2008 Busa

[Noumenon]

...hence the confusion.

[Bonedust]

fos,.. then if no pics, how about details?

Bonedust 2, Jeffw 0

As posted before, but I guess some can't read:

"Around" 1330 or so.....
Same frame
Ti valves (like the 1k)
Cyl case vents (between cyls like the 1k)
Dual injectors (like the 1k)
3-way map switch (like the 1k)
Ugly ass, big dual exhausts (like the 1k)
New body

Any focus on weight reduction Jeff?

Rick

not if it has a big ass ugly exhaust!!!

[Busa@11K]

theres ppl who will bet $$$$$$$ on that 1330 idea.  im one of em

+1 1330cc   

Now Twisted can call the new Busa a "13.3" and the ZX-14 a "13.5". 

[Busa@11K]

Cyl case vents (between cyls like the 1k)

What's that about? 

Hopfully it doesn't have the cylinders integrated into the top half of the engine cases.

[jeffw]

Cyl case vents (between cyls like the 1k)

What's that about? 

Hopfully it doesn't have the cylinders integrated into the top half of the engine cases.

Same as the 1k has.... just a blit larger.

"New larger 48mm ventilation holes between cylinders reduce pumping losses and the crankcase breather system now features a reed valve to prevent pressure waves in the airbox from reaching the crankcase"

[trbobusa]

any word on the new color schemes yet?

[Busa@11K]

Cyl case vents (between cyls like the 1k)

What's that about? 

Hopfully it doesn't have the cylinders integrated into the top half of the engine cases.

Same as the 1k has.... just a blit larger.

I think Suzuki is making a mistake on integrating the cylinders in to the top case half.  Modifying the top end is gonna be a bitch on that design. 

[Pinky]

been told the dealer show is june 22-23

[Pinky]

they will ruin the bike if its integrated and more will by the older busas

i heard its going to be integrated too
i think ill keep mine too

[1300hemibusa]

Cyl case vents (between cyls like the 1k)

What's that about? 

Hopfully it doesn't have the cylinders integrated into the top half of the engine cases.

Same as the 1k has.... just a blit larger.

I think Suzuki is making a mistake on integrating the cylinders in to the top case half.  Modifying the top end is gonna be a bitch on that design. 

Busa@11K   i don't know if i would call it a mistake...Intergrating the block and cylinders make for a stronger motor and able to make more hp in the same package ...It cost the same money  to bore and replate ..True shipping to the replater maybe a bit more and the labor to split the cases also ... But a trade off for a  lighter and stronger motor does not sound to bad ..

[1300hemibusa]

they will ruin the bike if its integrated and more will by the older busas

i heard its going to be integrated too
i think ill keep mine too

It Didn't stop anyone from buying liter bikes and well not stop them from buying Busas ...

[jeffw]

been told the dealer show is june 22-23

Nope, it's June 27-29 ...... I'll be there at the Mirage looking to see if I need to buy a new Busa or not.

[For Rent]

Will the value of current busa's go up or down?

[stangme01]

down silly 

[Busa@11K]

Cyl case vents (between cyls like the 1k)

What's that about? 

Hopfully it doesn't have the cylinders integrated into the top half of the engine cases.

Same as the 1k has.... just a blit larger.

I think Suzuki is making a mistake on integrating the cylinders in to the top case half.  Modifying the top end is gonna be a bitch on that design. 

Busa@11K   i don't know if i would call it a mistake...Intergrating the block and cylinders make for a stronger motor and able to make more hp in the same package ...It cost the same money  to bore and replate ..True shipping to the replater maybe a bit more and the labor to split the cases also ... But a trade off for a  lighter and stronger motor does not sound to bad ..

So you think removing the motor from the frame and splitting the cases (ie, a TOTAL motor disassembly) to be able to send in the cylinders for a re-bore is going to cost the same as just removing the top end while the engine is still in the frame.  Think about it.

Sure, not everyone does cylinder mods, but the guys who want more displacement are going to be pissed off if the cylinders are integrated in to the top case half.

[1300hemibusa]

Cyl case vents (between cyls like the 1k)

What's that about? 

Hopfully it doesn't have the cylinders integrated into the top half of the engine cases.

Same as the 1k has.... just a blit larger.

I think Suzuki is making a mistake on integrating the cylinders in to the top case half.  Modifying the top end is gonna be a bitch on that design. 

Busa@11K   i don't know if i would call it a mistake...Intergrating the block and cylinders make for a stronger motor and able to make more hp in the same package ...It cost the same money  to bore and replate ..True shipping to the replater maybe a bit more and the labor to split the cases also ... But a trade off for a  lighter and stronger motor does not sound to bad ..

So you think removing the motor from the frame and splitting the cases (ie, a TOTAL motor disassembly) to be able to send in the cylinders for a re-bore is going to cost the same as just removing the top end while the engine is still in the frame.  Think about it.

Sure, not everyone does cylinder mods, but the guys who want more displacement are going to be pissed off if the cylinders are integrated in to the top case half.

Well seening i do all my own motor work i would rather pull the motor and put it on my work bench..I got a wrecked 06 zx14  and pulled the motor in 30 mins ...It maybe harder for some  but i have been doing motorcycle work for 34 years and fine it much easier to pull the motor...If you are building a stroker Busa you have to split the cases anyway ...I just don't see the big deal, for me anyway...

[Busa@11K]

I agree if you have to split the cases anyway for crank/rod work then it's not much different.  But if someone wanted to put a "big bore kit" on their Busa with top engine case integrated cylinders, then obviously it's not just a matter of removing the top end with the engine still in the frame and swapping out the cylinder and pistons.

Also, the days of using a cylinder spacer for turbo kits to lower the compression will be over ... instead, they will have to split the cases to install new lower compression pistons in order to run any significant boost pressure.

[SPEED KING]

I agree if you have to split the cases anyway for crank/rod work then it's not much different.  But if someone wanted to put a "big bore kit" on their Busa with top engine case integrated cylinders, then obviously it's not just a matter of removing the top end with the engine still in the frame and swapping out the cylinder and pistons.

Also, the days of using a cylinder spacer for turbo kits to lower the compression will be over ... instead, they will have to split the cases to install new lower compression pistons in order to run any significant boost pressure.

Or they will continue to have Custom Carrillo rods made and shortened about .060"-.080"  and then make the pistons that much taller so you can move the ring stack down and make the piston a lot stronger for the cylinder pressure of wither a Nitrous or Turbo set up.

J

[KSpecII]

how this looks?

[gsteve1]

Damn.... thats gotta be the best one yet... and I like it  .   Now if it has great brakes , better susp , weighs 50 lbs less than the current busa and has over 180 rwhp.   Ill own one.

[Shamrock]

wtf ABS on the front fender?

[gsteve1]

  Ok.... learn me.  If the abs system was top quality , no surging , no racket why would abs be bad for normal rider.  I have been in a porshe turbo that has fantastic abs and wouldnt want a car without em.  The standard GM abs i have on my truck is shit and would be even worse on a bike.  But I think a hi end setup would work great.

[TrickTom1]

I think most people think of the "crappy" abs and know it would get you hurt on a bike. Knowing the japs though, if it does have some type of abs it will be better than the gm stuff.

[Big Blue]

Jeff W,
Can you confirm if this is a real pic or not?  Thanks

[BLACK051K]

Rear Seat cowl has cooling vents as to suggest under seat/tail exhaust (B-king...?)
So, what's up with the 07 1k dual exhaust look....? Probably chopped.