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1397 map
« on: October 28, 2008, 02:22:12 PM »
I am needing a map for the 1397 i just built it has a cooper head with .395/.378 cams....
I just need something to fire it up and break it in...anyhelp
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Re: 1397 map
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2008, 03:22:46 PM »
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Re: 1397 map
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2008, 10:20:01 AM »
I will just get coop to send me 1 until i can get up there, there is no need for the guy to pay 40 for a map then get it tuned for another 300.
I figure with the kind people on here that somebody might have a map to get it by until tuned.
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Re: 1397 map
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2008, 11:07:23 AM »
13,

Why not buy Spaz's maps and compare and contrast between his and a 'custom' map? Which such a modified engine, who knows you may find that some maps are better than (gasp!) one 'tuned' at a dyno shop that shows decent peak horsepower but with not a lot of emphasis in low-mid part throttle response.

If you do get it tuned a dyno shop, make sure you get an Air/Fuel readout, both at peak and, say, 40% throttle. But don't ask for the 40% throttle map (with air/fuel) until after the bike is 'done'.

Just something to consider.
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Re: 1397 map
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2008, 11:52:25 AM »
I have been having cooper do my motors for yrs and have tuned about 30 bikes for me, i trust them and there tunes. Also have seen there bikes run at the track.

Also if i get a map from spaz how am i gonna what the air/fuel ratio is correct, it wont give me a read out for south alabama.

I am not saying that he is gonna be wrong , i just ain't gonna ask this guy to buy it from spaz and then  pay agian to get it tuned.
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Re: 1397 map
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2008, 12:00:19 PM »
so your dyno tuner doesnt have a sniffer??

Get it done with someone who does..I have a 1397 and tried a few maps,bike runs like shit down low,and who know the rest..was going to get it tuned by the master Dave O before his accident..

No offence to Spaz,I'm sure He's done enough to know a good start!!..But every bike location,pipes,mods ect is different..
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Re: 1397 map
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2008, 01:50:06 PM »
Who are you talking to E.....
 If you are talking to me , i never said they didnt..
They do have it on there, i know cooper performance isn't that well known on here, but they build power all around. With some of the best service and help you could ask for. Me and GWizz like them
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Re: 1397 map
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2008, 01:58:51 PM »
lil mike might have something. 
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Re: 1397 map
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2008, 02:12:10 PM »
Sorry,read it wont give you a readout for where you are??

Get it tuned either way for sure..I spent the whole year because I didn't have a tuner and wasted alot of time trying on My own to get it running right..could of been possibly running much faster/better!!

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Re: 1397 map
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2008, 02:13:59 PM »
Quote from: E-RACER on October 29, 2008, 02:12:10 PM
Sorry,read it wont give you a readout for where you are??

Get it tuned either way for sure..I spent the whole year because I didn't have a tuner and wasted alot of time trying on My own to get it running right..could of been possibly running much faster/better!!

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he meant spaz's map isn't setup for alabama air. 
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Re: 1397 map
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2008, 03:08:03 PM »
I have maps for stock all the way to 1600cc. From Iowa to Aruba. I have tuned bike in 25 states.  And let me tell U a dyno map is no where near as good as a track map. But He should do what his gut tells him to do. I will bet a steak dinner that after its tuned . U make two passes and I could install a map that will pick mph n et. I have show and done this to racers for years. Just remember no one races dynos.
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Re: 1397 map
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2008, 03:29:31 PM »
Quote from: Spaz Racing on October 29, 2008, 03:08:03 PM
I have maps for stock all the way to 1600cc. From Iowa to Aruba. I have tuned bike in 25 states.  And let me tell U a dyno map is no where near as good as a track map. But He should do what his gut tells him to do. I will bet a steak dinner that after its tuned . U make two passes and I could install a map that will pick mph n et. I have show and done this to racers for years. Just remember no one races dynos.

You are so right.
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Re: 1397 map
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2008, 03:30:02 PM »
so after i tune my bike at the track with my dl32 you can mail me a map that will gain mph/et? 
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Re: 1397 map
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2008, 04:31:08 PM »
Quote from: sparky1397r on October 29, 2008, 03:30:02 PM
so after i tune my bike at the track with my dl32 you can mail me a map that will gain mph/et? 

Read carfully I said Dynooooo.  But I would like to B @ a track the same time U R. Then after U tune it all in and say THERE is't all done I could walk over and help out to some more power. Just saying after tuning these bikes for tens years I have learned a LOT :thumb:
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Re: 1397 map
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2008, 04:49:49 PM »
no doubt you make good maps, and i dunno what dyno you use. Also people have there idea of which dyno is better, but jerry and jeff use a superflow that has  air speed to match wheel speed so it as close to real word riding as you can get.

The bikes they tune and build FLY. Jerry's been in the business  over 25 yrs and jeff over 15yrs.....

I will be at a track near me this weekend, ya wanna help.......i will buy u a steak if you come
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Re: 1397 map
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2008, 05:24:41 PM »
Doesn't Cooper performance have something they can throw ya?
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Re: 1397 map
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2008, 05:50:58 PM »
yeah after i posted, i thought bout callin and they sent it
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Re: 1397 map
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2008, 06:21:05 PM »
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Re: 1397 map
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2008, 06:22:49 PM »
Oh yeah this is a daily drive that will never hit the track, sorry i forgot to say that before...lol
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Re: 1397 map
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2008, 10:34:01 AM »
give cooper and them a call
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Re: 1397 map
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2008, 01:01:48 PM »
they did
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Re: 1397 map
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2008, 01:24:40 PM »
Quote from: Spaz Racing on October 29, 2008, 04:31:08 PM
Quote from: sparky1397r on October 29, 2008, 03:30:02 PM
so after i tune my bike at the track with my dl32 you can mail me a map that will gain mph/et? 

Read carfully I said Dynooooo.  But I would like to B @ a track the same time U R. Then after U tune it all in and say THERE is't all done I could walk over and help out to some more power. Just saying after tuning these bikes for tens years I have learned a LOT :thumb:

that would be cool of you  :thumb:
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