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SALES - Read the rules before you post! => Results with Products/Sponsors/Members => Topic started by: night ryder on February 08, 2007, 02:35:26 PM
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im cerious to see if anybody on here has been ripped off by him? im not talking about waiting, im talking about people that never received anything.
i bought a turbo from him (just a turbo) 2 months ago. he said it would go out as soon as he recieved payment. for the first month i couldnt get ahold of him. after i do get ahold of him, he is always making accuses. first 2 times i talk to him he was just getting back from vacation (2 different weeks). now the last couple weeks he said that the turbo would be in bla bla bla. so i call him today to get my money back, and he says that there would be a 20% restock fee :bah:. how in the fuck can there be a restock fee, if i didnt receive anything.
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call a lawyer.
he is NOTORIOUS for not shipping stuff. do a search and you will find a ton of major drama that dude is in the middle of.
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been thinking of doing that. he is claiming that is will be in on tuesday (not the first or second time i heard that). if i do not have a tracking number by thursday, a lawyer will be calling him :lol:
i seen before i bought the turbo that he was slow on sending stuff out. i figured hey it just a turbo, how hard would that be to ship. boy was i wrong :x
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Never had anything to do with the dude and don,t want to. however i have a friend in New York who sent him money for a complete system around end of october, just this week got the last of his parts only after much ass busting, excuse,s one after another, had a lawyer send letter [reminding him of fraud] to bad this guy could have a nice little business if he didn,t do people that way
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Never had anything to do with the dude and don,t want to. however i have a friend in New York who sent him money for a complete system around end of october, just this week got the last of his parts only after much ass busting, excuse,s one after another, had a lawyer send letter [reminding him of fraud] to bad this guy could have a nice little business if he didn,t do people that way
Yeah...there r lots of bad people. Bad for business. I will be honest, lawyer will not do you any good specially in other states.
They will just laugh at you. Once a lawyer get involve in small stuff, it'll be hard to get your money back. You have to approach the case like you are begging until you get your money back. Avoid a bull ring approach. Keep putting friendly pressure. Trick 'em this way.
Worse to worse you can file a report from your local police department. Charge him with "fraud". The report will be
sent to the guy's town's police department. From there, you can follow up.
You cannot directly file a police report in the other side. I hope this help.
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i have tryed the nice guy thing. it does not work. the guy is a scam artist. he take long periods of time so people get sick of waiting and just get there money back. he then take his 20% restock fee, and that is profit to him.
i am calling the BBB (better business bureau) today and asking them about that 20% that i should not be charged. i will also ask what further action i can take, and file a complaint. they can actually shut his business down for good :thumb:.
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What state you are in?
and where is his business?
The most effective one is filing a small claim.
i have tryed the nice guy thing. it does not work. the guy is a scam artist. he take long periods of time so people get sick of waiting and just get there money back. he then take his 20% restock fee, and that is profit to him.
i am calling the BBB (better business bureau) today and asking them about that 20% that i should not be charged. i will also ask what further action i can take, and file a complaint. they can actually shut his business down for good :thumb:.
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How did you pay?
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i live in south dakota and he is in ohio.
i paid witha cashiers check. he charge's 3% if you use a credit card. wish i would of just used the credit card :x
i wasnt even that upset until yesturday when he pulled that 20% bullshit. he also wont give out the part number to check if it really is on back order (not like i cant get it when it arrives). he know what he is doing when it comes to fraud :grn:
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Check it in your small claim court. I think you can file a small claim in your district even the guy is in OHIO because the transaction
happened in South daKota. At least this is the law here in Connecticut. All you have to pay is $7. for the small claim filing. They will notify both parties. Of course, the guy in Ohio cannot come. The judge will give you the verdict. Then, you will pay another $20. for the Sheriff to collect the money. The Sheriff personally will collect the money. It's a law...no BS!
He has no choice except to pay the money. So, put everything, all the amount you could think of. Double the shit including
the interest. Once you recieve the approve application, Xerox that sucker, send it to him. This time he will listen. You will get your money before the court date because you are charging him more. Put all the aggrevations and also if you are working'
put the money you will lose in the court date.
Go check it out! hope this help!
By the way, no need for lawyer in small claim court. I think you are allowed to claim as much as $2,500 (limit)
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:thumb: i have all the proof of the cashiers check, and a email stating that he recieved it. it is a open and shut case :lol:.
i'll have to check out SD laws
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im cerious to see if anybody on here has been ripped off by him? im not talking about waiting, im talking about people that never received anything.
i bought a turbo from him (just a turbo) 2 months ago. he said it would go out as soon as he recieved payment. for the first month i couldnt get ahold of him. after i do get ahold of him, he is always making accuses. first 2 times i talk to him he was just getting back from vacation (2 different weeks). now the last couple weeks he said that the turbo would be in bla bla bla. so i call him today to get my money back, and he says that there would be a 20% restock fee :bah:. how in the fuck can there be a restock fee, if i didnt receive anything.
How the hell can he charge you a re-stocking fee for an item he has yet to ship, and has delayed the shipping of?
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email i just sent him :lol:
I am now taking further steps. Either you can send me a full refund of 730.00 USD or we can settle it in court here in South Dakota. It will end up costing you alot more if you wanna do it that way ex:expensive comming here, time off my work, time off my wifes work (she got the cashier check), court cost, lawyer fee's. What you do is up to you. I know that i am not the first (have done research) or last person that is going to deal with you. It has been 2 months, and all i am getting is excuse after excuse. If you did not have the turbo instock, you should have let me know the waiting period, and not have made it sound like you did have one. That 20% restock fee is bogus and you know it. you can use that turbo for another system. If you want me to contact a lawyer about that, i sure can, but i know that since i have not recieved anything, you cannot charge me for that. I will expect to hear from you by tuesday 1/13/07. If i do not hear from you by tuesday 1/13/07 i will file a law suit. The choice is yours.
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im cerious to see if anybody on here has been ripped off by him? im not talking about waiting, im talking about people that never received anything.
i bought a turbo from him (just a turbo) 2 months ago. he said it would go out as soon as he recieved payment. for the first month i couldnt get ahold of him. after i do get ahold of him, he is always making accuses. first 2 times i talk to him he was just getting back from vacation (2 different weeks). now the last couple weeks he said that the turbo would be in bla bla bla. so i call him today to get my money back, and he says that there would be a 20% restock fee :bah:. how in the fuck can there be a restock fee, if i didnt receive anything.
How the hell can he charge you a re-stocking fee for an item he has yet to ship, and has delayed the shipping of?
he says its a custom made turbo, that is on back order. it is bogus, he is just trying to get easy money.
btw thanks for the pm :thumb:
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this guy also go caught trying to sell Supergrizz's supercharger kit and claim it was his own....why? SCAM.
was it a busa kit he ordered? cause i know a few honda guys who are getting taken for a ride by him.
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This is good but what you should have done is this: listen carefully
Write a small but brief letter. Give him a week and half to respond.
Then mail the letter using a registered mail with return signature.
He will difinetely gets the letter instead of your email.
This registered letter will scare him a bit specially if registered mail.
Your letter must be brief. You will not mention anything BS.
Tell him, you need your money back because of his fraud business representation.
Give him a date to respond. Tell him when will you file the small claim court.
Summarize the cost: ex:
Cost of the turbo -----> $750.00
Cost of the lost day at work ----->$100.
Cost of the application -----> $30.00
Cost of ????? -----------> interest
Total ----------------------------------------------------> $$$$$$$$
Keep his signature when you recieve your registered mail.
You can show this to the court.
Then if he does not respond within specified time you given him, file the application to the court.
Withing 2 1/2 weeks you will be notified a court date.
Good luck to you. I hope you get your money before the court date.
Oh by the way...
The Sheriff will take the money direct from his business bank account.
The guy has a business license in the state of OHIO. The sheriff has the jusrisdiction to automatically deduct to his bank account because
of the order of the court.
You will then get your money from the Sheriff.
Good luck!
email i just sent him :lol:
I am now taking further steps. Either you can send me a full refund of 730.00 USD or we can settle it in court here in South Dakota. It will end up costing you alot more if you wanna do it that way ex:expensive comming here, time off my work, time off my wifes work (she got the cashier check), court cost, lawyer fee's. What you do is up to you. I know that i am not the first (have done research) or last person that is going to deal with you. It has been 2 months, and all i am getting is excuse after excuse. If you did not have the turbo instock, you should have let me know the waiting period, and not have made it sound like you did have one. That 20% restock fee is bogus and you know it. you can use that turbo for another system. If you want me to contact a lawyer about that, i sure can, but i know that since i have not recieved anything, you cannot charge me for that. I will expect to hear from you by tuesday 1/13/07. If i do not hear from you by tuesday 1/13/07 i will file a law suit. The choice is yours.
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Last time someone here had an issue with this guy it became obvious FAST was reading here and forewarned.
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Hey Guys,
I am the owner of Forced Air System Technology. I am taking this time to address several of the issues floating around the forums. Alot has been said and there was only a bit of validity to a very small number of the statements. For the sake of introductions, I am an honest person that has been responsible for only one thing last year, being over scheduled and under staffed. Based on a series of personal events (back to back, of course), I had to dig out of a deep hole of back orders and frustrated customers. Things are progressing and future plans are in effect to provide better products and superior service. I'd like to make a general appology for being the topic of dramatic postings simply for the fact that there is enough of that in the world already. Talk is cheap though and I accept responsibility for any of the previous problems or frustration that I may have caused. I'd like to also thank the guys that volunteered advice to some of my customers while I was away and unavailable.
To any previous customer: If there is anyone remaining that I have not corresponded with that needs any assistance, do not hesitate to phone or email me. 937-520-8580/Sales@forcedairsystemtechnology.com
I do this for the love of it as do you, the rest of the community and again appologize for anything that I contributed to in a negative way.
Drew Cannidy: I typically do not sell the components of my kits and through quite a bit of correspondance I agreed to do so for your build. From the specifics that you requested, I suggested a unit combination that does not exist as an off the shelf part number! It is a unit that I have used for individual builds in the past. The demensional criteria is closest to a GT28. I had no intention through our correspondance to mislead you. I did not pursue you on the issue whatsoever, I simply received an email stating that "the check is in the mail". What I should have done was immediately gotten the build time and reported back to you prior to leaving on vacation. Honestly, I did not recall talking to you prior to leaving. I still accept responsibility for that. I can do one of two things for you at this point. I am still happy to refund the money minus the re-stocking fee or simply send you the turbo. Im not quite sure why you believe no such fee exists for a non-Garrett part number from a builder. Certainly when it is a stock number such as the turbo in our Busa kit, I pay upon delivery through my supplier. I am addressing this in a public manner because it was brought to my attention that you had done so. I will of course also correspond with you over the phone and through email.
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how are you restocking something you haven't sent him/don't even have yourself?
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Im not defending anyone here so dont jump on my case,but i think he is saying is garret will charge him a restocking fee for it since its a special order turbo and not a stocking one thats on the shelf.
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Drew...I am glad you responded to this needs.
My advice to you is to refund the guy and done and over with.
I have a business too, I don't accept money if I don't have the goods to deliver.
I am always ready to refund the guy when the good that I promised is not delivered in the time manner.
You will make more money by being honest than making false promises.
If you are a good person, just refund it and continue your business.
Let me respect you....but you need to respect me!
Jaime
Hey Guys,
I am the owner of Forced Air System Technology. I am taking this time to address several of the issues floating around the forums. Alot has been said and there was only a bit of validity to a very small number of the statements. For the sake of introductions, I am an honest person that has been responsible for only one thing last year, being over scheduled and under staffed. Based on a series of personal events (back to back, of course), I had to dig out of a deep hole of back orders and frustrated customers. Things are progressing and future plans are in effect to provide better products and superior service. I'd like to make a general appology for being the topic of dramatic postings simply for the fact that there is enough of that in the world already. Talk is cheap though and I accept responsibility for any of the previous problems or frustration that I may have caused. I'd like to also thank the guys that volunteered advice to some of my customers while I was away and unavailable.
To any previous customer: If there is anyone remaining that I have not corresponded with that needs any assistance, do not hesitate to phone or email me. 937-520-8580/Sales@forcedairsystemtechnology.com
I do this for the love of it as do you, the rest of the community and again appologize for anything that I contributed to in a negative way.
Drew Cannidy: I typically do not sell the components of my kits and through quite a bit of correspondance I agreed to do so for your build. From the specifics that you requested, I suggested a unit combination that does not exist as an off the shelf part number! It is a unit that I have used for individual builds in the past. The demensional criteria is closest to a GT28. I had no intention through our correspondance to mislead you. I did not pursue you on the issue whatsoever, I simply received an email stating that "the check is in the mail". What I should have done was immediately gotten the build time and reported back to you prior to leaving on vacation. Honestly, I did not recall talking to you prior to leaving. I still accept responsibility for that. I can do one of two things for you at this point. I am still happy to refund the money minus the re-stocking fee or simply send you the turbo. Im not quite sure why you believe no such fee exists for a non-Garrett part number from a builder. Certainly when it is a stock number such as the turbo in our Busa kit, I pay upon delivery through my supplier. I am addressing this in a public manner because it was brought to my attention that you had done so. I will of course also correspond with you over the phone and through email.
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Im not defending anyone here so dont jump on my case,but i think he is saying is garret will charge him a restocking fee for it since its a special order turbo and not a stocking one thats on the shelf.
GSX---Night ryder is simply buying the goods. If you are the merchant and you cannot deliver a goods,
it is your responsibility to swallow any charges. The customer is willing
to buy the goods, that's about it. He decided to pull his purchase because the merchant
cannot deliver the goods. So, don't make it difficult.
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First off sorry guys for bring the drama here.
Andrew you have had 2 month to get me that turbo. According to your emails (I haved saved) you must stock them. In the last email you sent me you said " I got it! The Turbo will go out this week.". That is the same day you recieved the check. Your telling me that you cant resell that turbo with a different kit? Your are actually going to send that turbo back to garrett? Please stop your BS'ing.
Funny that you respond to this forum, but not to me emails or phone calls.
I no longer want the turbo. Plain and simple. I want a FULL refund. If it means taking you to court I will. In the end it will be more money out of your pocket, then just sending me my refund.
Oh and i should add that you sold me a gt28r, not a "The demensional criteria is closest to a GT28". I have email stating that you sold me a gt28r. Good luck in court with that one :lol:. Like I said you have until 1/13/07 to decide what you want to do, because on the 14th I will go to the court house
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Jaime,
I respect your cander/advice and agree that in the case of not being able to produce, a refund should always be in order. At all points, this particular turbo would have been a custom order. We spoke about sizing issues and options up to the point that I received a "checks in the mail" email. I simply placed the order and the builder was delayed waiting on a housing from Garrett. My desire is not to even stand on a soap box to make a point on principal. The bottom line in my mind is that untill now, I believe that Drew simply felt like he was being jerked around. That I think would make anyone just want to call the deal off. In another business that I have, I could never accept money up front for an item. In this business, I speak with no less than 20-30 people per day that without deposit or even full payment would order one of everything with the promise of paying. There are so many options and so much labor envolved that I feel forced to operate in some fashion such as this. I don't like this mentality though and wish to stock simply all options in a manner that the higher costs of operating do not get passed along to the customers in any way. Richard versus Velocity is a good example I believe. Richard keeps great stock and has 3 times the amount of technology/options for the customer as Barry but in many peoples minds, there is still a debate as to whether to buy from Velocity. I admire Richard for this but I believe there is a cost associated with his business plan that is difficult to keep down. Anyone selling more than 5 or 6 systems a month are trying to find faster, less expensive ways to provide a better product, but this is a niche market still and I believe will be for a long time. Anyone that thinks Richard or anyone else are getting rich when they sell a basic system for $3500-4000 is just not informed well. I have been able to fall beneath that mark slightly only because of less overhead. This year will certainly be an interesting attempt at making substantial increases in overhead while still offering cost effective, high-quality products.
That I guess was a bit of a ramble but these things consume my mind. Thanks for the feedback-
Andrew
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Im not defending anyone here so dont jump on my case,but i think he is saying is garret will charge him a restocking fee for it since its a special order turbo and not a stocking one thats on the shelf.
GSX---Night ryder is simply buying the goods. If you are the merchant and you cannot deliver a goods,
it is your responsibility to swallow any charges. The customer is willing
to buy the goods, that's about it. He decided to pull his purchase because the merchant
cannot deliver the goods. So, don't make it difficult.
I am a independent contractor. If I dont deliver as promised, I have to take the lose. My priorities are all about my customers. im not happy unless my customers are happy. Some people just dont know how to run a business I guess.
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Drew,
Again, I am answering further on this forum because of your responses. Drew, I spoke with you on the phone last night. I am simply weeding through emails this evening. I have repeatedly checked my voicemail today and am positive that I missed no such calls. I have only posted for the first time tonight and said specifically that I would be following up with the same information to you through email/phone. There are many combinations of a GT28R! I was not trying to give fancy wording to avoid offering you what was agreed. The unit that is assembled is made up of nothing but GT28 components but does not exist as a shelved unit. As I said before, the part would not go back to Garrett, it would go back to the company that assembles and balances the unit. That is who takes payment from me for the order and THAT is who requires a restocking fee on any custom order. You are also correct that I have used this unit in the past and as I stated on the phone, there was some confusion on my part as to what your particular situation was when we spoke the first time. After that conversation, I placed your voice/name with the turbo that needed to be ordered and it was immediately!
Drew, you paid for the turbo, I ordered it, it is on the way as we speak. It is a great setup that will give you the results that you asked for very specifically. Everything has been exactly as I have said and I ask for the chance to complete the sale through reasonable terms. If you do not have tracking info this coming week and I am wrong about the delivery, I will simply send a refund. That is the only promise I have made and I would like the opportunity to keep it.
Andrew
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Sorry a little to late. You have said the same thing over and over, for the past month. "it will be here next week". If you want me to take a picture of my phone, I will. i called around 3ish today. I am tired of the excuse's, and just want my money.
I am not understanding these specification you talk about. You would not give me any specification, and I have a email to prove that. I was under the influence that is was the same turbo you sold with the kit you sell on ebay.
You have already cost me money. I was planning on building my own header, but spring is almost here, so I had to buy a pre made one.
I know that buying a turbo from sombody else will cost me more money, but im all for it, if it mean not having to deal with you anymore.
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Drew,
I am sorry you feel that way. When you phoned me today, did you leave a voicemail? I try to specify that in the voicemail. I understand your purchase of a new header and will get a refund ready. I thought we could have come to a mutual agreement.
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You cannot advertise on here unless you are a sponsor.
So you will send me a FULL refund correct? Sorry it has to end like this. I have been giving you the benifit of the doubt, and it has slapped me in the face one to many times.
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When an order is placed, a good response would be:
Sorry, I don't have that unit in stock.
or
Sorry, I am too busy working on my backlog of orders to deal with parts not specific to my kits.
or
Sorry, I only sell kits, not parts.
or
Sorry, I cannot supply the unit you need immediately nor can I say how long exactly the lead-time will be.
or
I can take your money and order now, but I cannot guarantee exactly when your unit will ship, since it's not a standard item.
or
I can't supply the unit you need off the shelf, but I can reccomend xxxxx company who might get you one quick.
etc...etc....
People understand this and respect it. They don't respect folks who take orders they have difficulty fulfilling without being informed of potential backlog/other problems, and they certainly don't expect to be given shipping dates that simply aren't true in a hope it will buy more time.
If a vendor can't fulfill an order in a resonably timescale, they either don't accept it or inform of the possible delay before taking money.
Just IMHO.
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Im not defending anyone here so dont jump on my case,but i think he is saying is garret will charge him a restocking fee for it since its a special order turbo and not a stocking one thats on the shelf.
GSX---Night ryder is simply buying the goods. If you are the merchant and you cannot deliver a goods,
it is your responsibility to swallow any charges. The customer is willing
to buy the goods, that's about it. He decided to pull his purchase because the merchant
cannot deliver the goods. So, don't make it difficult.
Like i said im not defending anyone here i have a business myself, im not saying he shoudnt give all of his money back sparky just asked why there was a restocking fee and i presume its because they dont stock this turbo.
Yes he should give him all of his money back seeing as he hasent even recieved it yet and its been 2 months now i would be furious too,i ordered a turbo from turbonetics one time waited two months for it and i kept getting the run around so i went elseware no skin off my back there are plenty of places to get turbos.
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In an earlier comment, I accepted responsibility for not communicating better. I am going to refund his money and eat the restock fee (or most likely shelve the turbo) for the poor initial comunication on my part. I am not refunding the payment based on any potential legal recourse, because there is none. I have not done anything against the law, just an oversight on my part that caused frustration on the part of Drew.
Andrew
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I appreciate that. Its not like you cant sell it to sombody else.
If I knew what was going on, this would not have been a issue. If you would of told me about the wait, you would of lost my business, but atleast you and I would not have to go threw all of this. You lost my trust, and that is why I took further action. I am a person that does not forgive, so you lost my business for good. just remember this when the next guy ask's you where his stuff is, and make sure you call him when you say you are going too. Word of mouth is your best marketing tool. If your work load is to much, why not stop taking order and get caught up?
My email is still mryken@usd.edu if you need to verify my address. Dont bother calling, because from here on out I want printable documents. I will give you until 2/16/07 to receive the cashiers check. If I do not receive it by then, I will take further action.
Once again i do appreciate you manning up to your mistakes :wink:
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:vl:
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I appreciate that. Its not like you cant sell it to sombody else.
If I knew what was going on, this would not have been a issue. If you would of told me about the wait, you would of lost my business, but atleast you and I would not have to go threw all of this. You lost my trust, and that is why I took further action. I am a person that does not forgive, so you lost my business for good. just remember this when the next guy ask's you where his stuff is, and make sure you call him when you say you are going too. Word of mouth is your best marketing tool. If your work load is to much, why not stop taking order and get caught up?
My email is still mryken@usd.edu if you need to verify my address. Dont bother calling, because from here on out I want printable documents. I will give you until 2/16/07 to receive the cashiers check. If I do not receive it by then, I will take further action.
Once again i do appreciate you manning up to your mistakes :wink:
i will have a system w yer name on it :wink:
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Guys, do your self a favor and stick with MH, Richard, Barry or some established outfit. IMHO
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"Like i said im not defending anyone here i have a business myself, im not saying he shoudnt give all of his money back sparky just asked why there was a restocking fee and i presume its because they dont stock this turbo.
Yes he should give him all of his money back seeing as he hasent even recieved it yet and its been 2 months now i would be furious too,i ordered a turbo from turbonetics one time waited two months for it and i kept getting the run around so i went elseware no skin off my back there are plenty of places to get turbos. "
GSXR---Sorry, I got in your case. I'm a person who understand the relationship between the seller and the buyer. Geri already
laid out how you deal selling a products. N0need for me to repeat because I laid that out too.
When you order a modified turbo, its true the configuration will be different than what Garrett are selling for production
usage. This is nothing to do between a seller and the buyer. If you cannot simply deliver, you simply refund the buyer.
If the buyer pulled out from the transaction wihout a valid reason, the turbo is ready to be shipped, by LAW
you still have to refund but impose the necessary penalty.
However, don't be mistaken there are only handful of company granted by Garrett to be a full dealership. I know this for a fact.
You have to be really, really big and rich to get into the circle. I am one of those company.
The company that ANDREW mentioned he is getting his Garrett, chances are not a Garrett authorized dealer therefore
non of these 20% BS.
I never reveal I sell turbo here because I don't want to burn bridges. I am a car enthusiast and I enjoy people who like
the same hobbies. I don't associate with bigger people.
Here take a look at all the dead GARRETTs all over the world laying in my graveyard, and that's includes turbonetics turbos.
http://www.mjmturbos.com/Graveyards.htm
Still, I will not sell turbo from you guys. I joined not because to take advantage selling turbo but rather enjoy the technical
knowledge. I love to hear a grasshoppers telling me what to do with my project. I love to see kids learn and try. I always
respect and encourage kids to play mechanical stuffs than taking drugs.
For Andrew---> again, my advice is to honor your relationship with the buyer. It will be very beneficial in a long run.
Simply refund the money and move forwards. Heal the wound and benefits from the mistakes.
Jaime
In an earlier comment, I accepted responsibility for not communicating better. I am going to refund his money and eat the restock fee (or most likely shelve the turbo) for the poor initial comunication on my part. I am not refunding the payment based on any potential legal recourse, because there is none. I have not done anything against the law, just an oversight on my part that caused frustration on the part of Drew.
Andrew
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So, you dicked someone over for 2 months, lied (or didn't give the whole story) and offered to feed them more shit?
Be glad you're not dealing with me, I guess. I'd get you into court just to make your life miserable. I'd consider it money well spent. In business, you need to either get product out or get cash out, whatever... you make the customer happy.
These guys are being really nice to you. Honestly. And imo, sadly.
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So, you dicked someone over for 2 months, lied (or didn't give the whole story) and offered to feed them more shit?
Be glad you're not dealing with me, I guess. I'd get you into court just to make your life miserable. I'd consider it money well spent. In business, you need to either get product out or get cash out, whatever... you make the customer happy.
These guys are being really nice to you. Honestly. And imo, sadly.
+1000
F.A.S.T has had a 1/2 dozen threads posted about him hear and everyone has sung the EXACT same tune....lied too, jerked around, and then ignored.
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where's my money :roll:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=x01B7ECu5uM
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he's not refunding your money....
lawyer.
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no need for a lawyer, going to file a claim on tuesday for small claims court :wink:. damn presidents day anyhow.
really goes to show what kind of person he is. what prolly happened was the bank is out of money orders and cashiers checks, so there on back order right now, and will be here next week :roll:
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Yeah and now when you take him to court he will have to pay a restocking fee. LOL
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plus the fee's to get here, plus the fee's of court, plus the fee's of me and my wife having to take a day off of work :thumb:.
either way he is screwed. it would be cheaper for him not to spend money on a flight. and the judge will rule out his restock fee :lol:
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almost forgot, plus the intrest.
he is going to have a hard time proving that 20% restock fee, since he never told me it was not a self turbo until a week ago :lol:
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Yeah he's not really had that good of a track record. I know its a little late but here's another thread with some more of his service maybe you can get all of the bad posts on his service together for record or something.
http://forums.dragbike.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5600&PN=1
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yeah i read that a couple weeks ago. wonder if they guy ever got his turbo system :?:
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Dont know there was on on gixxer .com last year also.
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get em buddy, and next time buy from dennis, rcc, or mcxpress :thumb: :lol: :lol:
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Drew,
You said specifically not to call you, I stated very obviously that I was going to refund your money on this thread and in emailed response! I came on hear and publicly accepted responsibility and now you are disrespecting me. Is this why you prefer not to talk in person? I think you know that I was being completely honest with you but you made a change of plans. As stated earlier, there was a misunderstanding that AGAIN I accepted responsibility for. I will be back in the office Tuesday and I recommend you send some communication (however you fell comfortable, email/by phone) as to whether you simply still want the refund in full.
Andrew
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Drew,
You said specifically not to call you, I stated very obviously that I was going to refund your money on this thread and in emailed response! I came on hear and publicly accepted responsibility and now you are disrespecting me. Is this why you prefer not to talk in person? I think you know that I was being completely honest with you but you made a change of plans. As stated earlier, there was a misunderstanding that AGAIN I accepted responsibility for. I will be back in the office Tuesday and I recommend you send some communication (however you fell comfortable, email/by phone) as to whether you simply still want the refund in full.
Andrew
did i stutter when i said i wanted my money by 2/19/07? prolly not since it is in writing. its not to hard to send a money order. and does not take that long to do so. you have never emailed me anything, so dont give me that.i even email you again on thursday, that you never repsonded too. i told you no phone calls, becuase i wanted printable documents. disrepecting you? LMFAO.... who has disrespected who here? you can call and leave a message (i can save them), but i will not be answering it, so say what you have to say in the message.
give me my money
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:lol: this goes to prove how much of a lier he is. now he is stating that he did not understand about sending a money order. guess everybody but him, understood that. i suggest if you do not want to deal with court here is 5 easy steps to follow
go to the bank
get a cashiers check
send it next day air, with tracking number (im not putting off going to the court house any longer. then one day)
call me and leave a meassage stating you under stand this, before tuesday 2/20/07.
send me the tracking number on 2/20/07
if this is not done, i will go to the court house on tuesday.
im not doing the nice guy thing any longer. you bring this shit on yourself.
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Where is Jason Gennaro? Last I heard he was still fucked over his deal with them. Did that ever get straightened out?
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Andrew...why prolong a simple problem? Give all his money back and move on.
You will lose regardless of what...
The transactions happened from his town, he has a right to file a court claim to his district court.
If you are legit business, then you are registered at the Ohio State internal revenue.
If you lose, Sheriff will take whatever amount necessary to compensate the victim.
You cannot operate until payment has been made.
Worse yet, if you are not a registered business (your registration is public domain)and you are operating illegal, he can file a report
at the Internal Revenue and Ohio Motor vehicle....you're screwed for little money you took interest from someone.
If you take someone's money and never send the goods, that is a fraud.
Fraudulence is a sickness, I'm sure your far from this.....I hope.
Drew,
You said specifically not to call you, I stated very obviously that I was going to refund your money on this thread and in emailed response! I came on hear and publicly accepted responsibility and now you are disrespecting me. Is this why you prefer not to talk in person? I think you know that I was being completely honest with you but you made a change of plans. As stated earlier, there was a misunderstanding that AGAIN I accepted responsibility for. I will be back in the office Tuesday and I recommend you send some communication (however you fell comfortable, email/by phone) as to whether you simply still want the refund in full.
Andrew
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I am stating one final time that I AGREED to simply send a FULL REFUND! Dave (Finish Line Customs), I appreciate you being polite and respect your opinion. That is what I agreed to earlier in the post. Drew, you have quite a bit of confidence in typing the things that you would not say to me on the phone. If you would like your refund, email me your shipping address.
Andrew
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so your stating now that i am scared to argue on a phone :lol:. what good is that going to do? its nice for the people on this board to see what kind of person you are, and for any people searching your companys name. there is NO reason why i should not have my money already. you keep stating that you agreed to refund my money, but that was a week ago.
kinda odd that you keep trying to turn this around on me huh? make it seem like im the bad guy? name one thing that i have done wrong? :roll:
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2 emails sent. i will expect a tracking number by the end of the day on 2/20/07
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Drew,
I am not particularly trying to turn anything around on you, I just think you have made some obnoxious comments toward me. Forums are a great resource for customers and vendors alike, I just think sometime we all have a tendency to jump on the band wagon a bit. You are correct in stating that a week has gone by since I agreed to return the funds, that is not excessive or abusive. The money order has been processed and will be mailed out today based on the holiday. Whether you believe it or not, I am in fact absorbing a 30% restock fee for a turbo that I do not use in my typical stage 1 or 2 systems. You gave me the specifics on what you had and what you wanted to do and I specd a turbo that I had assembled in the past that would net those results. I don't even sell turbos normally! We had not come to an actual agreement or spoken on the phone when I got an email stating the check was in the mail! I give price quotes everyday and the method that this whole deal took place just caught me napping. If you feel defensive for any of the things that I have said, I still do not mean for that in any such way. I just am stating my thoughts as well of the situation.
Andrew
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I'm sure if you do so much business, you will have no problem selling this turbo. Eat a 30% restocking fee my ass. Learn to do business, or get the hell out of business you jackass.
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Where is Jason Gennaro? Last I heard he was still fucked over his deal with them. Did that ever get straightened out?
Yea, are you ever going to make that deal right Andrew? The last I heard from Montgomery County I was going to get some $ up front and then $ every month until the debt is paid off. Can you publicly state where we are with the case or send me a PM with the latest and greatest info?
Jason
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This guy is a "site supporter"
J
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Hey John,
This has been an on going topic and I became a site supporter so as to not take a free ride. I sent you a PM John and sorry to everyone for continuing to take up space.
Andrew
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Hey John,
This has been an on going topic and I became a site supporter so as to not take a free ride. I sent you a PM John and sorry to everyone for continuing to take up space.
Andrew
Andrew,
If indeed you want to attain future business here you're going to have to make it right with past customers. I can't speak for everyone but I know that our situation is almost resolved. Take care of myself and the rest of the past customers and I'm sure you'll do well on this site. Now that Dennis is gone we need more tuners/installers to be active in turbo talk. Time will tell to see what happens. Good luck.
Jason
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Thanks Jason, I sent a PM to John referencing several would be "great customers" that were over stressed myself and/or our company and you certainly were one that I had in mind.
I saw a pick somewhere of your stuff dissassembled, is that a hybrid KKK turbo? Can I safely assume everything is back together now and running correctly from the "little" fuel issue you mentioned to me? Hope all is well-
Regards, Andrew
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Thanks Jason, I sent a PM to John referencing several would be "great customers" that were over stressed myself and/or our company and you certainly were one that I had in mind.
I saw a pick somewhere of your stuff dissassembled, is that a hybrid KKK turbo? Can I safely assume everything is back together now and running correctly from the "little" fuel issue you mentioned to me? Hope all is well-
Regards, Andrew
Andrew,
That is a KKK hybrid. It's a K26 exhaust/K27 intake. The bike is working tip top right now and I would like to keep it that way. The fuel issue was resolved when I had a small pipe welded onto the return line to stop the aeration in the tank. It really is an awesome machine and I'm very happy with it!
I'm looking forward to fully resolving our issue. Can I assume that it will be completely resolved within the next month? Thank you.
Jason
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I thought it was. Should spool quite nice with some crazy potential on top!
Everything should in fact be finalized by next month indeed.
Regards, Andrew
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Blah blah blah blah... site supporter or not, you will never get a single fucking cent of my business... not after the bullshit you have put others through. Business is business, and you have burned your bridges.
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I'm afraid I'm with YAG on this one. Pretty words might convince people that the bad times are gone but of course you'd expect nothing more in front of a large audience. A poor traders true colours are often more likely to show-through when they think no-one but the victim will ever know about it.
Trust is 10x harder to re-gain, than to gain in the first place.
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I'm afraid I'm with YAG on this one. Pretty words might convince people that the bad times are gone but of course you'd expect nothing more in front of a large audience. A poor traders true colours are often more likely to show-through when they think no-one but the victim will ever know about it.
Trust is 10x harder to re-gain, than to gain in the first place.
:clp:
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Since I have been not able to contact Andrew by any other means I will post here also.
Seems he is here more often then checking emails.
Long story short - it is coming to 2(two) years soon from my $3500 payment of a turbo system for gsxr 1000.
Is it possible for me to actually get it or at least a refund or something.
Waiting for a reply,
Ron
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Ok... Im from europe, didin't mention that earlier.
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Hey Andrew; are they made of brass or steel
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Ronbon, I'm sorry to hear of your issue with Andrew if indeed u did pay for something u didn't receive.....i hope it is resolved.
on a side note i truly do believe Andrew makes a good product and is trying very hard to rectify things that happened in the past. i myself ordered a kit from Andrew (FAST) aprox. 4 weeks ago, he was very helpful and answered every call (or called me right back) and email that i sent him. he told me at time of order 3/4 weeks for delivery and it took exactly 4 weeks. everything that is supposed to be there is.....no knockoff parts (other than BOV) which i was aware of at the time of ordering. the header and all other pieces are made well, nice welds etc. all in all i guess I'm saying that my transaction with Andrew went very well and i would use him in the future without a second thought. take it for what its worth but Andrew (FAST) did right by me :thumb:
Dan
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there is NO excuse for stealing someones money for 2 years, bad bad bad stuff, watch for that karma
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I'm afraid I'm with YAG on this one. Pretty words might convince people that the bad times are gone but of course you'd expect nothing more in front of a large audience. A poor traders true colours are often more likely to show-through when they think no-one but the victim will ever know about it.
Trust is 10x harder to re-gain, than to gain in the first place.
double ditto.
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I know I will catch heat for this but I think after everything Andrew has done for me I should at least post my experience. About 6 months ago I bought a full turbo kit from Andrew @ F.A.S.T. for my Hayabusa. Andrew did an amazing job in describing the kit to me and explaining exactly what to expect and everything was awsome. I have had a lot of problems with my local shop during the install of this kit and Andrew did everything short of fly down to Louisiana and build my bike himself. I am not trying to short these guys of whats going on or say their accounts of events are not accurate. I just thought with everyone sharing bad experiences people should know that at least for me everything went great and I would deal with Andrew and F.A.S.T. again in a heartbeat.
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Well that is not going to get me my money back or the kit.
Basically he uses my money to make kits for other people.
That kind of behavior shows that Andrew is very to-faced person in my oppinion...
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Ronbon,
You and I have spoken at length through email and I have continued to attempt to clear up your situation. Publicly, his system had nothing to do with me but I have been working to get the refund/system to him regardless. I had hoped when I took over things that situations like this one were going to be rectified by the previous individual. They still have not and it will fall to my shoulders. As I stated to you, Ronny, I will personally take care of you with the refund.
Andrew
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It has always been you I have spoken to from the beginning...
Anyways, tell me then when I'm going to get the refund or the kit?
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Ronbon,
You and I have spoken at length through email and I have continued to attempt to clear up your situation. Publicly, his system had nothing to do with me but I have been working to get the refund/system to him regardless. I had hoped when I took over things that situations like this one were going to be rectified by the previous individual. They still have not and it will fall to my shoulders. As I stated to you, Ronny, I will personally take care of you with the refund.
Andrew
2 years?
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:brk: :arg:
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As anyone who knows me or has done business with me will already now, I don't typically blow my own horn or my companies. But I feel compelled to speak up here, I realize some people will shop around for a better price on a turbo system, not because they are cheap, only because not everyone has a lot of money to spend, or maybe they are on a budget, etc. Granted my turbo systems may be a little higher then some other systems out there, but I am quite confident in saying, our delivery time for production turbo kits is the quickest in the industry. You will always get what you pay for, and I believe our tech support to be second to none (hell I even tech support competitors kits, who else does that?) Also our support never stops, also I beleive I am safe in saying that my companies reputation and my own reputation can speak for themselves.
Maybe piece of mind is the best thing to have in the long run, everything taken into consideration, you may find RCC products to be the best choice? I am sure other companies have done right by most of their customers, but still have issues from time to time. Why not put your trust into a company that maintains a virtually perfect track record?
Richard
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Well said Richard, couldn't agree with you more :thumb:
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Ronbon,
You and I have spoken at length through email and I have continued to attempt to clear up your situation. Publicly, his system had nothing to do with me but I have been working to get the refund/system to him regardless. I had hoped when I took over things that situations like this one were going to be rectified by the previous individual. They still have not and it will fall to my shoulders. As I stated to you, Ronny, I will personally take care of you with the refund.
Andrew
if Ron paid you money, and hasnt recieved product, YOU are the one who owes him money. peroid. trying to pawn it off on someone else falls right in line with the rest of the BULLSHIT you dish out here. Doing buisness with you is like Russian Roulette.
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he probably sold someone elses kit and claimed it was his....just like he did to Supergrizz.
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Last time I got an email from Andrew was on 12. june 2007
No word from him since...
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Ronny,
That is not true althought the situation is in fact un-resolved.
Andrew
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why is FAST allowed to sell on this site?
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why is FAST allowed to sell on this site?
Good question.
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hey, let him pay to have his bullshit exposed....afterall, he didnt want a 'free ride'. paying a site to expose his theft and bad buisness practices seems about as smart as anything else he does...
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I have said from the beginning that there were a few un-resolved situations and in fact this is one of them. It did not begin by being my problem personally and I tried to get it resolved behind the scenes along with many larger issues un-related to customer business. That has only drug on to the point that it will in fact likely be handled by me personally now.
Regards, Andrew
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And who was the other owner? People have called BS on you saying it has been you from the start.
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I'd like to know too when this problem is going to be solved.
here is the ebay auction from 12. dec 2005 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4595879059)
I made contact with Andrew through this exact auction - so there should be no confusion about who I have been talking to all this time - I have all the emails signed by Andrew so that makes double proof.
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2 years.....
I would have been waiting on his doorstep long before now!
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Total BS, this should be rectified right now, not a year from now, not 2 years from now, you paid for a product and a fucking product you should get, or a damn refund.
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This thread began on February 8th with night ryder. The result was never posted, was a refund received by night ryder?
There was a statement quite a while ago that there were several customers that were "stressed" by the same type of "situation". Have all the other "situatuons" been resolved now with the exception of Ronbon?
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That is exactly what I have done for a few days now.
I failed complaints to several law enforcement bureaus and I will continiue to do so until I see some actions.
I will be posting any progress here.
Ron
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I don't have a dog in this but the administrator is right, anybody that has had a bitch with FAST and andrew it would only be right if there personal deals were ever resolved and if they have it should be posted here, because all we read about is how he screwed everybody and there brother.
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How about making this thread a sticky and giving Andrew the advertisement he deserves! Hopefully it'll pop up when a future customer googles the word Turbo.
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What's the news Ronbon? Fast?
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Sounds like smooth talkin' Andy is paddling his way up shit creek... if it gets much thicker the paddle might get stuck and then he wouldn't have a paddle any more... then where would he be?
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Sounds like smooth talkin' Andy is paddling his way up shit creek... if it gets much thicker the paddle might get stuck and then he wouldn't have a paddle any more... then where would he be?
Right where he put himself
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No new posts by FAST since Oct 29th? Where did he go? Any news on this situation?
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:D
Ok yall I'm brand new here but am very glad I came accross this site. It looks like I'll have many knowledgable people to bug about my turbo questions since this is my first go round with it.
Now with that said...I have also been dealing with Andrew for well over a year now. Basically the same situation as everyone else that isnt happy with FAST. I do have some of the parts but this has possibly been the most stressfull thing I've ever been involved in. I myself run my own business and am not sure how someone can stay afloat with all this horrible service. Where I'm at now is he owes me quite a few parts from my kit still. No return emails and no returned phone calls. Repeadetly has broken promises of ship dates and delivery dates. My entire project has stayed at a stand still for over a year, while of course he has had the enjoyment of my money for well over a year. So I guess what it comes down to is I get to waste mine and alot of other peoples time to go after him legally to get the money for the parts I have yet to recieve. :evil:
So here is couple things I'm hoping you guys can help me with and if I need to post this in a different thread let me know. I need:
a new compressor/intake housing for my gt28 (the one from andrew had a pipe that was welded to it that got in the way of what I was trying to do. Also per my conversations with andrew that pipe was not supposed to be welded to the housing and yet it came like that anyways)
where to go and what company to go with for water/methanol injection
head spacer gasket
BOV
I'll probably just make my own but if anyone has an intake plenum they are looking to get rid of please let me know.
I'm sure there is more but I dont have my list in front of me so this should be a good start. any help would be awesome. Thanks!!! :thumb:
P.S. - I have somehwere in the neighborhood of 30 or so emails back and forth from correspondence between Andrew and I that show promised delivery dates and saying he's shipping things out that I never have received if anyone is interested. Thanks again!
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Hey Overkill; welcome, to bad you got involved with fast I know it probably don't make you feel better but a lot of other people were too. when everybody saw his e-bay ads for 3400-3500 dollars for a complete turbo kit vs other kits for 4000+, I admit I phoned him about a kit but lucky for me he didn't answer the phone when I called him I was in the middle of researching this deal as a few weeks went by it got down to Richard at RCC and Barry at Velocity Barry answered the phone Richard didn't I had my kit 4 weeks to the day from when I ordered it tech support was good except the map on the CD he sends with the kit is not even close had to get dyno map done. you may want to ck the ads for turbo stuff on this forum and at H.ORG it's a bitch that you have to search around and probably pay again for stuff you should have but it's probably the only way your going to get the bike running. remove the compressor housing from the turbo and cut the up pipe from the housing just leave enough to clamp the hose then you can index the housing where you want. call Richard at RCC he may have the spare parts you need.... post back if you get anywhere finding the rest of what you need
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Yes well unfortunately I had already sent the housing back to him which was supposed to be replaced with a new unmodified one along with my intake plenum which was supposed to be cleaned up or replaced. The intake plenum went back because it looked like someone took a flippin grinder to it. Was promised a two week turnaround on both of those and its been months now since ive sent them back and since i've had any contact from him. Not for lack of effort on my part! :evil:
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hey overkill,sorry you have gotten involved with fast turbo's seems like he has taken alot of good members money on here.i have a brand new water injection kit that velocity made for me.it has the billet aluminum tank,solenoid,.5mm jet,line and fittings.it is all brand new never used.i will take 350 for it.good luck on your turbo :thumb:
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Hey thanks for the offer. is the soleniod the pump? Sorry but like I said this is my first go around with all this. Also what engages it RPM's or is it on all the time. thanks busamagic.
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no pump you add a regulated air source to it.around 90psi and when it reaches 8lbs boost the hobbs switch activates the solenoid and mist's the water into the up pipe.
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I am going to need something that uses a pump so that wont work for my application. But again I really appreciate the offer to help me out.
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Wanted to throw in an update about my dealings with FAST. Andrew emailed me this morning saying he'd get ahold of me next week in depth to figure things out. Not holding my breath exactly but it'd be nice if he can actually come through. I'll keep you guys up dated.
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Overkill , I have a spare new GT28R compressor housing if you need it still .
Dave
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i did get my money back a month after this all went down. so 3 month of waiting just to get a refund. i still have a bad taste in my mouth everytime i hear his name. i will ALWAYS try my best to steer away anybody interested in his kit. there is nothing he can do to fix the situation with me. it was uncalled for. he cant deal with somthing as simple as a turbo. i ordered a turbo from another company that i got in a few days.
i cant believe the site lets him support :grn:
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Night Rider, thats cool letting everyone know whats going on. and +1 on the sight support business, don't get that
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Andrew wants to pay his way here while he solves these issues. He is not running a banner ad, and he's not getting a free ride. The problems are being dealt with very publicly, and all members are not only allowed to participate but encouraged to do so.
Just yesterday another member logged in that had not been here in some time and added his experience.
Night Rider, thank you for letting all know your issue has ended, and how you feel about it.
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http://psychobike.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=3cb262dcd0ff5cb4b08a360f4774cc6e;act=ST;f=6;t=50975
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Hey Admin, Seems kinda hypocritical that you won't allow anything about Dennis/TMH (and he has outright stole 10's of thousands) without sending the post to sales section. but leave this in the turbo sec and even encourage it. when most of the comments are from people that have no dealings with or have ever even talked to Andrew.
I don't have a turbo yet but will probably get it from FAST. seems anyone that goes to him now gets a nice turbo and gets it quickly. And he is atempting to fix the wrongs of the past. where as Dennis has done nothing to correct the past from what I have read.
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Moved.
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Any efforts anyone makes to fix bad deals is appreciated by all for what it's worth.
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Hey Admin, Seems kinda hypocritical that you won't allow anything about Dennis/TMH (and he has outright stole 10's of thousands) without sending the post to sales section. but leave this in the turbo sec and even encourage it. when most of the comments are from people that have no dealings with or have ever even talked to Andrew.
I don't have a turbo yet but will probably get it from FAST. seems anyone that goes to him now gets a nice turbo and gets it quickly. And he is atempting to fix the wrongs of the past. where as Dennis has done nothing to correct the past from what I have read.
First of all........admin is doing what he has to to curtail the negativity of Motorheads drama. I think we all appreciate that. Nobody wants to get on this site for information and be bogged down with issues of the past. As of this point whatever issues there are with Motorhead will be dealt with by the court system and frankly...............we have no control of that so why rehash the issues?
Secondly, the members on this site have valuable information concerning motorcycles, turbos, and vendors. You may want to use this to your advantage and fully research the next purchase you make! That's my $.02!
Jason
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Hey Admin, Seems kinda hypocritical that you won't allow anything about Dennis/TMH (and he has outright stole 10's of thousands) without sending the post to sales section. but leave this in the turbo sec and even encourage it. when most of the comments are from people that have no dealings with or have ever even talked to Andrew.
I don't have a turbo yet but will probably get it from FAST. seems anyone that goes to him now gets a nice turbo and gets it quickly. And he is atempting to fix the wrongs of the past. where as Dennis has done nothing to correct the past from what I have read.
Man I can't help but think that because of the fact that you see so many people getting fucked by this guy and still stick up for him, that you either ARE him, or you have his cock and balls buried deep in your throat.
What is the last post you have seen on here from him since more people have posted about their bad dealings with him? NONE... What has been said about issues being resolved since the last time he posted here? NOTHING...
You are the only person sticking up for him, and you haven't even dealt with the douchebag. I hope you get ripped off too.
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Man I can't help but think that because of the fact that you see so many people getting fucked by this guy and still stick up for him, that you either ARE him, or you have his cock and balls buried deep in your throat.
What is the last post you have seen on here from him since more people have posted about their bad dealings with him? NONE... What has been said about issues being resolved since the last time he posted here? NOTHING...
You are the only person sticking up for him, and you haven't even dealt with the douchebag. I hope you get ripped off too.
Buy your comment I assume you are Gay and think that the perverted gay sex acts that you enjoy are commonplace and acceptable.They are not. Most of us don't do the things you do with other men. or even want to hear about the things you are thinking about.
you are a prime example of someone that jumps on the bandwaggon when you know nothing. If you don't want to spend your dads pay check with him don't. (no adult would be so over the top as you) but don't try to tell me how to spend mine.
I wouldn't post here if I were him either the way guys like you (that know nothing) dog him.
and I'm not the only one sticking up for him, not by a long shot. I know people from here that have purchased recently and are very happy but don't want to be insulted by the likes of you. and as for your wish that I get riped off.. thanks for caring enough about me to wish for something. unfortunately I can't respond in kind because I don't care enough about you to give you any further thought.
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Hey Admin, Seems kinda hypocritical that you won't allow anything about Dennis/TMH (and he has outright stole 10's of thousands) without sending the post to sales section. but leave this in the turbo sec and even encourage it. when most of the comments are from people that have no dealings with or have ever even talked to Andrew.
I don't have a turbo yet but will probably get it from FAST. seems anyone that goes to him now gets a nice turbo and gets it quickly. And he is atempting to fix the wrongs of the past. where as Dennis has done nothing to correct the past from what I have read.
First of all........admin is doing what he has to to curtail the negativity of Motorheads drama. I think we all appreciate that. Nobody wants to get on this site for information and be bogged down with issues of the past. As of this point whatever issues there are with Motorhead will be dealt with by the court system and frankly...............we have no control of that so why rehash the issues?
Secondly, the members on this site have valuable information concerning motorcycles, turbos, and vendors. You may want to use this to your advantage and fully research the next purchase you make! That's my $.02!
Jason
I always appreciate your $.02 give it any time, I just seemed like a double standard to me. If it isn't then I'm wrong. its just that If I get a FAST turbo I don't want people thinking its a piece of crap. so I took this post kinda personal. I like standing up for the underdog as long as he is trying now. and some here just want to pile on.
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Soooooooo I'm not piling on. But dealing with Andrew has been one of the most stressfull transactions I have ever delt with in my life...including buying my first house years ago. Fixing things??? well its been over a year for me so I wouldnt hold your breath....you might die.
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Buy your comment I assume you are Gay and think that the perverted gay sex acts that you enjoy are commonplace and acceptable.They are not. Most of us don't do the things you do with other men. or even want to hear about the things you are thinking about.
you are a prime example of someone that jumps on the bandwaggon when you know nothing. If you don't want to spend your dads pay check with him don't. (no adult would be so over the top as you) but don't try to tell me how to spend mine.
I wouldn't post here if I were him either the way guys like you (that know nothing) dog him.
and I'm not the only one sticking up for him, not by a long shot. I know people from here that have purchased recently and are very happy but don't want to be insulted by the likes of you. and as for your wish that I get riped off.. thanks for caring enough about me to wish for something. unfortunately I can't respond in kind because I don't care enough about you to give you any further thought.
wft is this. are you in high school or somthing? this is one of the better sites out there for turbo bikes, and if immature comments like this are going to be allowed, it time for me to move on.
if you have nothing good to say, dont say it. you have never purphased anything from andrew so you have no room to talk. i guess you want to learn the hard way. i could not find any info on andrew before i made the purphase. this is a good thread for the next guy looking for info on him. so stop filling it with you immature comments
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Overkill and Night Ryder, you have both had dealings with him, I want to hear from you. just like telling jgennaro I appreciate his $.02 that who I want to hear from good or bad. Not the childish comments of people like Yag.
and your correct Night Ryder I have no room to talk, thats why I have not cut him down or built him up. nor have I said any of you that have dealt with him are wrong. Just the same as I defended RCC when someone flipped out cutting him down. when the guy hadn't even called RCC to ask B4 posting complaints here.
Although Night Ryder, I am supprised you have a problem with my belittling retaliation toward the childish comments made by Yag, and you had no problem with his comments.
You act like I bitched to get this removed completely. I only bitched about the double standard between two people that have sold products here.
I will never be a lemming and just jump on the bandwaggon. If I listened to the good advise of ALL those around me (except Busa Snoop) I wouldn't have a hayabusa at all.
P.S. for the people still owed money/parts you need Guys like me that live close enough to FAST to knock on the door If I'm having a problem, To buy turbos from him so he has money to continue to repay you.
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i posted my dealings with Andrew (FAST) a couple pages back, my "RECENT" transaction went very smooth. Ive had several people that know what there looking at look at the kit and they all say it looks very good. most all of the negative feedback that is showing up here is people from the past....Andrew has admitted he had some issues in the past several times......so why is it such a suprise that some people are showing up and telling us there bad story? as Ive said i feel very bad for anyone thats deal went bad in the past but i think Andrew is trying to fix it as fast as he can. i personally race/know am friends with several members from this board and they know i have nothing to do with Andrew/FAST (other than my transaction) I'm just telling it how it was for me :thumb: i have nothing to gain from talking good about FAST and as a matter of fact i completely understand why alot are still sceptical. we are grown adults....make your decisions and live by them...simple as that.
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Well hey...yay for the recent people. Nothing like making your new customers happy now and just waiting for the ones you've wronged to just give up and go away so people forget (which I wont) about how bad they've been treated by a company or in this case a person. Man what an awesome way to do business. BusaBoom.....not trying to give you shit in any way, but this seems to actually be the way he has been conducting business. I'd have to read back to see what you had to go through with Andrew but I'm sure it was something along the lines of this.....Paid for....Promised delivery date. Waited..waited..waited..called..waited..waited..emailed..waited..waited..well you get the point. To bad I didnt wait a year to build my motor, I'd prolly be done already since its more important to him to take care of the new customers and forget about the old. BlackCloud, if you wanna knock on his door to give him money so he can give it to me, or so he can buy the parts he owes me please do. Orrr you can just send me the check and cut out the middle man :) lol. Either way if you deal with him, good luck man. I'd rather not even take the chance of what's happened to me and a few others on here happening to you, completely not worth it. My build would have been done MONTHS ago if not for Andrew. And when I say months i mean many months. Like 8 or so.
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Well hey...yay for the recent people. Nothing like making your new customers happy now and just waiting for the ones you've wronged to just give up and go away so people forget (which I wont) about how bad they've been treated by a company or in this case a person. Man what an awesome way to do business. BusaBoom.....not trying to give you shit in any way, but this seems to actually be the way he has been conducting business. I'd have to read back to see what you had to go through with Andrew but I'm sure it was something along the lines of this.....Paid for....Promised delivery date. Waited..waited..waited..called..waited..waited..emailed..waited..waited..well you get the point. To bad I didnt wait a year to build my motor, I'd prolly be done already since its more important to him to take care of the new customers and forget about the old. BlackCloud, if you wanna knock on his door to give him money so he can give it to me, or so he can buy the parts he owes me please do. Orrr you can just send me the check and cut out the middle man :) lol. Either way if you deal with him, good luck man. I'd rather not even take the chance of what's happened to me and a few others on here happening to you, completely not worth it. My build would have been done MONTHS ago if not for Andrew. And when I say months i mean many months. Like 8 or so.
from your post on the 9th its now next week...has he at least contacted you about your housing and plenum?
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Nope, and he also owes me a spacer plate, water injection, air filter......
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Well hey...yay for the recent people. Nothing like making your new customers happy now and just waiting for the ones you've wronged to just give up and go away so people forget (which I wont) about how bad they've been treated by a company or in this case a person. Man what an awesome way to do business. BusaBoom.....not trying to give you shit in any way, but this seems to actually be the way he has been conducting business. I'd have to read back to see what you had to go through with Andrew but I'm sure it was something along the lines of this.....Paid for....Promised delivery date. Waited..waited..waited..called..waited..waited..emailed..waited..waited..well you get the point. To bad I didnt wait a year to build my motor, I'd prolly be done already since its more important to him to take care of the new customers and forget about the old. BlackCloud, if you wanna knock on his door to give him money so he can give it to me, or so he can buy the parts he owes me please do. Orrr you can just send me the check and cut out the middle man :) lol. Either way if you deal with him, good luck man. I'd rather not even take the chance of what's happened to me and a few others on here happening to you, completely not worth it. My build would have been done MONTHS ago if not for Andrew. And when I say months i mean many months. Like 8 or so.
from your post on the 9th its now next week...has he at least contacted you about your housing and plenum?
this is what he does. he tells you a week every time. so you call and call and call and call and call. when he does answer he will tell you a week. he is on the ball when it comes to new customers. he email me back right away. seemed like sombody i could trust. when he got my money, he did his majic trick and disappeared. i musta called him every other day and left several voice messages. only actually talked to him maybe 3 times in the 3 months he had my money. rob peter to pay paul.
if you do buy his kit make sure you use paypal. that way you are backed up if he pulls this shit again. there is a reason why he does not do paypal. paypal will get your money back if it does not come when he says it will.
if you are doing it to save money, its not worth it. if he lowered his price to 2500 i would still call richard, seb, or burt. atleast they answer the phone EVERY time i call.
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Well hey...yay for the recent people. Nothing like making your new customers happy now and just waiting for the ones you've wronged to just give up and go away so people forget (which I wont) about how bad they've been treated by a company or in this case a person. Man what an awesome way to do business. BusaBoom.....not trying to give you shit in any way, but this seems to actually be the way he has been conducting business. I'd have to read back to see what you had to go through with Andrew but I'm sure it was something along the lines of this.....Paid for....Promised delivery date. Waited..waited..waited..called..waited..waited..emailed..waited..waited..well you get the point. To bad I didnt wait a year to build my motor, I'd prolly be done already since its more important to him to take care of the new customers and forget about the old. BlackCloud, if you wanna knock on his door to give him money so he can give it to me, or so he can buy the parts he owes me please do. Orrr you can just send me the check and cut out the middle man :) lol. Either way if you deal with him, good luck man. I'd rather not even take the chance of what's happened to me and a few others on here happening to you, completely not worth it. My build would have been done MONTHS ago if not for Andrew. And when I say months i mean many months. Like 8 or so.
from your post on the 9th its now next week...has he at least contacted you about your housing and plenum?
this is what he does. he tells you a week every time. so you call and call and call and call and call. when he does answer he will tell you a week. he is on the ball when it comes to new customers. he email me back right away. seemed like sombody i could trust. when he got my money, he did his majic trick and disappeared. i musta called him every other day and left several voice messages. only actually talked to him maybe 3 times in the 3 months he had my money. rob peter to pay paul.
if you do buy his kit make sure you use paypal. that way you are backed up if he pulls this shit again. there is a reason why he does not do paypal. paypal will get your money back if it does not come when he says it will.
if you are doing it to save money, its not worth it. if he lowered his price to 2500 i would still call richard, seb, or burt. atleast they answer the phone EVERY time i call.
you only recently recieved your money back, and he had it for 3 months? so you placed your turbo order with him this summer?
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You were able to get everything squared away after 3 months....pssshhh LUCKY!!!
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Man I can't help but think that because of the fact that you see so many people getting fucked by this guy and still stick up for him, that you either ARE him, or you have his cock and balls buried deep in your throat.
What is the last post you have seen on here from him since more people have posted about their bad dealings with him? NONE... What has been said about issues being resolved since the last time he posted here? NOTHING...
You are the only person sticking up for him, and you haven't even dealt with the douchebag. I hope you get ripped off too.
Buy your comment I assume you are Gay and think that the perverted gay sex acts that you enjoy are commonplace and acceptable.They are not. Most of us don't do the things you do with other men. or even want to hear about the things you are thinking about.
you are a prime example of someone that jumps on the bandwaggon when you know nothing. If you don't want to spend your dads pay check with him don't. (no adult would be so over the top as you) but don't try to tell me how to spend mine.
I wouldn't post here if I were him either the way guys like you (that know nothing) dog him.
and I'm not the only one sticking up for him, not by a long shot. I know people from here that have purchased recently and are very happy but don't want to be insulted by the likes of you. and as for your wish that I get riped off.. thanks for caring enough about me to wish for something. unfortunately I can't respond in kind because I don't care enough about you to give you any further thought.
I'm so happy that you "buy" my comment :lol:
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Well hey...yay for the recent people. Nothing like making your new customers happy now and just waiting for the ones you've wronged to just give up and go away so people forget (which I wont) about how bad they've been treated by a company or in this case a person. Man what an awesome way to do business. BusaBoom.....not trying to give you shit in any way, but this seems to actually be the way he has been conducting business. I'd have to read back to see what you had to go through with Andrew but I'm sure it was something along the lines of this.....Paid for....Promised delivery date. Waited..waited..waited..called..waited..waited..emailed..waited..waited..well you get the point. To bad I didnt wait a year to build my motor, I'd prolly be done already since its more important to him to take care of the new customers and forget about the old. BlackCloud, if you wanna knock on his door to give him money so he can give it to me, or so he can buy the parts he owes me please do. Orrr you can just send me the check and cut out the middle man :) lol. Either way if you deal with him, good luck man. I'd rather not even take the chance of what's happened to me and a few others on here happening to you, completely not worth it. My build would have been done MONTHS ago if not for Andrew. And when I say months i mean many months. Like 8 or so.
from your post on the 9th its now next week...has he at least contacted you about your housing and plenum?
this is what he does. he tells you a week every time. so you call and call and call and call and call. when he does answer he will tell you a week. he is on the ball when it comes to new customers. he email me back right away. seemed like sombody i could trust. when he got my money, he did his majic trick and disappeared. i musta called him every other day and left several voice messages. only actually talked to him maybe 3 times in the 3 months he had my money. rob peter to pay paul.
if you do buy his kit make sure you use paypal. that way you are backed up if he pulls this shit again. there is a reason why he does not do paypal. paypal will get your money back if it does not come when he says it will.
if you are doing it to save money, its not worth it. if he lowered his price to 2500 i would still call richard, seb, or burt. atleast they answer the phone EVERY time i call.
you only recently recieved your money back, and he had it for 3 months? so you placed your turbo order with him this summer?
no this was about this time last year. look at when the thread was started.
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actually it was 2 months for him to tell me i would get a refund, and another month to actually get the refund.
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Man that is just rediculous :bah: :shock: :evil:
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Update::::
I met Andrew from FAST this week at the PRI show in Orlando Florida.
Seemed like a nice guy however he admitted he made mistakes in the past however I am not up to date on whether he ever made good on his transactions from several of a you here..
What ended up happening?
J
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Not that I'm aware of
Him being alive is a miracle imo after all that we read he screwed between this and a few other boards
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Removed as a sponsor and account restricted, no selling allowed here ever again.
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Update::::
I met Andrew from FAST this week at the PRI show in Orlando Florida.
Seemed like a nice guy however he admitted he made mistakes in the past however I am not up to date on whether he ever made good on his transactions from several of a you here..
What ended up happening?
J
I have a header that won't seal. he has returned no messages and won't answer the phone for me. I think I was as big a supporter as he had here, I'll try calling again but don't expect an answer
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Cloud that sux especially seeing how you went out on a limb to try him out :(
Fuck faces like that give us upstanding dudes in the cycle industry a bad name.
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Update::::
I met Andrew from FAST this week at the PRI show in Orlando Florida.
Seemed like a nice guy however he admitted he made mistakes in the past however I am not up to date on whether he ever made good on his transactions from several of a you here..
What ended up happening?
J
Did you meet Bubba the Love Sponge? He had his 1/4 midget and sprint car there...
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Update::::
I met Andrew from FAST this week at the PRI show in Orlando Florida.
Seemed like a nice guy however he admitted he made mistakes in the past however I am not up to date on whether he ever made good on his transactions from several of a you here..
What ended up happening?
J
Did you meet Bubba the Love Sponge? He had his 1/4 midget and sprint car there...
No BTLS for me, I ran in to several people I know in the business and even a few current site supporters... :thumb:
Sorry to hear Andrew did not "come clean"
J
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Not that I'm aware of
Him being alive is a miracle imo after all that we read he screwed between this and a few other boards
Greg there is a lot of truth in what you say, I geuss he has not done anybody that was determined enough.......yet
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this thread is still going after 2 years. cant imagine how many more people got ripped off by this tool :grn:
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Update::::
I met Andrew from FAST this week at the PRI show in Orlando Florida.
Seemed like a nice guy however he admitted he made mistakes in the past however I am not up to date on whether he ever made good on his transactions from several of a you here..
What ended up happening?
J
I have a header that won't seal. he has returned no messages and won't answer the phone for me. I think I was as big a supporter as he had here, I'll try calling again but don't expect an answer
Tried to warn you... sorry it didn't work out for you.
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I also have been ripped off by this guy.
He has my money and I didn't get anything from him.
I'm from Europe I've deal with a lot of guys in the US and everything went great till I got involved with this looser Andrew Pearce!
That's right now I’m very cautious about dealing with people abroad all because of him.
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Update::::
I met Andrew from FAST this week at the PRI show in Orlando Florida.
Seemed like a nice guy however he admitted he made mistakes in the past however I am not up to date on whether he ever made good on his transactions from several of a you here..
What ended up happening?
J
I have a header that won't seal. he has returned no messages and won't answer the phone for me. I think I was as big a supporter as he had here, I'll try calling again but don't expect an answer
Tried to warn you... sorry it didn't work out for you.
as i read thru this post from the beginning when i got to the part that blackcloud said he was gonna buy from this clown i thought to myself i can't believe you are going to gamble your $$ away. i mean how much bad info do you need to read before you realize maybe its not a good idea to give him a chance. but even after all that i am sorry cloud didn't get a decent kit. i also give him credit for admitting he got shafted by fast. hopefully no one else will be taken in by his bogus sales pitch.
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I only live a couple hr's away, my bike and I sat at his shop while he did a custom fit to my bike. the price was great, the workmanship is great, all brand name parts. quality is every bit as good as Velocity. he just sucks as a business man, and you buy with no warranty. the problem my unit has is the aluminum header flange won't stay tight. (same as velocity) RCC will never have this problem, Richard doesn't use aluminum. If he was building them for another company where he did the work and they handled the business. could be a great combo.
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I only live a couple hr's away, my bike and I sat at his shop while he did a custom fit to my bike. the price was great, the workmanship is great, all brand name parts. quality is every bit as good as Velocity. he just sucks as a business man, and you buy with no warranty. the problem my unit has is the aluminum header flange won't stay tight. (same as velocity) RCC will never have this problem, Richard doesn't use aluminum. If he was building them for another company where he did the work and they handled the business. could be a great combo.
Cloud, I'm sorry your deal has soured, and I hate to do this, because after my deal with Velocity, I was sorry I did not wait and get with Richard, but to be fair I have had no header trouble, and my flange is steel, kits ben on the bike going on 3 years, after the motor job, and i may have had to tighten my flange bolts twice
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I only live a couple hr's away, my bike and I sat at his shop while he did a custom fit to my bike. the price was great, the workmanship is great, all brand name parts. quality is every bit as good as Velocity. he just sucks as a business man, and you buy with no warranty. the problem my unit has is the aluminum header flange won't stay tight. (same as velocity) RCC will never have this problem, Richard doesn't use aluminum. If he was building them for another company where he did the work and they handled the business. could be a great combo.
Cloud, I'm sorry your deal has soured, and I hate to do this, because after my deal with Velocity, I was sorry I did not wait and get with Richard, but to be fair I have had no header trouble, and my flange is steel, kits ben on the bike going on 3 years, after the motor job, and i may have had to tighten my flange bolts twice
yous is a stage 2 kit isn't it? When I called Velocity to get a price on a new header they said they use aluminum on their stage 1.
my problems are minor. If it gets to be spring and still no reply from him, I have a AB-P 330 miller tig welder that needs to earn its keep. will pull the aluminum off and put in a lazer cut stainless on, if that doesn't work out I'll have RCC make one. The total price payed for the turbo still wouldnt be to bad
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I only live a couple hr's away, my bike and I sat at his shop while he did a custom fit to my bike. the price was great, the workmanship is great, all brand name parts. quality is every bit as good as Velocity. he just sucks as a business man, and you buy with no warranty. the problem my unit has is the aluminum header flange won't stay tight. (same as velocity) RCC will never have this problem, Richard doesn't use aluminum. If he was building them for another company where he did the work and they handled the business. could be a great combo.
Cloud, I'm sorry your deal has soured, and I hate to do this, because after my deal with Velocity, I was sorry I did not wait and get with Richard, but to be fair I have had no header trouble, and my flange is steel, kits ben on the bike going on 3 years, after the motor job, and i may have had to tighten my flange bolts twice
yous is a stage 2 kit isn't it? When I called Velocity to get a price on a new header they said they use aluminum on their stage 1.
my problems are minor. If it gets to be spring and still no reply from him, I have a AB-P 330 miller tig welder that needs to earn its keep. will pull the aluminum off and put in a lazer cut stainless on, if that doesn't work out I'll have RCC make one. The total price payed for the turbo still wouldnt be to bad
No its a stage one, but that may change when Richard get his bolt on secondary system worked out, and it is a steel header, just went and checked it a magnet stuck, I have seen your problem before we put stainless washers on the studs seemed to stay tight