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Title: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes **fixed!!** now another problem
Post by: nykon on April 06, 2006, 12:15:17 AM
Ok since I have determined its not the battery or the charger, what could be causeing my problem?

The bike starts and runs absolutly beautiful for about 10 minutes then will just stutter and die and refue to restart. When I check my battery the charge drops about .2volts each time, unless charged.

I started the bike took it up and down the street a dozen or so times and it ran like new or even better than new. I went all the way up to 4th gear with only minimal sluggishness then it smoothed out and ran great. Then about 10 minutes pass and she dies and wont start.

Could it be the rectifier as stated in my battery thread or could it be a burnt out fuel pump? The idle seems a little choppy but maybe varies by 50-100rpm. The thottle seems sluggish and unresponsive until it warms up then smooths out nicely.

I am starting to lean towards the fuel pump, but I am honestly not sure. If you guys need I can even make a video of it running so you can see and hear what I am.


The above is fixed, I had a kinked return line.

Heres my newest problem;

The bike runs very strong until I try to go wide open throttle. It will just fall on its face until I let off. It seems to noise dive as if I am hitting the limiter. All fuel filters are new/removed/or cleaned less than 100 miles ago. Any ideas?

I know posted this later in the pages but I am making it easier to read. Hope BigGar is happy now.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: THEMOTORHEAD on April 06, 2006, 12:20:37 AM
CLOGGED FUEL SCREENS OR PUMPS GOIN
OLD NEWS
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: E-RACER on April 06, 2006, 12:30:07 AM
And/or make sure the fuel lines arent kinking when the tanks comes down..
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: nykon on April 06, 2006, 01:07:25 AM
CLOGGED FUEL SCREENS OR PUMPS GOIN
OLD NEWS

All brand new filters.

Pumps my thoughts.

there any way to test the pump its self?
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: nykon on April 06, 2006, 01:09:11 AM
And/or make sure the fuel lines arent kinking when the tanks comes down..

I have all brand new lines on. I check many times before seating the tank all the way. So I should be ok there.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: 396 on April 06, 2006, 01:21:15 AM
if the pump has never been changed I would suspect that first. Several different places in the stock pump that clog. Also, be sure to check the mesh screen filter inside the tank, it will also develope a build up of soot and will cause starvation before it ever gets to the pump. Located on the underside of the tank. remove from bike and unscrew the bolts.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: nykon on April 06, 2006, 01:36:59 AM
if the pump has never been changed I would suspect that first. Several different places in the stock pump that clog. Also, be sure to check the mesh screen filter inside the tank, it will also develope a build up of soot and will cause starvation before it ever gets to the pump. Located on the underside of the tank. remove from bike and unscrew the bolts.
hmm

All the filters and screens are eitehr cleaned or replaced in the pump housing and fuel injectors.
Didnt know there were filters in the tank itself. Ill take it out tomarrow and check it.

And yes its the original pump.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: tinmann8 on April 06, 2006, 11:45:25 AM
Is there a way to prevent this from happening in the first place? Would a good gas treatment/fuel injector cleaner prevent the screens from clogging?
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: nykon on April 06, 2006, 12:27:57 PM
Is there a way to prevent this from happening in the first place? Would a good gas treatment/fuel injector cleaner prevent the screens from clogging?

You shouldnt have to worry unless you have a 99, but it cut my regular teardown down of the pump for cleaning by about 2-3 months, meaning I got 2-3 more months before I had to clean the screens. You'll still have to do it, but it gives you a little extra time.



So is everyone pretty satisfied that its my fuel pump? Cause I'll end up getting a replace ment if it is.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: nykon on April 06, 2006, 01:01:58 PM

There are many things that could be causing the issue. In "Dealer Mode" are you getting any error codes?

1. Make certain the fuel tank vents are NOT pinched closed, as that would cause an increasing vacuum in the fuel tank which eventually cuts off fuel. As soon as the engine dies next time, immediately open the fuel tank and listen for a whoosh of air. Also, try starting the engine again, immediately after having opened the fuel tank.

2. Make certain your fuel lines are not crimping once the engine heats up. They may not be crimped fully while cold but once the heat of the engine softens them, it may allow the fuel inlet hose to the pump to crimp and close off.

3. After the engine has shut down (which you indicated takes roughly 10 minutes), when you turn the ignition key to the "On" position, can you hear the fuel pump running? There's always a chance the fuel pump relay coil has developed a shorted turn in its winding which is causing it to drop its relay contacts, cutting off voltage to your fuel pump.   

4. How long do you have to wait before you can actually start the engine once again?

I don't have the code reader for dealer mode.

1: That could be the very problem!! I remember putting the tank back and cursing at the vent lines as they kept getting in the way.


2: I'll quadruple check the lines.


3: Yes if I turn the key, I can hear the pump cycling fuel through. I can see it flow through my inline filter.


4: I usually dont get the engine started again for a while, I usually put it back on the charger and wait an hour or so.



I'll test these all once I get home from work, which wont be for about 9 hours.  :?
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: jeffw on April 06, 2006, 05:39:00 PM


I don't have the code reader for dealer mode.


JDMS isa what you need..... to put your bike into dealer mode for the error code...... or temp you could use a papger clip.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: 396 on April 06, 2006, 06:22:50 PM
real easy to do.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: sunnie on April 06, 2006, 07:29:40 PM
Are you sure the lines are not crossed from tank to pump?????????????????????
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: nykon on April 08, 2006, 04:49:11 PM
Well, thanks quasar for you help. There was one vent line under the tank the was pniched. made sure they flowed without them pinching. Started the bike, it ran for 10 minutes then cut out.

Then decided to change the oil since the bike was warm, low and behold theres not a wrench of any kind to be found in over $10,000 of tools that will fit the filter. SO now I cant even change the damn oil. I am about to just kick the damn thing over and sell it. I cant deal with this shit anymore... I have no money to have it looked at let alone get it fixed. I am about to sell the whole damn bike to pay off the remaining $1000 on the loan. I just cant keep thinking its done and ready and have this keep happening.


I give up..
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: busamagic on April 08, 2006, 04:54:31 PM
are you anywhere close to lexington,ky? if so i could come help ya and try to figure it out.i am not master bike mechanic but together we could probably get it going.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: oneway on April 08, 2006, 06:28:51 PM
Fuel pump?
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: sambusa on April 09, 2006, 08:36:09 PM
when he stall how much volt in the battery
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: nykon on April 10, 2006, 08:57:56 PM
when he stall how much volt in the battery

12.6+
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: sambusa on April 10, 2006, 09:40:38 PM
It's OK for the ECU
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: dogman on April 10, 2006, 09:46:58 PM
I have had 2 99 Busa's..Both of them have done this..Get a fuel pump from someone on the board..Usually put 8 to 10 thousnd on both of the bikes and it would do this..Then at 18 or 20.000 I would have to do the same thing..I always found a fuel pump off one of the boards..Also when it does not start raise your tank and jiggle the fuel lines then it will usually start..Get another pump and you will be fine for awhile.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: nykon on April 10, 2006, 11:52:31 PM
I have had 2 99 Busa's..Both of them have done this..Get a fuel pump from someone on the board..Usually put 8 to 10 thousnd on both of the bikes and it would do this..Then at 18 or 20.000 I would have to do the same thing..I always found a fuel pump off one of the boards..Also when it does not start raise your tank and jiggle the fuel lines then it will usually start..Get another pump and you will be fine for awhile.

ok, Ill try and raise some funds and pick one up. I am just over 11k miles right now.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: BUSGO on April 11, 2006, 06:22:12 PM
I am not gonna say it is not the fuel pump. However, my 99 busa has 80,000 ks on the original pump and apart from cleaning the filters sometimes it is ok.  By the way.  Toss the screen from between the pump and the fuel regulator.

May I suggest you check both the KILL switch and the sidestand switch in case they are not making contact properly.

I had a bad contact on my sidestand switch and it kept causing the engine to cut in and out while I was riding along.

Worth a try mate.
Regards
BUSGO
Newcastle AUSTRALIA
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: Todd on April 12, 2006, 12:45:59 AM
If by "kill switch" you are referring to the "tip-over" switch - then I also concur that it would be very much worth checking - especially considering all the items he has already marked off the list.

Back in 2000, my Busa would do the same as you are describing, but I would get about 20 minutes or so out of it if bike was cold/had been sitting initially.

Not so long at all if warm or recently ridden.

Battery would get drained to nothing trying to restart - it would restart and run (a long blurb really) if persistently cranked over, then promptly sputter and die.

I went through the same song and dance as you have - fuel filters/screens, checking fuel pump, fuel hoses, connections etc.

Anyway - long story short - it was the tip over sensor.

Sensor was plugged in and looked "fine" but I unplugged it anyway and sprayed the connectors with contact cleaner.

After that, I never had the problem again.   :moped:
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: nykon on April 12, 2006, 04:29:16 AM
If by "kill switch" you are referring to the "tip-over" switch - then I also concur that it would be very much worth checking - especially considering all the items he has already marked off the list.

Back in 2000, my Busa would do the same as you are describing, but I would get about 20 minutes or so out of it if bike was cold/had been sitting initially.

Not so long at all if warm or recently ridden.

Battery would get drained to nothing trying to restart - it would restart and run (a long blurb really) if persistently cranked over, then promptly sputter and die.

I went through the same song and dance as you have - fuel filters/screens, checking fuel pump, fuel hoses, connections etc.

Anyway - long story short - it was the tip over sensor.

Sensor was plugged in and looked "fine" but I unplugged it anyway and sprayed the connectors with contact cleaner.

After that, I never had the problem again.   :moped:

ok, I'll check that in the morning.

Thanks.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: JW OLDBUSA on April 12, 2006, 07:00:45 AM
Elimate all screens and just do a good filter before the pump. Do big loops in lines as they can kink easy. (ask me how I know this after pushing bike for many miles back). I went aftermarket pump and regulator, got 2 t- fittings for fuel rail (Ron Ayres) to go in one and out the other to get rid of vapor lock also. Although I still have some problems with vapor lock the pump never fails.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: nykon on April 12, 2006, 04:45:56 PM
If by "kill switch" you are referring to the "tip-over" switch - then I also concur that it would be very much worth checking - especially considering all the items he has already marked off the list.

Back in 2000, my Busa would do the same as you are describing, but I would get about 20 minutes or so out of it if bike was cold/had been sitting initially.

Not so long at all if warm or recently ridden.

Battery would get drained to nothing trying to restart - it would restart and run (a long blurb really) if persistently cranked over, then promptly sputter and die.

I went through the same song and dance as you have - fuel filters/screens, checking fuel pump, fuel hoses, connections etc.

Anyway - long story short - it was the tip over sensor.

Sensor was plugged in and looked "fine" but I unplugged it anyway and sprayed the connectors with contact cleaner.

After that, I never had the problem again.   :moped:

His TOS is not likely the issue in this case as he indicated, after his engine dies, he can hear his fuel pump running when he turns the ignition key to the "On" position.

As per Chapter 4, page 19 of the Hayabusa's Service Manual, the TOS cuts off supply current to the fuel pump, fuel injectors and ignition coils when it's activated. If the TOS were activated, he would never hear the fuel pump running.

Nykon, have you put it in "dealer mode" yet? If so, do you get any code other than C00? (C00 indicates no malfunctions)

acorrding to my manual it needs some sorta lcd thing to hook to display the dealer codes. Which I dont have.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: BUSGO on April 12, 2006, 09:20:32 PM
All you need to do to activate the dealer codes is short circuit the plug under the seat with a paper clip or bared wire but be careful not to earth it out on the frame or something.

Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: nykon on April 12, 2006, 09:53:32 PM
All you need to do to activate the dealer codes is short circuit the plug under the seat with a paper clip or bared wire but be careful not to earth it out on the frame or something.



will it display the codes in the odometer or clock?
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: BUSGO on April 13, 2006, 02:23:49 AM
In the clock but you have to turn the ignition on of course after you cross the wires.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: gsxturbo on April 13, 2006, 03:24:46 AM
if you need a fuel pump let me know i got two of them one came of my 2000 busa the other came of a motor that only had 2000 miles on it i will cut you a great deal on it if you need it
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: nykon on April 14, 2006, 06:23:13 PM
Ok so heres an update.

I finally got a decent filter wrench and finished the oil change.

Started the bike, turned over and started up right away. tried to put the bike in gear and it died. Started the bike in gear and took it up the street and on my way back it died. Pushed the starter button and she fired back up and got me to my driveway were she idled at 1k rpm and died shortly after.

I tried lifting the tank and tried starting her again and I only got the normal were she just wouldnt fire.

I then tried starting the bike while the tank was up to take a look at my inline fuel filter, its clear so I figured I could get a rough basis on how the fuel was being brought through the lines.  Every time I tried starting her , shed' die and I could hear the fuel pump trying to suck fuel. But by watching the fuel filter I could see that there was no change of the fuel inside the filter. It didnt even budge.

So does that just mean the pump is toast or could there be other problems? I may see if I can borrow a friends video camera and I could tape the bike for a better diagnosis.

forgot to test the tos, but I'll do that after work.

Lastly, in dealer mode I was showing C00, or no malfunctions.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: nykon on April 14, 2006, 09:38:41 PM
ok another update,


I checked and cleadned the TOS.


I then propt the tank up and started the bike, again fired right up. Its dark now so I can see the filer really clearly. The flow maintained the same amount the entire time the bike was running. It ran , at idle , for almost 20 minutes. 10 longer than normal. I then decided to try my luck. I put the tank down rolled her outta the garage and clicked into first got to the end of the driveway and dead.

It ran absolutely perfect until I put the tank down. Should I take out the pickup on the tank and see if theres sediment or something that's blocking it?

Any other ideas are greatly appreciated, if nothing else I may have to buy a new pump this coming week and hope that fixes it.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: nykon on April 14, 2006, 10:10:37 PM
ok another update,


I checked and cleadned the TOS.


I then propt the tank up and started the bike, again fired right up. Its dark now so I can see the filer really clearly. The flow maintained the same amount the entire time the bike was running. It ran , at idle , for almost 20 minutes. 10 longer than normal. I then decided to try my luck. I put the tank down rolled her outta the garage and clicked into first got to the end of the driveway and dead.

It ran absolutely perfect until I put the tank down. Should I take out the pickup on the tank and see if theres sediment or something that's blocking it?

Any other ideas are greatly appreciated, if nothing else I may have to buy a new pump this coming week and hope that fixes it.

Yes, pull the fuel pump if you have to and make certain the inlet to the fuel pump is not clogged. That's why I told you to try running the engine with the tank propped up (via my PM), so any sediment would fall to the back of the tank and allow the engine to run. It really sounds like it's being starved for fuel especially since it ran fine until the tank was lowered once again.

You should also raise your idle to 1,150~1,200-RPM. 1,000-RPM is too low and will make it prone to stalling out.

ok will try that after work. It's 10pm and a little to late to start now.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: nykon on April 14, 2006, 11:08:01 PM
ok another update,


I checked and cleadned the TOS.


I then propt the tank up and started the bike, again fired right up. Its dark now so I can see the filer really clearly. The flow maintained the same amount the entire time the bike was running. It ran , at idle , for almost 20 minutes. 10 longer than normal. I then decided to try my luck. I put the tank down rolled her outta the garage and clicked into first got to the end of the driveway and dead.

It ran absolutely perfect until I put the tank down. Should I take out the pickup on the tank and see if theres sediment or something that's blocking it?

Any other ideas are greatly appreciated, if nothing else I may have to buy a new pump this coming week and hope that fixes it.

Yes, pull the fuel pump if you have to and make certain the inlet to the fuel pump is not clogged. That's why I told you to try running the engine with the tank propped up (via my PM), so any sediment would fall to the back of the tank and allow the engine to run. It really sounds like it's being starved for fuel especially since it ran fine until the tank was lowered once again.

You should also raise your idle to 1,150~1,200-RPM. 1,000-RPM is too low and will make it prone to stalling out.

ok will try that after work. It's 10pm and a little to late to start now.

Don't pull the fuel pump, my mistake (you have a 99, so your pump is not in the tank). You need to pull the fuel pick up screens from your fuel tank.

Be very careful when draining your fuel. Gasoline is some seriously dangerous liquid. Make certain there are no pilots, flames or sparks from brushes of motors anywhere in the vicinity when you drain the tank because it's practically impossible to not spill at least some fuel.

I knew what you ment. Trust me I have drained the tank about 2 dozen times and have become quite proficent at it.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: nykon on April 15, 2006, 06:50:22 PM
well I pull out the pickup in the tank, the giant filter in the tank was spotless.

But, I am a little embarassed now, I moved back the shield on the return line from the pump and saw it was kinked bad. Since I replaced my few line I had put new lines that were longer and well, that led to my down fall.

I snipped the return a tad shorter and buttoned her all back up. Just put 100 miles on her already.  :D

Feels so good to ride.


But now I have another question.

When I start to get on it around 7k+rpms the bike just falls on its face. It allmost feels like I am hitting the limiter. I am not sure whats causing this, I had the same problem last year. So I changed alot of things to try and fix it,

I torn apart the fuel system and removed/replaced/clean any fuel filters. New oil,coolant, and plugs.

I am thinking the pump is part of the problem, but I'd like some ideas.


Major thanks to Quasar for the pm support and everyone else. I wouldnt have gotten this far with out anyon here.
Now if only I could give soul. Only 35+ posts to go.

Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes **Updated**
Post by: gsxturbo on April 16, 2006, 01:00:10 AM
mine did the same thing at 7k did you take you pump assembly completely apart(pull the pump out of the housing) the filter housing that goes around the pump could be pluged its the screen right at the pickup for the fuel pump all the sediment collects their and will kill the flow of the pump
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes **Updated**
Post by: nykon on April 16, 2006, 01:44:33 PM
mine did the same thing at 7k did you take you pump assembly completely apart(pull the pump out of the housing) the filter housing that goes around the pump could be pluged its the screen right at the pickup for the fuel pump all the sediment collects their and will kill the flow of the pump

your talking about the screen thats behind the #2 part on this pic right,
http://tinyurl.com/ze7to

they dont even show it on the scematic for some reason. I have tried a few time to completely pull that part out but I feel I will end up breaking it if I pull it to hard. It starts to warp and flex so I dont try any harder. I usually just flush it until the screen is clear. I have only put 100 miles on since the complete cleaning or replacement of the fuel filters and screens.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes **Updated**
Post by: Rodomontade on April 16, 2006, 08:11:19 PM
mine did the same thing at 7k did you take you pump assembly completely apart(pull the pump out of the housing) the filter housing that goes around the pump could be pluged its the screen right at the pickup for the fuel pump all the sediment collects their and will kill the flow of the pump

your talking about the screen thats behind the #2 part on this pic right,
http://tinyurl.com/ze7to

they dont even show it on the scematic for some reason. I have tried a few time to completely pull that part out but I feel I will end up breaking it if I pull it to hard. It starts to warp and flex so I dont try any harder. I usually just flush it until the screen is clear. I have only put 100 miles on since the complete cleaning or replacement of the fuel filters and screens.

Assembly #2 will come out but it is tight.
I have had mine apart and the worst is getting O-ring #3 and especially #6 back in.
Someone posted a trick for doing this but I don't remember who. I also have not tried the trick myself.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes **Updated**
Post by: gsxturbo on April 16, 2006, 08:25:15 PM
yes you need to get the plastic surround out because there is no way you can get all of the crap out of the housing with taking it out i think i used a pair of neddle nose pliers to pull it out and spray out with some carb cleaner
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: Mileageking on April 16, 2006, 08:41:31 PM
Well, thanks quasar for you help. There was one vent line under the tank the was pniched. made sure they flowed without them pinching. Started the bike, it ran for 10 minutes then cut out.

Then decided to change the oil since the bike was warm, low and behold theres not a wrench of any kind to be found in over $10,000 of tools that will fit the filter. SO now I cant even change the damn oil. I am about to just kick the damn thing over and sell it. I cant deal with this shit anymore... I have no money to have it looked at let alone get it fixed. I am about to sell the whole damn bike to pay off the remaining $1000 on the loan. I just cant keep thinking its done and ready and have this keep happening.


I give up..

So why change the filter? have you looked at your manual ever ? Open it up scroll down in the maintenance column and see how often they say change the filter -just about never.

Its NOT your oil anyways so slow down.

You'll need to clean the filter and test the fuel pump. a fuel pressure gauge should do it just hack it in there and put a double barbed hose splice in afterwards.

Motorhead told you what it was  now what the fuck you waiting for?

clean the filter

test the pump
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes
Post by: nykon on April 17, 2006, 08:31:50 AM
So why change the filter? have you looked at your manual ever ? Open it up scroll down in the maintenance column and see how often they say change the filter -just about never.

Its NOT your oil anyways so slow down.

You'll need to clean the filter and test the fuel pump. a fuel pressure gauge should do it just hack it in there and put a double barbed hose splice in afterwards.

Motorhead told you what it was  now what the fuck you waiting for?

clean the filter

test the pump

Worded like that I'll just disregard your post.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes **Updated**
Post by: turbojonn on April 18, 2006, 11:41:02 AM
 YOUR LINES ARE KINKING!!! I have a 99 too, and mine did the same thing. The lines will look just fine until the tank is so far down you can't see the lines anymore, THEN they'll kink.  If you get a flashlight and peek under the tank WHEN IT'S CLOSED you might catch the line(s) kinking. They may also kink AFTER they get hot and soften up. I must have spent two hours with my lines to get them not to kink. The return line still kinked on me once after all that work. Your description and recent improvemnt with the tank up points right to the supply line. Stick a 2 or 3 inch spacer block under the front of the tank and secure it so it won't fall out when you ride the bike. Then take the bike out for a ride. The supply line should be much less likely to kink if it's not compressed in the under tank space. If your bike does fine with the tank propped up then replace the supply line and/or put a plastic sleev over the top of the line so it can't bend and kink at the tank oulet. Good luck and don't give up. Also check the entire line by bending every part of it to see if it has a tendancy to kink in certain spots. Mine had a kinky spot right where it attatched to the petcock. It had another kink spot in a curve right by the seat. I could not see either one of them when the tank was even slightly raise.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes **Updated**
Post by: nykon on April 18, 2006, 02:35:50 PM
I just want to say that I'm a little pissed.
That's right.
You said *updated*.
To me, that means you found the problem and got it fixed, alas, that is not the case.
At the very least, it means you've found something out.  You've gotten somewhere.  You've made some progress.  I don't feel that any of this has happened.  In fact, I feel a bit cheated here.
I'll be keeping an eye on the thread title.  No more updates.  I will be looking for **fixed**!!
That will be a great day my friend.
A great day.



Gar

ok all better, read the first post again.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes **fixed!!** now another problem
Post by: turbojonn on April 19, 2006, 10:53:40 AM
 Buy and install a fuel pressure guage. When the bike goes flat look at the pressure. Normally it should be at 40-42 psi. If it spikes or drops you either have a defective petcock, kinks (still), defective pump, or bad fuel cap that doesn't breath and creates a vacuum which the pump cannot overcome. Then next time you ride it try leaving the gas cap open (don't put too much fuel in it obviously) and see if it still falls flat. I'd still try the gas tank prop up too. The more fuel you flow the more likely the line is to kink. It may still be a kink that, while better, still bends and kinks at high flow rates (i.e. full throttle).
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes **fixed!!** now another problem
Post by: nykon on April 21, 2006, 01:10:17 AM
Looking for an update.
You will fix that fucking bike or I will make sure this thread haunts you for a good long time.
Don't play with me.




Gar

I will fix it your right, but until I can get a fuel pressure gauge I can not definativley tell you its the pump. I unlike most on the board dont have a ton, or any , money to throw at my bike.  I make enough to pay for school and pay my loan payment on the bike. I live paycheck to paycheck. It runs and I can drive it, right now thats enough.
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes **fixed!!** now another problem
Post by: ZEUS on April 21, 2006, 07:34:24 PM
Looking for an update.
You will fix that fucking bike or I will make sure this thread haunts you for a good long time.
Don't play with me.




Gar

I will fix it your right, but until I can get a fuel pressure gauge I can not definativley tell you its the pump. I unlike most on the board dont have a ton, or any , money to throw at my bike.  I make enough to pay for school and pay my loan payment on the bike. I live paycheck to paycheck. It runs and I can drive it, right now thats enough.

Take your time, do what you can, when you can :wink:
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes **fixed!!** now another problem
Post by: turbojonn on April 26, 2006, 11:04:50 AM
 There's a 2000 fuel pump on the parts board for 150 w/injecters. But the pjump and sell the injecters?
Title: Re: 99' busa cuts out after 10 minutes **fixed!!** now another problem
Post by: gsxturbo on April 26, 2006, 03:21:22 PM
i will sell you a pump for alot cheaper if you need it