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Title: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: smithabusa on November 06, 2006, 10:54:23 PM
This one is for Kurt,

The LED's I have in here can be red, blue, or green depending on how I wire it up.  Kurt chose green for gear indicator and blue for the shift light.

Adjustable from 500-12,000 RPM in 100 RPM increments.

In the garage video so you can see it better
www.boostbysmith.com/Videos/shiftlight.wmv

Longer version (about 10 meg)
www.boostbysmith.com/Videos/kurts1.wmv

Short Version of the video, just a couple of gears (about 2 meg)
www.boostbysmith.com/Videos/Kurtshort.wmv

This setup could also be used to trigger your air shifter for autoshift if you like.  There is a switched ground when the shift RPM is reached, this could easily be ran through a relay and used to shift the bike instead of hitting the horn button.

Greg

1st
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/gsmith1979/shiftlight002_0001.jpg)

2nd
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/gsmith1979/shiftlight002_0002.jpg)

3rd
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/gsmith1979/shiftlight003_0001.jpg)

4th
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/gsmith1979/shiftlight004_0001.jpg)

5th
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/gsmith1979/shiftlight005_0001.jpg)

6th
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/gsmith1979/shiftlight005_0002.jpg)

SHIFT!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/gsmith1979/shiftlight005_0003.jpg)
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator working with Video
Post by: smithabusa on November 07, 2006, 09:13:30 AM
WTF
you're doing shift lites now too :!:
you're sick :twisted:
looks bad ass :thumb:
good job :wink:

LOL, thanks Nem!

Just figured I could integrate it into the box, sounded like a fun project, this one is Kurt's, sounds like i may have interest for a few more so we'll see LOL.

Greg
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator working with Video
Post by: smithabusa on November 07, 2006, 09:22:59 AM
Yeah something I learned is that all LEd's have to be clocked in the same rotation if that makes sense, didn't realize this, have to turn them so they all are rotated at the same angle.  With 3 colors in them they look different if you turn the LOL.

Yep I can wire a GPS sensor to activate whatever you want, boost control, NOS, timing retard box etc.

You could also use this shif tlight setup for an autoshift.  Just run the outlet of the RPM activated switch box to your air shifter and let it shift itself.

I can wire a sensor tp provide 6 ground outputs (1 for each gear) for $40.  I have to wire in a full time TRE mod, or any gear you wish, but only 1 going back to the ECM.  6.8K for 5th gear is what I have done most as, done some 3rd gear ones also for MH, ghetto King etc.

Greg
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator working with Video
Post by: busa2001 on November 07, 2006, 09:47:22 AM
good job greg.... :thumb:
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator working with Video
Post by: Headshot on November 07, 2006, 10:15:13 AM
 :thumb:


I like
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator working with Video
Post by: smithabusa on November 07, 2006, 10:17:32 AM
Thanks guys, I think it's kinda neat.  Might have to make one for the wife's and my bike and sell my raptor light and old indicator etc.
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator working with Video
Post by: Kurt on November 07, 2006, 10:43:44 AM
That is lookin sweet Greg  :thumb:
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator working with Video
Post by: Kurt on November 07, 2006, 10:44:47 AM
Once I get this from you do you want my old shiftlight(for the internals of it)
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator working with Video
Post by: smithabusa on November 07, 2006, 10:46:45 AM
Once I get this from you do you want my old shiftlight(for the internals of it)

Hmm, will have to look at it, assuming it works the same we could do that.
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator working with Video
Post by: Anton on November 07, 2006, 03:48:57 PM
Glad to see the idea is working out well :)!

how do you set shift points? seems like yours set at 7.5K ?
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator working with Video
Post by: Kurt on November 07, 2006, 03:52:57 PM
Glad to see the idea is working out well :)!

how do you set shift points? seems like yours set at 7.5K ?

You set the shift points by using dip switchs,then pushing a button. He had his set that low just for the video :D
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator working with Video
Post by: smithabusa on November 07, 2006, 04:07:31 PM
It was like midnight out and dark as hell, didn't want to draw too much attention to myself.

Setting the shift light activation is very easy. :D
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator working with Video
Post by: Anton on November 07, 2006, 04:16:07 PM
take a vid during day light, i want to see how it looks at day time :D
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator working with Video
Post by: smithabusa on November 07, 2006, 06:02:47 PM
take a vid during day light, i want to see how it looks at day time :D

Order one up and see :D

Daytime doesn't exist except on the weekend LOL.  Was almost dark at 5:00 PM today.

Looks like this during the day (the blue one I made first).

www.boostbysmith.com/Videos/Blue.wmv

Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator working with Video
Post by: smithabusa on November 07, 2006, 07:23:00 PM
Atoyf, per your request, 50 mph on the rear stand LOL.

Haven't had a chance to clock all the LEDs in the same rotational direction so they look completely uniform, but here it is.

www.boostbysmith.com/Videos/shiftlight.wmv

Greg
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator working with Video
Post by: AKMac on November 08, 2006, 01:18:26 AM
That's really cool. Do you think you will try adding a face plate with numbers for each gear like suggested in the other thread? That would be nice for night riding.
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator working with Video
Post by: smithabusa on November 08, 2006, 06:46:19 AM
That's really cool. Do you think you will try adding a face plate with numbers for each gear like suggested in the other thread? That would be nice for night riding.

Not in the immediate future, but willing to look at it.  You can always stagger the colors to help that out.

Run 6th gear a different color, or run something like

1 Green
2 Blue
3 Green
4 Blue
5 Green
6 Blue

Shift Light - Red

Something like that would make it easier if you ride at night a lot.
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: smithabusa on November 08, 2006, 07:08:24 AM
Oh yeah, forgot to mention that this could also be used to work as an autoshift if you have an air shifter.  The switched ground that comes on when shift RPM is reached could easily be ran through a relay and then used to shift the air / co2 shifter at the preset shift light RPM.

Greg
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: robsbusa on November 08, 2006, 08:51:08 AM
Thats awesome.  :thumb: I'm very interested in gear indicater with shift light and hooking it
up for autoshift. I'll contact you soon.
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: smithabusa on November 08, 2006, 08:53:32 AM
Thats awesome.  :thumb: I'm very interested in gear indicater with shift light and hooking it
up for autoshift. I'll contact you soon.


Sounds good, look forward to it :D
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: FJman on November 08, 2006, 09:23:20 AM
Smith, this is a neat concept, and honestly I had this idea ages ago (but no bike that I wanted to chop up, and no money to attempt it!)

However, I kept going, and here's the idea I came up with.



Now that you're using multicolor lights for shift and gear position, wouldn't it be interesting to use them for other things, in other places?

My thinking was to replace the guage lights on some black/white guages, with 3color LED's, and then have them change color under whatever circumstances.  For example, the whole dash would flash blue at shiftpoint, red if oil pressure under <x>, and would be normally green.  Or whatever.  Couldn't figure out how to get a LOT of colors, but with some work I'm sure it's possible... i.e., green dash lights turn amber when the nitrous is armed, etc...

I was thinking of applications other than bikes, too, but it'd depend a lot on how the instruments are lit on whatever you're working on at the time.  It should be possible to feed fiber optic lines to replace surfacemounted LED's, and have a common area to pick up for source, but that'd be probably terribly involved and customized.
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: smithabusa on November 08, 2006, 09:54:47 AM
Yikes that sounds like a lot of work LOL.

Just thought of something else though, if you used 2 RPM switches (they are small, 2 would probably fit in the same enclosure I have now) you coudl use 1 for shift light, and use the other for launch light.

You could set say Kurts up with green as gear position, blue as shift light, and red as launch light.  Launch light would have to be powered through the clutch switch so that it will only work with the clutch pulled in.

Greg
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: Kurt on November 08, 2006, 10:44:33 AM
Sounds like I have some wiring to do in the near future :lol:
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: FXDRYDR on November 08, 2006, 10:44:48 AM
Bee-yoo-tee-ful!!
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: smithabusa on November 11, 2006, 11:39:45 AM
Here is the RPM switch.

it has 2 push buttons, push button 1 sets numberof cylinders,push button 2 sets the shift RPM 500-12000 RPM in 100 RPM increments using the supplied table for dip switch setting, very very easy to do. The LED flashes back your settings so you can check settings without revving the bike to the moon.

Greg

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/gsmith1979/100_2839-1.jpg)

Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: dkariores on November 11, 2006, 01:46:11 PM
damn i cant wait to get one of these!! 

I just gotta get mine out to send it in!!   
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: smithabusa on November 11, 2006, 02:20:32 PM
damn i cant wait to get one of these!! 

I just gotta get mine out to send it in!!   

I can do a core cahrge if you like, I think i have 1 or 2 more spare sensors at the moment.  As long as you could return your stock one to me in a timely manner I will refund 100% of the $35 core charge :D
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: grecco on November 11, 2006, 08:32:33 PM
I like the harlan rpm switch.
that is sweet.
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: smithabusa on November 11, 2006, 08:37:33 PM
I like the harlan rpm switch.
that is sweet.

Hope to be shipping your setup to you end of the week, got started on it today with the parts that I have :D

Greg
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: grecco on November 11, 2006, 08:38:38 PM
Oh yeah, smithabusa,



where is the gear position sensor on the busa?
don't laugh
i've never looked for it...
 :lol:
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: smithabusa on November 11, 2006, 08:48:56 PM
Oh yeah, smithabusa,



where is the gear position sensor on the busa?
don't laugh
i've never looked for it...
 :lol:

Behind the clutch basket,

pull the:

right fairing
clutch cover
pressure plate
Clutch basket
then the sensor

about a 20-30 minute job, not bad at all
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: grecco on November 11, 2006, 08:54:33 PM
cool.
thanks smithabua.
 :)
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: smithabusa on November 11, 2006, 08:57:25 PM
cool.
thanks smithabua.
 :)

It comes with directions on CD with pics as well as a PDF copy of the Busa Service Manual :D
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: grecco on November 11, 2006, 09:03:17 PM
REALLY!  :shock:

Damn Smithabusa! :shock:

That's awesome! :wink:

Good Deal! :thumb:

yes, i'm excited.
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: Kurt on November 15, 2006, 03:00:51 PM
Autoshift works. just tried it, will post some pics. in a minute of the install
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: Kurt on November 15, 2006, 03:21:33 PM
here is the rpm switch mounted on the right ram air tube

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/kurtsbusa/100_4054Small.jpg)

here is the led indicator/shiftlight mounted
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/kurtsbusa/100_4055Small.jpg)

just the toggle switch I added
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/kurtsbusa/100_4057Small.jpg)

the one wire I had to add to Matt's kill box
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/kurtsbusa/100_4058Small.jpg)

just one of the trunk with the relay and kill box
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/kurtsbusa/100_4059Small.jpg)


Going to clean up some of my wiring, but have all winter to do that
maybe get another gauge panel from Tiger Racing so I can put the toggle switch's how I want them. Sent back my AutoMeter gauges that's why they aren't in the panel :evil:
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: grecco on November 15, 2006, 03:39:39 PM
looking good. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: smithabusa on November 15, 2006, 03:47:32 PM
Kurt, thanks for taking the time to take pics and a quick writeup on how it worked for you.

Greg
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: Kurt on November 15, 2006, 03:49:05 PM
Kurt, thanks for taking the time to take pics and a quick writeup on how it worked for you.

Greg

No problem Greg :D
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: xquizitzx10 on February 26, 2008, 11:36:05 AM
Hey greg wuz up bro well i still need a shift light. Didnt no if u still had that one we were talkin bout think it wuz the harlen light? Or will the small ones that u make work with my zx10 application? LMK Thanx again,,,  MIKE  :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: New Shift Light / Gear Indicator / Autoshift/ working with Video
Post by: smithabusa on February 26, 2008, 11:57:34 AM
Hey greg wuz up bro well i still need a shift light. Didnt no if u still had that one we were talkin bout think it wuz the harlen light? Or will the small ones that u make work with my zx10 application? LMK Thanx again,,,  MIKE  :thumb: :thumb:

that one has been sold sorry.  The launch / shfit light will work on your bike if it has a clutch switch, if it doesn't we can just wire that signal to ground and the launch light with window will always be active, or run it to a toggle and just shut it off when riding on the street.