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Offline Jonny Hotnuts

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LSR turbo motor build
« on: April 27, 2009, 08:25:20 PM »


Car



Motor before





Doing oil mods



A few new parts



porting head





after



pistons on rods



clutch



almost done!

Currently I am waiting on getting the head back before I can do any more.
Having +1mm exhaust done and I don’t have the stuff or balls to do it.

List of components used:

APE:

Billet manual cam adjuster
65 psi springs
new valve seals
SS intakes
+1mm SS exhaust
Billet clutch basket
MTC billet inner hub
Ultra heavy clutch springs
Carrillo Rods
.80 spacer
full gasket kit
HV oil pump gear
Billet breather
Adjustable cam sprockets
JE turbo pistons
Tool steel pins
Main studs
Cylinder studs

(and I am sure there is more I cant remember now)

Other:

Billet 2” pan
2 intake cams
Billet clutch slave support
New bearings mains and rods
FBG tranny undercut and big shaft
Electric water pumps
Balanced nitride and micro polished crank
ported TB's
New cam guides

~JH

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Busa pwrd Bonneville car 208 mph+
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NA motor: 1507cc
Fastest 1.5L NA door slammer in the world

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Re: LSR turbo motor build
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2009, 11:39:25 PM »
nice....i bet your pockets feel lighter after that motor build cause i did the same build practically also :thumb: looking good
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Re: LSR turbo motor build
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2009, 11:34:56 AM »
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nice....i bet your pockets feel lighter after that motor build cause i did the same build practically also  looking good

Thanks~


When we started the car I had a goal of doing everything....including the trailer for less than 10K.

Needless to say that was an unrealistic goal. Even with help from Team APE and doing my own head porting, oil mods and other work myself it still is crazy expensive.

Truth is.....I dont even look at receipts anymore....I dont want to know!


~JH
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Garrett T28@7psi

Busa pwrd Bonneville car 208 mph+
2X world record holder
NA motor: 1507cc
Fastest 1.5L NA door slammer in the world

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Re: LSR turbo motor build
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2009, 05:53:25 PM »
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nice....i bet your pockets feel lighter after that motor build cause i did the same build practically also  looking good

Thanks~


When we started the car I had a goal of doing everything....including the trailer for less than 10K.

Needless to say that was an unrealistic goal. Even with help from Team APE and doing my own head porting, oil mods and other work myself it still is crazy expensive.

Truth is.....I dont even look at receipts anymore....I dont want to know!


~JH


Not looking at the receipts is the best form of denial.....I do the same
RCC SUPER ULTRA
Race fuel=XXXHP / XXXTQ
93 oct= XXXHP / XXXTQ
Motor by Cooper Performance
Tranny by R&D
Controlled by NLR
Monitored by AEM
Resurrected by Murderedout
Tuned by "........"
=Youtube Interstate Pulls

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Re: LSR turbo motor build
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2009, 10:57:19 PM »


Got the cams degreed.
It took me only about 5 hours.....I could do another in 30 minutes now!
Had to make a jig to hold the dial and a TDC bell.

109/110 (using a big turbo and cold cam on the hot, ported with big ex valves)


Looks like I am now going to have to give Richard a call even though I wanted to do everything home grown.
Going to run the microtech LT-10s and monster injectors.
Too much experience in safely getting big HP on this setup for me to try and save coin and melting aluminum.



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Busa pwrd Bonneville car 208 mph+
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NA motor: 1507cc
Fastest 1.5L NA door slammer in the world

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Re: LSR turbo motor build
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2009, 02:05:23 PM »
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Re: LSR turbo motor build
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2009, 08:10:31 PM »
Are you running 2 inlets from what you've said above. I'm building similiar and trying to figure where to start on cam timing

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Re: LSR turbo motor build
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2009, 08:45:30 PM »
I am running 109 and 110.

You willl need a big turbo to take advantage of 2 cold cams, you will make big HP but spool time will be later in the day.

Good for me.....bad for some.

On my personal bike I want to get rid of my garrett T28 and get a GTK 500.
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Re: LSR turbo motor build
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2009, 07:37:34 PM »
Thats great to know. thanks. WIll try 108 - 110 to start, get fuel etc sorted then through on dyno and play with timing of cams

Mine's a race car so not too worried about when it'll come on boost as other than a couple of hairpins is very unlikely to get under 7k rpm.

I'm running a T04E 0.63 AR Exhaust and 57 trim compressor. Obviously plan to start is around 6 psi and iron bugs out then properly go up to 10 psi (If it looks like it'll cope). It's a race car so needs to run 15 minutes at a time so that is part of reason to use cold cam (help get the heat OUT!!)

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Re: LSR turbo motor build
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2009, 11:16:31 PM »
I dont know how much you know about building but you need to remove 100% of the valve lash to get accurate cam timing.

I thought the guy who told me was full of it....after all...how much diffrence could a few .001 make....

I found out.

What I THOUGHT was 109 was really 106!

Good luck

~JH
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Re: LSR turbo motor build
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2009, 11:36:07 PM »
Nice build, excuse my questions, but for what is the tab in the second pic.!!!?????

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Re: LSR turbo motor build
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2009, 11:19:44 AM »
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Nice build, excuse my questions, but for what is the tab in the second pic.!!!?????


Tab?
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Re: LSR turbo motor build
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2009, 03:23:43 PM »
Looks like an awesome project. What power you plan to put to the salt?

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Re: LSR turbo motor build
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2009, 06:50:43 PM »
Our goal is to get myself and my pops in the 200 MPH club this year and will require a minimum of 4 runs over 205.

It is also my intent to crush all records, in all non special construction classes (lakester and streamliners) in the next higher displacement level.

We are running "H" engines and this allows us to run 1000 to 1526cc engines
The next engine is "G" and allows 1527 to 2000cc engines.

The fastest blown H engine is 205 (ironically this record is in the class we are running)
THe fastest blown G engine is 246.

We have determined with our CdA numbers that it will require 490 WHP to best 246.
Just to break both blown H engine records in our class will require about 250 WHP to go 210.

It may be difficult to break the 246 G record......This was done with an 800-1200 HP ecotec motor. THe next closest blown G record is like 225 so you know this guy was really pushing it for a little 2.0!



For our first runs I am planning on running about 325 HP.....should be good for at least 225.



Here is the motor finished. I am using a Modified Murray sidewinder. This will pull double duty as our NA header and turbo header.
I still have to put on the gate....trying to make as much gate priority mounting as possible.





Here is the big 1507 No2 motor.
You can see the electric water pump in the side and the makings of the turbo motor engine cage to the right under the turbo motor.

Too bad I couldn’t hide the other motor in the car for a few extra horsepower!


~JH
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Re: LSR turbo motor build
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2009, 08:09:45 PM »
Awesome project... man that's some power, would love that on mine if I could have it do it reliably for 15 - 20 minutes at a time

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Re: LSR turbo motor build
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2009, 08:11:15 PM »
JH.

I noticed you run a short line for where the cooler used to go. Is this better to do in your opinion than using the block off plates and remove the screw inside?

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Re: LSR turbo motor build
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2009, 08:14:05 PM »
We're building my exhaust at the moment. Turbo sits in a similiar place to your other than the header is short and points straight up (turbo sits in the middle of the engine. Great to see how other than run in a car chassis

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Re: LSR turbo motor build
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2009, 10:22:42 PM »
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JH.

I noticed you run a short line for where the cooler used to go. Is this better to do in your opinion than using the block off plates and remove the screw inside?

The screw is removed in both motors.

The 1507 uses a bypass line to the pan, the turbo motor is blocked.

The pan on the 1507 has a boss and is tapped for a line return. Cant say for sure why someone opted to use the bypass kit as apposed to blocks (didnt build this motor) but dont think it will make any difference either way. The turbo motor billet pan didnt have the boss so no need to block it. I guess they figure if you are running the billet pan you are not using the oil cooler.
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Re: LSR turbo motor build
« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2009, 11:28:12 PM »
That's interesting. I've got mine blocked off, with the screw removed. But I was under the impression that you had to leave it in if you have a line joining the two together.

You've been running it so sure its right and its must only be critical if you have it blocked.

I gather it may have more oil to the main gallery as entering the gallery from 2 places.

I sit in an office so no engineer here. Will check my details toinight though

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Re: LSR turbo motor build
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2009, 10:59:47 AM »
Now that I think about it I wonder as well.

WIll pull the filter off tonight and see if the screw is still there~
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Garrett T28@7psi

Busa pwrd Bonneville car 208 mph+
2X world record holder
NA motor: 1507cc
Fastest 1.5L NA door slammer in the world