Author Topic: Maxton April 2008 (Read 17211 times) Tweet

shiphteeey · « **on:** April 06, 2008, 11:49:41 AM »

Damn! Just heard Charlie (busa200) went 242 or 243 right out the gate!

Everyone is still on their first pass.....

A.

jgennaro · « **Reply #1 on:** April 06, 2008, 12:08:31 PM »

Quote from: shiphteeey on April 06, 2008, 11:49:41 AM

Damn! Just heard Charlie (busa200) went 242 or 243 right out the gate!

Everyone is still on their first pass.....

A.

Go Charlie Go!

rotts4u · « **Reply #2 on:** April 06, 2008, 12:17:54 PM »

Any other news? I wanted to go but the weather kept me away.

TrickTom1 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 06, 2008, 12:22:02 PM »

It's true, Charlie just called, 243mph and weather conditions aren't favorable

He was unsure but did not think that anyone was close to that.

Texanzone · « **Reply #4 on:** April 06, 2008, 01:14:16 PM »

243 thats moving ,that is the weather doing

shiphteeey · « **Reply #5 on:** April 06, 2008, 06:37:51 PM »

Deb busted 180...her light ass flying around the seat I hear

speedninja · « **Reply #6 on:** April 06, 2008, 07:17:15 PM »

Just got word Charlie busted 243 again. 2 passes in a row. The 2nd was in a different class. Thats 2 records. He is also the fastest vehicle at the event, car or bike. Way to go Charlie and DaveO....

busa200 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 06, 2008, 07:41:43 PM »

thanks guys, it was a blast.

SPEED KING · « **Reply #8 on:** April 06, 2008, 08:01:17 PM »

Walter better watch out..

Charlie,

Congrats on your great speeds during rough conditions.

John

PS. Glad to hear of no problemss other than some rain on Saturday.

J

busa200 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 06, 2008, 08:03:57 PM »

thanks john.

Texanzone · « **Reply #10 on:** April 06, 2008, 08:47:30 PM »

any word on the 08 busa's

Coryonbusa · « **Reply #11 on:** April 06, 2008, 09:03:37 PM »

Congrats!!!

entropy · « **Reply #12 on:** April 07, 2008, 01:17:47 AM »

Quote from: speedninja on April 06, 2008, 07:17:15 PM

Just got word Charlie busted 243 again. 2 passes in a row. The 2nd was in a different class. Thats 2 records. He is also the fastest vehicle at the event, car or bike. Way to go Charlie and DaveO....

hmmmmm....

DaveO put put nutz INTO the bike, and Charlie puts nutz ONTO the bike.

Seems to be working pretty good!!!

TURBO KING · « **Reply #13 on:** April 07, 2008, 01:33:18 AM »

Quote from: SPEED KING on April 06, 2008, 08:01:17 PM

Walter better watch out..

Charlie,

Congrats on your great speeds during rough conditions.

John

PS. Glad to hear of no problemss other than some rain on Saturday.

J

You ain't kidding, Johnny!

The competition isn't knocking at the door, it's kicking it in!!

Great job Charlie, you really kicked ass. That last run was as smooth as silk. It was good to see you and watch your runs.

Good job to Bill Warner at 226 naked in his first time out on a new bike. Fastest naked man at Maxton!

Hopefully my bike will be ready by the next meet.

I have gremlins. You all know the feeling............

Walt

jasontmc · « **Reply #14 on:** April 07, 2008, 10:04:51 PM »

nice work guys.
Bill thats a huge number into a big headwind!!! 235+ next meet?

WildBro · « **Reply #15 on:** April 08, 2008, 08:23:58 AM »

Quote from: jasontmc on April 07, 2008, 10:04:51 PM

nice work guys.
Bill thats a huge number into a big headwind!!! 235+ next meet?

I seem to go faster in a headwind for some reason, don't know why?? Maybe not 235 the next meet, I will be hoping for some improvement...maybe 230. The 235 is the naked guys holy grail, (just like 250 for the fairing guys) You are the only one that has done it and I think you did it twice.

I really need to get a little seat time on this bike. Its a lot different then the Vmax and I definitely have a N/A right wrist not a turbo one. First I need to find out what happened to the bike on shutdown on that last run. I have a little water in the oil (just enough to make it look like Peter North was in the motor. Seems like the head gasket. Plus, I pulled the plugs last night to do a leak down and found #2 plug was f'ked up. Here is a pic of it. All we can think of is when the water hit the ceramic on the plug it exploded??? Any one have ideas.

Bill

TURBO KING · « **Reply #16 on:** April 08, 2008, 09:04:10 AM »

Bill:

No, you are not imagining it. I didn't post up about it until now, because I don't feel like getting flamed by everyone and arguing. Not much time for the internet lately.

It has been MY, and I repeat MY experience, that the conditions on Sunday were some of the best I have seen at Maxton, at least for me and my bike, the way I am set up. A 10 mph+ STEADY HEADWIND is when my bike runs best. I went over 240 three times in one day with A 20=(?) MPH headwind.

Second best conditions are usually the 3/4 headwind/crosswind frome left to right that is the norm 90% of the time.

Third best are when it gusts from left to right.

The worst conditions for ME were the day we had the 10 mph tailwind. My bike lost all steering input at 225 all 4 (?) runs I attempted. I would try tokeep it between the cones and missed them by an inch once. I would chop the throttle, then get mad, and then crank it open again, but as you know, the boost is gone, run over , maybe a lousy 225 max. The tower was going nuts watching me and was glad I bailed making any more runs. Those were the scariest runs I have ever made at maxton and were 20+ mph slower than I have been there before. My runs in the 240's & high 230's were only scary when it came time to slow down.

Again, I am not telling anyone they are WRONG. Everyones bike is set up different. And maybe 95% of the bikes there will run better with a tailwind. But for those of you out there who think it's crazy that there bike felt stable at ultra high speeds with a headwind, it's not that crazy.

My feeling is that there is more downforce and the bike stays planted in the front. It doesn't really make sense though, because how could a 10 mph tailwind take away from the 230 mph of wind you are having push down on that front end?

I don't claim to be smart enough to figure it out, but I know what has ahppened in the past for me and my bike from first hand experiences.

JMHO

Oh yeah, that plug doesn't look melted? And its the only one? Were you mapped and tuned at the boost level you were running at? Kinda funny only one plug fried. When I melted my motor, ALL the plugs were messed up. Then again, my screw-ups tend to always be large in scale!

Walt

busa200 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 08, 2008, 10:04:12 PM »

walt,
what works for 1 guy doesnt mean it will work for the next guy (as if you didnt already know that). you're the one thats doing over 240 on your bike that noone else has rode so how can anyone dispute what you are saying if they havent ever rode your bike in those conditions?
charlie

TURBO KING · « **Reply #18 on:** April 09, 2008, 10:32:41 AM »

Yeah I know Charlie, you're right, but you know how the internet is......

You post up something a little controversial, or that can be easily misinterpreted because people can't hear HOW you are saying it, and next thing you know they are jumping all over ya!

Your run was the fastest I have have been able to stand there and see at Maxton by 4 mph. I swear, it seemed like it took you less than a second to go from about the 3/4 mile mark to dissapear thru the turn about 1/3 of a mile later.... It was really cool to watch.

Hopefully you'll come in May so I can get to watch a few more. May be a little faster if its a warmer track and the weather isn't too hot!

Congrats on your 200 Club Memebrship!

Walt

DahMurf · « **Reply #19 on:** April 09, 2008, 11:18:47 AM »

I was really hoping to hear some feedback from someone that ran the same configuration last year as this first meet. I wonder what the conditions did in regards to speed. I was happy with my outcome but wonder if it slowed me down or not.

Walt, are you finding the "help" of the head wind on the acceleration or just the handling when you're rolling out after the traps? I guess I can envision the headwind on the front helping to keep it from nosing over on the roll off thereby helping stability, I'm just not so convinced on the acceleration. I know when I rolled off I didn't nose dive nearly as much as I thought I might. Could have been the head wind but I won't know until I can run under different condictions. But what do I know, I'm just a girl!

Deb

TURBO KING · « **Reply #20 on:** April 09, 2008, 11:32:02 AM »

Deb...please..don't give me that "just a girl" nonsense! Your bike looked really great, and I know you did it all yourself. There are plenty of guys that couldn't do that.

I am strctly talking about acceleration. From the start to the trap. I haven't really thought about what affect it has on the slow down. And I don't roll off. I chop and grab brakes immediately, so maybe that's not a fair comparison.

Walt.

DahMurf · « **Reply #21 on:** April 09, 2008, 11:46:09 AM »

Quote from: TURBO KING on April 09, 2008, 11:32:02 AM

Deb...please..don't give me that "just a girl" nonsense! Your bike looked really great, and I know you did it all yourself. There are plenty of guys that couldn't do that.

Quote from: TURBO KING on April 09, 2008, 11:32:02 AM

I am strctly talking about acceleration. From the start to the trap. I haven't really thought about what affect it has on the slow down. And I don't roll off. I chop and grab brakes immediately, so maybe that's not a fair comparison.

Walt.

auughhh, I shudder when you say Chop! I've seen too many newbies chop & unload too fast with not so good results! (Don't try this at home!!!

) I still roll off & don't chop but it's probably how my suspension is set. Which I think I need to mess with now, maybe...? Is your suspension tight so you don't feel much shift on the chop?

You really have me wondering about your thoughts on this headwind. I'd love to stick you in a wind tunnel. It's got to be your aero flow in conjunction with your suspension. See now this is where the really nerdy people on LR.com start talking about CP's & CG's and the likes. We proved some of this out with Todd's pushrod adding & removing a fairing which uncovered some suspension opportunities. You know, I bet the LR.com would be a great place to discuss this AND it might help distract them from the 200mph club minimums long enough to not shut the board down again!

Take me with you if you go, you have me intrigued!

Deb

TURBO KING · « **Reply #22 on:** April 09, 2008, 12:32:01 PM »

Yeah stiffer springs in front.

Now I had to raise it because I went back to the stock oil pan.

Walt

DahMurf · « **Reply #23 on:** April 09, 2008, 01:51:05 PM »

Interesting. Now I know how nit picky you are, but have you spent a lot of time looking at your front vs rear height? It seems logical to me (yeah I know, Captain obvious here) that if a head wind helps & a tail wind hurts then your front to back pitch may need a little tweaking. Obviously I'm no expert here but I would give it a good look. If I felt a headwind was helping me then I'd be trying to duplicate that effect without the "benefit" of the headwind or detriment of the tailwind.

I know you don't need me to tell you that but, hey, sometimes hearing it from someone new puts the lightbulb on!

Deb

PS: Call Todd for the how to's, I'm just the idea girl!

TURBO KING · « **Reply #24 on:** April 09, 2008, 02:20:04 PM »

Yes I have a ridiculous amount of time and energy spent replicating the front and rear heights, including hanging electric winches with chains from my garage ceiling, to raise & lower fork tubes, measure sag, etc.

Problem was, it all changed after the raked fork, then chaged with the new swingarm, now changed again with stock oil pan.

Walt

DahMurf · « **Reply #25 on:** April 09, 2008, 09:04:39 PM »

hmmmm.... so, I know I could take 18 different measurements on ride height rake/trail and not have a flipping clue what to do with them.
Do you have any more of a clue then me other then just trying to mimic OEM and not getting too far off kilter?
I get the concept on what one should be trying to achieve with CP & CG I'm just not sure how to make the changes to achieve it
other then trial & error. (Picture me stabbing a big stick through the bike & trying to balance it!

)

Deb

TURBO KING · « **Reply #26 on:** April 09, 2008, 10:25:34 PM »

I never measured stock.

Trial & error.

If you almost crash, it's no good.

If you break a record, its good.

Walt

DahMurf · « **Reply #27 on:** April 10, 2008, 08:41:03 AM »

Ok, Now you're going to make me go contact the nerds for details!!!!
Have you picked any brains on this one or are you just completely winging it?

Deb

TURBO KING · « **Reply #28 on:** April 10, 2008, 09:23:50 AM »

I have talked to people. But I pretty much ignored everyone in the end, so I am just winging it.

Until that doesn't work, then I will get scientific.

W

DahMurf · « **Reply #29 on:** April 11, 2008, 03:22:06 PM »

Gotta love your candor Walt!

BTW, meant to tell you how much I enjoyed meeting the couple you brought down with you. They were really great & I hope they come back. Please make sure you tell her that I say totally kick a$$ speed for her first run!!!!
They were so much fun to have around with the enthusiasm and pure enjoyment of just being there! I really hope they become regulars!

Deb

TURBO KING · « **Reply #30 on:** April 11, 2008, 04:09:33 PM »

Wow, they said the same things about you!!

I feel exactly the same way you do, Deb. That's why when I found out there were only going to be 2 runs, I got out of my suit and gave my ride to Mike, so that Ava could go. I would have really felt bad if I got to ride and one of them didn't. I go down there all the time, and this was their first time, and I want them to come back. They are a real hoot to take a road trip with!

I kinda felt like I was casting the bait out there, setting the hook, and reeling them in.

Mike is an ex-roadracer with a current license, so his performance was to be expected - smooth, perfect shifts a second after banging the limiter, good tuck, good launch, etc....(and it's only his first time on the track!)

Ava has only been riding for a little over a year, and she did great. What we all liked was that she rode within her comfort level and felt safe. You should have seen the smile on her face when she pulled into the pits. She was kind of down on herself that she should have gone faster, but I told her it's all about being safe too.

Good times. Pushrod Tom kept calling them "The Kids"

Walt

brmrc51 · « **Reply #31 on:** April 11, 2008, 04:10:48 PM »

and a fast one at that !!

DahMurf · « **Reply #32 on:** April 11, 2008, 05:58:08 PM »

Oh yeah & pushrod Tom too!!! He SMOKED that record!!!!
You know, that's a class I was going to run on with my blast so I know how hard
it is to gain on those records!!! He did an awesome job too!

I can't wait for Racheal (Warp 12 Racing) and Ava to meet too! Us gals are going to
have a lot of fun this year! You tell Ava I was racing at that track for several years
before I ever broke 100mph and she did it on her first pass on a naked bike! I know
she's young & figured she didn't have a lot of road time so I sincerely mean it when I
said that I was impressed! Her smiles before the run were great, I can only imagine how
great it was afterwards!

It's just so much fun bringing new people in & watching
the joy & accomplishment! That right there is the good stuff!

Deb

TURBO KING · « **Reply #33 on:** April 11, 2008, 09:00:55 PM »

You are right Deb that is what it is all about.

I told Ava she had sunbeams shooting out of her helmet after that run.

Walt

nickelcityracing · « **Reply #34 on:** April 12, 2008, 07:12:17 AM »

We just got home from Maxton and our Ricky Gadson drag racing school...I will post more in the drag racing section on this....maxton was fun..we met alot of new people and caught up with the regulars....sunday turned out to be a good day to run..we got 2 runs in..my first was restricted to 200 or so. I decided to run at that speed because I had felt some more rain drops and figured one run was better than none ..I ran a 198 or so...?? did not even check the run log yet..just going from memory..my secong run was going to be a better one but when getting in to 5th I chopped the throttle due to a gust of wind...and never really got back into it...after checking our new data logger I noticed this..not sure what had happened so I talked to Scott Guthrie and told him what had happened and he replied.." its easy !!! your brain seized." he was right...our bikes are back at home and running great.....anyways...congrats to our good friend Bill on breaking my naked top speed ..to Charlie and 2 great runs and to everyone else who ran safely.....

Walter...Trill and I s best runs were when we dryed off the track...that was something else ... nice ass by the way..LOL

Jody/Trillium

TURBO KING · « **Reply #35 on:** April 12, 2008, 08:37:04 AM »

LOL!!

Yours looks good, too, baby! You started it! That was one of the highlights of the weekend for us too. Lots of good laughs.

It was great seeing you and Trill and Bill again too.

I have hardly ever been able to get my wrist to lock the throttle open again once I get out of it. I think it's because of the speeds we are doing. My brain is telling my wrist "Turn! Turn!" And my wrist seems to have a mind of it's own, screaming"WE'RE GONNA DIE !! NO WAY!!". Out of a dozen plus times of doing that, if I got back into it more than twice I would be surprised.

I remember going over my datalogs witht Guthrie, telling him how I was SURE I locked the throttle open again after I got out of it. We looked, and I was at like 70%. He just smiled and said "It's amazing how hard it can be to get that wrist to behave, isn't it?"

By the way I heard it thru the grapevine, not from Jody or Trill, that Jody was the quickest student Rickey has ever had, and Trillium was the fastest! Good job guys!!

Walt

nickelcityracing · « **Reply #36 on:** April 12, 2008, 08:50:38 AM »

thanks Walter....I posted a few pics in the drag racing section.....Jody

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