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Offline egreen

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« on: January 04, 2008, 09:07:57 AM »
i hope you all can help a busa brother out . i ride 2 up all the time and i am looking for good tires to get please help i only ride like 8000 miles a season thanks

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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2008, 11:32:09 AM »
I have been running dunlop for a while   I am happy with them...
  A lot of the guys around me use shinko, but I think it's mostly becouse they are cheaper

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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2008, 11:54:12 AM »
8,000 miles & you're on the first tire ?

I've been through half a dozen.

You're easy on drive tires.

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Re: Tires
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2008, 05:14:29 PM »
so no help on what to should get. and what is the widest tire i can put on a stock 07

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Re: Tires
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2008, 06:53:37 PM »
Dunlop 208 Sportmax : 200-50-17. I like the 200 because its just what I like. Fits stretched or stock swingarm no rubbing.
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2008, 08:02:15 PM »
If you're getting 8000 miles out of them, just put some cheapies on there.   :thumb:

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Re: Tires
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2008, 08:32:01 AM »
If your getting that mileage stick with what you got. I use Metzler Rennsport 190/50/17 and I have done about 500 miles and got about 300 left on my rear, but they are as sticky as gaffa tape & my bike only get's used for fun...

You can use any size from 180-200, when the Busa first come out it had a 200 section rear tyre, some people like the handleing of a 180 or go higher in profile like a 190/55 but I like what I got.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2008, 08:36:21 AM by busastars »

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Re: Tires
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2008, 04:06:51 PM »
8,000 miles & you're on the first tire ?

I've been through half a dozen.

You're easy on drive tires.

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Brother stay away from dunflop's , shitcos's , bubastone's all of that b/s - if you are an aggressive rider an looking for tire's just for one season grab a set of Michelin Pilot Power 2CT in size's 190/55Zr17 for rear tire size, if you are trying to go more for milage than performance grab a set of Pilot Road 2CT in 190/55Zr17 - i assure you after using these tire's you well never ride on anything else !!!

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Re: Tires
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2008, 06:11:02 PM »
thanks alot i get a new one evry season so what should i get 2up keep in mind please

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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2008, 07:38:36 PM »
well in your case like i said be for depending on how aggressive you are riding , depends on the tire you want , the pilot power is gonna give you about 2500 mile's out of the rear  of really hard aggressive riding but well give you the ultimate level of traction , i have used the 2CT on my race bike on the track be for , and while riding in the rain the traction is still ridiculous i can still wheelie my busa in the rain on that tire , so go figure - the pilot road well give you about double that , if you are not that aggressive of a rider you could easily get 8,000 mile's  out of the pilot road - the fact that you ride 2up  i would actually recommend a stickier tire , an the Michelin pilot line is know for their extreme dry and WET grip!!!

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Re: Tires
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2008, 06:39:51 AM »
If your just more of a ploder/tourer or everyday rider then you wont need a realy sticky set, in the UK alot of people use Avon AV45/46 and are happy, I have had these these and they are ok just not sticky enough for me and did not like the feal of them (but that is just me). If you thrash your bike within an inch of it's life then the 2CT are nice tires but are way overpriced, for half that price I have a set of Metzler Rennsport and love them, they get great reviews by almost everyone and they are very sticky in the dry, a local tuner/racer recumended them to me before and I was glad I took his advice. I dont do wet riding anymore my bike is for fun and sunny days only.

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Re: Tires
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2008, 09:01:12 AM »
Holy crap, I guess I'm a candy-ass with my bike!  I have 11,000 miles on the OEM tires and I'm just now looking to replace them.  :lol:
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2008, 06:22:14 AM »
Holy crap, I guess I'm a candy-ass with my bike!  I have 11,000 miles on the OEM tires and I'm just now looking to replace them.  :lol:

 
Lucky you, I could not get that out of a chrome dresser! I seem to wear the sides out first. I don't know how much you ride but tires get hard with age
and the pucker factor goes through the roof when the front slips, when it does all I think is high side, high side, high side.

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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2008, 10:44:22 AM »
I have Metzeler M3's now and I love them.  Last tire  I had was the Michelin Pilot Powers and they were a good tire but the M3's are a much better tire IMHO.

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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2008, 11:05:14 AM »
I have Metzeler M3's now and I love them.  Last tire  I had was the Michelin Pilot Powers and they were a good tire but the M3's are a much better tire IMHO.

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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2008, 01:35:54 PM »
the powers were a good tire but the m3's just seem to handle better i think.  the powers turn in was a little too quick for me (tall front tire)  traction was outstanding on the powers as well as the m3's but I just like the overall package of the m3 better.

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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2008, 01:37:13 PM »
i didn't have the 2ct's though.  only standard pilots

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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2008, 10:31:43 PM »
Holy crap, I guess I'm a candy-ass with my bike!  I have 11,000 miles on the OEM tires and I'm just now looking to replace them.  :lol:
oh yea hell yea i get maybe 2500 miles to a set!!  ,3000 if i behave

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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2008, 10:34:41 PM »
the powers were a good tire but the m3's just seem to handle better i think.  the powers turn in was a little too quick for me (tall front tire)  traction was outstanding on the powers as well as the m3's but I just like the overall package of the m3 better.

if you like to ride your busa , like a touring bike then yea , the pilot's arnt gona be good for you - if you like to flick it in an out of turns an throw it around like it's a lil 600 ,then the pilot's are the only way to go!!!

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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2008, 04:46:44 AM »
 Metzelar, Michlen ,Perelli Dunlop Avon , BTs I try them all and havent got a bad one yet as far as keeping traction . Stick with these major brands .They are amazing
I  do shread my tires to the edge .
« Last Edit: January 22, 2008, 03:34:59 PM by zzr12pete »
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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2008, 04:28:13 AM »
Has anyone used Michelin HPX before?If yes please comment on th tyre at high speed,cornering and etc,Thanks

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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2008, 06:33:32 AM »
After all the reading I've done since starting this thread it looks like the tire to have is the Michelin Pilot road 2.

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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2008, 08:31:34 AM »
After all the reading I've done since starting this thread it looks like the tire to have is the Michelin Pilot road 2.

Ok may i know why do you say that?

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« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2008, 12:52:25 PM »
After all the reading I've done since starting this thread it looks like the tire to have is the Michelin Pilot road 2.

Ok may i know why do you say that?

Independent test show that the overall performance (meaning to me good grip and high mileage)of the tire out does all others. Probably because it is comprised of two different tread compounds.
The center is of a long lasting compound for high mileage and the side being of a softer compound for good cornering.
There are tires that grip better and there are tires that wear longer, however there are no tires that do both.
Except the Pilot Power 2ct in which both compounds are softer.

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« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2008, 09:06:19 PM »
After all the reading I've done since starting this thread it looks like the tire to have is the Michelin Pilot road 2.

Ok may i know why do you say that?

Independent test show that the overall performance (meaning to me good grip and high mileage)of the tire out does all others. Probably because it is comprised of two different tread compounds.
The center is of a long lasting compound for high mileage and the side being of a softer compound for good cornering.
There are tires that grip better and there are tires that wear longer, however there are no tires that do both.
Except the Pilot Power 2ct in which both compounds are softer.


Well said , i second that -  :thumb:

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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2008, 02:02:15 AM »
After all the reading I've done since starting this thread it looks like the tire to have is the Michelin Pilot road 2.

Ok may i know why do you say that?

Independent test show that the overall performance (meaning to me good grip and high mileage)of the tire out does all others. Probably because it is comprised of two different tread compounds.
The center is of a long lasting compound for high mileage and the side being of a softer compound for good cornering.
There are tires that grip better and there are tires that wear longer, however there are no tires that do both.
Except the Pilot Power 2ct in which both compounds are softer.

Hmmm ok.Is it a high speed touring tyre?Is it stable during high speed for our busa

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« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2008, 04:39:39 PM »
 Im sure PR2 is a great tire but price is not in line with other great tires .There is lots to choose from .
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« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2008, 08:37:22 PM »
Im sure PR2 is a great tire but price is not in line with other great tires .There is lots to choose from .

tire's are like helmet's dont go cheap , you get what you pay for!!! ONLY THE BEST!!!!

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« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2008, 09:12:11 PM »
Im sure PR2 is a great tire but price is not in line with other great tires .There is lots to choose from .

tire's are like helmet's dont go cheap , you get what you pay for!!! ONLY THE BEST!!!!

bad analogy... My  expensive ,so called top of line arai  Q2 hemet is a  piece of shit ,( visor system falls apart at the worst times)on the other hand my not quite so expensive   trouble free  Shoei rf1000 is  top notch .
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« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2008, 12:08:56 AM »
Im sure PR2 is a great tire but price is not in line with other great tires .There is lots to choose from .

tire's are like helmet's dont go cheap , you get what you pay for!!! ONLY THE BEST!!!!

bad analogy... My  expensive ,so called top of line arai  Q2 hemet is a  piece of shit ,( visor system falls apart at the worst times)on the other hand my not quite so expensive   trouble free  Shoei rf1000 is  top notch .


k first of all your fact's are off, the Arai "quantum 2" is not "top of the line!!" It's equivalant if not less than the Shoei RF 1000. And just cause your visor screen is falling apart that means you just got a bad helemt. If you were smart then you would have known better and  USE YOUR waranty on your "top of the line" hemet and get a new one.  From Arai the RX7 is top of the line. And like I said in my previous statment any real serious rider will know when it comes to helmet and tires you don't go cheap you get what you pay for. `

You dont put a price on your head an you dont put a price on your saftey!!!

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« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2008, 04:38:40 AM »
i dont know why im arguing with you ira ,you seem like maybe new to bikes and i dont usually bother.
 Yes Arai will fix gladly fix your helmet,but what  good is that if your days away from home and missing parts.
Enough about helmets.
Only point Im making here is ,ALL the top brands are good ,99% of street riders will never get close to finding limits of traction on even sport -touring tires .
They are SO  good they could be used on a road course  by fast,skilled rider .
Go ahead buy the most expensive tire if you think "expensive" gives you an edge.  BTW IVe used a few pair of PR1s and WOULD  recomend . Like I said they are all good ,dont beleive all the hype  like there is some kind of magic tire now all the sudden.
 More expensive  does not always = better.
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« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2008, 02:12:31 PM »
Im sure PR2 is a great tire but price is not in line with other great tires .There is lots to choose from .

tire's are like helmet's dont go cheap , you get what you pay for!!! ONLY THE BEST!!!!

bad analogy... My  expensive ,so called top of line arai  Q2 hemet is a  piece of shit ,( visor system falls apart at the worst times)on the other hand my not quite so expensive   trouble free  Shoei rf1000 is  top notch .
Yup totally agree,tried out my new and first Shoei RF-1000. :thumb:The disadvantage is that only the cheeks are able to dismantle and wash.Not the whole helmet inners.

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« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2008, 02:15:48 PM »
Im sure PR2 is a great tire but price is not in line with other great tires .There is lots to choose from .

tire's are like helmet's dont go cheap , you get what you pay for!!! ONLY THE BEST!!!!

bad analogy... My  expensive ,so called top of line arai  Q2 hemet is a  piece of shit ,( visor system falls apart at the worst times)on the other hand my not quite so expensive   trouble free  Shoei rf1000 is  top notch .


k first of all your fact's are off, the Arai "quantum 2" is not "top of the line!!" It's equivalant if not less than the Shoei RF 1000. And just cause your visor screen is falling apart that means you just got a bad helemt. If you were smart then you would have known better and  USE YOUR waranty on your "top of the line" hemet and get a new one.  From Arai the RX7 is top of the line. And like I said in my previous statment any real serious rider will know when it comes to helmet and tires you don't go cheap you get what you pay for. `

You dont put a price on your head an you dont put a price on your saftey!!!
Totally agree,theres this chinese idiom that goes like this.You pay 1 cent you get 1 cent type,quality and etc.Type of everything.You dont pay peanuts to get monkeys.

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« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2008, 02:27:47 PM »
i dont know why im arguing with you ira ,you seem like maybe new to bikes and i dont usually bother.
 Yes Arai will fix gladly fix your helmet,but what  good is that if your days away from home and missing parts.
Enough about helmets.
Only point Im making here is ,ALL the top brands are good ,99% of street riders will never get close to finding limits of traction on even sport -touring tires .
They are SO  good they could be used on a road course  by fast,skilled rider .
Go ahead buy the most expensive tire if you think "expensive" gives you an edge.  BTW IVe used a few pair of PR1s and WOULD  recomend . Like I said they are all good ,dont beleive all the hype  like there is some kind of magic tire now all the sudden.
 More expensive  does not always = better.
hmmm you do you your point too on the last phrase.Actually theres no right or wrong the way i look at it.End of the day its up to individual preferences :D

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« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2008, 05:14:31 PM »
well, Arai helmet is worth about 1 cent IMO.  Keep duct tape handy  :lol:
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« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2008, 12:10:05 PM »
Has anyone used Michelin HPX before?If yes please comment on th tyre at high speed,cornering and etc,Thanks

Look here  http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/forum/index.php?topic=126301.0

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« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2008, 06:56:20 AM »
I use the pirrelli diablo strada and am amazed I'm gettin 10k out of moderate riding. No burn outs.

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« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2008, 11:37:32 AM »
Holy crap, I guess I'm a candy-ass with my bike!  I have 11,000 miles on the OEM tires and I'm just now looking to replace them.  :lol:

WHOLLY CRAP 11K!!!
Just comiing up on 3K and the stock rear shitcoz is showing wear indicators!
Had Mich's on my Kat, they were good tire for a light quick bike but I think after I wear out another shitcoz in the rear I'll try a set of Metz M3's since they're reasonable and Zr rated.
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« Reply #38 on: May 27, 2008, 04:02:22 AM »
New Avon Storms

Howdy... copy/crop from my post at BCSportbikes.com
* Bike ridden primarily in Vancouver, BC area, Fraser Valley, Mar-Nov

Maker- Avon
Model- Storm ST
Size- Front-120/70 HB17 73W AV56 $225 Can
Rear- 190/50 HB17 73W AV55 $159 Can
Installed on- 2000 Busa, slightly modded, racetech susp, trees dropped 3/8"
Ridden for 400 kms, short weekend blitz

** Update... another 500k around town and grocery getting and they remain excellent cold and warm...

**Update 08Jun08_Its been written several other places, these tires do make my Busa feel 100lbs lighter...

Rating- 1/Excellent to 5/Terrible- 1 Very happy... so far
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* Replacing set BT 012s (same sizes) rear tire to wear bars. Wanted tires that gave more center tread life and warmed up quicker in cooler weather. Although I found a couple old reports indicating some cupping, the vast majority felt these tires were outstanding. This weekend scoot to Harrison (mountains out the valley) these tires performed flawlessly.
* Shop installer felt tires were sticky as some of hi-perf street-sport tires they install. Owner mentioned he was gonna order set for family member after seeing mine.
* Cool unexpected benefit: Not sure if it's just that their new, but the tire/ride height was significant enough that I felt I'd gone up a tooth on my front sprocket. High torque motor ate this up giving me way longer legs in lower gears... much increase in fun factor! 
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« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2008, 05:37:14 PM »
Holy crap, I guess I'm a candy-ass with my bike!  I have 11,000 miles on the OEM tires and I'm just now looking to replace them.  :lol:
I don't know about being a candy ass but your definatly not very agressive
The older you get do you notice you start chickening out way before the bike does

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« Reply #40 on: June 07, 2008, 07:19:05 AM »
Avon Storm

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« Reply #41 on: June 07, 2008, 02:43:56 PM »
You get what you pay for, another myth, you pay for the Brand name and graphics not really what you think your getting. Fiberglass, Carbon fiber was not effective, or should i say NOT as Safe as  ABS/polycarbonate Shell.

Some one had a link of Tests with all the high priced helmets and the cheapest helmet and the cheapest helmet polycarbonate, was deemed the safest.  :wink:

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« Reply #42 on: June 07, 2008, 03:35:16 PM »
Fiberglass no, but proberly done carbon material is just about as tough as abs, a bit lighter BUT a whole lot more money
The older you get do you notice you start chickening out way before the bike does

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« Reply #43 on: June 07, 2008, 05:57:16 PM »
What does everyone think of the Stock Bridgestone tires???????????

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« Reply #44 on: June 07, 2008, 06:38:59 PM »
What does everyone think of the Stock Bridgestone tires???????????
Did not have a problem with them, rear seemed to wear to fast, don't remember exactly but it was no more than 3K, have pilot power on now has a little over 5K but its about had it
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« Reply #45 on: June 07, 2008, 10:41:16 PM »
What does everyone think of the Stock Bridgestone tires???????????
They didnt give me one problem .Got about 3500 miles .
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