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GENERAL => BIKE TALK => Topic started by: Shamrock on March 15, 2006, 08:55:36 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Kawasaki-KZ-1000-R-TC-KAWASAKI-KZ-1000-R-TC-TURBO-CHARGED_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6710QQitemZ4621411368QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
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I love those bikes. One went up for sale here in the Northwest 2 years ago. The guy wanted 3500 for it. It needed work but I was so tempted. They have mechanical waste gates and alot of the original owners cranked up the boost and blew the motors. They came with NO manufacturers warranty. Thay ran 10 flats with just about anybody riding them and they did it on those old skinny hard rubber non radial tires. I wish the factories would get the turbo bug again and make a 2007 version of one of those old things. I've got an old 84 750 turbo that I'd post pics of if I could figure out how.
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God that seat is HIDEOUS!
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THERES NO SUCH THING AS A 1979 Z1R
78 HAD SMALL TANK 80 LARGER
AS WELL AS DIFF FORK OFFSET ETC
THAT ONE THERES GOT MOLLY GRAPHICS AND IS THE LATTER VERSION VS THE STOCK PAINT SCHEME AND LOGRAM MANIFOLDS
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PUNCH THAT FUCKER FOR THAT ABORTION HE CALLS A SEAT
AND YA DIDNT REALIZE ATP WAS DOIN EM IN 79 WHICH MAKES SENSE SINCE THEY GOT PAINT ETC.
THAT WAS ACTUALLY BILL HAHN SR.THAT OWNED ATP(BEST RECOLLECTION)
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Back in 91, I went up to Columbus (National Trail) Drags with a buddy of the time who rode a Kawi 1000 ZL1 Turbo. Guy weighed about 250 but could really ride drags or twisties. The Kawi had some serious reliability problems at the drags but he went like 138mph AFTER losing the motor 2/3's of the way down! Wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it myself. Can't remember the e.t. Motor was a little bit shaky cause the boost was way up and he blew it up the night before making money street racing; we had rebuilt the thing during the night in the parking lot of the motel. Fast in a straight line but no match for a Busa or any other modern bike in any other respect.
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Thought they were only made in 78...and NEVER in those colors...Worked on one way back...Fast back then.
Dave
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Non Turbo's Z1R's were bluish silver in 78 and black in 80. I dunno what years the Zur Turbo's were made though...
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http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/bikes/Kawasaki.htm
Make Model
Kawasaki Z1-R Turbo
Year
1979
Engine
Air cooled, four stroke, transverse four cylinder, Turbo charged, DOHC, 2 Valves per cylinder.
Capacity
1015
Bore x Stroke 70 x 66 mm
Compression Ratio 8.0:1
Induction
40mm Bendix carb
Ignition / Starting
Max Power
126 hp @ 8000 rpm
Max Torque
Transmission / Drive
5 Speed / chain
Front Suspension
36mm Telescopic forks
Rear Suspension
Dual shocks with 5-way spring preload.
Front Brakes
2x 295mm discs
Rear Brakes
Single 295mm disc
Front Tyre
100/90
Rear Tyre
120/90 V18
Dry-Weight / Wet-weight
- / 245 kg
Fuel Capacity
Consumption average
42 mpg
Braking 60 - 0 / 100 - 0
Standing ¼ Mile
11.4 sec / 123 mph
Top Speed
158 mph est
http://www.themotorbookstore.com/kaw90four19.html
Not sure what years they did or didn't make them but i have found some links to info...
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My Z1 / KZ days (and there were a lot of 'em) are long gone. Thankfully. Back in the late '90s I built the bike I always wanted when I was 20. This was a street bike. It had a Magnuson supercharger, Cal-Fab aluminum swingarm, and 3.5" wheel in back that would take a "big" 150. When I rode it for the first time, I realized how some things are best left as memories. :|
By 2004 I sold the last of my dragbikes and got rid of all but a few last pieces.
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THERES NO SUCH THING AS A 1979 Z1R
78 HAD SMALL TANK 80 LARGER
AS WELL AS DIFF FORK OFFSET ETC
THAT ONE THERES GOT MOLLY GRAPHICS AND IS THE LATTER VERSION VS THE STOCK PAINT SCHEME AND LOGRAM MANIFOLDS
That is in correct there were 79 ZIRs they were left over 78s that were repainted black some of them you could see the blue in the gas cap well. They were titled as 79's also!
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I bought this new in 1980 for 3200.00. The 80's rode alot better than the 78's, as they made some changes to the 80 model. I put the turbo on in 1984 and have ridden it like that ever since.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Turboz1r@aol.com/Busa/Bike%20Stuff/Turbo.jpg)
Father and Son
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Turboz1r@aol.com/Busa/Dscn0496.jpg)
Ride safe, Mike in NJ
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I bought a brand new 1978 KZ 650 when I was about 28 years younger. I loved that bike. I could usually whip a Honda 750 on it.
I remember the frame was a little weak. They got this high speed wobble that'd scare the shiat out of you. After learning that, everything was fine. Great bikes.
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I have had 5 different Kawasaki 750 turbos. Currently have 2 of them. Here is an old pic of the now 230hp beast. I'll take new pics sometme this Summer.
(http://www.smartgroups.com/picvault/34257194.jpg/tn_drag750rh2.jpg)
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230 hp :shock:
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thats a clean moly graphics bike.....damn! 9500!
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Busashot, 880? Any intercooing? Did you get all of HPU's stuff. Stage 5?
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sorry here is a better pic. :lol:this is a old TMH bike.
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c192/blownzoom440/The20Bike2.jpg)
ya the pic sucks but i dont have a scanner. :shock:edit!here is a scanned pic.
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there ya go i updated the pic above.sorry the last 1 was so bad.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c192/blownzoom440/The20Bike2.jpg
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THERES NO SUCH THING AS A 1979 Z1R
78 HAD SMALL TANK 80 LARGER
AS WELL AS DIFF FORK OFFSET ETC
THAT ONE THERES GOT MOLLY GRAPHICS AND IS THE LATTER VERSION VS THE STOCK PAINT SCHEME AND LOGRAM MANIFOLDS
That is in correct there were 79 ZIRs they were left over 78s that were repainted black some of them you could see the blue in the gas cap well. They were titled as 79's also!
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By 1978 the "King" -- a.k.a Kawasaki's legendary Z1 -- saw its prior performance supremacy eclipsed by the competition, mainly Suzuki's GS1000, Honda's CBX, and even Yamaha's XS1100. A bold stroke was needed -- and fast (pun intended). Hence the Z1RTC Turbo. Though not a true "factory" product, the Z Turbo nonetheless was the harbinger of future factory Turbo efforts to follow.
The Z1RTC was built by the Turbo Cycle Corporation (the TC in Z1RTC) utilizing American Turbo-Pak (ATP) turbocharging kits. TC Corp., headed by former Kawasaki marketing director Alan Masek, essentially bought the turbocharger units from ATP, bolted them up to existing Kawasaki Z1Rs and sold them through "select" Kawasaki dealerships, without warranty (you're on your own, kid). The kits were essentially basic Z1 kits sold over the counter, however they featured an improved (No. 370F40) Rayjay turbocharger which utilized a thicker heat shield separating the turbine and compressor housings and a new center-bearing that offered improved lubrication. The turbocharger's wastegate came pre-set to operate at 6-8 lbs. of boost, but could easily be insanely increased via an adjusting screw on the bottom of the wastegate. But since the Z1RTC's crank pins were inexplicably not welded -- a common Z1 performance modification -- your $5,000 investment wouldn't last very long if you got the urge to "boost up." And you'd undoubtedly need to run racing fuel to keep the engine from grenading.
In '78 silver-blue trim the Z1RTC was not exactly a sales success. So TCC painted the remaining warehoused Turbos jet black and added racy red/orange/yellow Molly graphics in an effort to make the bikes more appealing. The marketing ploy worked, but some of the credit had to go to the bike's growing reputation as a two-wheeled hellraiser. TCC even added an improved "spider"-type header to replace the ugly "log"-type unit and the Z1RTCs sold out quickly in '79. But the euphoria over the bike's new-found showroom success was short lived as a new law in California made it illegal for dealers to sell any motorcycles with a modified exhaust system (and a turbocharger is about as modified as you can get). So there were no Z1RTCs in 1980 and the "experiment" was dead.
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Busashot, 880? Any intercooing? Did you get all of HPU's stuff. Stage 5?
Actually has the 810. Stage 5 turbo re-modified by friend who does better work than who Mike used. Nothing against Mike but the person who did the work needs to learn how to pay attention to detail. Next year I will be utilizing an 880 w/major headwork, larger cams and a Stage 6 turbo(Same stock Hitachi turbo). Shooting for 250hp plus 20hp NOS setup. Should be nasty for an ole 2V small engine.
There is another guy on the 750turbo board that has utilized a Powercommander to help tune for better part throttle performance. He made nearly 240hp with 810, Stage 5. He has headwork, cams as well.
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And nobody believes me when I say my 810 2nd stage will make 160hp. What a sleeper you have there.
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I think Jim Votter (spelling) had or has one that ran well into the eights and it was a 810 motor that had never been apart from the base gasket down. The bike was in a Cycle World UFO shootout years ago I believe.
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Here was my version 79 MKII it wasnt real fast ran 9.50s but was a fun bike drove it all over the streets and was a hot rod bike
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/tlindys/a5ab2d7b.jpg)
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I think Jim Votter (spelling) had or has one that ran well into the eights and it was a 810 motor that had never been apart from the base gasket down. The bike was in a Cycle World UFO shootout years ago I believe.
I think it was Motorcyclist Tom but you are right....I remember it.
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how about 1 of these? my dad bought this bike new, just had it out today. :lol:
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d100/turbo1397/Photo270.jpg)
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Or One of these,
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Turboz1r@aol.com/Busa/72H2.jpg)
Ride safe, Mike in NJ
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damn thats a clean 72! that was my first streetbike. stocker?
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The Z1R's were actually uncrated at ATP (American Turbo Pak) in Santa Ana, Ca, Turbo installed along with the new TC side cover emblem, recrated and then shipped on. ATP was owned by Bill Hahn Sr. but he sold out not long after the RTC thing started. Bill was one sharp dude. As a teenager I used to hang around ATP. Even remember when Jr. was born. I had a 750 Honda with his kit and then did a Z1 around 1977. Compared to today they were slow but just like today they were damn near as fast as a Pro Stock was then and at the time the Pro Stock leader was Terry Vance / Byron Hines, both working for RC engineering (Russ Collins), in Gardeana, CA. Aah the good old days! God this seems like a lifetime ago!
That is one clean H2. Any chance it's for sale? That too was my first bike in Jan. 1972 and I'd like to find one just for fun.
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what would that 71 h1 be worth? dad has been talking about selling it, 1 owner, 8k he has the stockairbox forit as well.
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Ant and Hog,
Thanks for the compliments on my H2. Sorry, it is not for sale, I will probably keep it for ever. My best friend worked at a Kawasaki dealer in the 70's and he built many out of the crate. We did mine from front to back, and made it the way we rode them back in the 70's.
Still very cool to go out for a little spin, and see the young kids look when they hear the two stroke on the road.
Ride safe, Mike in NJ
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SHIT THIS BIKE WAS RUNNIN 920S 160 PLUS BACK IN 88
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c192/blownzoom440/The20Bike2.jpg)
MADE OVER 300 HP
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this was my buddys 1425 turbo. "half credit" passed a few years ago, miss him dearly!
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d100/turbo1397/halfcredit.jpg)
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turboz1r, have any idea what the 71 h1 might be worth?
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Ant,
Probably 3500 - 4000, 5000 if it is the right person. My buddy just sold a really nice 74 H2 green for 7500.00. I also heard there was a new, never ridden 72 H2 blue on E Bay for like 15,000. I guess its how bad someone wants what you have.
Take care, Mike
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this was my buddys 1425 turbo. "half credit" passed a few years ago, miss him dearly!
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d100/turbo1397/halfcredit.jpg)
this or that other one up the line would hurt some feelings on the street if you got the right jockey.I loved them light to light killers.bike is awesome.
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I was a senior in high school when the Kawi 1000 turbo came out.......
Dam, I wanted one of those things so bad I could taste it! Oh well, my ole trusty CB750 was fun anyway..
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I rode a H1 once the bitch vibrated so bad it about gave me a cardiac arrest!
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! Oh well, my ole trusty CB750 was fun anyway..
Mine still is. :wink: