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GENERAL => BIKE TALK => Topic started by: •Khandy•Rhed•Bhusa• on June 30, 2005, 12:58:12 AM
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Must be a 2005 Gsxr1000. Bike should stock pipe, stock sprocket. I have stock pipe, stock sprocket. Race will be for fun. Or 100$ for a little more fun best 2 out of 3. Race from dig, 40 roll on, 70 roll on. If bike is modded, it should not have more than an aftermarket pipe.
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if the guy on the gixxer can ride, you prolly wont have much fun.... :?
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Depending on both rider's weight and skills,he could have plenty fun. :wink:
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my guess on those races would be (all riders skill being equal)
from a dig - Busa will pull because of the torque and the GSXR will have a hard time keeping the front end down
from a 40MPH roll - Busa will pull because (see above) and gearing
from a 70mph roll - the GSXR will pull the Busa because of less weight and better speed for it's gearing.
But, that is bench racing at it's finest right there...lol
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Depending on both rider's weight and skills,he could have plenty fun. :wink:
Ditto... A lot of it (if not all) will come down to the rider. :D
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I would like to see this race. Go over to Gixxer.com and lay down the same offer, I bet you would have a couple takers.
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It would be nice to see one of the magazines do a test like the did with the ZX12R vs the Busa in 2003 but use the 12R, Busa, GSXR10000 and ZX10R in the 1/4 mile and maybe from 0 to 186MPH tests.
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sweet good advise. Today after work I will sign up. At first I did not have to worry about the front coming up in first on wot unless I wanted it to. Now I have to be worry about the front coming up on its own in first and second, or at best keep it down enough so the front tires skims the pavement and handle bars move left and right. But anywill it will be fun. if it is possible to record, it will. and oh, I plan to OUTRUN the gsxr from 70 and up :)
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I ride them both and I can tell you, that gixxer is "Evil"! I wouldn't bet any hard earned cash on the busa? Expecially from a rolling start.
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yeah but see the thing is, I am in my power band EVERYWHERE and it will be hard to beat
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yeah but see the thing is, I am in my power band EVERYWHERE and it will be hard to beat
I think you might be surprised, but we'll see.
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05 gixxer :twisted:
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yeah but see the thing is, I am in my power band EVERYWHERE and it will be hard to beat
:lol: I wish you well, I have both, But if your stock, or a few mods, the 1000 is gona roll :twisted:
And what,s your weight?
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I have a video of a 2005 GSX-R1000 and another liter bike running side by side from a 70mph roll. The camera bike is a 2005 LE Hayabusa. The GSX-R (and the other bike) kinda walk from the Hayabusa. The Hayabusa rider is a good bit larger than the 1K riders, and he can't get deep into the acceleration for fear of giving the 1K riders a 100mph enema... but it's a very revealing (very neutral) video.
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the 05 gixxer 1k will walk ANY stock bike out there, BAR NONE.... :yes:
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i am POSSITIVE I will out run it at least 70 and up. I am 180lbs. I know alot of my busa bretheren mike think im crazy, but I know what my stock bike will do. And out run a GSXR1000 2005 it will do.
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you're kidding right :roll:
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nope im not. i would not be this bold if I think I could not
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nope im not. i would not be this bold if I think I could not
I can tell you 1st hand that from anything more than 50mph the new LITER bike will be right beside you till 150mph or slightly ahead...period...
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Man I wish tx was closer, I would buy a 05 1k just to show you and see the look on you're face
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good luck..... youre going to need it.
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i am POSSITIVE I will out run it at least 70 and up. I am 180lbs. I know alot of my busa bretheren mike think im crazy, but I know what my stock bike will do. And out run a GSXR1000 2005 it will do.
I wish we were a little closer, I'd be happy to take your offer. If the price was right, I could be coached into a trip to Cowboy Land. I'm sure your busa will do a bit better on top end and it may slightly out pull a gixxer above 170? but I can assure you, from 50 to 170 you best be praying the gixxer misses a gear? My gixxer will hit 170 before a cat can lick his haunches. At the track, I come out of the bus stop in low gear and I hit 170 at turn one.
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I luv it!!...Time to break out the popcorn :)
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nope im not. i would not be this bold if I think I could not
I can tell you 1st hand that from anything more than 50mph the new LITER bike will be right beside you till 150mph or slightly ahead...period...
the gixxer will walk it right up to the speed restrictors... been there, done it, twice, not pretty for the busa as the lead was fairly substantial, not only does the gixxer get away better, it continues to pull on the busa all the way to the limiter...
I am not sure if a poorly broken in gixxer will fair as well with a properly broken in busa but if both are broken in properly the busa cant get there, and I am not sure why you would expect it to? the gixxer has a bit more pull with less rotating mass, less wind resistance, and has a hunnerd pounds less fat?
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I can tell you 1st hand that from anything more than 50mph the new LITER bike will be right beside you till 150mph or slightly ahead...period...[/quote]
the gixxer will walk it right up to the speed restrictors... been there, done it, twice, not pretty for the busa as the lead was fairly substantial, not only does the gixxer get away better, it continues to pull on the busa all the way to the limiter...
I am not sure if a poorly broken in gixxer will fair as well with a properly broken in busa but if both are broken in properly the busa cant get there, and I am not sure why you would expect it to? the gixxer has a bit more pull with less rotating mass, less wind resistance, and has a hunnerd pounds less fat?[/quote]
I sure got flamed when I talked of seeing tis happen to me and my buddy on a 12r. Other than a dead start where the 1000s cant launch hard. they will tow a busa till the speeds get nasty. I still have my busa and am keeping it. sj
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i am POSSITIVE I will out run it at least 70 and up. I am 180lbs. I know alot of my busa bretheren mike think im crazy, but I know what my stock bike will do. And out run a GSXR1000 2005 it will do.
I tell you what, I am in East Texas, 20 min south of Tyler, Im off on Vaction for the next 3 weeks, Im 220 pounds, and 6,4, I will meet you half way, like around Livingston on HWY 59, You have your stock busa with a tank full of gas, Let me have a gallon of gas in mine, Roll on from 2nd at 80 MPH, Pm me when/where/date, Lets not talk about time out in the open, Im a preacher so no betting :) and I will not race from a dead stand still(or 1st), The thing lifts the front wheel to easy, It,s Bone stock, and right before dark when it,s cool outside,
whats up?
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Must be a 2005 Gsxr1000. Bike should stock pipe, stock sprocket. I have stock pipe, stock sprocket. Race will be for fun. Or 100$ for a little more fun best 2 out of 3. Race from dig, 40 roll on, 70 roll on. If bike is modded, it should not have more than an aftermarket pipe.
You say you your bike has a stock pipe and stock sprockets.....is the rest of the bike showroom stock?
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No I dont want to start any popcorn stuff lol I am just confident and curious about this. I will say this, I am listening to what you guys are saying sounds like it may be quicker than I think, well it may. Please I am all for 'being brought back to reality' if it will beat me. I promise I wont cry lol. but in the event that it does get me from at least 70mph, I think you guys will be surprise how close the distance is between the 2. btw the only mods i have is airbox mod, map from Quasar, and TRE.
Thank u Kid Quick I will pm u in a bit.
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i am POSSITIVE I will out run it at least 70 and up. I am 180lbs. I know alot of my busa bretheren mike think im crazy, but I know what my stock bike will do. And out run a GSXR1000 2005 it will do.
I tell you what, I am in East Texas, 20 min south of Tyler, Im off on Vaction for the next 3 weeks, Im 220 pounds, and 6,4, I will meet you half way, like around Livingston on HWY 59, You have your stock busa with a tank full of gas, Let me have a gallon of gas in mine, Roll on from 2nd at 80 MPH, Pm me when/where/date, Lets not talk about time out in the open, Im a preacher so no betting :) and I will not race from a dead stand still(or 1st), The thing lifts the front wheel to easy, It,s Bone stock, and right before dark when it,s cool outside,
whats up?
And no hitting in the face or below the belt.
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LoL ^
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I can tell you 1st hand that from anything more than 50mph the new LITER bike will be right beside you till 150mph or slightly ahead...period...
the gixxer will walk it right up to the speed restrictors... been there, done it, twice, not pretty for the busa as the lead was fairly substantial, not only does the gixxer get away better, it continues to pull on the busa all the way to the limiter...
I am not sure if a poorly broken in gixxer will fair as well with a properly broken in busa but if both are broken in properly the busa cant get there, and I am not sure why you would expect it to? the gixxer has a bit more pull with less rotating mass, less wind resistance, and has a hunnerd pounds less fat?[/quote]
I sure got flamed when I talked of seeing tis happen to me and my buddy on a 12r. Other than a dead start where the 1000s cant launch hard. they will tow a busa till the speeds get nasty. I still have my busa and am keeping it. sj[/quote]
stock busas and stock gixxers have the same top end speed, 186... the gixxer gets there quicker, no two ways about it, I ran a copper a few weeks ago across the I-90 floating bridge, we both hit in 3rd at around 70 indicated, I gave him the hit and he pulled about a half length untill the secondaries kicked in and I passed him like he had a 12, we ran through the gears and in about a miles legnth I put at least an eighth mile on him, the orange special I raced faired worse but I suspect pilot errors?
I also must say that my stock gixxer dynoed 154.5 at a dyno shootout recently and on that same dyno and same day piped 04 and 05 gixxers, R-1s, and tens were getting 144-148...
the only other bikes to come close to me were two 04 R-1s one with slip ons, stacks, and filter went 153 the other with full system, pc-3, box mod block off went 155, he was winner...
two other 05 gixxers with systems and pc-3s mapped got 144 and 145....
I guess there is a lot to be said about break in procedure?
BV wants to run and tape it, I'm always down... I dont do digs as stock gixxer clutches suck for launching so it will most likely be a roll, rolls eliminate much of the skill needed for digs anyways so we can get right down to power and aeroes....
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No I dont want to start any popcorn stuff lol I am just confident and curious about this. I will say this, I am listening to what you guys are saying sounds like it may be quicker than I think, well it may. Please I am all for 'being brought back to reality' if it will beat me. I promise I wont cry lol. but in the event that it does get me from at least 70mph, I think you guys will be surprise how close the distance is between the 2. btw the only mods i have is airbox mod, map from Quasar, and TRE.
Thank u Kid Quick I will pm u in a bit.
thats not stock, and if you have a map from quasar wouldnt you have a power commander? and if you have a power commander wouldnt you have a pipe? hmmm... whats the real deal?
stock means no tre no nuttin, stock is as it came off the floor, well maybe the mudflap/reflector mod is OK... :D
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Go get'em Hayaboosta! :twisted: Let's see what that Quasar map can do. No new '05 1000 owner should be afraid of a weak little Busa with PC and a small box mod. I would like to see a race between more equal weights. The 1000 must run a full tank of gas and the Busa as little as possible, and lets get some equally weighted riders. :wink:
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Yep, it should be a fair run between me and Twisted , if he can pull on me consistantly I will believe it.
Although I have no doubt that the Gixxer can pull on a Busa anyways, id still like to know for sure.
Twisted got a 154.5 on the same Dyno, the same day my bike got a 158.5 (I have a Yosh system and PC3)...just given that, the HP/weight ratio is definately higher on the K5.
I weigh about 175.
For the record there was a stock 05' Busa there that pulled a 154.9 and another basically stock 03' that pulled a 153.7....any way you slice it you might as well call them equal ..the Gixxer and Busa now have about the same power output.
So now youve just got a heavier Busa with a larger displacement engine with more torque vs the Gixxer K5 which really has a similar powerband but its up higher. The width is about the same though.
It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out the K5 must be a tad quicker. Though I am sure gearing plays a role too, not really sure how the gearing differs between these two bikes.
I do know if I went down a tooth up front that id get a bit quicker.
Is your gearing stock Twisted?
Anyways...
So if he pulls on me 2 out of 3 times or so then it will certainly end any wondering I have.
Id like to meet somewhere between Bellingham and Seattle since I live in Bellingham...are you sure that place you talked about in the PMs is good? No popo?
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Must be a 2005 Gsxr1000. Bike should stock pipe, stock sprocket. I have stock pipe, stock sprocket. Race will be for fun. Or 100$ for a little more fun best 2 out of 3. Race from dig, 40 roll on, 70 roll on. If bike is modded, it should not have more than an aftermarket pipe.
I wish I lived closer.I have a 05 K5 and weigh about 145.I have a pc3 USB and will put a aftermarket pipe on it in a couple of weeks.I also have a stock busa.The K5 outruns it to the "staged" limiter with ease.These little fuckers are fast.I have a ZX-10 that with equal weight riders,does it also, if both are stock.
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two other 05 gixxers with systems and pc-3s mapped got 144 and 145....
I guess there is a lot to be said about break in procedure?
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Yours got a 154.5.
Nope, no way 10hp difference between different beak-ins. At least I dont buy it. Did you forget about the K5 that pulled a 152.8?
I left early to go riding with some other guys , are you sure 2 other K5s got a 144 and 145? My guess is the Dyno got inconsistant or something towards the end of the day.
There is no way any good running stock Busa would have gotten anything below a 150 on that Dyno.
IMO that Dyno is very accurate , maybe lean by just a few HP but not much , my Busa would probably get 175-185hp @ George Dean's . :lol: I think his ram air is a tad generous. Actually I dont think it is, I know it is...no stock Busa puts out 165.8hp. Even though I am still probably going to let George dyno tune my bike since he is the Suzuki guy in town. :)
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two other 05 gixxers with systems and pc-3s mapped got 144 and 145....
Sounds like mapping by Dr. Turbo.They must have had defective kanooter valves. :D :D
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Must be a 2005 Gsxr1000. Bike should stock pipe, stock sprocket. I have stock pipe, stock sprocket. Race will be for fun. Or 100$ for a little more fun best 2 out of 3. Race from dig, 40 roll on, 70 roll on. If bike is modded, it should not have more than an aftermarket pipe.
I wish I lived closer.I have a 05 K5 and weigh about 145.I have a pc3 USB and will put a aftermarket pipe on it in a couple of weeks.I also have a stock busa.The K5 outruns it to the "staged" limiter with ease.These little fuckers are fast.I have a ZX-10 that with equal weight riders,does it also, if both are stock.
If its really "with ease" then Suzkuki knows this as well....I am sure they will want their Busa back on top, after all the Gixxer is a track bike its not supposed to beat the Busa in quickness and speed. :)
My guess is that at some point Suzuki will once again crown the Busa king of quickness.
At least they better if they want to keep selling them at the same rate. IMO guys buy the Busa for quickness and speed first, everything else comes second.
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The stock Hayabusa dyno'd about 154 on my dyno,The ZX-10 with a PC3 USB is about the same.The K5 is slightly more.My ZX-10 was 151 box stock with a thousand miles at a dyno fest in Vegas.Equal weight riders gives it to the liter bikes.
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My Busa 540/158hp = 3.41:1 weight/hp ratio
Gixxer K5 420/155hp = 2.7:1 weight/hp ratio
Not to go OT too much but what if a Busa has a 1400CC kit and a little head work? Stock cams and everything else except a pipe and PC3.
Isnt this good for about 30hp?
540/188hp = 2.87:1 ..still not the same as the K5.
BUT: 540/200 = 2.7:1 though. :D What all would I need to get 200hp naturally aspirated or is this not realistic?
Id alway want it to be a durable street bike so no boring down the block to death. :)
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Talk to Dave O or Dennis for that.I'm a turbo guy :D :D .
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Just for fun I ran a few numbers:
Say Suzuki knocked 50lbs off the Busa, bringing it to a wet weight of
490lbs, then put an engine in that puts out 185hp.
That would bring a...
2.64:1 power to weight ratio! 8)
Its amazing what knocking off a little weight COMBINED with adding some power does!!
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Talk to Dave O or Dennis for that.I'm a turbo guy :D :D .
Ok, well can I get 50K out of a turboed engine or is that asking for too much? :)
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Must be a 2005 Gsxr1000. Bike should stock pipe, stock sprocket. I have stock pipe, stock sprocket. Race will be for fun. Or 100$ for a little more fun best 2 out of 3. Race from dig, 40 roll on, 70 roll on. If bike is modded, it should not have more than an aftermarket pipe.
I live south of the woodlands. I have a buddy with a 2005 1K that will take you up on that offer. Let me know and we can set something up.
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Yes PhantomBusa we can set something up. How about Wednesday we can do something. Great to see you are close. Twisted, I dont have a pipe, they are stock not moddified pipes, but yes for the map I have a power commander, and only box mod and TRE. yeah its not BONE STOCK but I guess it can 'stock' :-)
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Yes PhantomBusa we can set something up. How about Wednesday we can do something. Great to see you are close. Twisted, I dont have a pipe, they are stock not moddified pipes, but yes for the map I have a power commander, and only box mod and TRE. yeah its not BONE STOCK but I guess it can 'stock' :-)
I'll call my bud, and see if he can do it on Wednesday. I'll hit ya back if we can get it on.
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I wish you guys the best, and stock means Stock, No PC3R, Air box mod or a Tre, Does having a Quasar Map make you think that you can take out a K5 1K? :lol:
Well I have a Busa tuned by Johnneycheese, It looks almost stock, On the outside It has a BDE/Hindle/Polished and lowered, On the In side lets just say it makes a Hell of alot of HP, and
JohnneyCheese has given me the big head to, :twisted: 1397 worth. :shock:
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I saw at least 3 piped literbikes get low 140 numbers, only saw two others get mid 150s like I said, as far as the dyno getting funky later on my bike was dead last and my buddies R-1 that did 153 was just before me...
the I-90 bridge is an excellant place for rolls, its about 10ft above the water, you can see all the way across so if there is company you will know it and there is no where for popo to hide or pull in, at the end of the bridge you enter a tunnel, its all good....
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Well, I have a brock pipe and power commander. I raced a k5 a few weeks ago and pulled him pretty good. We went from a 50 roll , a stop, and slow roll. Every time he would jump me by about 2 lengths then I would slowly pass him. It was worse on the interstate.
He was a pretty cool guy, he stopped and chatted awhile afterwards. It seemed like he was pretty surprised. I weigh like 150 and he was about 180ish.
Jonathan
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Can I watch? 8)
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Stock gearing
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way to go Zmydust. Yes to whoever mentioned that I think Quasars map will allow me to take on a K5. Well, we will see. Oh btw Wednesday I am getting a real nice video camera mount. I have a nice digital JVC that I bought before the year and NEVER thought to use it on the Busa until yesterday. Located here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4558997316&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
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Well, I have a brock pipe and power commander. I raced a k5 a few weeks ago and pulled him pretty good. We went from a 50 roll , a stop, and slow roll. Every time he would jump me by about 2 lengths then I would slowly pass him. It was worse on the interstate.
He was a pretty cool guy, he stopped and chatted awhile afterwards. It seemed like he was pretty surprised. I weigh like 150 and he was about 180ish.
Jonathan
Only thing is your busa lost about 30 pounds+ pipe/airbox mod adds 10-12HP then add in your 150 pounds, It woud Have been a better race with you on the GSXR, But you would have still one with the GSXR,
Hayaboosta03, Im not trying to be a smart guy, But there is no way a stock busa can outrun a K5, Unless the owner cannot RIDE/ Or there is a big weight differance.
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Royce, just keep in mind that Zmy only weighs 150 pounds to your 180 pounds and Zmy is running a roughly 20 pound lighter exhaust system than you. So, he basically had 50 less pounds of mass to accelerate than you. Even so, there were points where that pesky 05 GSXR1000 rider did poke out in front of him. That's already cutting it close especially considering Zmy ran 50 pounds lighter than you will. Make sure you run with a nearly empty fuel tank to reduce your weight (and hope the 05 GSXR1000 rider hasn't done the same).
Also keep in mind, the next 05 GSXR1000 rider may weigh less than the 180ish pound rider that Zmy went up against. I'm not trying to bring you down and I naturally want to see you the victor however, at this point in the horsepower to weight ratio game, every extra pound is another monkey on your back when trying to accelerate your mass against aggressively fast competition. :yes:
Are you certain you're not interested in some lower gearing?
Stock for Stock right :roll:
Quasar, you beat me to it, :wink: And Be carefull with the Camera on the bike, if the popo catches you with it they can use it in court, If you see lights, get rid of the tape.
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I will keep that in mind about the camera, I wont have the mount on it in time for the race though. The camera is a verticle one JVC GR-DX77U so probably will be harder to access the tape from bike. I will be very careful thanks!
Quasar the lower gearing sounds good and sure enough would give me an edge in the race but I would hate the feeling that something would bly by me in a race when I am pegged at 182mph :( I love top end too much to sacrifice it. I do ofcourse thank you for the advice.
Ok so I am not going into this thinking I will kick a 2005gix ass flat out. But now see how fast this bike is, and how well I fair against it. I just want to show us Busa boys not to be afraid of our little brother! ahaha ok j/k
But I am just too confident I know I pull hard at 80 ^ in 3rd gear alone, imagine 2nd gear. But thanks for shrinking my head guys lol j/k I am still down with the race PhantomBusa may set up and let you guys know the outcome either way.
++BREAKING NEWS++
My little brother called me and is trying to setup a race with his friend's brother he has a Ducati. He said for money, so I said yeah just to see what they are trying to pull. They did not get ahold of him and said he would call me back.
So now I get alittle worried why would they want a Ducati to run me. I planned to do some research on Ducati's but I am replying to this thread lol. So he calls back and I ask what is done to the bike and he says it has nitrous or in his words 'NOS' Im like yeah right I am smart enough to know not to run him.
I gave the word that I know I could not run him in a short distance but I will run him top end or like a mile. But now I am thinking damn. Not sure if the body work would allow him to go my speed but Im sure I will be told that he will rape me with No2.
Hey why is everybody picking on me?! AHAHAHAHA bring it on!
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^^ UH! whatcha think about that?! But wow you are LIGHT. Lets see, the most I could get down to will be 163 but that will take 2 months.
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Hmm Twisted has not gotten back to me.. we were gonna go at it my Busa with a pipe and PC3 against his Gixxer K5.
I kinda expect to lose but I really want to see it , if he wins I will glady admit defeat.
Though I think we will have to discuss a more fair roll on speed...a middle ground somewhere so that we are both near our power band start.
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I have done some roll ons from 70 with a zx10 and a 05 gixxer and pull both of them.. I pulled zx10 a little harder than the gixxer ...My busa is stone stock and i mean stock, no pipe or pc .... I will add that i only weigh in at 125 pounds ... I'm sure that helps... I have a friend with an 04 gixxer piped and pc and another friend with a pipe and pc 05 gixxer ...The 04 gixxer pulled the 05, not by a bunch but it did win.... I did a 5th gear roll on with another 05 gixxer with my turbo kawi ... Let just say he lost like he was chained to a tree ... :lol: Yes the gixxer is lighter and make around the same hp ...But the busa make tons of torq .. and torq is what moves you ...I really think this race will come down to the riders.... :?:
I believe it , because of your weight and the starting speed , @ 70 the Busa can really launch hard.
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^^ UH! whatcha think about that?! But wow you are LIGHT. Lets see, the most I could get down to will be 163 but that will take 2 months.
Hey put the race off till next spring ...I'm moving back to Austin TX and would be happy to ride your Busa to a win !! :D
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I am starting now - loosing weight. Barely eat at all, and drink lots of Nestea or Lipton lemonade tea mix and water. I am gonna starve myself for the title of the win. And 1300hemi there could be another shot at it. Then for sure I can say MY bike beat a 2005gix :lol:
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Hmm Twisted has not gotten back to me.. we were gonna go at it my Busa with a pipe and PC3 against his Gixxer K5.
I kinda expect to lose but I really want to see it , if he wins I will glady admit defeat.
Though I think we will have to discuss a more fair roll on speed...a middle ground somewhere so that we are both near our power band start.
didnt know you were trying to get in touch?
I am ready whenever cept 7/6-7/14...
got an R-1 that wants a peice too, he dynoed 153 just before me, maybe we should line em up deep? :shock:
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he wants to race a sprayed busa with a literbike? hmmm? a wizard hes not soon to be :?
th 30 shot busa on this dyno went 188 if I remember right...
there was an R-1 graves system at the dyno shootout, he didnt fair too well like 148? must be a bad map?
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how would the R1 fair against the 10r. last year the guy on the 10 yanked him but his friend said he was taking it easy cause of all the R1 new motor probs. the guy on the 10 that was even with me is 30-40lbs lighter than the R1 guy who is 30-40 less than me.
this is the way I see it, with the exception of honda the 3 jap liter bikes are so close that break in could play a major role, a properly broken in 05 10 could pull a poorly broken in 05 gixxer, that simple, the only real advantage for the gixxer is the induction system, it seems to have given the advantage back in WSB? but how many clowns on the street can reaaly exploit the new liter bike potentiol anyways? most seem to need a pemission slip from home to go past a hunnerd, and I notice some cant ride past dawn... :?
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For whatever it's worth? My son and I both have K5 gixxers and I also have an 05 busa LE. Both bikes stock except my busa has a 43T rear sprocket. We took them out today and had a little fun to see just which one pulls harder. We didn't do any standing starts. We did the roll on thing in second gear from 40 mph up to 165 mph. We did the second gear thing because in 1st gear the K5 is difficult to keep on the ground. It seems the K5 was good for about two bike lengths on the busa. Pretty consistent! If the busa had stock gearing I think the K5 would probably have gained another two bike lengths? But these two beasts are extremely fast and just so damn close in performance it's hardly noticeable. I acturally thought the K5 would do better since it feels like it pulls harder but now I'm convinced it's just my imagination?
Both of us weigh in at 190 pounds, 200 pounds fully leathered. Both have good skills and we milked both machines for all we could muster. I have a 44T sprocket on my K5, so next time I think we'll run my gixxer and see what results we have with both bikes geared about the same?
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For whatever it's worth? My son and I both have K5 gixxers and I also have an 05 busa LE. Both bikes stock except my busa has a 43T rear sprocket. We took them out today and had a little fun to see just which one pulls harder. We didn't do any standing starts. We did the roll on thing in second gear from 40 mph up to 165 mph. We did the second gear thing because in 1st gear the K5 is difficult to keep on the ground. It seems the K5 was good for about two bike lengths on the busa. Pretty consistent! If the busa had stock gearing I think the K5 would probably have gained another two bike lengths? But these two beasts are extremely fast and just so damn close in performance it's hardly noticeable. I acturally thought the K5 would do better since it feels like it pulls harder but now I'm convinced it's just my imagination?
Both of us weigh in at 190 pounds, 200 pounds fully leathered. Both have good skills and we milked both machines for all we could muster. I have a 44T sprocket on my K5, so next time I think we'll run my gixxer and see what results we have with both bikes geared about the same?
the best roll is in 3rd @ 65 indicated, no wheelie probs and the busa can exploit some torque on the bottom and the gixxer some HP up top, when you add wheelstand into the mix skill becomes a variable as well?
basically you have two different machines designed to do two different things...
the busa is heavy an meant for sport touring, so it has a lot of torque to lug its fat ass around effortlessly...
the gixxer is intended to be track bike, with cornering and straightaway speed in mind...
no doubt they are both designed to go fast...
better off racing literbikes with literbikes and busa with busas
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Hmm Twisted has not gotten back to me.. we were gonna go at it my Busa with a pipe and PC3 against his Gixxer K5.
I kinda expect to lose but I really want to see it , if he wins I will glady admit defeat.
Though I think we will have to discuss a more fair roll on speed...a middle ground somewhere so that we are both near our power band start.
we should throw in a few mixtures of speed and gear selections, either way I am at a disadvantage with all the torque the busa puts out, I have to wait a second till the gixxer fires up that second set of injectors, dont get nervous if I am all over the place their really isnt any weight on the front of the gixxer till you chop it so I have to body steer it, and there is an expansion joint at the end of the eastbound express lane I will get airborne @ 186... :shock:
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there is an expansion joint at the end of the eastbound express lane I will get airborne @ 186...
:D :D :D
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basically you have two different machines designed to do two different things...
the busa is heavy an meant for sport touring, so it has a lot of torque to lug its fat ass around effortlessly...
the gixxer is intended to be track bike, with cornering and straightaway speed in mind...
no doubt they are both designed to go fast...
better off racing literbikes with literbikes and busa with busas
Uh, no its not for lugging its fat ass around Twisted.
The Busa was made first to be fast as fvck, that was the sole intended goal. Suzuki wanted the fastest bike in the world to carry their name on it and it happened. Torque brings the bike to speed faster, the extra weight lends itself to the stability at speed.
Put a Turbo in a K5 and see how that chasis holds up @ 225mph. :D
While you are are all over the road trying to keep you K5 going in a straight line I am able to tuck in and take her easy, just hold it WOT and she goes stable as hell.
What are you going to do when a 70mph crosswind hits your Gixxer on hwy 20 @ speed? A wind like that could likely blow you off the road.
The K5 was not made for straight line speed as much as the Busa was IMO.
I hit up some nice long 45mph sweepers today @ 120mph + and did a few nice straight line runs. I gotta say I just love the Busa, it handles these kind of roads like a dream.
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For whatever it's worth? My son and I both have K5 gixxers and I also have an 05 busa LE. Both bikes stock except my busa has a 43T rear sprocket. We took them out today and had a little fun to see just which one pulls harder. We didn't do any standing starts. We did the roll on thing in second gear from 40 mph up to 165 mph. We did the second gear thing because in 1st gear the K5 is difficult to keep on the ground. It seems the K5 was good for about two bike lengths on the busa. Pretty consistent! If the busa had stock gearing I think the K5 would probably have gained another two bike lengths? But these two beasts are extremely fast and just so damn close in performance it's hardly noticeable. I acturally thought the K5 would do better since it feels like it pulls harder but now I'm convinced it's just my imagination?
Both of us weigh in at 190 pounds, 200 pounds fully leathered. Both have good skills and we milked both machines for all we could muster. I have a 44T sprocket on my K5, so next time I think we'll run my gixxer and see what results we have with both bikes geared about the same?
Wow , you took out your Busa! :D
I wonder how that went for you since you have been riding your K5 so much.? I bet your forgot how nice the Busa is! ;)
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Still trying to get ahold of my buddy. What I can say about him, is that he is an excelant rider. He takes out stock Busas all day long with that pesky 051K. There's something about his riding skills, I dunno what it is. We paired up, he on his 05, me on my 031K, 70MPH roll, he took me by several lengths. We switched bikes, me on his 05, and he on my 03, he walked me again! I just cant see how he beat me with the 03 against his 05. I was tucked as low as I could get, had the throttle pined, and he walked on me. I like to snuff his pride with the 02 Turbo Busa :lol: he gets pissed off all the time,,,, I know this thread is mainly about the 1K, but let me tell ya, there's nothing like a Turbo Busa.
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Oh, by the way, I need to know what time on Wednesday you want to hook up. Im working night shift, so Id like to do it during the day if it's possible. If not, I may not be able to witness the race. He may show with some other guys ( IF) he can make it.
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Well, we can meet up like at the Woodlands mall, or Sams Boat in the woodlands. theres bikes outside of SB. How about 5-7pm somewhere in between there meet up? Just let me know, we can always do it soon another day when he can make it.
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Speaking of Sam's boat and that area, does anyone know who works at the Home Depot on Research Road and I-45, owns the Red/Silver 2000 Busa (with the torn seat) that is so often parked in front by the electric entrance doors?
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Speaking of Sam's boat and that area, does anyone know who works at the Home Depot on Research Road and I-45, owns the Red/Silver 2000 Busa (with the torn seat) that is so often parked in front by the electric entrance doors?
No sorry I am there in the area everyday since its miles from home, but I could probably find out one day.
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Just curious - I go there a lot and see it nearly every time.
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basically you have two different machines designed to do two different things...
the busa is heavy an meant for sport touring, so it has a lot of torque to lug its fat ass around effortlessly...
the gixxer is intended to be track bike, with cornering and straightaway speed in mind...
no doubt they are both designed to go fast...
better off racing literbikes with literbikes and busa with busas
Uh, no its not for lugging its fat ass around Twisted.
The Busa was made first to be fast as fvck, that was the sole intended goal. Suzuki wanted the fastest bike in the world to carry their name on it and it happened. Torque brings the bike to speed faster, the extra weight lends itself to the stability at speed.
Put a Turbo in a K5 and see how that chasis holds up @ 225mph. :D
While you are are all over the road trying to keep you K5 going in a straight line I am able to tuck in and take her easy, just hold it WOT and she goes stable as hell.
What are you going to do when a 70mph crosswind hits your Gixxer on hwy 20 @ speed? A wind like that could likely blow you off the road.
The K5 was not made for straight line speed as much as the Busa was IMO.
I hit up some nice long 45mph sweepers today @ 120mph + and did a few nice straight line runs. I gotta say I just love the Busa, it handles these kind of roads like a dream.
busa is a sport tourer, its wheelbase, weight and isolated ergonomics will tell you so...
suzuki could have went with a different bore, stroke, and comp ratio for a different power output, but with the busas broad shoulders and heavy ass it needs some torque to lug it around...
the gixxer is a road racing machine, for cornering you must sacrifice some of the comforts of touring such as weight, wheelbase and aeroes, but dont be confused WSB gixxers are rolling down the backstretch at a fair clip without a hitch...
when I ges hit with a crosswind I just roll with it, got blown off the road in death valley, didnt care for it much....
let me know when your down for it...
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I am not saying its not a Sport Tourer...actually its a Hyper Sport Tourer...really its kind of in a class by itself save for the 12R and I would not include the K1200S as IMO it really is just a Sport Tourer.
Anyhow I am glad I kept my Busa vs going to a K5. I ride alot so comfort is important. And the Busa engine is tried and true, proven durable and able to take the mileage and abuse.
Isolated Ergonomics? Ive never heard that term before, what does it mean?
Lets do it today... do you know of a few good spots? You can film it right?
PM me.
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A buddy of mine and I both raced a 10 last year from a 40 roll. It was ugly for the 10. I guess it was the rider. For added insurance I would put some good fuel in it :)
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Ok, I cant seem to get the shit head to answer the phone. Tech is a member of this board, if you see this, tell Tony about the race tomorrow, tell him to call my ass so we can go over it. To the dude that wants the race, PM me your number, just in case I can Reach tony and get it set up. Hell I'll come race you with my 03 1K but I know what the outcome would be. How bout we go double or nothing with me on my 02 Busa?
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Come on with it!! Ima give you 4 bike lengths AND the jump! :shock:
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Come on with it!! Ima give you 4 bike lengths AND the jump! :shock:
You better spray at least a 40 shot to give anyone that deal...
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nah I was just kidding with my last post, I know better than that hehe
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nah I was just kidding with my last post, I know better than that hehe
I will give you 10 lengths and the bump if I bring my Busa, and that's no joke :D
My Buddy has Fallen off the face of the earth I think.. STill can't reach him, so as you know by now, we will not race today. Maybe we can set it up later this week or something,,,, I'll keep trying.
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hey hey take your time. Use it to tune up your bike becuase Im gonna have a field day when time comes. Im gonna RUN away from you ;) and as I stated before, I eat 1397s for lunch, but I can make for for a little desserty like yourself :shock: :)
LETS GET IT ON!
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Well sonny Boy :D , This thread started with you wanting to race a stock Gixxer 05. Now you say 1397s taste good,,,, You have no idea whats comming when The PhantomBusa rolls up... When your bike sees it, and hears mine, It's probably going to start crying real tears and piss on herself...
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...wait hold on....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...
..ahem!.. sorry for that
now umm, BRING IT :twisted: :D
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come on,a little less talk and a lot more action,lets get it on.
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Isolated Ergonomics? Ive never heard that term before, what does it mean?
Lets do it today... do you know of a few good spots? You can film it right?
PM me.
notice how the clip ons and pegs have rubber isolators so you feel less vibration? isolated ergonomics.....
hit me up on the race when the weather is right and I am around....
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come on,a little less talk and a lot more action,lets get it on.
Wel lets see. I am getting the rotor replaced fixed and fork seals replaced within 4 days, so something should be happening soon. Looks like it will have to be Phantombusa, his friend I hope, and hopefully Kid Quick. So dont worry, I will be calling you guys out really soon, wednesday HOPEFULLY. I am not bringing a camera (dont have the mount) just STRAIGHT ass whooping.
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In your first post, you say if bike has mods, it can have no more than an after market pipe. Im going to be honest with you, My Busa does not fit your demands, so you will have to make an exception to your own rules if you want to line up against the Busa. My 1K, Ehhhh! It's just a 03 1K, nothing special. If you want me to bring the 1K, it will be fun, you will win, no big deal. But if you really want to go for money, I will be on the Busa no doubt. Im working on the swing arm right now, so Im not ready either. SO, soon as I get the Busa ready, I'll call you and we can get it on.
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sweet deal keep my number and hit me up. I guess it would not be that fun if you know I will beat your 1k but maybe for fun I dunno we will see.
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sweet deal keep my number and hit me up. I guess it would not be that fun if you know I will beat your 1k but maybe for fun I dunno we will see.
Well if your pretty sure you could beat an 05 1K, I know you would beat my 03 1K.. I have raced against my buddy several times ( 03 VS 05 ), and the 03 just wont do the job. The 05 is one hell of a bike, much better than it's older brothers. I love that bike. Im trying to sale my 03, so I can get me an 05 1K. Id love to get that canadian all black model.
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for the fun of it, like a warm up and comparison lemme run the 03 on wednesday?
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Ok. Im working days, so depending where you want to hook up. It may be close to 8PM before I can get to you. Would you consider comming south of Houston? If not, PM me where you want to hook up and I will ride the 1K to work that day, and just bust out after work.
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thats cool I can meet you exit 63 i believe. Rankin exit. and just have some fun. Also if you ever have a day off, we can go ride route 149 its SWEET ass rode with lots of STRAIGHTS and CURVES even lots of 15-20mph turns. Little to NO side streets. even a GREAT place to drag for real. Cops don't mind us there because so many do it and its secluded. its in Montgomery btw
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here is a sound clip of my bike to give you a sample.
http://host.picturewizard.com/2005-7/348304/Sound/
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Says page cannot be found......
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there you go had to upgrade my plan
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Now that I have heard your bike, Im begining to think my 03 1K will stomp it's ass. :D You have no chance against My Busa, just thought you needed to know. :twisted:
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What's up guys! I just recently moved to The Woodlands and I would to witness this event..Be careful there are alot of factors out there that will make you sick to your stomach dealing with a K5 1000...ALOT OF FACTORS!!!
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like what?
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dbbl
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LMMFAO!!!!! :D :D :D
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here is a sound clip of my bike to give you a sample.
http://host.picturewizard.com/2005-7/348304/Sound/
Looks like you need to turn your idle up about 250 rpm. :oops:
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What's up guys! I just recently moved to The Woodlands and I would to witness this event..Be careful there are alot of factors out there that will make you sick to your stomach dealing with a K5 1000...ALOT OF FACTORS!!!
gottageta9, whats up with the move, Job change or what? good to hear from you.
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like what?
Their frames implode while just sitting there on their kickstands. Grenading aluminum and magnesium fragments will shred your manhood if you are within 4 miles of it.
Best bet in order to avoid all impending doom, is to sign the bikes over to me directly...I will properly dispose of them. :lol:
heheeh thats funny :D
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here is a sound clip of my bike to give you a sample.
http://host.picturewizard.com/2005-7/348304/Sound/
Looks like you need to turn your idle up about 250 rpm. :oops:
Well everytime I do it re adjusts itself to that level. But now I dont have a problem with any stalling at all. I will just bump it up to see in a couple days time
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Now that I have heard your bike, Im begining to think my 03 1K will stomp it's ass. :D You have no chance against My Busa, just thought you needed to know. :twisted:
SWEET!! It does sound better in person, you can't hear the demon in it on the vid. Now, let the bikes to the talking :D :D
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HayaBoosta03,
All kidding aside, the bike sounds good.. Kinda sounds like it needs an azzz whoopin,,,, Bwwhhhahahahahahahaaaa!!... J/K man... :lol: :lol:
I hope this rain stays away for wednesday,,,, it's the only excuse I have for not getting my ass handed to me on the 1K.
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LoL man you are funny. Thanks for the compliment. I promise to make it quick and painless heheh. Oh yeah the rain I forgot about that, it rains like every other day now. Hopefully Wednesday it will be gone. You can't hide behind the rain forever!?
Ahh come on...I like it better the other way when you think the 1K can beat me, its so much fuNner! :D ha just messing with ya bro!
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also note my 10,373 miles on an 03 ;-)
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My 03 1K has just over 4K miles.... :D
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ahaha well yeah who wouldnt when you have a bad ass busa like yours. Glad you gave me a heads up before I died LOL!!
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So, what happened???? :lol:
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nothing yet, we are hooking up Wednesday if everything falls into place
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What's up Kid? I took a vacation with my 7yr old son and went to my first soccer game he was playing in...That did it for me. I've been missing out on too much of his growing up already and he's pretty good too. Re-located with an entirely new profession with a $5000 per yr raise. I know where you guys are talking about and there's also a spot where bikers meet up off of 1960 and 45...think it's in the Subway parking lot after 9 p.m. Lots of K5 1000's there too..a couple of chicks on 'em too...just be careful out there 'cause word is they now patrol with the chopper almost every nite for runners!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hayaboosta 03,
On Wednesday at around 9:30/10p/m a bunch of bikes meet at the Petsmart at 1960 and 45. I was there two weekends ago must have been six or so 05 1k's. I am sure you could find a run.
If you do hook up for a run take it away from that location. Police are thick around there.
I will probably be out there if it is not raining. This is what my bike looks like. If you see me come by and say hello.
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid176/p3a12a79eb3bb392b8871bd13ffa7e2fa/f35c9697.jpg)
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid177/pf9bf705b92575cc0cb192cd0c2fb81e8/f34d185d.jpg)
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sweet bike blewbyu, not sure if I have seen your bike before. I rarely even go to the exxon just off 1960 where alot meet on wednesdays. But police is real heavy there i know.copters and all 100+ city police and state troopers alone on 1960 I hear. I stay clear of that area because I run no tag with my undertail etc. But I wish I could stop by and meet you and check out your sweet bike but my legal issues do not permit :(
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I understand.
The Exxon is right across the street from the Petsmart, they moved it over there so they could stunt in the parking lot.
Good luck with your run. :)
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What's up Kid? I took a vacation with my 7yr old son and went to my first soccer game he was playing in...That did it for me. I've been missing out on too much of his growing up already and he's pretty good too. Re-located with an entirely new profession with a $5000 per yr raise.
Hey thats good for you and your son, even if the $ was lower than your last job, raise him right or the world will, I wish you well, and will you be at Red River in LA this weekend, If not maybe I can meet you at a TX shootout race sometime, thanks
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Well HayaBoosta, is the weather going to permit us to run this afternoon? Let me know if it's still a go.
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It sucks I doubt it, I check the weather for the week and Thunderstorms all week. It rained bad yesterday and was wet all day. Well I think the Thunder Gods are looking out for you on this one AHAHA j/k we have each other's number and board name so we will do it when the time is right.
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Chicken shit!!!! LoL,,J/k back at ya. Yes it's thundering and raining as I type this maybe later this week or something.
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ahh now you done it :twisted: just make sure you bring that wimpy busa of yours k? hehheh
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ahh now you done it :twisted: just make sure you bring that wimpy busa of yours k? hehheh
Damn!! I just read 7 pages of posts and never even found out how the race went! So, how did it go? Did the race ever take place?????/
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Yeah it happened and the 1000 won easily :D
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Any other information, from like from a hit at 130mph or what ever else they tried.
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Yeah it happened and the 1000 won easily :D
o the sarcasm
:lmao:
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Any other information, from like from a hit at 130mph or what ever else they tried.
The 1000 pulled the Busa in all attempts except in a top end race over about a mile and a half span. :wink:
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Any other information, from like from a hit at 130mph or what ever else they tried.
The 1000 pulled the Busa in all attempts except in a top end race over about a mile and a half span. :wink:
Better get you an 05 or up then... :lol:
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Looks like they forgot to post their results! Somebodies nose bent a bit?? I would have liked to read the results on how close things were and at what speeds.
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Who actually is racing who. I see a lot of posts abot racing but all different screen names. I can't keep track over the past 8 pages.
Lets get some more info on all the people who raced. Sounds like a few matches have taken place or at least were going to.
:D
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I bagged a couple busas on my 1k.....
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nomrlz, Lets hear more about you and Blur Racing, what gear and the speed you started at.
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The ONLY time Nomrlz beat me was after a mile and a half top end run.
In every other roll on from any speed and any gear I toasted him.
He didnt even come close when we went from a dig but that was rider skill more then the power of the bikes.
I also only weigh 160 and he is quite a bit heavier so that may explain the massacre :lol:
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normalz dont wanna talk about it... :shock:
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normalz dont wanna talk about it... :shock:
I dont blame him........the truth hurts :lol:
You know how those 1000s run Twisted :thumb:
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:yes: :beechug:
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normalz dont wanna talk about it... :shock:
he did get me outta the hole, boy got skillz :yes: . after that :moped: all he saw was assholes and elbows :lol: . i shoulda took his lid and sold it as a donation for the site. i felt bad taking that $1 we bet too. he can hooli hoop through a cheerio. boy needs a trip to the sizzler. as long as i keep winning these big money races i'll keep hitting the buffet and they can stay close :lmao:
:lmao:
hooli hoop through a cherio :lmao:
Its okay that the mighty Busa lost. It is a overweight aging dinosaur but it still kicks ass for the technology.
I know it is hard for some to believe that own one that it is not the quickest bike out there but it isnt.........maybe you will have hope in 07 :D
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maybe you will have hope in 07 :D
i have an extremely reliable source that has told me the '07 busa will be a turbocharged 1500cc mill. they could only get it down to 450lbs dry due to the bigger engine but it should still run decent. full ohlins suspension, brembo radial brakes, and a cup holder big enough for a slurpee. other than that, i am not at liberty to release other info :wink:
You think thats real or just another rumor :shock:
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maybe you will have hope in 07 :D
i have an extremely reliable source that has told me the '07 busa will be a turbocharged 1500cc mill. they could only get it down to 450lbs dry due to the bigger engine but it should still run decent. full ohlins suspension, brembo radial brakes, and a cup holder big enough for a slurpee. other than that, i am not at liberty to release other info :wink:
whats this shit I heard yamaha is going to buy hardley?
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Who actually is racing who. I see a lot of posts abot racing but all different screen names. I can't keep track over the past 8 pages.
Lets get some more info on all the people who raced. Sounds like a few matches have taken place or at least were going to.
:D
I agree, too many people were listed as who were going to race but who ACTUALLY raced and what were those results?
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Who actually is racing who. I see a lot of posts abot racing but all different screen names. I can't keep track over the past 8 pages.
Lets get some more info on all the people who raced. Sounds like a few matches have taken place or at least were going to.
:D
I agree, too many people were listed as who were going to race but who ACTUALLY raced and what were those results?
Keyboard racers :lol:
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Keyboard racers :lol:
Those are the fastest out there 0-internet in 2 seconds!
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Who actually is racing who. I see a lot of posts abot racing but all different screen names. I can't keep track over the past 8 pages.
Lets get some more info on all the people who raced. Sounds like a few matches have taken place or at least were going to.
:D
I agree, too many people were listed as who were going to race but who ACTUALLY raced and what were those results?
Keyboard racers :lol:
i only bench race all the time.
PAGE 9 :shock:
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Where is, Hayaboosta03 He was suppose to do the RACING. So come on and give us the story :) :moped:
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nope im not. i would not be this bold if I think I could not
I can tell you 1st hand that from anything more than 50mph the new LITER bike will be right beside you till 150mph or slightly ahead...period...
I agree, there was a time when the liter bikes were a close second, now I wonder who is the fastest
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WOW I can't believe this thread was still active, I will have to go back and read whats going on and who wants to get smacked up
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Was there ever an update to this post? Anyone ever race this guy? Hell... Lets make it a real race!! From Woolfie's in the Woodlands to the 610 loop via the Hardy toll road and back! Loser buys the round for everyone that comes to watch!
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Hmmm...Sounds like an easy win for me :)
heyyyy wait a minute, what are you doing stiring up an old pot of stew? Trying to get some Gix rider embarassed or sumthin' ?
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I'm always up for a good shit stirring event. Just think if we could get a a bunch of people to come out to play.... maybe a few Porsches and other high end toys.... Oh the possibilities are endless.
My Brother just finished the One Lap of America event and was 5th overall and 1st in class with a 700+ awhp Subaru... Maybe we could just have a One Lap of Houston!! Anyone up for a trip all the way around the beltway?
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I ride every sunday a.m. with some houston boys .They all meet us up here at fayatteville tx.I have a stock gsxr1000 and would love to try your busa out
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I personally think I could race you on ANYBODYS litre bike and STOMP your busa like Napa Valley Grapes. Anybody want to up your pride and joy to me for about... oh... ten minutes... just think... you could say you saw me WHOOP some guys busa on your bike.
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I personally think I could race you on ANYBODYS litre bike and STOMP your busa like Napa Valley Grapes. Anybody want to up your pride and joy to me for about... oh... ten minutes... just think... you could say you saw me WHOOP some guys busa on your bike.
You're a little late.
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Great 3 yr old thread resurrection..... :?
BTW if this guy is still around....I would be more then happy to drill his ass with my 01 1000. I am in Houston and love 2nd gear roll ons..... :D
I know the guy that Phantombusa was talking about at the beginning of this thread. His name is Tony. He had a blk/silv 05 1k. Back in 06, the bike fell off of a trailer when both tie downs broke. It got totalled and he never bought another one. But I will attest to the fact that his BONE STOCK 05 would FUCK UP busas from a 2nd gear, 60 mph roll.....PERIOD. Actually he would fuck up just about everything, ZX10s, R1s, everything. We were doing a lot of 2nd gear racing back then. More fun then anything else I have done with bikes.
Matter in fact, I got a video on here somewhere of me ass raping a 07 stock busa that dynoed 155hp on my 01 1000. At the strip or top end, the busas will still run more mph but in a roll on race in any gear, a liter bike with a decent rider thats not too heavy will stomp it. I can't wait until we get to play with some 08 Busas at our roll on race hot spot.
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more than 3 years later, I am still here :vl:
I have the infamous 2nd gear problem, probably along with shift forks also. Currently in the process of getting the bike
back together from a wreck I had June last year.
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Watch this video.....you can scroll to 2:30, thats where we race. Thats a stock hayabusa with a box mod. Dynoed 155hp before the box mod. My 01 1000 with a pipe/tune/+2 rear. Same rider weight and skill. From about a 60mph roll with him in 1st and me in 2nd. With him starting in 2nd, its only worse.
:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KL6UXWRj9I&feature=user
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Here is another one from when both bikes were stock. Actually the 1000 had a D&D slip on but everything else stock. We were both starting in 2nd gear, about a 60mph roll. My bike was making 142hp, his was making 155hp, same dyno, same day. This one is pretty close. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnkYdueNIO4&feature=user
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damn not bad for an 01 gix stock lol
I had a friend that had a 06 zx10, tune, arata full system, filter and weighed 150lbs
my stock busa and I weighed 200lbs. I would always jump out first but he will pull me in and run
away from me. Until I did 16/42 gearing and that evened us up, I even won one! still on a stock bike minus gearing
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Alan, Chris(Speedninja) just got an 08 Busa
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damn not bad for an 01 gix stock lol
I had a friend that had a 06 zx10, tune, arata full system, filter and weighed 150lbs
my stock busa and I weighed 200lbs. I would always jump out first but he will pull me in and run
away from me. Until I did 16/42 gearing and that evened us up, I even won one! still on a stock bike minus gearing
Yeah 16/42 wakes em up pretty good until about 150.... :thumb:
Tommy, Chris got his 08 huh? Has he rode it any yet? I am sure he will be putting a BDE setup on it before long :thumb: He will be ready to profile it in October at the Mile.
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damn not bad for an 01 gix stock lol
I had a friend that had a 06 zx10, tune, arata full system, filter and weighed 150lbs
my stock busa and I weighed 200lbs. I would always jump out first but he will pull me in and run
away from me. Until I did 16/42 gearing and that evened us up, I even won one! still on a stock bike minus gearing
Yeah 16/42 wakes em up pretty good until about 150.... :thumb:
Tommy, Chris got his 08 huh? Has he rode it any yet? I am sure he will be putting a BDE setup on it before long :thumb: He will be ready to profile it in October at the Mile.
Yep BDE, Velocity arm, bazaaz box, BST's, lowered, shifter, nitrous :thumb:
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damn not bad for an 01 gix stock lol
I had a friend that had a 06 zx10, tune, arata full system, filter and weighed 150lbs
my stock busa and I weighed 200lbs. I would always jump out first but he will pull me in and run
away from me. Until I did 16/42 gearing and that evened us up, I even won one! still on a stock bike minus gearing
Yeah 16/42 wakes em up pretty good until about 150.... :thumb:
Tommy, Chris got his 08 huh? Has he rode it any yet? I am sure he will be putting a BDE setup on it before long :thumb: He will be ready to profile it in October at the Mile.
Yep BDE, Velocity arm, bazaaz box, BST's, lowered, shifter, nitrous :thumb:
SWEET setup. I don't know if I would spray it though with the titanium valves..... Lots of people blowing up new Z06s spraying them with the stock Ti valves. Everyone is pulling the heads and putting stainless valves in em. Hell, just with his BDE stuff, arm and light wheels he should bust out some 8.90s-9.0s... :thumb:
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Hello all,
It's been a long time since I've been on here, it's good to be back though. I just sold my 06 GSX-R1000 and bought an 08 Busa. For the riding I've been doing the past year and half (long trips) the Busa is so much more enjoyable. BUT I still think my 1000 was faster than the new Busa. Perhaps it's not but it just feels that way. I wish my bike didn't sell so quick so that I could have done a comparison race. I guess I'll never know, unless someone on here actually has done some roll ons with the new Busa???
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bw, I had a similar situation.......I sold my modded 06 1k and still have my modded 03 Busa......my 1k felt way faster than the Busa, I think some of that has to do with the bikes reaction. The Busa stays more planted, the 1k was up in the air through 3rd gear most of the time, and a little skiddish at high speed runs (where the Busa felt planted). Going 150 on my 1k felt like 170, going 170 on the busa feels like 140.
That being said, I enjoyed my 1k more and miss the hell out of it........maybe all of that will change next week with the next step im taking the busa.
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I'm trying to find some busas to run from second gear on my 08 ZX-10, but it seems all the ones around here are 1397s with big arms or show queens. :(
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I'm trying to find some busas to run from second gear on my 08 ZX-10, but it seems all the ones around here are 1397s with big arms or show queens. :(
Where are you from? I'd like to try out that 08 ZX10 with my 1000.
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anybody race yet?
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I come down there and cut your ass with my 08 busa!! :thumb:
Ill put my pink slip on that!
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There was an 08 ZX14 that was probably saying the same thing at our superbike shootout before he got spanked by an 02 GSXR1000
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I come down there and cut your ass with my 08 busa!! :thumb:
Ill put my pink slip on that!
WHO ME? WTF..... bring that shit....I need a new busa since mine still don't run.....LOL
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I'm trying to find some busas to run from second gear on my 08 ZX-10, but it seems all the ones around here are 1397s with big arms or show queens. :(
Where are you from? I'd like to try out that 08 ZX10 with my 1000.
Panama City, FL
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bw, I had a similar situation.......I sold my modded 06 1k and still have my modded 03 Busa......my 1k felt way faster than the Busa, I think some of that has to do with the bikes reaction. The Busa stays more planted, the 1k was up in the air through 3rd gear most of the time, and a little skiddish at high speed runs (where the Busa felt planted). Going 150 on my 1k felt like 170, going 170 on the busa feels like 140.
That being said, I enjoyed my 1k more and miss the hell out of it........maybe all of that will change next week with the next step im taking the busa.
After a few high speed runs on the new Busa, I've come to this conclusion, in regards to comparing it to my 06 GSX-R1000: 0-100mph 1000 was much faster, 100-140mph both bikes about the same, and 140-186mph Busa is faster. I was able to do a bunch of roll ons with my friend who owns an 06 GSX-R750 and I used to run with him all the time on my 1000 so I remember clearly how those races went. On the Busa, the 750 walked on me regardless of what gear I was in till about 100 (we always start at 60mph) and then I'd real him in and pass him soon after that. That NEVER happened on my 1000, he was always behind me at any speed. Then we did a bunch of runs starting at 120mph (as we used to on 1000 too) and I left him in the dust perhaps faster than I used to on my 1000.
I'd still like to race a 1000 just to do an actual comparison but I think that is about as close as I'm gonna get. All my other friends own 600's.
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I'm trying to find some busas to run from second gear on my 08 ZX-10, but it seems all the ones around here are 1397s with big arms or show queens. :(
Where are you from? I'd like to try out that 08 ZX10 with my 1000.
Panama City, FL
OH....I thought you were local here since this was a local thread. Panama City is a bit of a stretch....LOL :D
Yeah usually the 1000s are faster(then gen 1s) up to 150 or so...then after its a crap shoot. Gen 2 busas are definetly faster then 1000s, hell, even a good running ZX14 with a pipe and a middleweight rider is faster then most 1000s. Hard to make up that extra 250-300cc.
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I come down there and cut your ass with my 08 busa!! :thumb:
Ill put my pink slip on that!
WHO ME? WTF..... bring that shit....I need a new busa since mine still don't run.....LOL
:lol:
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Hey Alan,he said he would come to us with his 08 Busa!Anytime Superbikefan
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Hey Alan,he said he would come to us with his 08 Busa!Anytime Superbikefan
:lol:
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This thread makes me want to go out and sell my stock busa and get a k/5.
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When is the next gathering...? I've got a bonestock 08 ready to play... :D