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Title: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: 02 busa se on January 21, 2006, 10:31:34 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/busase/post195542stnchopped1423ww.jpg)
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 21, 2006, 10:32:58 AM
if it only had a nicer seat 8)
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: h82bbad on January 21, 2006, 10:33:46 AM
I can't wait to paddle the first ones ass :D
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: gnd111 on January 21, 2006, 10:39:12 AM
Is that the one Rickey is tuning fro the mags?  Gonna be alot of dissaointed 14 owners when they don't run .20's on their showroom stock bike...
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: J R on January 21, 2006, 10:39:20 AM
It will be real interesting to see how it runs.I hope when they test the bike tho its one that is outta the box from just anywhere and not one thats been sent to Rickey Gadson( nothing against him ) and had who knows what done to it before hand :? But it really dont matter even if they fudge sooner or later the people who buy them will make it to the track and dyno and the truth will come out.Im sure its gonna run good the 10 runs damn good and im sure they aint gonna make it slower than the 10 I wouldnt think.But who knows what Suzuki has around the corner? One way or another it is all good for us the consumers :wink:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: zig-zag on January 21, 2006, 10:39:50 AM
i like kawaski's bikes but damn thats ugly! :puke: for being that ugly it better be fast!
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: mokaw on January 21, 2006, 10:40:30 AM
I don't think you'll paddle that one's rear, although that's all you'll see is the rear. That bike is Rickey Gadson's.
Rob Muzzy has one, too, that he's been messing around with.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 21, 2006, 10:42:33 AM
Is that the one Rickey is tuning fro the mags?  Gonna be alot of dissaointed 14 owners when they don't run .20's on their showroom stock bike...
you mean 9.20s? :shock:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: zig-zag on January 21, 2006, 10:43:28 AM
well maybe not but the first regular guy to buy one has a ton of races ready if he wants them
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: J R on January 21, 2006, 10:43:37 AM
Is that the one Rickey is tuning fro the mags?  Gonna be alot of dissaointed 14 owners when they don't run .20's on their showroom stock bike...
Thats one thing i really have to wonder about why Kawi would have to send a bike somewhere to have it messed with before testing.Thats a bunch of bullshit.Get one outta the box and test the bitch and be real about it.or sooner or later your lies will catch up with you Kawi..... I like Kawi,s but i wanna see real world shit not prepped bikes.The old Busa can be prepped to run well also if tweaked.When I heard they sent a bike to Gadson I had to start thinking somthing dishonest is going on here.Sending a bike off to be tweaked and then claiming its stock...BULLSHIT :evil:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 21, 2006, 10:46:36 AM
Is that the one Rickey is tuning fro the mags?  Gonna be alot of dissaointed 14 owners when they don't run .20's on their showroom stock bike...
Thats one thing i really have to wonder about why Kawi would have to send a bike somewhere to have it messed with before testing.Thats a bunch of bullshit.Get one outta the box and test the bitch and be real about it.or sooner or later your lies will catch up with you Kawi..... I like Kawi,s but i wanna see real world shit not prepped bikes.The old Busa can be prepped to run well also if tweaked.
id say kawi wants to KILL the busa with this exact bike in its first test.
we will se what they run in the real world bonestock sooner or later :wink:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Bowman on January 21, 2006, 10:48:20 AM
it's ugly and it looks slow.....
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 21, 2006, 10:51:02 AM
here a vid of the zx14 running down the quarter.lookie here :lol: :arrow:

:moped:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Bowman on January 21, 2006, 10:51:44 AM
 :lmao:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: J R on January 21, 2006, 10:52:06 AM
I can see it now all the guys who are die hard kawi guys ( and yes ive owned a few) will be spouting off about what a stock 14 does and it will all be one that had the cam timing changed ign timing fuel maps different head gasket good fuel e.c.t but that wont be the story it will be no its all stock.Plus the mags bullshit so bad about the times anyways.Whata ya wanna bet that this will be advertised in the mags as the first factory 8 second bike ???????? If they read this they may admit it was slightly tweaked  :D
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: gnd111 on January 21, 2006, 10:52:19 AM
Is that the one Rickey is tuning fro the mags?  Gonna be alot of dissaointed 14 owners when they don't run .20's on their showroom stock bike...
you mean 9.20s? :shock:

Yep.  Hell Shine went 9.45 on a (bone stock) Busa so you know this tweaked 14R will go 9.20 with Rickey on it.  
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Bowman on January 21, 2006, 10:53:16 AM
I didn't really think the 10 and 12 looked that bad. Why would they make the 14 that ugly?
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: h82bbad on January 21, 2006, 10:57:16 AM
I don't think you'll paddle that one's rear, although that's all you'll see is the rear. That bike is Rickey Gadson's.
Rob Muzzy has one, too, that he's been messing around with.

if that bitch aint making over 240hp it will get paddled
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: J R on January 21, 2006, 10:57:29 AM
The 12 aint a bad lookin bike at all.This thing will have to grow on me i guess.I got a freind in town with one on order so we will see how it really runs when he gets his.He drag races and im sure he will hit the dyno with it.Altho he may not tell you all the little tricks he does to a bike and claim its all stock ill try to catch him at the dealership  :lmao:you know who im talkin to  :wink: :beechug:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Bowman on January 21, 2006, 10:59:17 AM
I almost bought a 12. I'd pick it over this 14 any day of the week.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 21, 2006, 10:59:39 AM
I don't think you'll paddle that one's rear, although that's all you'll see is the rear. That bike is Rickey Gadson's.
Rob Muzzy has one, too, that he's been messing around with.

if that bitch aint making over 240hp it will get paddled
i say 160-165stock.gadsens will be at 180 :lol:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 21, 2006, 11:00:28 AM
I almost bought a 12. I'd pick it over this 14 any day of the week.
the day you go turbo,youll be happy about that decision 8)
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: h82bbad on January 21, 2006, 11:02:33 AM
I don't think you'll paddle that one's rear, although that's all you'll see is the rear. That bike is Rickey Gadson's.
Rob Muzzy has one, too, that he's been messing around with.

if that bitch aint making over 240hp it will get paddled
i say 160-165stock.gadsens will be at 180 :lol:

one of the reasons I added a turbo :D
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Bowman on January 21, 2006, 11:04:10 AM
I want a turbo.....
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 21, 2006, 11:05:07 AM
I don't think you'll paddle that one's rear, although that's all you'll see is the rear. That bike is Rickey Gadson's.
Rob Muzzy has one, too, that he's been messing around with.

if that bitch aint making over 240hp it will get paddled
i say 160-165stock.gadsens will be at 180 :lol:

one of the reasons I added a turbo :D
TEH reason i went turbo :lol:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 21, 2006, 11:06:05 AM
I want a turbo.....
get one.theres a guy called themotorhead on this site.he has some nice kits :lol:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 21, 2006, 11:08:54 AM
I want a turbo.....
if i was a kawi guy lurking here,id lmao about this post :lol:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Bowman on January 21, 2006, 11:09:21 AM
I need that green stuff before I can get one. Just did the turbo on the car. Can't afford anything else yet.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Bowman on January 21, 2006, 11:09:48 AM
don't need a turbo to smoke a kawi
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Bowman on January 21, 2006, 11:11:36 AM
Sorry, needed this to hit 500 :D
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: J R on January 21, 2006, 11:14:57 AM
Sorry, needed this to hit 500 :D
:beechug:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: DaveO on January 21, 2006, 11:19:47 AM
i say 160-165stock.gadsens will be at 180 :lol:

Wrong....

Dave
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: gnd111 on January 21, 2006, 11:24:54 AM
i say 160-165stock.gadsens will be at 180 :lol:

Wrong....

Dave

No doubt!  I can imagine with the c/r and cam profile Kaw like to use this 1352cc motor will be almost exactly the same as most Busa 1363 kits...

This bike will be strong and fast!
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 21, 2006, 11:25:58 AM
i say 160-165stock.gadsens will be at 180 :lol:

Wrong....

Dave
it may even have 190 :shock:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 21, 2006, 11:26:32 AM
Sorry, needed this to hit 500 :D
:beechug:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: flfiremedic on January 21, 2006, 11:26:38 AM
i say 160-165stock.gadsens will be at 180 :lol:

Wrong....

Dave
What are you thinking it will come in at stock?
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: gnd111 on January 21, 2006, 11:26:49 AM
i say 160-165stock.gadsens will be at 180 :lol:

Wrong....

Dave
it may even have 190 :shock:

With ZERO tuning they won't...
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 21, 2006, 11:31:12 AM
i say 160-165stock.gadsens will be at 180 :lol:

Wrong....

Dave
it may even have 190 :shock:

With ZERO tuning they won't...
very good point.no pc out yet.but if they wideband tune it?theres allways a way to get it done..
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: DarkFalcon on January 21, 2006, 11:38:48 AM
I am looking for 165 to 170 RWHP out of the box; around 12 more with a pipe and tuning module; and another 12 with cams, headwork and pistons..........compression ratio only. Low 190's to mid 190's with all the above and using pump gas and SAE. Add 10 more for STD and oxy fuel. In my view, the wild card is the stock head, valves and cam combination.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: flfiremedic on January 21, 2006, 11:43:18 AM
So its not gonna be some HUGE reinvention of the wheel?
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: gnd111 on January 21, 2006, 11:45:07 AM
My guess with pipe and pc most riders will see 185-190 STD.

Of course the best tuners will always have higher numbers. 

Most people off the showroom will see about 170-175 but hell - who knows...
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: flfiremedic on January 21, 2006, 11:52:01 AM
I still don't think you can go by the ones they are passing out to the pros!  And its still an ugly bike!
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: mokaw on January 21, 2006, 12:22:10 PM
i say 160-165stock.gadsens will be at 180 :lol:

Wrong....

Dave
What are you thinking it will come in at stock?
I've heard one was dynoed at 183. Fairytale? I don't know.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 21, 2006, 12:35:42 PM
183? :shock:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: zig-zag on January 21, 2006, 12:39:18 PM
after gadson played with it!
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: LS6 on January 21, 2006, 12:40:29 PM
Needs a TURBO.... :moped: :moped:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: KevinStough on January 21, 2006, 12:49:23 PM
 :puke: Kawasucki
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: gjp1300 on January 21, 2006, 12:55:38 PM
183 hp bone stock is true
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Bowman on January 21, 2006, 12:56:29 PM
Believe it when i see it
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: jn1300r on January 21, 2006, 01:01:53 PM
I will save my comments until it comes out. :P
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Bowman on January 21, 2006, 01:09:13 PM
even if it has 183hp it's still ugly :D
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: DaveO on January 21, 2006, 01:10:05 PM
I am looking for 165 to 170 RWHP out of the box; around 12 more with a pipe and tuning module; and another 12 with cams, headwork and pistons..........compression ratio only. Low 190's to mid 190's with all the above and using pump gas and SAE. Add 10 more for STD and oxy fuel. In my view, the wild card is the stock head, valves and cam combination.

Closer....

Dave
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: mokaw on January 21, 2006, 01:28:42 PM
even if it has 183hp it's still ugly :D
Maybe Kawasaki figured an ugly bike worked for Suzuki, so, it might work for them. Me, as well as tons of other people I'm sure, thought the Hayabusa was the ugliest motorcyle on the planet when it first came out. Even though I'm a Kaw man, the Busa does grow on you, which the ZX14 will probably do. As for me thinking the Busa was really ugly, it grew on me and there sure are a lot of nice ones on this forum.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Bowman on January 21, 2006, 01:31:59 PM
It may grow on some people but not me. I like the 10 and the 12 but the 14 is just fucking ugly.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Bowman on January 21, 2006, 01:34:26 PM
Also I have nothing against Kawasaki, I've owned ninja's and almost purchased a 12 as I may do so anyways. But IMO that 14 has to be the ugliest bike I have seen
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: DarkFalcon on January 21, 2006, 01:45:02 PM
I am looking for 165 to 170 RWHP out of the box; around 12 more with a pipe and tuning module; and another 12 with cams, headwork and pistons..........compression ratio only. Low 190's to mid 190's with all the above and using pump gas and SAE. Add 10 more for STD and oxy fuel. In my view, the wild card is the stock head, valves and cam combination.

Closer....

Dave

Why am I tempted to believe that you have already accesed privileged and confidential information? :wink: The better it does in stock form, the less upside.......which could be the case. Unless it has a killer head and 34mm valves, I am looking at it as a 1363 and benchmarking accordingly.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: zig-zag on January 21, 2006, 01:50:21 PM
mokaw is you first name richard? :shock:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: mokaw on January 21, 2006, 02:01:33 PM
mokaw is you first name richard? :shock:
No. It's Larry. You must be thinking of ZX12richard. He's about 300 lbs. and rides a green 2000 12 with nitrous. I'm about 150 lbs. and I ride a 2000 12 with nitrous, but it's the faster red color.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Hayabusa200 on January 21, 2006, 02:35:04 PM
if it only had a nicer seat 8)

You mean... If it only had nicer bodywork... Some bikes grow on you, this one makes me wanna puke. I could care less how fast it is, cause I would be embarassed to be seen on it...
BUTT ASS UGLY!!!!!! :shock:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Bowman on January 21, 2006, 02:36:35 PM
It'a all ugly but there is something bad wrong with that seat.....Not too sporty
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: 2slow2go on January 21, 2006, 02:50:14 PM
i have no problem with Kawasaki, i have owned several thru the years.
Always solid , always fast.
There was a 12 next to my Busa on the showroom floor...
Decided it was time for a change.
The 14 will be fast,
Is your bike faster, if its not you will find all kinds of faults with there new product.
Best way to view one is in the rear view mirror :!:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: GSXRme on January 21, 2006, 02:54:58 PM
Believe it when i see it

+1.. those stock pipes have to be killing the HP... I bet it sounds like the stock hayabusa pipes. :P

I say 165 at the most COMPLETELY STOCK
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: GSXRme on January 21, 2006, 02:57:06 PM
Personally I can't get over the banana seat... OMFG what were they thinking?

Kawi uses high Comp Pistons that sqeezes alittle more HP out of the motor. Put JE 13:1 in your stock 81mm Busa motor and youll get the same numbers...

Kawi is smart for doing those little things. I'm glad Kawi released the ZX-14... now the Busas wont be the ugliest sport bike on the road. +1
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: E-RACER on January 21, 2006, 03:01:07 PM
A few buddies seen it at the javits show  and said it looked alot better in real life!!

Also said if felt light and had a Huge crowd looking at it..They were also saying alot of talk around the bike was how the busa is done and this is the bike to have now!!

Just what they said..hopefully all the talk about the blitz By suzuki is Right and they release the totally new one Mid summer!!

 :D
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: GSXRme on January 21, 2006, 03:03:25 PM
A few buddies seen it at the javits show  and said it looked alot better in real life!!

Also said if felt light and had a Huge crowd looking at it..They were also saying alot of talk around the bike was how the busa is done and this is the bike to have now!!

Just what they said..hopefully all the talk about the blitz By suzuki is Right and they release the totally new one Mid summer!!

 :D

6 Cylinder 1100cc Hybrid motor?
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: E-RACER on January 21, 2006, 03:20:47 PM
Funny Qote from Revalot on Psychobike>

RG you are a great guy, And Kawasaki has alot of love for you, #1 you are wise with your words,/those who sponsor you like that,# 2 you are a great rider, I watched the last Pro Star race on TV/Speed, and you rode that ZUK 1K like a bat out of hell, Here my thoughts on the ZX-14,

BONE Stock 9,50 to 9,60 1/4,speed 150-155 MPH,
Gear,Pipe, low to the ground, 9,10 8,90 160 MPH,

It will be better than todays busa,

But there is a Prophecy, after the busa came out in 99, Their was a anti busa,That would try in be like the real busa, It failed in it,s 1st attemp, The ZX-12R, The story says that after 7 years, A New Beast would awake from the ashes/abyss to try once again for the speed crown 1/4 mile, and the beast arose, And many people were fooled by the 2nd beast, and rode it, Then a bright light begin to shine, after 6-12 months, The New and better busa returned with 1500cc, And the anti-busa/ ZX-14 was destroyed, and all those that rode it, stock times were 9,40-9,30 155-160 stock, Pipe,gear, low, 8,80-870, the beast was and is no more, And then the real busa said, Luke Im your father! 

Just having some fun guys. Thanks
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Twisted on January 21, 2006, 03:22:42 PM
what say you?

honestly, does that bike really have modern styling?  do the lines blend and flow? can it go underwater? wheres the snorkel?
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Bowman on January 21, 2006, 04:03:32 PM
Funny Qote from Revalot on Psychobike>

RG you are a great guy, And Kawasaki has alot of love for you, #1 you are wise with your words,/those who sponsor you like that,# 2 you are a great rider, I watched the last Pro Star race on TV/Speed, and you rode that ZUK 1K like a bat out of hell, Here my thoughts on the ZX-14,

BONE Stock 9,50 to 9,60 1/4,speed 150-155 MPH,
Gear,Pipe, low to the ground, 9,10 8,90 160 MPH,

It will be better than todays busa,

But there is a Prophecy, after the busa came out in 99, Their was a anti busa,That would try in be like the real busa, It failed in it,s 1st attemp, The ZX-12R, The story says that after 7 years, A New Beast would awake from the ashes/abyss to try once again for the speed crown 1/4 mile, and the beast arose, And many people were fooled by the 2nd beast, and rode it, Then a bright light begin to shine, after 6-12 months, The New and better busa returned with 1500cc, And the anti-busa/ ZX-14 was destroyed, and all those that rode it, stock times were 9,40-9,30 155-160 stock, Pipe,gear, low, 8,80-870, the beast was and is no more, And then the real busa said, Luke Im your father!

Just having some fun guys. Thanks


Good Stuff
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: dogman on January 21, 2006, 04:12:08 PM
I owned one Kaw bike in my life..82 GpZ..Got rid of it when the zuk's tore my ass up..Might try the Kaw again..Hate to but I like to own the fastest..
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Revalot # 1 on January 21, 2006, 04:29:19 PM
Funny Qote from Revalot on Psychobike>

RG you are a great guy, And Kawasaki has alot of love for you, #1 you are wise with your words,/those who sponsor you like that,# 2 you are a great rider, I watched the last Pro Star race on TV/Speed, and you rode that ZUK 1K like a bat out of hell, Here my thoughts on the ZX-14,

BONE Stock 9,50 to 9,60 1/4,speed 150-155 MPH,
Gear,Pipe, low to the ground, 9,10 8,90 160 MPH,

It will be better than todays busa,

But there is a Prophecy, after the busa came out in 99, Their was a anti busa,That would try in be like the real busa, It failed in it,s 1st attemp, The ZX-12R, The story says that after 7 years, A New Beast would awake from the ashes/abyss to try once again for the speed crown 1/4 mile, and the beast arose, And many people were fooled by the 2nd beast, and rode it, Then a bright light begin to shine, after 6-12 months, The New and better busa returned with 1500cc, And the anti-busa/ ZX-14 was destroyed, and all those that rode it, stock times were 9,40-9,30 155-160 stock, Pipe,gear, low, 8,80-870, the beast was and is no more, And then the real busa said, Luke Im your father! 

Just having some fun guys. Thanks


E-Racer, Thanks for posting that, I wrote that myself, When the board crashed a few years ago, My pc hard drive went bad also, So with the new hard drive, I could not sign on here with my old name, Which is Revalot, Im a preacher, And on my 0ld 95 1100 ZUK, The 39FCR would hit so hard in fast, I tag the rev limit alot, So Revalot came to mind, The Kid Quick I just made up, Im not quick at all, Maybe at the mouth, but not on my busa yet.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: E-RACER on January 21, 2006, 04:35:30 PM
Funny and hopefully true stuff!! :D
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: ChrisCoupe on January 21, 2006, 05:40:54 PM
here a vid of the zx14 running down the quarter.lookie here :lol: :arrow:

:moped:
:lol:..........TURNED INTO A  :lmao:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: SLOWBUSA on January 21, 2006, 05:42:57 PM
I owned one Kaw bike in my life..82 GpZ..Got rid of it when the zuk's tore my ass up..Might try the Kaw again..Hate to but I like to own the fastest..

  :lol2:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: BandR on January 21, 2006, 06:09:48 PM
so does anyone know when the 14 is going to be released ?
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Bowman on January 21, 2006, 06:41:34 PM
I owned one Kaw bike in my life..82 GpZ..Got rid of it when the zuk's tore my ass up..Might try the Kaw again..Hate to but I like to own the fastest..

So basically ur saying if a flying turd went faster u'd rather have one. Shouldn't it be what u like the best and fuck everybody else :D
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: rumble phish on January 21, 2006, 07:07:34 PM
Wow, some of you guys are really scared aren't you?

The 14 is gonna kill the Busa. It'll kill it stock for stock. It'll be the quickest production bike ever built.

and you guys will go on about how your turboed Busa's will own any 14 out there.

Then someone will turbo or spray a 14 that'll rape your turbo Busa then you say "yeah but look how ugly the 14 is"


You guys are already making excuses about why the 14 wontill better the Busa. Your using every argument that the 12 owners used and you shot down.

It's painfully obvious how many of you just can't accept the fact that they finally made a bike stronger and faster than our beloved Busa. It's about fucking time! Hell the liter bikes are already giving us more than we can handle. Back when the Busa was new it didn't matter if the rider wasn't as good. it still killed anything in a straight line and most in the curves. Today is different though. The Gixxer1K, the ZX10, the R1, the CBR1KRR all keep up and are within a royal cunt hair of out power and speed (stock to standard mods). It's ALL rider nowadays. The Busa's power can't overcome an average rider against a good rider anymore.


And PUUUHLESE no more "well it wont be the fastest 'cause the 2000 Busa was the las UNRESTRICTED bike". Lets face it, if it wasn't restricted from the factory it would probably kill the Busa's top speed as well.


Let's just let it go and accept that our Busa is a motorcycling Icon. It's the living legend. It will be beat. So what? I still love it.

You guys will be either making more excuses when the 14's numbers are posted or you'll lusting after one and forsaking your faithful Busa.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: dogman on January 21, 2006, 07:15:21 PM
I have owned a bunch of different brans of bikes since I have been riding,,About 45 yrs give or take a couple...I like the Busa and Suzuki best..But if the new Busa does not come out and will own a Kaw..Even though it will be hard...Had twwo 99 Busa's and ready to get another bike be it a Busa or a Kaw...That does not mean I will still not love the Busa..
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Wolf1397 on January 21, 2006, 07:37:21 PM
Motorcycle manufactures list horsepower in many countries in Europe.  The Hayabusa has 175 hp.  This is of course on the crank.  Kawasaki has not listed a number yet for the ZZR 1400, but the representatives at bike shows and dealers are whispering 192 hp.  Time will tell…

Wolf
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: zx12-iowa on January 21, 2006, 07:39:59 PM
you guys crack me up.  you think the bike will add 20 rwhp over the 12?   :lol:  maybe 10.  and with the mods- he'll even the cbr1100s are a factor with turbo kits.  So with those types of mods it won't be much of a factor.  I loved the zx12 styling, but ths zx14 is just dated looking.  hope it looks better in person :(
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: gnd111 on January 21, 2006, 07:57:42 PM
Rumble - the new 14 will bust the Busa - no doubt.  BUTTTTTTTTTT  with the head/cylinder design ONCE AGAIN Kawakasaki fugged up...

The next gen Busa WILL (wanna bet) have the 14 covered...
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: CADDYWOMPUS on January 21, 2006, 08:59:51 PM
 I saw and sat on it tonight at the NY show  . I dunno .I didnt think it looked to bad..

The rep there told me it was 480 lbs dry  and 200 hp 100 ft lbs at crank.  If true that makes it about 175-180 at the wheel right ?   

I might try one a year or 2 down the road  Weather its a split hair faster than a busa or not dosent make much difference to me as long as its power  gives me a woodie :lol: .

Im not a  die hard Kaw fan or even the least bit brand loyal so I dont care if they fail or suceed with that thing.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Pat Dietrich on January 21, 2006, 09:04:58 PM
They don't worry me (much :() :lol:   If they are truely an 8 sec bike with just a few mods, it will definatly make for an interesting year on the street and the dragstrip.  Its about time somebody once and for all dethrones the busa, At least the pre 07 busa :yes: Cant wait for some cocky punk to roll along side of me on a highway and send him home crying  :yes: :smokin:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: havabusa12r on January 21, 2006, 09:06:51 PM
Think about it this way?

If you are NOT going to buy the 14 (for whatever reason) WHY do you care how fast it is or isn't?

Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: rem300ultra on January 21, 2006, 09:18:21 PM
If it is faster than the Busa, maybe Suzuki will get off of their tails and upgrade the Busa. It's about time. Seven years is a long time not to make any performance upgrades.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: JHerheim on January 21, 2006, 09:40:01 PM
It sure as hell better make more power than a stock Busa,  12r's did.  Kawi's got the right setup to make more HP.  big bore, short stroke and rev the piss out of it.   Based on what I saw of local 12's that were stock they dyno'd around 160hp +-2.   I'll bet showroom stock 14r's will make 15hp more.  Pipe and fuel tweaking will show mid 190's if not 200 easy.  That's my opinion.   What will SUZUKI come up with?  WHO CARES!!  money is to be made in the 600 and liter class.  I think that most of us own Suzuki's VMAX.  Why change the bike when they still sell?   I'll keep my dumpy turbo busa and be happy with it for now.  There is always going to be somebody bigger and faster out there.   

But that seat sure looks stupid, I bet it's comfy
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: GSXRme on January 21, 2006, 10:52:54 PM
Oh oh... PROOF... Kawi built the ZX-14 off the ZX-12 design... There for the bike is doomed before it rolls of the show room floor for being a POS brick.
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/Article_Page.aspx?ArticleID=2503&Page=1

 :lol: old news  :twisted:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: GSXRme on January 21, 2006, 11:40:00 PM
HEAR ME OUT...!!!

Guys... Not to bring it up or anything but I REALY REALY think this motor is for the 2007 Hayabusa. The Suzuki Stratosphere is a fully running Six cylinder 1100cc ball of joy... Suzuki released a Video of the bike driving, speeding down a road and going into turns. Another video was also released of its F1 sounding motor. Even if its 1100cc this torque crazy motor will bring Kawi completely back to the drawing board. EURO 3 mandates motors like the Stratosphere and I don't think increasing the 99-06 motors CC will do the fix for the 2007 model. Remember 1 thing, the Stratosphere is a prototype, so we maybe looking at a 1280cc Six cylinder, 24 valves and 210RWHP bike.

About the body... Change of the front ends ram air vents maybe increased to cope with the bigger motor. Maybe even putting a sparper headlamp on to make it look retro. The 99-06 Hayabusa is PERFECT for high speed runs. Aerodynamics is the key and Suzuki won't F it up like Kawi did with the ZX-12 and ZX-14.

Another rumor... is Suzuki won't use the HAYABUSA name anymore.. They will use a different name for a somewhat of a different bike. I don't think that will happen.

I am almost to the point that I will start betting money on the Stratosphere motor part though. They released the bike in the 05 Tokyo bike show and not anymore that afew months, suzuki announced there doing the final touches to the 07 motor :P

Thats my toughts, not yours.!!!

LOOK AT THIS MOTOR... Get use to it... its the 07 Hayabusas. :P It used nearly the same tech design as the 4 cylinder we know of now and what looks to be the same dam oil pan. Suzuki also uses hiden mufflers like the 2006 600/750.
(http://www.gizmag.com/watermark.php?p=4770_20100530824.jpg)
(http://www.gizmag.com/watermark.php?p=4770_20100530027.jpg)

LINKY!!! ----> http://www.gizmag.com/go/4770/
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: bobby5150 on January 21, 2006, 11:50:06 PM
i havent read through all the posts yet but did somebody say the zx14 is ugly yet because if so then

+1
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: COLDSTONE1300 on January 22, 2006, 01:19:28 AM
and you guys will go on about how your turboed Busa's will own any 14 out there.

Then someone will turbo or spray a 14 that'll rape your turbo Busa then you say "yeah but look how ugly the 14 is"

Well alot of turbo tuners have had a go at that "Unique" frame design and so far, Turbo busa's remain king. I don't see a 1350 changing much when the airbox/frame is still a joke with Boost Tuning. I think you can guess what happens if the Busa gets Revamped.

This is competition though which in the end means faster bikes for all of us.  That's what counts. If the 1400 isn't faster then the current busa then we'll all lose since there won't be much reason for a new busa when a 5 year old design still isn't toppled.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: SLOWBUSA on January 22, 2006, 01:47:30 AM
(http://www.gizmag.com/watermark.php?p=4770_20100530824.jpg)

If this is the next busa engine, put me on the waiting list. :twisted:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 22, 2006, 07:03:37 AM
so does anyone know when the 14 is going to be released ?
once the motors dont break anymore :lol:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 22, 2006, 07:05:35 AM
(http://www.gizmag.com/watermark.php?p=4770_20100530824.jpg)

If this is the next busa engine, put me on the waiting list. :twisted:
dont think so.where will they fit that thing? :?
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: mokaw on January 22, 2006, 09:52:40 AM
HEAR ME OUT...!!!

Guys... Not to bring it up or anything but I REALY REALY think this motor is for the 2007 Hayabusa. The Suzuki Stratosphere is a fully running Six cylinder 1100cc ball of joy... Suzuki released a Video of the bike driving, speeding down a road and going into turns. Another video was also released of its F1 sounding motor. Even if its 1100cc this torque crazy motor will bring Kawi completely back to the drawing board. EURO 3 mandates motors like the Stratosphere and I don't think increasing the 99-06 motors CC will do the fix for the 2007 model. Remember 1 thing, the Stratosphere is a prototype, so we maybe looking at a 1280cc Six cylinder, 24 valves and 210RWHP bike.

About the body... Change of the front ends ram air vents maybe increased to cope with the bigger motor. Maybe even putting a sparper headlamp on to make it look retro. The 99-06 Hayabusa is PERFECT for high speed runs. Aerodynamics is the key and Suzuki won't F it up like Kawi did with the ZX-12 and ZX-14.

Another rumor... is Suzuki won't use the HAYABUSA name anymore.. They will use a different name for a somewhat of a different bike. I don't think that will happen.

I am almost to the point that I will start betting money on the Stratosphere motor part though. They released the bike in the 05 Tokyo bike show and not anymore that afew months, suzuki announced there doing the final touches to the 07 motor :P

Thats my toughts, not yours.!!!

LOOK AT THIS MOTOR... Get use to it... its the 07 Hayabusas. :P It used nearly the same tech design as the 4 cylinder we know of now and what looks to be the same dam oil pan. Suzuki also uses hiden mufflers like the 2006 600/750.
(http://www.gizmag.com/watermark.php?p=4770_20100530824.jpg)
(http://www.gizmag.com/watermark.php?p=4770_20100530027.jpg)

LINKY!!! ----> http://www.gizmag.com/go/4770/
And you guys think the ZX14 is ugly? :roll:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: GSXRme on January 22, 2006, 11:12:08 AM
I beleave I said motor. Bike itself is nothing. I did notice the rotors are different, almost like cars.

Yes that bike is UGLY but they test they're best ideas on it.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: TrickTom1 on January 22, 2006, 11:23:00 AM
Busa all the way, but the 14 looks a ton better lowered.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: craigster on January 22, 2006, 11:25:42 AM
Kawasaki's 14 better be faster.  They've had seven years to work on it.  They've always had good top end power but the loved to make the ports too big.  Old ZX900 ninjas were a prime example of how to kill power by making sewer pipes for intakes.

 Hopefully they've put in good rods and an oiling  system that can feed them to keep them from failing (another reason - even though they've had seven years there may not be much improvement)  Remember ZX900 #3 rod failures in '84  - same #3 died regularly in the 1000's   - Not a good CIP Engineering team if you ask me.   then consider the #3 od failed in the ZX10....Hey anybody see a pattern?  At least they fixed it in the ZX11.....Oh wait a mintue....I take that back.  Four products later they were still failing!!!!!  To their credit they had it figured out by 2000  .....only took 16 years! :shock:

They've had seven with this one, we''ll see where it get's them. :D
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: EXTREMEFUN1300 on January 22, 2006, 12:51:49 PM
It looks like a Praying Mantus.......really really ugly, and can rip the head off a cricket in 2 seconds flat!   :bah:
I'll take my slow, stock Busa thank you very much.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Black-n-Blusa on January 22, 2006, 01:06:06 PM
How many of you have actually seen one in person or sat on one?  I like it and it's way more comfortable to me than a Busa (and I own two Busas).  It's also a ton lighter (43 lbs).  Sling a leg over it and you'll know instantly.  I'll always have room in my garage for one stocker that is my hyper-touring mount, and this is going to be it, for now.  If Suzuki comes up with something I like better, I'll buy that next....
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: GSXRme on January 22, 2006, 01:21:57 PM
What ever happened to taking that $12,000 for buying a new bike and making your current Busa run 8s? I much so rather put a turbo and 1397cc kit on my current Busa then buying another stock.

---Thats my opinion, not yours---
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 22, 2006, 01:42:13 PM
How many of you have actually seen one in person or sat on one?  I like it and it's way more comfortable to me than a Busa (and I own two Busas).  It's also a ton lighter (43 lbs).  Sling a leg over it and you'll know instantly.  I'll always have room in my garage for one stocker that is my hyper-touring mount, and this is going to be it, for now.  If Suzuki comes up with something I like better, I'll buy that next....
those 43lbs difference=empty tank and no oil and water? :?
i doubt it thats much lighter :?
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Big Blue on January 22, 2006, 01:57:37 PM
Guys,
The real deal on this bike is Kawasaki wanted to beat the busa to the punch and they did. The 14 will be the fastest stock production bike for 06 and believe me Suzuki is okay with that. The Kaw boys at the headquarters also know that their Reign will be short lived. The rumours are very serious and they know first hand that there is a strong possibility that the 07 busa will be a 1500. Like GND111 said this bike will run real close to being the same as a street formed 1363 setup. The bike will be strong, but the Big Boyz at both Suzuki and Kawi know that in 07 a new monster will be unveiled that will destroy anything stock that gets in its path. This information is not something I'm pulling from my A**, so believe me we'll see!!
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: rumble phish on January 22, 2006, 02:02:01 PM
How many of you have actually seen one in person or sat on one?  I like it and it's way more comfortable to me than a Busa (and I own two Busas).  It's also a ton lighter (43 lbs).  Sling a leg over it and you'll know instantly.  I'll always have room in my garage for one stocker that is my hyper-touring mount, and this is going to be it, for now.  If Suzuki comes up with something I like better, I'll buy that next....
those 43lbs difference=empty tank and no oil and water? :?
i doubt it thats much lighter :?


Yes, it is THAT MUCH lighter!

I took ALOT of time perusing the 14 at the Cycle World Bike Show. I sat on the Busa and the 14 back to back. Neither had any fluids in them (or batteries). The 14 was significantly lighter than the Busa. It was also narrower and more comfortable to sit on.

I wasn't to impressed with the 14........till I sat on one.

I'll keep my Busa for the track, but the 14 is looking like it'll be my next road bike.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Black-n-Blusa on January 22, 2006, 03:49:03 PM
Sorry, make that 48 lbs lighter:

430 lbs dry vs. 478.   :D
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 22, 2006, 05:29:56 PM
Sorry, make that 48 lbs lighter:

430 lbs dry vs. 478.   :D
omg,if thats true and it has 170rwhp stock,it gonna rip the busa a new one :shock:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: gnd111 on January 22, 2006, 05:30:32 PM
Sorry, make that 48 lbs lighter:

430 lbs dry vs. 478.   :D

430 is gonna be a tough deal.  I see necks snapping now at the dragstrip...
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: J R on January 22, 2006, 05:35:00 PM
You know they aint gonna come out with somthing slow...It will be fast im sure which is better for al of us the consumer and to be honest im sick of seeing all freakin busa, at the track.It wil kinda be nice to see brand wars again at the track 8)
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 22, 2006, 06:02:24 PM
is say 9.6@150 stock now :idea:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: CADDYWOMPUS on January 22, 2006, 06:06:56 PM
 Where did the the 430 lbs number come from? .. Its more  like 480- 490 DRY.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: J R on January 22, 2006, 06:07:53 PM
I say there will be goobers at the track runnin 10,s and 11,s no matter what you put there ass on but they will tel you it runs whatever the magazine says   :lol2:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 22, 2006, 06:10:35 PM
Where did the the 430 lbs number come from? .. Its more  like 480- 490 DRY.
now again if THATS true and it dont dynos 170,its not gonna run 9.5
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 22, 2006, 06:11:20 PM
I say there will be goobers at the track runnin 10,s and 11,s no matter what you put there ass on but they will tel you it runs whatever the magazine says   :lol2:
id say there will be some in the low 12s :lol:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: J R on January 22, 2006, 06:13:21 PM
I say there will be goobers at the track runnin 10,s and 11,s no matter what you put there ass on but they will tel you it runs whatever the magazine says   :lol2:
id say there will be some in the low 12s :lol:
ahh the peeps that slow wont go to a track
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 22, 2006, 06:15:12 PM
I say there will be goobers at the track runnin 10,s and 11,s no matter what you put there ass on but they will tel you it runs whatever the magazine says   :lol2:
id say there will be some in the low 12s :lol:
ahh the peeps that slow wont go to a track
they do over here.you see turbobusas running rock solid 11s here.no kidding :lol:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: J R on January 22, 2006, 06:17:20 PM
I say there will be goobers at the track runnin 10,s and 11,s no matter what you put there ass on but they will tel you it runs whatever the magazine says   :lol2:
id say there will be some in the low 12s :lol:
ahh the peeps that slow wont go to a track
they do over here.you see turbobusas running rock solid 11s here.no kidding :lol:
No way man..My turbo Busa you could take off stop get off take a piss then go again and still run 11,s :lmao:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 22, 2006, 06:19:13 PM
I say there will be goobers at the track runnin 10,s and 11,s no matter what you put there ass on but they will tel you it runs whatever the magazine says   :lol2:
id say there will be some in the low 12s :lol:
ahh the peeps that slow wont go to a track
they do over here.you see turbobusas running rock solid 11s here.no kidding :lol:
No way man..My turbo Busa you could take off stop get off take a piss then go again and still run 11,s :lmao:
no kidding.mid 7s to high7s in the 1/8 :shock:

k5 gixxers 11.5best pass of the day and such stuff :lol:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: J R on January 22, 2006, 06:21:04 PM
I say there will be goobers at the track runnin 10,s and 11,s no matter what you put there ass on but they will tel you it runs whatever the magazine says   :lol2:
id say there will be some in the low 12s :lol:
ahh the peeps that slow wont go to a track
they do over here.you see turbobusas running rock solid 11s here.no kidding :lol:
No way man..My turbo Busa you could take off stop get off take a piss then go again and still run 11,s :lmao:
no kidding.mid 7s to high7s in the 1/8 :shock:

k5 gixxers 11.5best pass of the day and such stuff :lol:
What elevation are you?
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: M Wright on January 22, 2006, 06:23:18 PM
stock.... who cares what it is stock... who leaves them stock!!  :wink:

 How easily can it be modified and how will it handle it.

Its got that wierd ass frame thats going to make turbos a pain for it just like the 12.  That there is enough for me not to care.
Too bad, i was looking forward to Kawi making the bike they should have made in the first place. instead all they did was make a bigger zx-12. 



Well stated, My guess is 181 Hp out of the box.  How close am I Mr. Owens?  Shhh!!!   This bike is quicker and faster than the stock Busa.  Get over it.  We have what is supposed to be the first one in Indiana coming in the early next month.   We will make 3 dyno pulls on it stock then it will be tore down.  There will be faster built bikes out there, but it will fly.       
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 22, 2006, 06:26:19 PM
I say there will be goobers at the track runnin 10,s and 11,s no matter what you put there ass on but they will tel you it runs whatever the magazine says   :lol2:
id say there will be some in the low 12s :lol:
ahh the peeps that slow wont go to a track
they do over here.you see turbobusas running rock solid 11s here.no kidding :lol:
No way man..My turbo Busa you could take off stop get off take a piss then go again and still run 11,s :lmao:
no kidding.mid 7s to high7s in the 1/8 :shock:

k5 gixxers 11.5best pass of the day and such stuff :lol:
What elevation are you?
no special elevation.700feet or so there.
its just because the riders plain suck.you cant dragrace here more then 2or3times a year.its not popular

i was the quartermilepimp with my 10.3et 8) :lol:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: COLDSTONE1300 on January 22, 2006, 06:45:08 PM
While i know it's a stretch, i would love to see a Fully uncorked, piped, mapped ZX-14 in the NExt "King of the Streets" against a few 800+hp cars. 900hp supra's, vettes, and vipers been benchmarking themselves against Stock or piped/mapped busa's for awhile now. Lets see what happens with This particular bike.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Big Blue on January 23, 2006, 01:35:58 AM
It's my understanding that the 14 is only 2lbs lighter then the 12. The bike will now be able to be slammed to the ground like the busa and has a launch light and shift light. The bike will not corner near as well as the 12. The designer stated that if your looking for something to corner well with then you might want to keep your 12, but if you want to go strait line, then she'll get the job done for 06. Again, this bike will be the bike to have for  06, but just wait until 07 and the real king will be out hunting the streets again!!
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: THEMOTORHEAD on January 23, 2006, 07:31:44 AM
TURBOS HERE
GET YER BUSA TURBOS HERE :D
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Busa for hire on January 23, 2006, 08:19:25 AM
Wow, some of you guys are really scared aren't you?

The 14 is gonna kill the Busa. It'll kill it stock for stock. It'll be the quickest production bike ever built.

and you guys will go on about how your turboed Busa's will own any 14 out there.

Then someone will turbo or spray a 14 that'll rape your turbo Busa then you say "yeah but look how ugly the 14 is"


You guys are already making excuses about why the 14 wontill better the Busa. Your using every argument that the 12 owners used and you shot down.

It's painfully obvious how many of you just can't accept the fact that they finally made a bike stronger and faster than our beloved Busa. It's about fucking time! Hell the liter bikes are already giving us more than we can handle. Back when the Busa was new it didn't matter if the rider wasn't as good. it still killed anything in a straight line and most in the curves. Today is different though. The Gixxer1K, the ZX10, the R1, the CBR1KRR all keep up and are within a royal cunt hair of out power and speed (stock to standard mods). It's ALL rider nowadays. The Busa's power can't overcome an average rider against a good rider anymore.


And PUUUHLESE no more "well it wont be the fastest 'cause the 2000 Busa was the las UNRESTRICTED bike". Lets face it, if it wasn't restricted from the factory it would probably kill the Busa's top speed as well.


Let's just let it go and accept that our Busa is a motorcycling Icon. It's the living legend. It will be beat. So what? I still love it.

You guys will be either making more excuses when the 14's numbers are posted or you'll lusting after one and forsaking your faithful Busa.


great post!! couldn't of said it better myself.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: gnd111 on January 23, 2006, 08:36:38 AM
From bikeland.org...

According to the brochure dry weight is 210kg or 462pounds.

Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 23, 2006, 08:43:15 AM
From bikeland.org...

According to the brochure dry weight is 210kg or 462pounds.


if thats true,it aint much lighter then the busa :?
busa is about 210kg dry either.

rumors,rumors :lol:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 23, 2006, 08:44:13 AM
TURBOS HERE
GET YER BUSA TURBOS HERE :D
listen to the man.you guys will need a hairdryier for them zx14s 8)
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Busa for hire on January 23, 2006, 08:54:00 AM
From bikeland.org...

According to the brochure dry weight is 210kg or 462pounds.


if thats true,it aint much lighter then the busa :?
busa is about 210kg dry either.

rumors,rumors :lol:

busa is a little heavier then that bro.. 8) try like 490lbs. dry. 550 wet.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 23, 2006, 08:57:59 AM
From bikeland.org...

According to the brochure dry weight is 210kg or 462pounds.


if thats true,it aint much lighter then the busa :?
busa is about 210kg dry either.

rumors,rumors :lol:

busa is a little heavier then that bro.. 8) try like 490lbs. dry. 550 wet.
were brothers? :? :lol: :lol:

busa wet 248kgs(i know for sure)=545.6lbs :shock:

youre right bro :bah:

i was talking outta my asshole :oops:

soul on the way :wink:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: THEMOTORHEAD on January 23, 2006, 08:58:35 AM
FORGET DRY WEIGHT
ALWAYS ALWAYS GO BY WET WEIGHT
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: THEMOTORHEAD on January 23, 2006, 08:59:24 AM
THE ALUM SUBFRAME BUSAS WERE THE 545
NOW THEY ARE LIL OVER 550
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 23, 2006, 09:00:12 AM
FORGET DRY WEIGHT
ALWAYS ALWAYS GO BY WET WEIGHT
very true.
busa is definatelly 550lbs wet.we know now.
and how muchs the 14r gonna be?anyone know? :?
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: TurboBlew on January 23, 2006, 09:08:42 AM
lol... as if.  The busa was out a full year before the 12.  I distinctly remember maybe 2 or 3 Busas running 9.50s@ 140s on long bikes with pipes, airshifters, and who knows what else at Prostar Nov 99.  Matter of fact, one of the busas was a good friend of mine.  Then Rickey made some passes on the 12. 9.50s@ 150 on a pre production stocker. The stands were pretty quiet then.
Rickey or Muzzy cheat as much as Marasco, NLR, Lee Shierts, or even the Motorhead.    Are you guys gonna call Lee Shierts a cheater when he gets an 07 Busa before anyone else??? (like he did with the 99s??)  8)     Christ.... its a natural progression to want to tinker.  The fact that some companies get a leg up on production bikes is nothing new.

What about the $20k bounty that was posted on Dragbike.com a few years ago.  You had to buy a bike from a random dealer and make it go 9.40s bone stock.  No tweaking, nothing(maybe just a lowering strap).    I see how many stepped up to the plate on that one...lol.

And you guys are right.  I believe the saying is YMMV.  Your Mileage May Vary....


Thats one thing i really have to wonder about why Kawi would have to send a bike somewhere to have it messed with before testing.Thats a bunch of bullshit.Get one outta the box and test the bitch and be real about it.or sooner or later your lies will catch up with you Kawi..... I like Kawi,s but i wanna see real world shit not prepped bikes.The old Busa can be prepped to run well also if tweaked.When I heard they sent a bike to Gadson I had to start thinking somthing dishonest is going on here.Sending a bike off to be tweaked and then claiming its stock...BULLSHIT :evil:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: TurboBlew on January 23, 2006, 09:17:11 AM
Who is this??   
I know most wont believe my motor is stock other than a billet clutch basket (no nitrous, fuel controller, etc)...  but hey if you dont believe me it will cost ya $1500 to find out if you really want to know.  :wink:

....Altho he may not tell you all the little tricks he does to a bike and claim its all stock ill try to catch him at the dealership  :lmao:you know who im talkin to  :wink: :beechug:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: J R on January 23, 2006, 09:21:49 AM
lol... as if.  The busa was out a full year before the 12.  I distinctly remember maybe 2 or 3 Busas running 9.50s@ 140s on long bikes with pipes, airshifters, and who knows what else at Prostar Nov 99.  Matter of fact, one of the busas was a good friend of mine.  Then Rickey made some passes on the 12. 9.50s@ 150 on a pre production stocker. The stands were pretty quiet then.
Rickey or Muzzy cheat as much as Marasco, NLR, Lee Shierts, or even the Motorhead.    Are you guys gonna call Lee Shierts a cheater when he gets an 07 Busa before anyone else??? (like he did with the 99s??)  8)     Christ.... its a natural progression to want to tinker.  The fact that some companies get a leg up on production bikes is nothing new.

What about the $20k bounty that was posted on Dragbike.com a few years ago.  You had to buy a bike from a random dealer and make it go 9.40s bone stock.  No tweaking, nothing(maybe just a lowering strap).    I see how many stepped up to the plate on that one...lol.

And you guys are right.  I believe the saying is YMMV.  Your Mileage May Vary....


Thats one thing i really have to wonder about why Kawi would have to send a bike somewhere to have it messed with before testing.Thats a bunch of bullshit.Get one outta the box and test the bitch and be real about it.or sooner or later your lies will catch up with you Kawi..... I like Kawi,s but i wanna see real world shit not prepped bikes.The old Busa can be prepped to run well also if tweaked.When I heard they sent a bike to Gadson I had to start thinking somthing dishonest is going on here.Sending a bike off to be tweaked and then claiming its stock...BULLSHIT :evil:
Well I know this guy who has one on order see and him and I are gonna go to the strip after he picks it up and find out what it will do  :wink: :lol: ehh right  :?: :D :wink: The only problem I have with the tweaking stuff is I like to know what somthing is stock.I know anything I own wont be stock for long so I like a starting point that real.You and I both Know turbo the Magazines are out to lunch on posted e.t,s and trap speeds for the most part.I just like knowing bone stock what somthing will do thats all.I know anything I own it wouldnt matter but maybe for a day or two till the UPS man gets here  :lol:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: J R on January 23, 2006, 09:25:21 AM
Who is this??   
I know most wont believe my motor is stock other than a billet clutch basket (no nitrous, fuel controller, etc)...  but hey if you dont believe me it will cost ya $1500 to find out if you really want to know.  :wink:

....Altho he may not tell you all the little tricks he does to a bike and claim its all stock ill try to catch him at the dealership  :lmao:you know who im talkin to  :wink: :beechug:
I have never known you to bullshit..unless racing  :lmao: J/K I know you aint gonna spray it right off the bat.Your not much of a nitrous junky anyways. But i do predict some gears and map change  :D I dont care what ya do to it you know me I dont care what it is if its fast ill ride it.Fuck id ride a little red wagon if it went fast enough  :D
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: J R on January 23, 2006, 09:28:59 AM
By the way Turbo, Call me let me know your alive I aint heard from your ass in a few weeks  :?
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: gnd111 on January 23, 2006, 12:20:19 PM
Just get your asses to Gville Sat!
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Richiebusa on January 23, 2006, 01:31:08 PM
went to javits center in n.y. bike show did see the zx14 it mite have the moter to beat the busa but it is eglyyyyyyyyyyyyyy it looks like a 1980 design. they did say the busa was ugly when it came out too. mybe i will have some good racing side by side with the 14,
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: J R on January 23, 2006, 03:43:14 PM
Just get your asses to Gville Sat!
I hope to.My bike is up at stock mild to wild having work done.Kevin/Ryan where checking things out for me carfully on the dyno and was tweeking the map a little and found a  problem  :? one that would have and was defenetly hurting the performance and would have caused me some problems had they not caught it now  or just sent me outta there like it was :shock: They are taking care of the bike for me now.Im not for sure when it will be done.But I know the bitch will be right when it leaves there  :wink:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Mr. Demeanor on January 23, 2006, 04:02:13 PM
Theyre all faster bone stock them 99% of us can use. If I had spent more time becoming a better rider then tweaking my bike I might still be able to see out of my right eye...and be faster on my stock bike  :? My guess is the that most of us spend more time making our bikes faster then makig our riding faster.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Bowman on January 23, 2006, 04:06:08 PM
Theyre all faster bone stock them 99% of us can use. If I had spent more time becoming a better rider then tweaking my bike I might still be able to see out of my right eye...and be faster on my stock bike :? My guess is the that most of us spend more time making our bikes faster then makig our riding faster.

+1 makes a lot of sense. Soul for u :D
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 23, 2006, 04:07:56 PM
Theyre all faster bone stock them 99% of us can use. If I had spent more time becoming a better rider then tweaking my bike I might still be able to see out of my right eye...and be faster on my stock bike  :? My guess is the that most of us spend more time making our bikes faster then makig our riding faster.
very wise comment.but once you ridden a turboed bike the stockers gonna feel very slow :lol:

you made a very good point.the average joe cares to much about mag times wich he will never run anyway.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Zmydust on January 23, 2006, 05:39:29 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that this bike SHOULD be faster. I mean its seven years newer. Do I think the 07 Busa will top it , yes. But the curent Busa does need to be topped, its getting dated. I own a 99, I love it but even looking at the guages and the way everything is beginning to look its dated. 

The new Busa needs to be about 40 lbs lighter ( which is realistic) and 1400-1500 cc's. Hell, they don't have to reinvent the wheel to beat this 14. A strong 1397 and some inventive frame , swingarm, wheel, and exhaust lightening will be plenty.

The current Busa chassis is already an excellent drag and straightline setup. Something the Kawi's have never seemed to be able to accomplish.


Jonathan
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: VPN on January 23, 2006, 07:15:41 PM
"busa is definatelly 550lbs wet.we know now.
and how muchs the 14r gonna be?anyone know?"


It should be less than the old Busa with easily breaking aluminium rear
Max 248kg
Min same as ZX-12R
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It's very good that this Kawasaki will beat the Hay'Bus' in every possible way
The Empire Strikes Back at '07
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: poserdude on January 23, 2006, 07:36:34 PM
I would like to use a manufacturer's scale...I would lose 50 pounds instantly!
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: bigEd on January 23, 2006, 09:28:26 PM
i like kawaski's bikes but damn thats ugly! :puke: for being that ugly it better be fast!

You read my mind.  this is the first picture I've seen of it.  Fucking monstrosity  :shock:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: ZEUS on January 23, 2006, 10:24:14 PM
We will just have to wait and see what the 14 can really do!!
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: D1 on January 24, 2006, 07:22:36 PM
If this is the new Busa they will loooooooose $ this is one ugly machine, maybe fairing would help.The new 14 I saw it sat on it it is not a good looking machine either.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Bowman on January 24, 2006, 07:42:50 PM
If this is the new Busa they will loooooooose $ this is one ugly machine, maybe fairing would help.The new 14 I saw it sat on it it is not a good looking machine either.

huh?
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: GSXRme on January 24, 2006, 08:14:39 PM
If this is the new Busa they will loooooooose $ this is one ugly machine, maybe fairing would help.The new 14 I saw it sat on it it is not a good looking machine either.

huh?

I think he was talking about my post about suzukis 6 cylinder 1100cc Bike motor... but who knows :D
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Bowman on January 24, 2006, 08:21:00 PM
oooo.....lol he confused me :D
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: GSXRme on January 24, 2006, 08:25:07 PM
oooo.....lol he confused me :D

I think he confused himself :duh:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: VPN on January 25, 2006, 07:18:09 PM
That lowered ZX14 looks baaad !!!
Now a longer swingarm some nitrous
so it's ready to push Suzuki to release the new B-King 1500 in Hayabusa clothes
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 25, 2006, 07:38:12 PM
That lowered ZX14 looks baaad !!!
Now a longer swingarm some nitrous
so it's ready to push Suzuki to release the new B-King 1500 in Hayabusa clothes

PUKE@your avatar :D
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Bowman on January 25, 2006, 07:44:53 PM
puke at the avatar and post.....
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 25, 2006, 08:13:40 PM
LMAO,THAT 14 AINT OUT YET AND LOOKS SOO1980OUTDATED.

HORSESHIT>ZX14 :D
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Busa@11K on January 25, 2006, 09:01:01 PM
The first time I saw a Busa I thought it was strange and ugly looking.  Then after a while it grew on me and now I think it looks cool as hell.  I'm sure some people will think the ZX-14 is ugly at first, but will like it later.  Of course there are some people who still think the Busa is ugly, and there will always be some people who think the ZX-14 is ugly.

That's why we live in the USA ... so people can buy what THEY think is cool ... it's a personal choice, and frankly people who bash others for buying what they like are 'tards. :P
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: jtownbusa on January 25, 2006, 09:12:39 PM
ha the body panals remind me of the old rf 900s and that back end is horrible...
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: GSXRme on January 25, 2006, 09:49:38 PM
The first time I saw a Busa I thought it was strange and ugly looking.  Then after a while it grew on me and now I think it looks cool as hell.  I'm sure some people will think the ZX-14 is ugly at first, but will like it later.  Of course there are some people who still think the Busa is ugly, and there will always be some people who think the ZX-14 is ugly.

That's why we live in the USA ... so people can buy what THEY think is cool ... it's a personal choice, and frankly people who bash others for buying what they like are 'tards. :P

Yes the ZX-14 is ugly.. but so was the Busa when I saw it...

 :twisted: ...BUT WHY A BANANA SEAT..!!!! OMFG!!!! :evil:
 :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Twisted on January 25, 2006, 10:41:16 PM
The first time I saw a Busa I thought it was strange and ugly looking.  Then after a while it grew on me and now I think it looks cool as hell.  I'm sure some people will think the ZX-14 is ugly at first, but will like it later.  Of course there are some people who still think the Busa is ugly, and there will always be some people who think the ZX-14 is ugly.

That's why we live in the USA ... so people can buy what THEY think is cool ... it's a personal choice, and frankly people who bash others for buying what they like are 'tards. :P


you're the only guy that bike will grow on unless someone wants to go back in time when sportbikes had uni seats and no rear cowlings... most likely you'll be going underwater so those fins will come in handy....  :D
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Busa@11K on January 26, 2006, 02:22:12 AM
you're the only guy that bike will grow on unless someone wants to go back in time when sportbikes had uni seats and no rear cowlings... most likely you'll be going underwater so those fins will come in handy....  :D

As much fookin' rain as we've gotten lately, I think fins would be a good thing. :lmao:

I'm sure the engineers at Kawasaki will make some visual changes in year 2 or 3 due to all the negative peer pressure.  :P

Page 9 bitches ...  :wink:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 26, 2006, 06:07:41 AM
imo,the busas still very ugly.the way it comes bonestock is :no:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Harvel1 on January 26, 2006, 04:59:28 PM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e53/harvel1/zx14r5.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e53/harvel1/zx14r7.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e53/harvel1/zx14r6.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e53/harvel1/zx14r2.jpg)
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Gixxer1300r on January 26, 2006, 05:42:16 PM
183 hp bone stock is true

Yes I remember when the zx10 was said to dyno at a low 160 thier first year, I seen two at koups kawasaki that same year one brand new one had 148.0 and the other with 3K on the clock and a slip on had 151. I was more suprised by the brand new R1 that had the stock under seat can gutted a filter, a Powercommander and tuning that pulled a 165 and yammy wasn't hyping that bike as much as kaw was the 10.

Also the 12 was the busa killer in 2K, again more hype, I'm sure the 14 will be fast, but beware of the hype and first year bugs
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 26, 2006, 06:10:22 PM
183 hp bone stock is true

Yes I remember when the zx10 was said to dyno at a low 160 thier first year, I seen two at koups kawasaki that same year one brand new one had 148.0 and the other with 3K on the clock and a slip on had 151. I was more suprised by the brand new R1 that had the stock under seat can gutted a filter, a Powercommander and tuning that pulled a 165 and yammy wasn't hyping that bike as much as kaw was the 10.

Also the 12 was the busa killer in 2K, again more hype, I'm sure the 14 will be fast, but beware of the hype and first year bugs
183is true.at the crank with ramair effect :lol:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: COLDSTONE1300 on January 26, 2006, 10:47:10 PM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e53/harvel1/zx14r5.jpg)

Weird as it sounds, it's starting to Grow on me. Just has that "aura" the zx-11 had. Black, menacing and powerful.

I truly hope it's faster. I hope when "bike killer" cars short of 900hp meet one they learn the top bike benchmark has been raised beyond their grasp even in the hands of a squid rider who can barely tuck and bang gears. If this thing is slower, even if we do get a new busa it won't be a good as it could be if the zx-14 lives up to the hype.

People say kawi has had years to prepare this. I don't see much sleeping happening at Suzuki R&D over these years either. The caliber of the new ninja will decide what Prototype will be the New Hayabusa.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: E-RACER on January 26, 2006, 11:01:16 PM
As much as a busa needs the Hump on for pics..it should be a Crime to take  a pic of a 14 without it!!!! :yes:

Growing on Me too and looks Mucho better lowered!!!!
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Twisted on January 26, 2006, 11:04:01 PM
suzie will not revamp the busa, if anything they will discontinue but why would they kill a money maker? if anything gets close to the hayabusas top speed they will get serious about releasing the stratosphere er somethin? I dont see the 14 being any kind of threat and honestly the reason kawasaki has a hard time selling sportbikes is when you compare them to whats out there they really do lack in looks...

this..........................

(http://www.mcnews.com.au/NewBikeCatalogue/2006/yamaha/yzf-r6/2006_yzf-r6_mono_edwards_700p.jpg)

or this.....................

(http://www.cmgonline.com/bikes/models/Kawasaki/ZX14/2006/BigP/06_ZX14_rhs_bg.jpg)

sorry, couldnt find any images of a 14 up on one....
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: J R on January 26, 2006, 11:07:16 PM
Those pic,s look better than others ive seen
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Twisted on January 26, 2006, 11:08:23 PM
As much as a busa needs the Hump on for pics..it should be a Crime to take  a pic of a 14 without it!!!! :yes:

Growing on Me too and looks Mucho better lowered!!!!

thats nice, I hope you take one in as your daily, sportbikers need a good laugh every now and then....  :D
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Twisted on January 26, 2006, 11:13:16 PM
and a big FU  :bigfu: to qwakasicki for trying to drive the price of sportbikes up! 11.300 for a 10?

and WTF does n/a mean when it comes to wheelbase? idiots!
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: E-RACER on January 26, 2006, 11:15:52 PM
Nuts..what is it with Me and You?/My Busa is My daily as well as My 1000.. :wink:

Maybe I will get one and see who will laugh then!! :P

Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Twisted on January 26, 2006, 11:39:01 PM
Nuts..what is it with Me and You?/My Busa is My daily as well as My 1000.. :wink:

Maybe I will get one and see who will laugh then!! :P



um I dunno?

you'll never catch me on one of those piles, I can peddle pretty fookin fast...  :wink:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: denise richards on January 27, 2006, 05:40:59 AM
im dead serious the topspeed of the zx14is supposed to be no more then 180mph :shock:
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: Wolf1397 on January 28, 2006, 12:26:38 PM
The first time I saw a Busa I thought it was strange and ugly looking.  Then after a while it grew on me and now I think it looks cool as hell. 

+1
 
My Busa is a keeper.  Wish I would have kept my 1983 Katana...
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: gnd111 on January 28, 2006, 12:31:09 PM
Sorry but that side profile is horrible for that bike.
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: J R on January 28, 2006, 03:00:07 PM
The pic,s Kawasaki has out.I think its bad ugly.The pic,s ricky Gadson took for some reson makes the bike look a little better.But the side veiw Kawi took it is one ugly ass fuckin bike.But it may grow on me who knows as of now I think its pretty damn ugly.Maybe in person it wouldnt be so bad ? after market pipe and arm and lowered and do somthing with the body work who knows.I hated the busa when they very first came out as far as looks go.Now I own one  :?
Title: Re: lowered ZX14 ready for action.....
Post by: D on January 28, 2006, 03:08:20 PM
and a big FU  :bigfu: to qwakasicki for trying to drive the price of sportbikes up! 11.300 for a 10?

and WTF does n/a mean when it comes to wheelbase? idiots!

58"