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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2008, 01:55:55 PM »
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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #51 on: January 26, 2008, 02:45:45 PM »
fuck that whole state shit whole

between thier bullshit emissions and bullshit gun laws, id rather live ANYWHERE else in the US...

good for you pal
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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #52 on: January 26, 2008, 07:56:07 PM »
Technically, if Dynojet were inclined, they should be able to beat the fine. After all, an aftermarket tuning device COULD just as easily be used to LEAN the A/F ratio to provide improved fuel economy (as I do on my motorcycles particularly at steady cruise speeds), which could only DECREASE CO1 (Carbon Monoxide) and CO2 (Carbon Dioxide) emissions compared to stock tuning.

Since Dynojet dynos provide A/F ratios, they could come to court with dozens of before (stock emissions) and after (emissions after appropriate Power Commander retuning) dyno runs that PROVE that stock engines are now producing even LESS emissions than production stock via appropriate tuning using their product.

I suppose Dynojet felt it best to simply pay the fine rather than prove their product's worth, which doesn't say very much for Dynojet.

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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #53 on: January 26, 2008, 11:09:16 PM »
fuck that whole state shit whole

between thier bullshit emissions and bullshit gun laws, id rather live ANYWHERE else in the US...

good for you pal

I'm with your pal.  When's the big one coming?
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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #54 on: January 27, 2008, 01:14:08 AM »
Technically, if Dynojet were inclined, they should be able to beat the fine. After all, an aftermarket tuning device COULD just as easily be used to LEAN the A/F ratio to provide improved fuel economy (as I do on my motorcycles particularly at steady cruise speeds), which could only DECREASE CO1 (Carbon Monoxide) and CO2 (Carbon Dioxide) emissions compared to stock tuning.

Since Dynojet dynos provide A/F ratios, they could come to court with dozens of before (stock emissions) and after (emissions after appropriate Power Commander retuning) dyno runs that PROVE that stock engines are now producing even LESS emissions than production stock via appropriate tuning using their product.

I suppose Dynojet felt it best to simply pay the fine rather than prove their product's worth, which doesn't say very much for Dynojet.

Per news article text quoted in Post #6 on page 1 of this thread, it indicates that DynoJet did not stipulate the PC as being for "off road use only", and as such put the responsibility upon themselves and not the vehicle owner who was using the PC to modify the emissions of their Federally controlled machine.

That's why they paid the fine ... because they knew they fooked up.  :cry: :lol:
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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #55 on: January 27, 2008, 07:42:58 AM »
fuck that whole state shit whole

between thier bullshit emissions and bullshit gun laws, id rather live ANYWHERE else in the US...

good for you pal

I'm with your pal.  When's the big one coming?

you mean the earthquake that will finally dump that communist shithole into the ocean? not soon enough...

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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #56 on: January 27, 2008, 08:14:08 AM »
fuck that whole state shit whole

between thier bullshit emissions and bullshit gun laws, id rather live ANYWHERE else in the US...

good for you pal

I'm with your pal.  When's the big one coming?

you mean the earthquake that will finally dump that communist shithole into the ocean? not soon enough...

What paradise do all you boys live in?Must not be on this planet. :lol:
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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #57 on: January 28, 2008, 01:54:53 AM »
jeff dont worry about it. we'd both like to see things from other people's points of view, but we cant get our heads that far up our asses.

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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #58 on: January 28, 2008, 06:42:43 AM »
fuck that whole state shit whole

between thier bullshit emissions and bullshit gun laws, id rather live ANYWHERE else in the US...

good for you pal

I'm with your pal.  When's the big one coming?

you mean the earthquake that will finally dump that communist shithole into the ocean? not soon enough...

What paradise do all you boys live in?Must not be on this planet. :lol:

 Im glad you think where you live is "paradise".
 I live in Mn, and I think I live in "paradise" too. We also have some fucked up conservative laws up here, it seems people that create all these fucking laws have nothing better to do, then wreck what others like to do for fun.
 
 As far as paradise goes, up here we have four distint seasons, and every season has its pleasures. For example, right now we have snow and frozen rivers. I spent my whole weekend riding snowmobile down the river leading a group of 20 somethings on anything from dirtbikes, ATVs and snowmobiles. Picture a 50 foot wide switch back ice covered road, that seems to go on forever, that you can stud up your tires or track and ride like you wish you could ride your Busa, without fear of being arrested.
 
 In the summer we have good roads, and 10,000 plus lakes to play in if you like water!
 
 You can have your earthquake, fire and flood state. You have too many people AND too many fucked up laws, that are 10 times more fucked up then ours.

 Just because people laugh at your state doesn't make you a bad guy, so don't get worked up Jeff.
 
 How about the Church of Scientology? How the hell does an organization like that be allowed to continue to operate?
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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #59 on: January 28, 2008, 07:25:52 AM »
I live in MN as well, and there is no place i'd rather be right now than riding my 150hp MXZ X 800 rev snowmobile. the exhaust on that thing is so loud you can hear me coming from at least 3 miles away. and it gets a whole 6 miles per gallon.  (well thats when i'm the one driving, i did baby it once to see what i could get, and got 11mpg)  California would just love me.

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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #60 on: January 28, 2008, 07:59:42 AM »
fuck that whole state shit whole

between thier bullshit emissions and bullshit gun laws, id rather live ANYWHERE else in the US...

good for you pal

I'm with your pal.  When's the big one coming?

you mean the earthquake that will finally dump that communist shithole into the ocean? not soon enough...

What paradise do all you boys live in?Must not be on this planet. :lol:

 Im glad you think where you live is "paradise".
 I live in Mn, and I think I live in "paradise" too. We also have some fucked up conservative laws up here, it seems people that create all these fucking laws have nothing better to do, then wreck what others like to do for fun.
 
 As far as paradise goes, up here we have four distint seasons, and every season has its pleasures. For example, right now we have snow and frozen rivers. I spent my whole weekend riding snowmobile down the river leading a group of 20 somethings on anything from dirtbikes, ATVs and snowmobiles. Picture a 50 foot wide switch back ice covered road, that seems to go on forever, that you can stud up your tires or track and ride like you wish you could ride your Busa, without fear of being arrested.
 
 In the summer we have good roads, and 10,000 plus lakes to play in if you like water!
 
 You can have your earthquake, fire and flood state. You have too many people AND too many fucked up laws, that are 10 times more fucked up then ours.

 Just because people laugh at your state doesn't make you a bad guy, so don't get worked up Jeff.
 
 How about the Church of Scientology? How the hell does an organization like that be allowed to continue to operate?

I'm not a native of CA bros,only moving here 10 years ago myself.All i ever said was out of the 6 or 7 states (IL[35 years],IN,FL,CO,AZ)i've lived in previously this one happens to be the best as far as shit to do goes(mountains,deserts,lakes,ocean,year 'round riding,etc.),and we have your "seasons" also,they're just spread around the state all at pretty much the same time.The major problem i'm facing are all the damned illegal wetbacks,i'm self employed as a diver and haven't been able to give myself a raise in 4 years with those motherfuckers coming around and lowballing the few of us left.I used to think "fuck CA" myself 'til i moved here,and other than maybe a few laws(which there are always ways around)it's a pretty good place to live.I didn't come on here dumpin' on anyone else's state/home and anyone who knows me knows i'm probably one of the best people you'll ever meet.Think i'll take a break from this board for a while,no need wakin' up pissed off at somebody on the other side of the country. :lol:You boys have a good one. :thumb:
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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #61 on: January 28, 2008, 08:09:59 AM »
jeff dont worry about it. we'd both like to see things from other people's points of view, but we cant get our heads that far up our asses.

A busy week for you coming up,2 motors to pull. :lol:
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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #62 on: January 28, 2008, 08:25:00 AM »
Did you guys know that Dynojet was fined a million dollars?  Relax.  Some people say things tongue in cheek.  Jeez.   8)
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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #63 on: January 28, 2008, 08:47:14 AM »
Did you guys know that Dynojet was fined a million dollars?  Relax.  Some people say things tongue in cheek.  Jeez.   8)

Guess i just need a thicker skin. :lol:

Have a good one. :thumb:
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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #64 on: January 28, 2008, 11:09:49 AM »
I live in MN as well, and there is no place i'd rather be right now than riding my 150hp MXZ X 800 rev snowmobile. the exhaust on that thing is so loud you can hear me coming from at least 3 miles away. and it gets a whole 6 miles per gallon.  (well thats when i'm the one driving, i did baby it once to see what i could get, and got 11mpg)  California would just love me.

 :thumb: :thumb:

 I have a MXZ 700 that I just installed a set of ceramic top silicone pistons, V-force reeds and a can so loud you can probaby hear me too from where you live!!
 Riding sled is so damn much fun that I feel sorry for you folks that can't experience it. Sure warm weather is nice for riding the Busa, but I wouldn't love it near as much if I could ride it all the time. Not being able to ride it, makes you appreciate when you can so much more.

 Off season allows to tear down the bike, and not loose any riding time.  :thumb:
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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #65 on: January 28, 2008, 04:44:53 PM »
I live in MN as well, and there is no place i'd rather be right now than riding my 150hp MXZ X 800 rev snowmobile. the exhaust on that thing is so loud you can hear me coming from at least 3 miles away. and it gets a whole 6 miles per gallon.  (well thats when i'm the one driving, i did baby it once to see what i could get, and got 11mpg)  California would just love me.

 :thumb: :thumb:

 I have a MXZ 700 that I just installed a set of ceramic top silicone pistons, V-force reeds and a can so loud you can probaby hear me too from where you live!!
 Riding sled is so damn much fun that I feel sorry for you folks that can't experience it. Sure warm weather is nice for riding the Busa, but I wouldn't love it near as much if I could ride it all the time. Not being able to ride it, makes you appreciate when you can so much more.

 Off season allows to tear down the bike, and not loose any riding time.  :thumb:

Winter can be a good time,spent 35 years in IL/WI doin' the usual snowmobiling from bar to bar(watch those barbed wire fences),ice fishing,whitetail hunting,shoveling a path from the garage to the street after the plows cleaned up the streets to make a pass through town on the bike,etc.,don't at all have anything against it.Snow here too,can see it on the mountains about 2 hours away while standing in my front yard(in a t-shirt :lol:),some of my friends go up every weekend.Just spent 5 hours in a wetsuit in 52 degree water,5 days a week of that is about all i can take anymore. :thumb:
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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #66 on: January 28, 2008, 04:49:16 PM »
Did you guys know that Dynojet was fined a million dollars?  Relax.  Some people say things tongue in cheek.  Jeez.   8)

That's what i heard,all of us losers living in CA really fuck shit up...makes me want to move out of this shithole state. :lol:
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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #67 on: January 28, 2008, 05:07:42 PM »
Did you guys know that Dynojet was fined a million dollars?  Relax.  Some people say things tongue in cheek.  Jeez.   8)

That's what i heard,all of us losers living in CA really fuck shit up...makes me want to move out of this shithole state. :lol:


me too. i hate california. everyone that live's there is a communist, tree hugging, cult following piece of shit.

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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #68 on: January 28, 2008, 05:49:56 PM »
Now we're talking.  I'm proud of Texas too.   :wink:
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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #69 on: January 28, 2008, 06:20:57 PM »



me too. i hate california. everyone that live's there is a communist, tree hugging, cult following piece of shit.

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Must be why we hit it off so well :lol:
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« Reply #70 on: January 28, 2008, 06:27:03 PM »
Now we're talking.  I'm proud of Texas too.   :wink:

Texas?Sorry to hear that rustman,we can probably make room for you if you want to come on over(by the way,why do they call you rustman?) :lol:
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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #71 on: January 28, 2008, 07:55:29 PM »
fuck that whole state shit whole

between thier bullshit emissions and bullshit gun laws, id rather live ANYWHERE else in the US...

good for you pal

I'm with your pal.  When's the big one coming?

you mean the earthquake that will finally dump that communist shithole into the ocean? not soon enough...

What paradise do all you boys live in?Must not be on this planet. :lol:

 Im glad you think where you live is "paradise".
 I live in Mn, and I think I live in "paradise" too. We also have some fucked up conservative laws up here, it seems people that create all these fucking laws have nothing better to do, then wreck what others like to do for fun.
 
 As far as paradise goes, up here we have four distint seasons, and every season has its pleasures. For example, right now we have snow and frozen rivers. I spent my whole weekend riding snowmobile down the river leading a group of 20 somethings on anything from dirtbikes, ATVs and snowmobiles. Picture a 50 foot wide switch back ice covered road, that seems to go on forever, that you can stud up your tires or track and ride like you wish you could ride your Busa, without fear of being arrested.
 
 In the summer we have good roads, and 10,000 plus lakes to play in if you like water!
 
 You can have your earthquake, fire and flood state. You have too many people AND too many fucked up laws, that are 10 times more fucked up then ours.

 Just because people laugh at your state doesn't make you a bad guy, so don't get worked up Jeff.
 
 How about the Church of Scientology? How the hell does an organization like that be allowed to continue to operate?

As far as "paradise" goes i was comparing CA to states i'd previously lived in,nobody came on here slamming MN.I don't mind a few fires now and then(makes for good evening news)and have yet to experience a good earthquake.Not aware of any fucked up laws that are 10 times worse than yours and the only time we hear Scientology mentioned is when somebody's raggin' on Tom Cruise on the news.We do have a couple million extra wetbacks i'd like to do away with but one man can only do so much(maybe we can send a few bus loads up your way :lol:).But you're right,don't know how i let myself get baited into this defending my own turf nonsense,if everybody's good with where they live then that's all that matters.
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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #72 on: January 28, 2008, 08:00:45 PM »
In other news:

Looks like Yamaha just got slapped with a $2 million settlement from CARB (Cali EPA).

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=31150
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« Reply #73 on: January 28, 2008, 08:33:34 PM »
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Re: Dynojet fined 1 Million dollars
« Reply #74 on: January 28, 2008, 09:03:19 PM »
its always some bullshit with the gov.
They are the quickest to take YOUR hard earned $$ and give it to some illegals that can just come into the country and mooch off of us....
Where else can you go and get free medicare, and just roll up to the hospital and have like 10 kids for free......not pay a dime....
I run multiple businesses, and I get pounded for insurance and workers comp, liability, all that bullshit..
i hire a guy with papers that look legit, he works for about a week than decides he deserve some free $$ from out gov. because they owe it to him. So he will cut his hand, stick his foot under a mower, drop some bricks on his fingers, what ever he can think of to fuck himself out of working.
Go through workers comp, he gets paid becasue he says that he is unable to work any more, because he is crippled or some b/s, He gets paid, for lost wages and permanent injury (My ASS), than you find out hes ILLEGAL!!!
THe gov. dont give a shit, the lawyers are up his ass to sue me personally to try to get more $$ for the illegal....
To make along story short, shit like this happened several times to me.....its fucking b/s. WE ARE THE TAX PAYERS AND WE GET FUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The gov. works for everyone else but us!!!!! How are the elders gonna keep their homes???? What happens to us when we get hurt........They look NOT to pay us, because it fuckin insurance fraud............MY ASS!!!!
Go ahead put Obama on the List for next pres........watch what happens!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry about venting....................