:01 PM
FK- You've just figured this out? The guy does more reading than riding....why do you even bother with him? We're not going to see an entire ticket or a GPS from him....so why bother?

Let him remain the "Research King".... Without guys like us who race....he'd have nothing to read. He needs us to justify his exsistance...
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Todd on February 23, 2005, 05:33:27 PM
I knew FK's butt sniffer would come running to lick his balls and ease his wounded (and slower) ego again.  :duh:

Watch out for those stock Busas. :lol2:

(http://www.armstrongfiles.com/files/archives/finger.jpg)
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: MET on February 23, 2005, 05:38:48 PM
Hell if we kicked everyone off the board for being an azzhole, there would not be many of us here.  I have read stuff over the MNY years on this site, that I have not liked.  What this shows is WE all can be AZZholes at times.  Everyone just get off their high horse.  We can ignor what we don't like.  we do not have to feed into it.

Quote from: 02BluBlkBusa
1.  Opinions are like assholes, we all have one.  Owners of the 12R will like their bike, over the Busa.  So what?  That is their opinion.  
2.  A race is not won by the bike alone, it has more to do with the rider.    
3.  Bottom line up front.  Only a race will tell the truth.  So make arrangements for the race.  But find a neutral location.
4.  I think banning someone because you don't like the individual or you don't agree with what is said, is a bit much.  If the individual broke the rules that he was aware of, then that's a different issue.  Otherwise, if you don't like what is being posted by someone, then don't read it.  
5.  That's my opinion.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Phantom13 on February 23, 2005, 05:45:10 PM
Todd, can you run 9.50's on a stock motored Hayabusa? Well the guy who beat me on the stock Busa... did....consitantly.

That's on par with what SHINE ran on the Busa with the same mods....


You think you can beat SHINE if you had 20hp more than him? Didn't think so... So please, quit speaking of real racing which you know nothing of.... stick to the internet where you're hailed as the "RESEARCH KING" LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's the PC name for "MAGAZINE RACER"...  How sad it is to be known all over the internet as a magazine racer... even by your own.


You say to me "watch out for those stock busa's"

I say to you... "watch out for carpal tunnel and papercuts"


and you've got the nerve to call me a loser? LMFAO!!!!!!!!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Todd on February 23, 2005, 05:57:37 PM
Still upset about my friend with the stock Busa stepping forward to tell you what happened with me, aren't you?  :lol:

Watch out for those STOCK Busas. :lol2:

 :lmao:

(http://www.wfmu.org/Playlists/Doug/doug.2003/030912/thefinger.jpg)
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Badfastbusa on February 23, 2005, 06:00:05 PM
i dont have anything against you or anything but i think i would probably find somewhere else to go if i wasnt accepted where i am at...maybe thats just me???  maybe if you didnt have an opposing opinion on every subject you would probably be a little easier to cope with... and the i'm right your wrong attitude usually never gets you anywhere on these boards but disliked.

just my views which probably doesnt matter, but i have one thing on my side though, i have a busa which really seems to matter on this site for some reason, maybe because it is a busa site and not a kawi site.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Phantom13 on February 23, 2005, 06:12:40 PM
Nah, that didn't even catch my attention till just now when you mentioned it.

I do believe you are upset that FK (of all people!! how ironic) called you out on YOUR bullshit. FRAUD! It's a sad day when people use other people's tickets.


WATCH OUT FOR CARPAL TUNNEL AND PAPERCUTS!!!
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Todd on February 23, 2005, 06:20:51 PM
Lie all you like.  It doesn't change my results.  Nor does it obscure the fact that FK is slooooowerrrrr. :lol2:

Now go play with your butt buddy - FK. He's probably done with the dog now.  :lol:

WATCH OUT FOR STOCK BUSAS!!!![/color]
(http://www.cocoo.co.uk/images/big/the%20finger.jpg)
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: nemsis on February 24, 2005, 05:10:04 PM
Quote from: Phantom12
Todd, can you run 9.50's on a stock motored Hayabusa? Well the guy who beat me on the stock Busa... did....consitantly.

That's on par with what SHINE ran on the Busa with the same mods....


You think you can beat SHINE if you had 20hp more than him? Didn't think so... So please, quit speaking of real racing which you know nothing of.... stick to the internet where you're hailed as the "RESEARCH KING" LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's the PC name for "MAGAZINE RACER"...  How sad it is to be known all over the internet as a magazine racer... even by your own.


You say to me "watch out for those stock busa's"

I say to you... "watch out for carpal tunnel and papercuts"


and you've got the nerve to call me a loser? LMFAO!!!!!!!!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:




What do you run in the 1/4 super jock let's see your time slips :1:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Phantom13 on February 24, 2005, 05:39:48 PM
Never claimed to be a super jockey!!!! I'm 230lb 6'2".... with about 8-10 passes down the strip... EVER. Best run was 10.23@140.9.... stock motor.... into a headwind....

Again, that's about average for your normal joe with little to no strip experience and a stock motor.

I'm sure if I went a few more times.. I'd be in the 9.9's on my stock motor....no nitrous.


1st time at the strip - 10.7's

2nd time at the strip - 10.5's

3rd time at the strip - 10.2's (stock arm, stock gearing, all motor)


See a pattern? You either gotta be very talented or lucky to get into the 9's on an untouched stock motor, with a stock arm, with stock gearing.... especially when you're 230lb's and you can count all your passes on your hands!!!
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: nemsis on February 24, 2005, 05:49:38 PM
maybe you should spend more time at the track instead of talking shit
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: YAG on February 24, 2005, 06:07:01 PM
I can't believe this thread is still going :roll:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Mr. Demeanor on February 24, 2005, 06:13:48 PM
Poor guy thought practicing defensive driving was buying a ZX12 and racing Hayabusas  :duh:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Phantom13 on February 24, 2005, 08:18:57 PM
Nemsis- I'm not a 1/4 mile guy... never interested me much. I'd rather be flying at 190mph over a mile than doing 140-150 in a 1/4.

There's nothing like a close race at 180+mph....trading inches or slowly pulling pass them at that speed is the ultimate race, IMO.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: MET on February 24, 2005, 08:34:14 PM
And going and going and going !!  Just show you can't be serious about kicking Phantom off, what would you guys do for controversy.

Quote from: YAG
I can't believe this thread is still going :roll:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: phyrphxr on February 24, 2005, 10:53:09 PM
well, it looks like he ought to start packing!

c'mon D, pull the trigger on this disruptive monkey fukker.

 :P
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: phyrphxr on February 24, 2005, 11:26:05 PM
Phantom12 -

did you really post this over on the 12 board, you know the board you said you spend so much more time on than here? But you have nearly a hundred more posts here than there...

You are the epitome of 'board troll' and you have stunk up this forum.

phantom12, fk's shadow posted:

Well, just a little update....I was getting out of work last night and guess who's sitting there right next to my bike on his Hayabugly? Yup, #4 on my list of beaten busa's (see above). Wanted a rematch I guess. We went out to a little side road..no traffic and got it on..again.

30mph roll-on.... we jumped at the same time and I just pulled away easiliy.

Heads up from a light.... I cut the quicker R/T and left him for dead at the light...I let off throttle about 1/4 mile later and looked behind me only to see him 15 bikes back and trying to catch up.

We then went from another 30mph roll on...only this time I gave him the jump and about 3 bikes before I went after him. By 2nd gear I was flying up by his side and pulling away.

I then told him to pull over at the gas station so we can "conversate"....He bailed out and went home instead.

All this...No Nitrous whatsoever.


Also, a couple weeks ago I was at the local hooters for bike night and ran into this shittalker I met on a Busa who talked down to the 12R for 2 hours before he raced me...after I smoked him he wouldn't come back to hooters. So this time that I saw him...I asked him what happend with that race (with a grin on my face). He was singing a different tune this day and started telling me how fast my ZX is...but claiming I have so much more work done to my bike. He didn't believe I had a 100% bone stock motor.


This is one wacked fuk. He actually believes this crap, and that's scary.

It's those  damn 155hp stockers that give him the most fits though.. :lmao:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: YAG on February 25, 2005, 02:20:15 AM
I found a new avatar for phantom12.......

(http://dmxstuff.com/temp/Assclown.jpg)
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: gnd111 on February 25, 2005, 02:31:23 AM
Quote from: Phantom12
Nemsis- I'm not a 1/4 mile guy... never interested me much. I'd rather be flying at 190mph over a mile than doing 140-150 in a 1/4.

There's nothing like a close race at 180+mph....trading inches or slowly pulling pass them at that speed is the ultimate race, IMO.


Do you realize that the mid range on your bike might be off a bit?  Not trying to bust on you but that MPH is low for someone even at your dressed out weight for a 12R.  You should be about 144 with your weight on a 12R in the 1/4.  I know the 1/4 isn't your gig but alot of that 9/10'ths is spent accelerating theu the mid on the bike after each shift...
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: gnd111 on February 25, 2005, 02:31:23 AM
Quote from: Phantom12
Nemsis- I'm not a 1/4 mile guy... never interested me much. I'd rather be flying at 190mph over a mile than doing 140-150 in a 1/4.

There's nothing like a close race at 180+mph....trading inches or slowly pulling pass them at that speed is the ultimate race, IMO.


Do you realize that the mid range on your bike might be off a bit?  Not trying to bust on you but that MPH is low for someone even at your dressed out weight for a 12R.  You should be about 144 with your weight on a 12R in the 1/4.  I know the 1/4 isn't your gig but alot of that 9/10'ths is spent accelerating theu the mid on the bike after each shift...
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: gm1300 on February 25, 2005, 10:48:39 AM
fearsome wrote

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After first gear, Phantom should only change when he sees the rev counter go 1/'3rd in the red which means in each gear he will be going through his peak power area. With his pipe he should be at or near peak power in 2nd to 6th the whole way.


then fearsome also wrote

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Phantom, if you have six gear pulls look at them. They tell you when to change gear.


wow with all this coaching from fearsome , phantom12 will be keeping up with stock busa's in no time

this is like international super tuning

it is amazing at the work that goes into racing a stock or piped busa
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Mr. Demeanor on February 25, 2005, 10:52:28 AM
Actually your gear change should be at a differet rpm for each gear to optimize aceleration. That rpm has to calculated given the rpm range for each gear you will be in and  your power curve for that rpm range. With the big drop in rpm from 1t to 2nd gear, yes, you pretty much need to run it to the limiter. But, if you do the same in the 5th to 6th gear change, you may be cheating yourself out of some power.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: TufBusa on February 25, 2005, 11:20:31 AM
All you guys tossing the shit bone to FK & Phantom have been smoking weed man! All you guys should be giving advise on how to pry the twinkies out of the hands of these two (230 pounds of jiggling blubber) take up a collection to buy them both memberships at their local gym, get that weight down to normal. Maybe, just maybe at that point we would hear no more of this (But I weigh in a 230 naked) I bet that's a sight to behold  :roll:

Also, if they lost 75 pounds just mayge they could actually beat a "Stock Busa" aka "IceMan"  :lol:

Does anyone on here suspect the reason so much time is spent on the busa boards is because their 230 pound fat ass has no appeal to the opposite sex?

Show us photos of these two Einstiens!
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Todd on February 25, 2005, 12:50:17 PM
(http://www.qsl.net/n5mya/fat-fk.jpg)
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Todd on February 25, 2005, 01:03:59 PM
(http://www.qsl.net/n5mya/fk-lies6.jpg)

"Slugger was the fastest that day class 2, backing it up." - FK posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Chris Turner on February 25, 2005, 01:26:31 PM
:twisted: go away
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Phantom13 on February 25, 2005, 03:15:24 PM
ICEMAN weighs in at around 55lb less pounds than I do... and is much shorter....

Less weight + less frontal area = Speed


Rule of thumb is that it takes 5rwhp to counter an extra 20 pounds of weight... so in that case, it would have taken almost 15rwhp more on my bike to match his acceleration.... Everything else is just rider skill.

What a coincidence... ICEMAN and I were running identical MPH on that race...


GM1300- seriously, you need to stop with that "Stock Busa" crap. That "stock busa' beat up every single modified Busa there that day.....

So I guess that means all 170rwhp modified Busa's need to watch out for Stock 155rwhp Busa's.  Man oh man...wait till the boys at Maxton hear about this.... A stock busa will go faster than any modified Busa or 12R.... and all this time we thought it was the other way around.

This is the last time I'll say this to you....   ICEMAN is pro rider quality, he's been running the 9/10th's for the past 10 years... he weighs 55lb less than me, He is also much smaller framed...     The bike was not SHOWROOM stock either.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Busa@11K on February 25, 2005, 03:32:29 PM
Quote from: Phantom12
This is the last time I'll say this to you....  


I highly doubt it!  :P
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: gm1300 on February 25, 2005, 04:14:40 PM
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GM1300- seriously, you need to stop with that "Stock Busa" crap. That "stock busa' beat up every single modified Busa there that day.....

So I guess that means all 170rwhp modified Busa's need to watch out for Stock 155rwhp Busa's. Man oh man...wait till the boys at Maxton hear about this.... A stock busa will go faster than any modified Busa or 12R.... and all this time we thought it was the other way around.



stop with all the excuses  

so just admit this , a great rider on a stock busa can kick the shit out of YOU on YOUR shitty 12

can you argue with that ?
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you came on here talkin shit about how you are a "busa beater"then you get romped by a stock busa and a piped busa in front of  lots of witness's then you have the balls to make 100 excuses about it


you will never give up with the excuses obviously

and it seems you will never drop this busa vs 12 thing

why do you waste so much time on busa vs 12 ?


why the fuck would you come on here( a fucking busa board for christ sakes) insulting the busa owners and perpetuating some old news like the  "busa vs 12" shit
who cares about your fucking 175 hp on an "untouched motor" what good is it if  you are loosing to stock busa's ? you are really the biggest fuckin moron i have ever come across on the internet

if you would have took all the money you spent on mods and put it towards learning how to ride the bike you would probably would do better in the 9/10ths then you are doing now

the busa vs 12 thing has been going on since probably before you hit puberty . who gives a shit about it

both the 12 and the busa are good bikes just enjoy the fucking bike already .

 if you cant stop thinking about busa's then get one already
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Phantom13 on February 25, 2005, 04:29:04 PM
Get a Busa? Why would I downgrade?


GM, do you even own a Busa?
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: gm1300 on February 25, 2005, 04:50:58 PM
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GM, do you even own a Busa?





phantom , what difference does it make what bike i have?

you came here with your "busa aint all that , the 12 is better " crusade

why do you feel the need to do this ?

why come to a busa board to try to convince the owners that the 12 is better or as good as the busa ?

just go and enjoy your bike and stop trying to disrupt other people just because you dont own the same type of bike that they do or you dont like what they are riding

this is getting old

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Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: THE ICE MAN on February 25, 2005, 04:53:18 PM
Its not showroom stock, its lowered 1.5" THATS IT !
I was going to put a 17 tooth on the rear but I dont want to hear,
but he had a different sprocket,
this bike still has all the reflectors on and mud flap of a fender also.
And 3 H.P. makes up 1 MPH and so does 20 LB'S
so if you are 55 LB's hevier than me,than you are giving me 18 H.P. on wieght,  but you have 22 more H.P. so I am at a disadvante of  4 H.P. and the biggest thing of all, I fall short on power I cannot rev my bike out the power stops early i have no pipe, stock cloged up exhaust !
So when i am at lets say 11,000 on my tach you are making much more than 22 H.P. on me, because I am at less than 155 H.P. at 11,000 rpm's.
Example= 2 bikes both make 177 h.p. wich is not the case here  i only make 155 h.p.
Bike #1 has pipe and makes peak at 12,000 to limiter
Bike #2 no pipe & makes peak H.P at 10,500 and starts losing power after
wich bike should go faster in a long mile reving out all gears to
top of 6th gear ??
Just to let you know. :wink:
I told you 100.00 for an hour i can teach you things that you can not learn
in 5-10 years! :lol:  :lol:

I just remembered you are only35 #'s heavier than me, I still have the stock exhaust on it's 32 pounds when you change pipes its a 22 # wieght savings, that means you have another 1MPH on your side.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Mr. Demeanor on February 25, 2005, 05:08:17 PM
Phantom, during all this bickering have you ever read my signature? When you lose a race, or a job, or anything, ultimately, you have nobody to blame but yourself. You are a perfect example of what is wrong with this country. No accountability. When something goes wrong its never your fault. You sound no different then the idiot who burns himself on hot coffee and sues. I live my life by the "Captain of my own ship" philosophy. Its not an easy thing to do but it is rewarding.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: YAG on February 25, 2005, 06:12:13 PM
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah..............


This web site is called suzukihayabusa.org for a fucking REASON... Take your bullshit and your 12 and get fucked you wanker.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: dognosh on February 26, 2005, 03:05:02 AM
what fearsome krapasaki fails to mention is that the timing lights at the track he claims to have made
those excellent ETs are crap and wrong

hence why most 200mph.org members never go there anymore

also he has a TURBO ZX12R which hasn't managed 200 mph yet :lol:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Twisted on February 26, 2005, 05:25:37 AM
I wonder if the ZX12 will make it to the 2006 run?
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: MET on February 26, 2005, 03:14:08 PM
:o  :o

Quote from: dognosh
what fearsome krapasaki fails to mention is that the timing lights at the track he claims to have made
those excellent ETs are crap and wrong

hence why most 200mph.org members never go there anymore

also he has a TURBO ZX12R which hasn't managed 200 mph yet :lol:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: RAFTMAN on February 26, 2005, 03:23:43 PM
Go Home Phantom 12!!
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: THE ICE MAN on February 27, 2005, 10:26:54 AM
Raftman I heard you wanted to run Phantom out of town??.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Mr. Demeanor on February 27, 2005, 10:53:25 AM
He hasnt posted in a couple days  :D
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Todd on February 27, 2005, 11:24:27 AM
Quote from: Ninja Eater
:o  :o

Quote from: dognosh
what fearsome krapasaki fails to mention is that the timing lights at the track he claims to have made
those excellent ETs are crap and wrong

hence why most 200mph.org members never go there anymore

also he has a TURBO ZX12R which hasn't managed 200 mph yet :lol:


In fact not a single ZX12R class 2 OR iFK's turbo has done even 200 at the JD events while the Busas have.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: HOS on February 27, 2005, 12:47:01 PM
At least one of the 200.org guys has done 200mph on his Busa FK.

One of the lads from Cornwall did it. I remember it well.  I nearly bought his bike, the deal fell through, he then went on to do a 200.6 or there abouts through the lights.

What was his name ......Slugger ?
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Todd on February 27, 2005, 01:31:36 PM
iFat arsed iFairy twat. :finger:

Elvington lights are FUBAR.  Common knowledge at 200.org

JD lights are spot on where NO Class 2 ZX-12 since their existence of 5 years or iFK's turbo has ever gone 200 but several Class 2 (NA) Busas have.

iFat arsed iFairy twat has never done 200 anywhere.


1279   200mph Members Area / Judgement Day Racing & Other 200mph Events / Re:FOR THE RECORD!!!  on: October 13, 2003, 04:27:10 PM

"Shame on me for what Fartley?
That day you turned up...yes i agree, they [Elvington timing lights] were not right. Something was up"    - posted by iFK :finger:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Todd on February 27, 2005, 01:39:17 PM
Let's see what his homies think about him:

"the internet FK is a twat. with an agenda to wind everyone up on every occasion. iFK as hes known around these parts relies on assumptions, conjecture and lies to bolster his arguments, wet as they may be. IF only, IF this, IF that, IF fucking nothing. - 200mph.org UK
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: SuperDave on February 27, 2005, 01:48:16 PM
Phantom 12 has the distinction of being the one individual who refuses to accept the fact that he/his input/and his bike........are not wanted here.  Entertainment value not-withstanding...............that sucker needs to just go away, IMO.............can I get an Amen????
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Todd on February 27, 2005, 04:05:41 PM
iFat arsed iFairy twat. :finger:

World Wide Liar and Cheating Fraud. :finger:

And proven to be slower. :finger:

"Ban the man. He's a sham. All flim flam and toys out of pram."
- Written by a true UK 200 mph biker, HH


In 5 years no 12 has been able to match the Busas at the premier 200mph.org events using Tag Heuer timing equipment.

Deal with it.

(http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/gallery/albums/album01/toddb1.jpg)
Faster and Qucker than iFK.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: VegasDude on February 27, 2005, 05:41:19 PM
Hey Todd what's up.?..........I see you and F(the Kilt)K are still buddies........................haha
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Todd on February 27, 2005, 06:47:26 PM
How's it going, Dave? :thumb:

Yeah - he's still doing the same thing he was 5 years ago. :duh:

Can you say "lost cause"?  :lol:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: VegasDude on February 27, 2005, 07:46:54 PM
Quote from: Todd
How's it going, Dave? :thumb:

Yeah - he's still doing the same thing he was 5 years ago. :duh:

Can you say "lost cause"?  :lol:



It's going pretty good..........but I think FK is not as, how shall say it, not up to the standards of being a retarded asshole that he was 3 or 4 years ago............perhaps all that stuff he's being smoking has dulled his brain...............
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: VegasDude on February 27, 2005, 07:51:46 PM
Quote from: Todd
iFat arsed iFairy twat. :finger:

World Wide Liar and Cheating Fraud. :finger:

And proven to be slower. :finger:

"Ban the man. He's a sham. All flim flam and toys out of pram."
- Written by a true UK 200 mph biker, HH


In 5 years no 12 has been able to match the Busas at the premier 200mph.org events using Tag Heuer timing equipment.

Deal with it.

(http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/gallery/albums/album01/toddb1.jpg)
Faster and Qucker than iFK.



Todd this shit is almost as funny the time we nailed FK with the Kilt routine...........I laughed for days over that one.........FK didn't respond for a month after that beating...........!!!
Title: phantom 12
Post by: tinmann8 on February 28, 2005, 10:13:36 PM
This thread is like a chain letter .
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Mr. Demeanor on February 28, 2005, 10:22:29 PM
Anyone notice someone missing?
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: 02SE on February 28, 2005, 10:29:18 PM
Nah, he's still lurking. I was hoping this thread would go away, but it got brought back to the top.  :roll:


Edited for the sheep molesting loser below:
Notice the times of the posts Jamie, you fucking moron. It was brought back to the top by tinmann, and was still at the top when I posted.  :finger:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Phantom13 on March 01, 2005, 05:10:25 PM
FK- They will never attack one of their own... regardless.


They won't rag on Todd for using someone else's ticket... or being the biggest magazine racer of all time.... Oh I'm sorry, that's the wrong term... you guys use "Research King", right? LMFAO!

They won't rag on GM1300 for never having owned a Busa or any fast bike...

They won't rag on 02SE for not posting a GPS to prove he's actually been fast.

They won't rag on Powerstroke for pussying out when I challenged him to a race for talking shit.

They won't rag on all the modified 170rwhp Busa's that got their asses handed to them by ICEMAN on a stock Busa.

They won't rag on Oilheadron for repeatedly making excuses as to why he won't race me.. or why he won't post a GPS showing anything worth looking at.

They won't rag on GND111 for never having topped out his Busa...or the fact that when he tried to top it out... he pussied out at 170.

They won't rag on TWISTED for talking shit... when he himself only has a bone stocker that he doesn't race.




They are a pack of jackals that like to team up and talk shit to anyone who opposes their views or opinions. It's always the same people.... if one of them gets into an argument... the rest come and hijack the thread with constant bashing ... feeding each other continuously.

Of course... Admin turns a blind eye to them because they are Busa owners attacking Ninja owners... and that's "OK". But when the Ninja guys do the same... they are in contention for bannishment.

The classic double standard.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Mr. Demeanor on March 01, 2005, 05:23:41 PM
Now your calling me a pussy huh. Your bikes probably faster than mine in the 9/10's. Its set up for that. I could care less. I would bet that most of the bikes on this site are faster than mine. When I do show up down there, and I plan to, we will discuss that pussy comment.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Phantom13 on March 01, 2005, 05:30:30 PM
Powerstroke- Didn't call you a pussy, just said you pussied out. Hope to see you soon.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Randor-B on March 01, 2005, 07:08:38 PM
Quote from: Phantom12
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FK- They will never attack one of their own... regardless.

That's bullshit, seen many people call each other out. You've been here what, a whole month???? :roll:

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They won't rag on Todd for using someone else's ticket... or being the biggest magazine racer of all time.... Oh I'm sorry, that's the wrong term... you guys use "Research King", right? LMFAO!

And you're the totally unbiased, reliable source of data??? Again... :roll:


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They won't rag on 02SE for not posting a GPS to prove he's actually been fast.

I think he already covered this with you, but here it goes again.....You're opinion means NOTHING!!!!

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They won't rag on Powerstroke for pussying out when I challenged him to a race for talking shit.

Did he say he was going to race you??? If he did, line'em up. If he didn't, then drop it.

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They won't rag on all the modified 170rwhp Busa's that got their asses handed to them by ICEMAN on a stock Busa.

Why would someone rag on someone else for loosing a race?? You even said that he is a great racer. Nobody ragged on you for loosing to him.

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They are a pack of jackals that like to team up and talk shit to anyone who opposes their views or opinions. It's always the same people.... if one of them gets into an argument... the rest come and hijack the thread with constant bashing ... feeding each other continuously.

Apparently the constant bashing is what's required in your case. You think your bike is the best....good for you. That's your perogative. What about the constant bashing coming from you because of others opinion?? I'm sure you didn't expect that coming onto a Hayabusa site.  :roll:

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Of course... Admin turns a blind eye to them because they are Busa owners attacking Ninja owners... and that's "OK". But when the Ninja guys do the same... they are in contention for bannishment.

You can quit with the pity card. Are you banned??? You didn't get banned even with the overwhelming response to have you banned. Quit crying!!

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The classic double standard.

Where's the double standard? What is it that some are getting and others are not???
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: gm1300 on March 01, 2005, 08:40:01 PM
crybaby12 said
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They won't rag on Todd for using someone else's ticket... or being the biggest magazine racer of all time.... Oh I'm sorry, that's the wrong term... you guys use "Research King", right? LMFAO!

They won't rag on GM1300 for never having owned a Busa or any fast bike...

They won't rag on 02SE for not posting a GPS to prove he's actually been fast.

They won't rag on Powerstroke for pussying out when I challenged him to a race for talking shit.

They won't rag on all the modified 170rwhp Busa's that got their asses handed to them by ICEMAN on a stock Busa.

They won't rag on Oilheadron for repeatedly making excuses as to why he won't race me.. or why he won't post a GPS showing anything worth looking at.

They won't rag on GND111 for never having topped out his Busa...or the fact that when he tried to top it out... he pussied out at 170.

They won't rag on TWISTED for talking shit... when he himself only has a bone stocker that he doesn't race.




                   waaahhhhhh   waaaaaaahhhhh   wahhhhhhhhhh !





quit crying like an infant

if this board sucks so much then why are you here ?



.
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: gm1300 on March 01, 2005, 09:01:46 PM
PS

YES PLEASE GET THE FUCK OUT NOW   70%  [ 87 ]


remember the title of this thread




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Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Todd on March 01, 2005, 11:21:49 PM
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Crybaby12


:lol2:

:cry:"Those Busa people are mean to me.":cry:
(http://www.qsl.net/n5mya/crybaby.jpg)


 :lmao:
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Todd on March 01, 2005, 11:42:40 PM
(http://www.qsl.net/n5mya/zx12-owners.gif)
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: gnd111 on March 02, 2005, 12:07:27 AM
Quote from: Phantom12
FK- They will never attack one of their own... regardless.


They won't rag on GND111 for never having topped out his Busa...or the fact that when he tried to top it out... he pussied out at 170.

They won't rag on TWISTED for talking shit... when he himself only has a bone stocker that he doesn't race.


They are a pack of jackals that like to team up and talk shit to anyone who opposes their views or opinions. It's always the same people.... if one of them gets into an argument... the rest come and hijack the thread with constant bashing ... feeding each other continuously.

Of course... Admin turns a blind eye to them because they are Busa owners attacking Ninja owners... and that's "OK". But when the Ninja guys do the same... they are in contention for bannishment.

The classic double standard.


I have attacked people on this board before that are Busa owners - once again you are wrong.

As far as pussies go - in 02 i was riding a VX800 with a top speed of 120 - the Busa was a hell of a big jump for me and i did pussy out at 176 - as i said Phantom - MUCH has changed since then.  Maybe it would be better if we didn't meet as i have no patience for shit talk face to face or any patience for excuses - and my temper is very bad as well.  One of my better attributes if i must say so myself... :twisted:

It's a Busa site so admin will do what it wants - deal or leave.  And many people on this board have owned or do own or will own 12R's and they are very welcome - F and P are the only ones getting dogged.

And if Suzuki doesn't do the Busa justice for 06 and Kawasaki does do the 12R justice then i may be a 12R owner myself but untill then the Busa/12 debate is just like the Mustang/Camaro debat of old...
Title: WHO WANTS PHANTOM12 TO GO HOME
Post by: Phantom13 on March 02, 2005, 03:49:30 PM
GM1300/Todd- Nobody's crying, I was just sharing my view on things here. If I felt hurt or victimized in any way... I would have left a long time ago. I have MUCH thicker skin than you give me credit for....

I do however love the fact that you had nothing to say in response to my opinions on the two of you.... GM1300, you verywell know you're a wannabe that doesn't even own a fast bike of any kind. Todd, you didn't deny the fact that even your own think of you as soley a magazine racer.

All you can do is say I'm crying? LMFAO! Great comeback guys.... you sure set me straight that time. I would have thought that you guys would come out and deny it... but you proved me wrong and didn't contest my views of you. Interesting.....


RANDOR-B:

I never claimed to be an unbias source of data... but I do tell all sides of a story. Todd has a reknown talent for taking things out of context in favor of the Busa, regardless of the issue... he'll find a way to shine the light on the good and dim out the bad.

As for 02SE not caring about my opinion... that's all fine and dandy, but why is it that he'll stop to no end to prove me wrong or put me down on every thread... yet he neglects this golden opportunity to prove he's not just a bench racer? I don't buy it. If he could post a GPS reading that would shut me up... he'd do it in a heartbeat. That's like telling a blackbelt that he's a wimp... then refusing to show YOUR credentials when called out... then giving the excuse, "I don't respect you enough to show you my blackbelt". It's clearly bullshit.... anyone who's ever made it beyond the 5th grade knows this tactic... it's called a bluff.

As for Powerstroke... he badmouthed my 12r, so I challenged him to a race since he's rather close to me. Appearently, he's a "sport tourer" and not a racer. You'd think that if you badmouthed someone's bike, you should and/or would be willing to back it up. Not this guy.

As for me losing to ICEMAN on the stocker... I do believe EVERYONE here ragged on me for it.. and I mean everyone. Repeatedly I might add. Not that it's a big deal... doesn't bother me much seeing as how everyone who talked shit, wouldn't be able to beat that stocker either. My point was that everyone emphisized that I lost to a stock busa.... while ignoring the fact that all the piped busa's out there were losing just as bad to ICEMAN on his stocker. It's obviously not an issue if a bunch of 170rwhp piped busa's lose to a stock Busa... but if the piped ZX loses... it's a huge deal!!

As for "bashing" being what I needed, that's bullshit. I wanted to debate, as in a battle of conflicting opinions.... not a flame war. It seemed like I'd make my point, then everyone would jump it and flame me with insults. When they did address my factual points... they responded with bias opinion rather than fact. When they did respond with facts, they were always out of context!!

Oh, and I'm not playing the pitty card. I was simply stating how the jackals were allowed to run free with vulgar insults and cursing... without so much as a blink for admin, but when I sit there and keep my composure and oppose their views in a civil manner... Admin starts a "Who wants Phantom12 to go home?" POLL!!!!!  

If that's not a double standard... I don't know what is.

I don't even want to think about the flak I would have gotten if I had returned fire with cursing and personal insults like everyone else.

GND111- You keep saying, "Much has changed since then".. but I don't see any proof of that. I don't see a 200mph GPS reading from you.... not even a 180mph reading. Don't TELL me you can do it.... SHOW me. I can sit here and say I won't chicken out at 250mph... but until I've been put in that situation, nobody knows for sure.

We both know your bike has the power to pull 200mph on GPS in little over a mile... (with the proper gearing), so there's no excuses as to why you haven't done it already.

If you don't want to meet me face to face due to your lack of patience... that only shows how mentally weak you are. Gotta have thick skin to be a racer...

Violence is the crutch of the mentally defeated.

I've been working security at a club/bar for the past couple years.... I've run into a lot of "Tough guys".... the ones that talk all big and bad are usually the ones that go down the easiest. They are also the the ones with the least class.