Y2K jetbike owner says his bike is "over" turbo busa's

[COLDSTONE1300]

I could be misunderstanding though on what he means by "produce". Be it production wise or tuned street legal monster wise. Anyways Link to the video and quote from "jetpoweredgriffin"  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmqSHIoVMQE#KQ8-c3R0txY

as the ownerdriver i will say that the best speed so far is 244 mph.this is the fastest motorcycle,box stock,street legal,street fuel ever produced.when anyone produces one faster we are waiting with 2 more larger engines,420 hp and then 650 hp.,of the same family.the 650 produces over 1000 ft./lbs. of torque.
by the way,what do you drive?

I'm on there as Falcon1298 and, like I have to other y2k defenders, informed him of What the yancy's turbo busa has done along with the records at elvington that are beyond the speed he listed (which he didn't mention if it was verified at the event or by his own means). And this isn't even mentioning gps reads of t busa owners here who have done those speeds and beyond as well. Seems like a nice guy and i sent him a link to here and will send links to these threads In hopes something can be worked out in the form of a filmed run. We've all seen what happend to boosted high hp vipers and supra's against a mild or well done turbo busa, but I can't recall anyone given the chance to run against a y2k jetbike. It's something we've wanted for awhile and I remember years back someone at the kaos forums who ran at bonneville (hank maybe?) emailed a challenge to the head cheese at marine turbine because of the BS claim they had at their website claiming it was the "fastest streetbike in the world". Not PRODUCTION, but fastest outright. He posted the emails he sent and got back and all the owner did is list theories and figures that but never accepted a challenge at a track event or somewhere fairly deserted they could film a few runs with. The owner also changed the claim on his website to "most powerful production bike in the world". Obviously because of a few bikes with japanese kanji on the side fairings. 

If he pops on over lets all be cool and maybe get something worked out. Be it backroad blast or at maxton/texas. Fulltilt still around here? This would make great video reguardless of who wins.

[TrickTom1]

That bike was at the Texas Mile, I don't know his name or number though.

[WildBro]

I believe you must have 500 units built in a year to be considered production.

Bill

[COLDSTONE1300]

Actually if you read his posts at the youtube link the guy seems pretty cool and is building up experience in these runs hence the speeds just around 200mph. Has met the Bud busa (Yancy's) guys at maxton too. He asked a question that I'd like answered as well: what is the fastest speed anyone has documented for a turbo busa on PUMP GAS? If it's a big enough build that would be 300ish on pump and 400+ on race mix then it should be 200+mph easy i'm guessing?

[TRNorBRN6001]

Don't think it was on pump gas, but Ack Attack went something like 344+mph with turbo Busa motors.

Yep, the Y2K bike guy at the Mile seemed real nice. He did say he was doing some shake down runs there. I think he is friends with Jay Leno. The scarry part of his bike is that it takes a little bit longer for the turbine motor to shut down once you get out of the throttle, with enough realestate that thing would probably go real good. Maybe Space Shuttle landing sight in SA would be the venue of choice for that bike.

[rustman]

I talked to him at the mile last time.  He really is a nice guy, so you're right, let's play nice.  If he was arrogant and snotty, it would be a free-for-all, but I walked away with a very positive impression of him.  He was definately easing into it when I watched him run.  The true test would be on a desert highway IMHO.  I wouldn't be scared to run him in that setting.  Of course, I'll need to reassemble every single little piece of my bike as it is completely disassembled at the moment.  Let's find another big hp busa in the meantime and set up a video session.  Lots of long dessert highways in the southwest.    

[SPARKY1397R]

do it! 

[sportbikeryder]

He asked a question that I'd like answered as well: what is the fastest speed anyone has documented for a turbo busa on PUMP GAS? If it's a big enough build that would be 300ish on pump and 400+ on race mix then it should be 200+mph easy i'm guessing?

Much more than 300 HP possible on pump gas, especially with a sub ambient cooler.
John

[ironhead]

I don't get what the deal is with pump gas. Your putting up a jet powered bike and then require pump gas I know someone thats working in new mexico with one badass turbo busa. busa200. We know what busa200's bike is running and capable of more so let's see some real numbers from the jet bike. very interesting.

[SPARKY1397R]

I don't get what the deal is with pump gas. Your putting up a jet powered bike and then require pump gas I know someone thats working in new mexico with one badass turbo busa. busa200. We know what busa200's bike is running and capable of more so let's see some real numbers from the jet bike. very interesting.

pump gas is more a big deal with car people,  but i think the turbine bike is asking the pump gas question since he can run on pump fuel.

[ironhead]

I get what your saying but it would seem since it's a jet powered bike it would be a run what you brung type deal.

[rustman]

Well, it doesn't matter what fuel you run as far as power.  Restricting it to pump would just mean that the amount of boost would have to be limited, and that's where the power loss comes in.  That would defeat the whole purpose wouldn't it?  I would guess that the fuel thing is probably a non-issue.  It doesn't make sense to me either.   

[Got-Busa?]

E85 is pump fuel...

[YAG]

Too bad E85 eats most fuel pumps we use on our turbo bikes

[crazybill]

what fuel pumps are you using ? My import car buddies (and me) are using bosch 044 and walbro 255 pumps with e85 and e100 and havent had any issues...

[YAG]

Bosch 044... seen pics of ethanol having wrecked the insulation on the windings.

[crazybill]

hmmmm.... thats what I have on my bike . how long did it take for this to occur ? Did it start losing pressure or what ?

[YAG]

Not sure how long... I have an 044 on my bike now and one spare... thinking about tuning for E85 and testing that for myself.

[unit176]

I saw that bike in person at a custom show that I had entered my bike in...the idea of a non-traditional motor, the sound of riding a jet, etc. aside, you would think that for all the money you pay for them (a Billion-gagillion-dolloars ) one would expect a better looking bike.  Hey they are fast though

[TURBO KING]

I  make a conservative 350 hp on pump gas, if that helps with this thread.  I must confess to not knowing what E85 is, though!

Walt

[YAG]

E85 is 85% ethanol, 15% gasoline... sold at some gas stations... 104 octane.

[TURBO KING]

Thanks Yag.  I don't beleive they sell that anywhere in NJ at a regular-type gas station.

Walt

[dnhabusa]

In my town, a gas station carries Cam2 110 octane, has a few pumps with it. The next town over, has a station that pumps 100 octane Sunoco. So the definition of pump gas, can vary depending on where you're riding. These are gas stations, not race tracks.
True, it's not C16, but it should be capable of a little more boost than 93 pump.
I also have not seen E85 in my area Turbo King.

[YAG]

Thanks Yag.  I don't beleive they sell that anywhere in NJ at a regular-type gas station.

Walt

You can usually find it at any gas station that carries biodiesel... Here in Tucson there are 5 stations that carry it, doesn't liik like anyone in NJ carries it.

http://e85vehicles.com/e85-stations.htm

[hayaboosta]

I  make a conservative 350 hp on pump gas, if that helps with this thread.  I must confess to not knowing what E85 is, though!

Walt

E85 is usually comprised of up to 85% Ethanol and 15% gasoline.  When you see an automobile advertised as a flex fuel vehicle, E85 is what they are refering to. 

E85 can be found with an octane rating of 100-105 depending on the percent of ethanol and the way it was produced.  Use of E85 requires about an 40% increase in fuel delivery as it is only 65% as effecient as regular pump gasoline.  We have used it in a few projects with some nice results.