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MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE / Re: STANDING 0.5 MILE, OVER 200 LIST
« Last post by Got-Busa? on September 22, 2017, 07:44:22 PM »
Sorry it took me so long to update guys.  New job and don't get much time on here anymore...  :shotdrinker7wy:
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MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE / Re: How many records can I set with one run down the track ?
« Last post by knecum on September 22, 2017, 07:26:07 PM »
 
NHRA requires within 1% of the record run on another run at the same event.

Not anymore, its a record as soon as you set it, no more 1% rule
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MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE / Re: How many records can I set with one run down the track ?
« Last post by SEJ on September 22, 2017, 01:44:11 PM »
Thanks for stopping by, Ransom.

Yes, there is some desire to move to a format
used by the Bonneville racing groups, or by
other pavement racing groups - like drag
 racing - that require a 2nd run.

In drag racing, the 1st run is the record,
while the 2nd run is a "backup run"
(done within a certain % of the records run)
 to "prove the 1st run."

At Bonneville, the two runs are
 averaged together to be the record speed.

I wonder how this would work on on pavement ?.........



The more I think about...while I wasn't really referring to running in the opposite direction, I would think the spirit of the second run could be running within 90% of the speed obtained in the first run.  The record would then be the fastest pass of the 2 runs, but both runs must be within 90% of each other.

AND ...................if you blew the motor on the 1st run ?


And Scott throws the BIG wrench into the discussion.

NHRA requires within 1% of the record run on another run at the same event.
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MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE / Re: How many records can I set with one run down the track ?
« Last post by scott g on September 22, 2017, 12:17:23 PM »
Thanks for stopping by, Ransom.

Yes, there is some desire to move to a format
used by the Bonneville racing groups, or by
other pavement racing groups - like drag
 racing - that require a 2nd run.

In drag racing, the 1st run is the record,
while the 2nd run is a "backup run"
(done within a certain % of the records run)
 to "prove the 1st run."

At Bonneville, the two runs are
 averaged together to be the record speed.

I wonder how this would work on on pavement ?.........



The more I think about...while I wasn't really referring to running in the opposite direction, I would think the spirit of the second run could be running within 90% of the speed obtained in the first run.  The record would then be the fastest pass of the 2 runs, but both runs must be within 90% of each other.

AND ...................if you blew the motor on the 1st run ?
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MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE / Re: How many records can I set with one run down the track ?
« Last post by RansomT on September 22, 2017, 11:54:21 AM »
Thanks for stopping by, Ransom.

Yes, there is some desire to move to a format
used by the Bonneville racing groups, or by
other pavement racing groups - like drag
 racing - that require a 2nd run.

In drag racing, the 1st run is the record,
while the 2nd run is a "backup run"
(done within a certain % of the records run)
 to "prove the 1st run."

At Bonneville, the two runs are
 averaged together to be the record speed.

I wonder how this would work on on pavement ?.........



The more I think about...while I wasn't really referring to running in the opposite direction, I would think the spirit of the second run could be running within 90% of the speed obtained in the first run.  The record would then be the fastest pass of the 2 runs, but both runs must be within 90% of each other.

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MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE / Re: What colors should I paint my new race bike ?
« Last post by scott g on September 22, 2017, 11:40:01 AM »
Some of these railroad liveries are pretty modern

https://www.google.com/search?biw=1120&bih=597&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=livery+railroad&oq=livery+railroad&gs_l=psy-ab.3...288518.290742.0.291621.9.9.0.0.0.0.130.667.8j1.9.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.5.440...0j0i67k1j0i8i30k1.0.pLbtgYV-Noo

And the practice continues with subway trains:

https://www.google.com/search?biw=1120&bih=597&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=livery+subway&oq=livery+subway&gs_l=psy-ab.3...62372.64178.0.64977.6.6.0.0.0.0.124.599.3j3.6.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.3.307...0j0i8i30k1.0.OOc4Dcmqm-Q

Can we forget NASCAR ?

https://www.google.com/search?biw=1120&bih=597&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=livery+nascar&oq=livery+nascar&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i8i30k1.150321.151657.0.152873.6.6.0.0.0.0.100.488.5j1.6.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.6.485...0j0i5i30k1j0i24k1.0.F7HnCQBp-tU

(Admittedly, looking at Nascar cars turning left may be like walking
down the detergent isle at the grocery store, but can you NOT like the M&M car ?

https://www.google.com/search?biw=1120&bih=597&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=livery+nascar&oq=livery+nascar&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i8i30k1.150321.151657.0.152873.6.6.0.0.0.0.100.488.5j1.6.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.6.485...0j0i5i30k1j0i24k1.0.F7HnCQBp-tU

The GULF fuel racing design is IMMEDIATELY recognizable (That's the whole ppoint)
and in it's basic design has only three colors, powder blue, orange, and a black srtripe.

https://www.google.com/search?biw=1120&bih=597&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=gulf+racing+livery&oq=livery+gulf&gs_l=psy-ab.1.1.0i8i30k1l4.182585.183924.0.187753.4.4.0.0.0.0.120.431.0j4.4.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.4.428...0.0.UiHJJfGxw1E
(Notice the DUCATI in Gulf livery .....)



(Notice the DUCATI in Gulf livery .....)

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MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE / Re: How many records can I set with one run down the track ?
« Last post by Nosgsx1300 on September 22, 2017, 11:29:53 AM »
aren't we accepting the "risk and expense" anyways

I could not think of someone landspeed racing, making a pass, setting a record and saying

Boy that scared me forget it, I am not going to back it up

Most make a run, and record or not instantly want to make another pass
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MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE / What colors should I paint my new race bike ?
« Last post by scott g on September 22, 2017, 11:28:44 AM »
What colors should I paint my new race bike ?

That is certainly a question most of us have faced,
and the answers are sometimes a problem.

1)  Do my sponsor's logos want a similar or contrasting color.

2)  Do I use colors identifiable with the brand ? - like Kawasaki Green


A few years ago, I visited this museum in England,
and was pleasantly surprised by the variety of shapes,
colors, and color combinations on display !

http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection

The Duchess of Hamilton was kind of simple
with only three colors, but look at the aerodynamic shape !

https://www.google.com/search?q=duchess+of+hamilton+locomotive&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjIl47LmbnWAhVDTSYKHdLnDSAQ_AUIDCgD&biw=1120&bih=597

The British may not have invented the concept of LIVERY
(Special outfits, like uniforms) but they raised to to high art.

https://www.google.com/search?q=livery&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiH3bSRmrnWAhVFQiYKHU2OCHEQ_AUIDCgD&biw=1120&bih=597

With these railroad engines and cars, they might use
as many as seven(7) colors, in several combinations.

Then, as now, you could tell who was who, as they went speeding by.

Railroad or MotoGP



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MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE / Re: How many records can I set with one run down the track ?
« Last post by scott g on September 22, 2017, 11:05:21 AM »
works for me, as long as we are not expected to run both directions

Running the opposite direction would be pretty scary at many tracks.

(My impression is that the "2 directions" thing is a hold over from 100 years ago,
 and may not be needed anymore, especially if we use
dry lake beds (Bonneville) and airfields [Loring] for what we do.)

I remember that the Steam Train (REALLY !) record was set in England
by a big locomotive in a 1-mile section of track,
PRECEDED by an 11% downgrade of maybe 5 miles.

(http://mikes.railhistory.railfan.net/r070.html
scroll to the last bit,
also  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNER_Class_A4_4468_Mallard)

Maybe that's part of the "both directions" thing,
and certainly the FIM still demands it for most records.

I wonder if we could use the 2nd run to set "another record"
as long as we are accepting the risks and expenses of a back-up run?
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NITROUS / Re: 20 volt fuel pump boost?
« Last post by fj1289 on September 22, 2017, 10:41:15 AM »
Thanks Ransom.  More I thought about it, more I realized I would run a chance of fuel pump dropping pressure if the battery got weak - it wouldn't default to 12 volts or anything.  Better to have something that can be setup and left alone rather than adding something else to attend to between runs!

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