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Offline 04StretchedGSXR

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1507 numbers
« on: September 29, 2008, 04:22:25 PM »
Hey guys, still trying to feel everybodys knowledge out on the big bore motors. What kind of hp, torque, et's are you all pulling on your 1507's Just looking to see kind of where everyone is at.
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2008, 04:38:52 PM »
220bhp at 10,100
132ftlb at 7,500
pump gas
stock injectors
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2008, 05:01:33 PM »
Here's a post from another recent post in the All Motor Section  wrt a 1510c motor...only 3cc's more than the typical 1397 plus 5 mm crank

Quote from: whtrthanu on September 29, 2008, 06:56:09 AM
I think the only people involved with making stuff like that is schumacher racing, its for the pro stock engine they have been working on......no way is anyone getting their hands on that kind of stuff yet....

I had a 1673 last season, with of my big heads on it it made right around 280hp to the tire.....

I have a 1510 now with spray, and motor only its making about 255-260 in good air.....
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2008, 10:25:47 AM »
Our small valve stage 2 head on a 1507 built by Brian on Brocks dyno made 239.6 std hp/233.3 sae hp.

Just for reference our zx12r stage 2 head on a 1427 zx12 engine made 234 sae hp.

We have a new modified stage 2 head for the 1507 now that I expect to see 240 sae hp.  Different cams as well.


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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2008, 10:57:29 AM »
Quote from: Y2KZX12R on October 01, 2008, 10:25:47 AM
Our small valve stage 2 head on a 1507 built by Brian on Brocks dyno made 239.6 std hp/233.3 sae hp.


To put this perspective, do you know how much stock K2-K7 or K8 on same dyno with same correction factor ?
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2008, 11:07:34 AM »
No, sorry, I wouldnt have that info. 
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2008, 12:08:39 PM »
My buddy's 1507 made 226hp through a Yosh pipe and 234hp through a HMF big bird but was running out of fuel with the stock injectors.  We still haven't done the fuel system or re-tuned it yet.  I figure it should make 240hp once we get the AFR back in the upper 12s as opposed to low 14s.      1507, big valve Carp. head, Carp. cams, pump gas motor.
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2008, 10:09:02 PM »
I have a mild built 1510 (86mm Hays block/stock 08 crank) I built for my street bike . Built to run on pump gas and not melt parts at stoplights it made 246hp/136tq (84 deg./29.3in-hg/22% humidity) on E85 / 242hp/135tq on pump gas after tuning the entire rpm range on the tuning link .
  Id kinda like to try some MR9 or one of the other "look at my dyno chart" fuels just to see what itll make but it wasnt built to make BIG hp , just a super fun street motor . mission accomplished !  :thumb: 

If I decide to try it out at maxton I might try a big port head on it aimed more at peak HP and Ethanol use (ethanol is my new pet project) . right now in street form it makes GREAT midrange . It makes 100hp at 4700 carries to 6500 then it shoots from 145hp to 225 at about 8700 then plains to 246 at 10800 .  tq was 130 at 7200 and peaked about 8500 .
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2008, 10:12:07 PM »
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Here's a post from another recent post in the All Motor Section  wrt a 1510c motor...only 3cc's more than the typical 1397 plus 5 mm crank

actually its a 86mm Billet block with an OEM 08 crank .
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2008, 01:06:59 AM »
Bill , correct me pls if I'm wrong...I thought the Hayes blocks were "solid" ie no water cooling whereas the Muzzy  cast block does have cooling?
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2008, 07:36:44 AM »
My Hays block has cooling . I believe you can get them either way .
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2008, 01:29:29 PM »
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not trying to tell you how to spend yo loot but a 2 mill gen1 motor built right with anice carpenter head and a few more tricks will get you 250. And can ride on the street all day. big motors make more torque but you might dont wanna tear down that much. 6500.00 will build you a real nice bike you will enjoy. my .02
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2008, 01:56:49 PM »
250hp 1363 ? maybe on Bobs dyno... 
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2008, 02:57:35 PM »
Quote from: crazybill on October 14, 2008, 01:56:49 PM
250hp 1363 ? maybe on Bobs dyno... 
:shock: that is some motor or should i say some dyno  :wink:
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2008, 05:13:56 PM »
wow 250 out of a 1363 , wonder what his 1397's make?
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2008, 06:18:54 PM »
Quote from: fastone on October 14, 2008, 01:29:29 PM
dude
not trying to tell you how to spend yo loot but a 2 mill gen1 motor built right with anice carpenter head and a few more tricks will get you 250. And can ride on the street all day. big motors make more torque but you might dont wanna tear down that much. 6500.00 will build you a real nice bike you will enjoy. my .02

That is some funny shizzit right there.

I have seen a few of Bob's and Lee's 1397's "with all the tricks" not make more than 235rwhp on a non-local dyno...
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2008, 09:30:29 AM »
Quote from: fastone on October 14, 2008, 01:29:29 PM
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not trying to tell you how to spend yo loot but a 2 mill gen1 motor built right with anice carpenter head and a few more tricks will get you 250. And can ride on the street all day. big motors make more torque but you might dont wanna tear down that much. 6500.00 will build you a real nice bike you will enjoy. my .02
the motor Im talking about is a 1441 high compresssion and it was built down south and dynoed on a 200i dyno
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2008, 09:34:19 AM »
by the way even if it only make 235 out of a 1441 high compression you can see better numbers than a 1507 and still ride the dam thing. when someone  response to how to post pic I will show some graphs. but a 1441 will that much power you will get 235 on pump fuel easy on anybodys dyno.
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2008, 09:59:49 AM »
It all depends on who's dyno. I've seen a 1441 around here that makes 223 and it's a well built motor with a good head. Of course that's pump gas so with some fancy fel I suppose 230 is there.
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2008, 02:05:11 PM »
Quote from: Bently1 on October 15, 2008, 09:59:49 AM
It all depends on who's dyno. I've seen a 1441 around here that makes 223 and it's a well built motor with a good head. Of course that's pump gas so with some fancy fel I suppose 230 is there.

I agree; folks are posting some ridiculous dyno numbers for 1441s.
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2008, 08:22:07 PM »
I have done a few and they made any where between 230hp to 235hp mine made 232hp all on 93 pump gas.
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2008, 08:26:31 PM »
Quote from: Y2KZX12R on October 01, 2008, 10:25:47 AM
Our small valve stage 2 head on a 1507 built by Brian on Brocks dyno made 239.6 std hp/233.3 sae hp.

Can U tell the veiwers why that bike went faster with a 1397cc then that 1507cc and all they did was cange engines. And Sonny is so usset that he won't even race the bike any more. I would just like to know where that project failed?
 That was a two ring piston killa with Ti valves.
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2008, 09:02:03 PM »
all I'm saying is you can say what you want and do want you want. 1441 motors are out performing 1507 motors daily and if you have a strret strip bike why would you build a 1507 on a limited budget. so people with deep pockets run them and can afford all the teardown for bearing replacement.
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2008, 10:04:19 PM »
If moneys an issue keep the stock crank , build a 1397 and spend the money on a dry shot , efir and 2 dial .  :thumb:
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Re: 1507 numbers
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2008, 08:32:47 PM »
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Can U tell the viewers why that bike went faster with a 1397cc then that 1507cc and all they did was cange engines.

The engine is making the power, from what I was told the bike is spinning the tire bad.  But of course you knew this because you talk to those guys. Brian even addressed this in another thread on here the last time you tried to start something with him.  Why don't you call Brian and discuss it with him again.
I've seen many of your posts on the other bike boards attacking people and even your own customers... is this a habit of yours or a pasttime?

At Maxton this past summer I even heard a group of people commenting about your attacks and rants on people on psycho bike.
Someone said you were even banned? Is that true?

I'm not sure why you are always on the attack on these different forums.  As a friendly recommendation, you really need to rethink your business model.  Words out.

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