Stage 1 kits can run, but are simply not as tuneable as a Stage II. But he was saying that he heard that Turbo guys work on their bikes more than ride them. You guys can say whatever you want about Stage I kits, but 90% of the turbos I read about that have problems on this board are all Stage I kits. If you get them too work, yeah you got boost. But if riding everyday is important too you, better too goto a Stage II.
OK, how about this. Stay away from ANY KIT that uses an FMU...... As I am not dissing RCC Stage Is, just ANY kit that uses an FMU!!!
Tell me most of the stories of blown turbo motors on here don't revolve around a FMU and I will drop it.
I am on a bunch of boards and hear the same stories from so many sources.
A blown motor is like cancer and a FMU are like cigarettes. If you keep smoking cigarettes, you will eventually get lung cancer. Yes there are a very tiny group of people who smoke and never get cancer and even fewer who never smoked and did get cancer. But people who bring up those people are idiots, as they have no validity on point. THERE IS ALWAYS EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE!!!
Same thing with an FMU, use one long enough and you will have a problem. Yes, I KNOW, there are going to be a few who say they NEVER had a problem. I know people who have smoked for 60 years and still smoke at 79 years old and are fine. But when someone makes that point about smoking, you know they are a retard and a few exceptional cases, don't change the reality of smoking cigarettes.
Nothing against Richards Stage I having a problem, for a Stage I kit, his is best you can get. But it still has a FMU.
Just answer this one question. Of the numerous Production Turbo Automobiles (in the last 15 years), sold to the general public, HOW MANY USED A FMU?!?!?!?!?!
And there is your answer........ If NO large automotive manufacturer would employ the use of one, it's a reliability issue, PERIOD!!!!!!!!
Get a Stage 1 kit and then when you have the $$$ get the secondary injection. That's a good idea, if money is an issue. But spend 5 now or 10 later.....
Next people will start saying Water injection instead of Intercooling is fine........LOL
But one important point I was trying to make and everytime I make it, I always have people jump all over it, regardless of the validity of my statements. This post was about having a Turbo BUSA that is ridden more than worked on. Simply secondary injection or stand alone is the way too go, PERIOD, there is no discussion. If it was reliable, it would be used by factory automobiles. IT'S NOT!!! Why?!?!?!? Because they pose a very serious reliability issue, PERIOD.
Can they be made to work, YES!!!! Are they on a large scale reliable, NO!!!!
And this post was all about a reliable bike, not having a Turbo on a budget.
I have no problem with doing things on a budget. I may differ with what parts can be bought on price, but I have no problem with saving a buck here and there. But when the main issue is reliability, you shouldn't confuse the issue with the fact you can get something to work.
I believe he said he wanted to drag race and have a reliable turbo bike???? Throw an AMS 1000 on a Stage I kit and tell me how it works as it's changing boost levels.......LOL Let's see if a FMU and PC III USB Mapping can handle changing the boost by more than 15 psi.............LOL
Since this post is about a reliable DRAG BIKE, which is a RELIABLE TURBO BIKE.... Why were my points knocked down???
Can you drag a Stage I Turbo??? YES But when drag racing, a REAL RACER knows tunability is KEY. And reliability is even more important. These are simply not two of a Fm's strong points. But it is what he is interested in......
So next time listen to what someone says and not stick up for, just because it's what you choose... As your really doing it because of how my statements made you feel personally and not the validity of what I said.....