now that depends.... if they have been working on it for while and ready to go or already in production, then maybe Oct, nov or so. but normally brand new bikes from ground up normally come out in march. depends.. bought new gsxr back in 92 and it was due mid march and i think it finally came in end of april. but there are better nowadays getting stuff closer to on time. but we should have more info at dealer show. they will give us an idea on release dates. i wouldnt think they will be available b4 end of this year... i dont think we will see them on floors until Feb or March or 08... but i could be wrong.. but should know soon enuff