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Offline FearsomeKawasaki

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2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« on: October 14, 2007, 04:33:02 PM »
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2007, 04:43:07 PM »
Looks like every time it was in a straight it would just walk it down..................

So be a good little bitch and Shut the Fuck Up already
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2007, 04:53:01 PM »
There is ONE undeniable truth.

That "old" 14 destroyed the Busa through the gears.

At the top end the Busa's speedo doesn't move so it's hit it's limiter. It nearly catches the 14 up so all it means is the 14s limiter kicked in a fraction earlier. Our JD events have shown the 14s limiter is very accurate whewreas Suzi's version isn't so no surprise there.

The new 14 will ensure the 14 REMAINS  the Daddy.

Suzuki have taken you loyal Suzi owners for granted with this bike. A huge disappointment.
« Last Edit: October 14, 2007, 05:10:01 PM by FearsomeKawasaki »
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2007, 05:07:44 PM »
you're kidding, right!
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2007, 05:17:53 PM »
No.

Watch the video.

You'll like it. It's the first time I have ever seen a Busa hit it's limiter. Seriously.
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2007, 06:01:07 PM »
Geez, this FK guy has been harping on shit like this since 2000, get a life will ya?

If ya like Kawasaki, its all good, just buy one and shut the fuck up already.
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2007, 06:05:41 PM »
I dont know what video you watched but besides the first run the busa ran that 14 down everytime so maybe you should watch it again and see how fast it was closing on the 14 dude.
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2007, 06:08:56 PM »
That video tells us nothing about the Busa or 14, My 06 14 would walk a 99 to 07 Busa set-up the same way. But I expect that to be different with the 08 Busa that's why i have one coming
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2007, 06:11:16 PM »
Please be intelligent.

The Busa on the top end hit it's limiter. The 14 suddenly looks like it's going backwards. It hit it's limiter first. The 14 has more ram air hp so any hp advantage on the Busa's part would have been obvious BEFORE then.

But through the gears you have to give the nod to the OLD 14. It just fucked off, time and time again.

Which is good, as it keeps the 12R and ZZR14 tradition going at leaving Busas for dead.
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2007, 06:41:35 PM »
If you really want to start getting into things What are the riders weight/ how long they been riding and so forth  :?
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2007, 06:44:53 PM »
That was a new upgraded 08 kaw either....it held its own
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2007, 06:52:02 PM »
Since 2000, FK has been spewing shit.  He enjoys coming here and ruffling feathers, and he is usually successful.   :lol:

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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2007, 07:04:58 PM »
He ran that fucking piece of shit Kawasucki down with ease(who is this "Fearsome Fuckwad" anyway?Annoying little bitch isn't she,probably doesn't even own a bike.If you were here i'd have you polishing my aluminum).
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2007, 07:19:37 PM »
Just wait for the comparson the mags put out,the busa rider looks like he's going through and comming off the corners pretty lazy,you cant' see what rpm the 14 is at but the busa is around 5k,if I wanted to run someone down I wouldn't be comming off the corners at that rpm.It looks like on the last straight he reeled in the 14 pretty hard and it definitely was not because the rev limiter,I guess we'll find out when we read the article,but to say the 14 has better ram air is ridicules FK,both bikes make big power up top and theres no way to tell which is making more power.
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2007, 07:30:34 PM »
Again, This video tells us nothing. And the 08 was definately NOT being pushed. Like gip said, he was really letting off, and not even extreme braking after fast straights. Just kinda coasting. I don't think the original video was meant for a heads up test. The one pictured here was mostlikely put together for you tube.  :?
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2007, 07:33:04 PM »
And as far as starting shit.... Its SUZUKIHAYABUSA.ORG you DUMBASS!!! Expect to get flamed if you rip on em. I don't mind the 14's either. But I don't go to "slowass14's.com" and say shit about em.
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2007, 07:39:44 PM »
It’s obvious that the guys mom was riding the hayabusa.

Comparing one super fast machine against another super fast machine requires rigorous thought out testing. I seen the Busa pull the 14 and vise versa in that vid. Did they swap machines? Did they delimit to properly check top end speed? Did they do multiple acceleration runs, swapping riders? We will find out when the mag comes out.
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2007, 07:54:23 PM »
 those were very odd lines the 14 was taking.  Maybe his first day on a road course
 As far as who won ..  It didnt look like any kind of race on either bikes part.
The busa sure gets to the top fast!
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2007, 08:06:05 PM »
Jamie must be using his good bait.  Hook, line, sinker.   :lol:
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2007, 08:28:38 PM »
Oh for gods sakes people it as obvious as it can be, the 14 rider rolled off the gas EARLIER than the busa going into all the corners (including the long straight) because he was an EARLY BRAKER...the busa rider charged into the corners harder and deeper, and braked MUCH later (including the long straight) because he was a LATE BRAKER. Watch the busa's tach and count the gears...he was in 6th tapped out as was the 14 way before the corner and they were equal. Don't any of you guys do any canyon carving or roadracing of your own? The 14 was rolling off the gas and braking earlier with a wider line to keep up more corner speed. The busa rider was charging hard into the corner and braking late with a tight slower line, and accelerating as hard as he could off the corner without breaking traction ...its called point and shoot (duh). I can't believe some of you guys are serious here. Accept what you see..the bikes are very equal and are prolly gonna be that way for a long time to come. Enjoy them for what they are...2 kick ass bikes  :wink: :thumb:
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2007, 08:32:59 PM »
I watched the video,looked like the dude on the 14 was a better rider! :lol:
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2007, 08:34:33 PM »
Quote from: The Big Red One on October 14, 2007, 08:28:38 PM
Oh for gods sakes people it as obvious as it can be, the 14 rider rolled off the gas EARLIER than the busa going into all the corners (including the long straight) because he was an EARLY BRAKER...the busa rider charged into the corners harder and deeper, and braked MUCH later (including the long straight) because he was a LATE BRAKER. Watch the busa's tach and count the gears...he was in 6th tapped out as was the 14 way before the corner and they were equal. Don't any of you guys do any canyon carving or roadracing of your own? The 14 was rolling off the gas and braking earlier with a wider line to keep up more corner speed. The busa rider was charging hard into the corner and braking late with a tight slower line and accelerating hard off the corner...its called point and shoot (duh). I can't believe some of you guys are serious here. Accept what you see..the bikes are very equal and are prolly gonna be that way for a long time to come. if your delicate ego rests soley on a bike, then you've got some pretty empty lives......or else your hanging around the wrong kind of people  :?

100% agree.

Through the gears, the old 14 had the edge though, which is a surprise, particularly as the new one is due out with yet more power.
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2007, 09:37:33 PM »
The Hayabusa was in B mode.
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2007, 01:27:37 AM »
1st run before they hit the thrust the 14 was ahead in camera view. Banging through the gears it looks like the busa catches it a bit but the 14 inches back up and just stays there. Later runs it seems the busa is reeling it in but anyones guess on the 14's limiter kicking in first or whatever. Either way it's a horse race.

The real question is going to be after the de-neutering is done. Bypass the limiter, proper exhaust and map for both and flies out of the 14 (busa too if it has them) and see what happens then. Still it'll always be all rider.
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Re: 2008 BUSA, cant match the old 14. Video.
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2007, 02:31:30 AM »
On a sad note it looks like the 14 may be having a issue with it's frame where the rear shock mounts. I'd like to think these are just isolated incidents but these boards only make up a small percentage of the owners base so who knows if more then these 3 people have had issues.

This guy had his frame break near where the rear shock mounts. No insane speeds or anything. Just went over a mild bump and trouble. Go to page 16 to see another rider had the exact same thing happen to his 14 with pics as proof. Both bikes didn't have high milege on them either. http://www.zx14ninja.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=7408&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

This guy was having problems tracing an engine knock and by chance discovered the crack in around the same area the previous 2 had breaks: http://www.zx14ninja.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=8035&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15&sid=41972f1ec126c87a04511ff0d85f3520

I hate seeing anyone have trouble with thier machine like this. I actually like the 14 and i have to admit this has made me pause on looking into one. Maybe it's a manufacturing issue rather then a design problem. The '08 frame is supposed to be lighter using die cast in parts of the frame now. Not sure if that's a good thing or not after seeing pictures like in those threads. Hope to God whatever is wrong gets fixed and nobody gets hurt or worse because of this.
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