200+

[HOS]

I can sit at over 180 without tucking in too much, depends on your strength 

[fvance]

Bob, were you foot shifting at Goliad in March? And of course three magic words " Tuned by Cheese " And of course your superb riding skills helped a little . The OF's were rocking at Goliad!!

Fred

[entropy]

Rider weight is a major variable

Dude not to be a dick but weight almost has no effect on top speed....

~JH

sorry JH. but you are 100% wrong FOR THE STANDING MILE.

At Bonneville, you are prob on the money,
but in a standing Mile it IS a dragrace; every mph you leave at the beginning is a loss at the Mile marker.
Light guys go faster in the Mile.

I ain't light.

[speedninja]

Rider weight is a major variable

Dude not to be a dick but weight almost has no effect on top speed....

~JH

sorry JH. but you are 100% wrong FOR THE STANDING MILE.

At Bonneville, you are prob on the money,
but in a standing Mile it IS a dragrace; every mph you leave at the beginning is a loss at the Mile marker.
Light guys go faster in the Mile.

I ain't light.

+10 Karl

[Kiwi]

There was some wind tunnel testing that was linked to from here a while ago. The bigger guy (think it was Dave O) had better aero than the jockey.

[Jonny Hotnuts]

sorry JH. but you are 100% wrong FOR THE STANDING MILE.

At Bonneville, you are prob on the money,
but in a standing Mile it IS a dragrace; every mph you leave at the beginning is a loss at the Mile marker.
Light guys go faster in the Mile.

I ain't light.

Entropy.....

Maybe read my post before you assume I am 100% wrong about anything. 

This is not the case in drag racing....or racing where you have a limited space to reach your top speed.

ALSO

Losing 3 or 4mph due to a heavyweight rider can be all the difference.

Not really a fair comparison to say that weight will automatically mean worse aeros....many people have to add weight for traction and this can add zero positive or negative to the Cd. Rider weight alone will not have any measurable affect on overall top speed that is....unless the rider is over 800 pounds and then it will only be down 1ish mph.

~JH

[DXB]

These 280HP GSXR1300's which run mid 8's at over 160mph,

what do they do 0-60 and 0-100mph?

I don't think anyone measures these numbers. But I have run 8.8 @ 158mph. All motor, stock wheelbase. That engine was making around 225hp. It also went 204mph in a flying 1/4. It was doing 5.8s @ 130mph in the 1/8. As far as top speed goes you also have to remember there are certain factors which will effect the result. I don't think any of the venues allow for the ultimate numbers. Bonneville will have traction and altitude to slow you down. Maxton is only a 1 mile run up, etc. But when it is all said and done, the Busa is the fastest bike available in a straight line, and the easiest to make even faster.

I didnt think people would, I am interested though... 0-60:2.0 and 0-100:3.5 ? what do you think?

DXB hello mate  

You need to check out with the guys who do the top speed runs in the UK like 200mph.org or UKBusas.co.uk ok ?

There are NO definitive figures like the ones you are asking for because there are so many variables  

Rider weight is a major variable.
Air temp, air density, humidity, air quality, air movement etc are all major factors at these high speeds. Thats just "air" !

I believe a stock but well set up Busa has hit 200mph in the UK.
The Flying Dutchman hit 265 mph last year or the year before.

Pay attention at the back there !!  
http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/forum/index.php?topic=129549.220

0 to 60 times are pretty irrelevant tbh unless your on the track and most are looking at distance times over yards and not times to certain speeds.
0 to 60 times are more about how strong your forearms, your back and your grip strength is than power of the bike  
On a stocker your looking at 2.5 secs or there about 0 to 60.... but only if your strong enough and have the right technique and the balls.
The "launch" is critical and it isn't easy to launch them quickly  

Hi mate,

I think ill take a look over at those UK busa sites. Cheers for the links.

Who is the flying dutch man? 265mph is pretty crazy? surely not at brunters?!

Ive had a look at the first vid, VERY QUICK. I take it thats boosted ?! 280-300HP to acheive acceleration as savage as that?

Makes me want one even more now.. JUst no time to blink... Scary stuff.

So i would imagine a 280HP would not be much quicker to 60 due to traction issues over a stock bike but to 100mph must be insane.

stock must do 0-100mph in 5.5 secs or thereabouts? and 280HP in 3.5 im guessing. There must be some times floating about somewhere.

Cheers

Carl

DXB, to give you a feel of the acceleration and I appreciate you would like a Busa, so please enjoy these two videos  

1st one a tanks eye view on a stock Busa, front wheel comes up so easy   The speedo is mph not kph OK ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfGK4gQdaZA

2nd one is a sweet turbo Busa, watch how fast the speedo needle rises and how fast you run out of road ?
At the 12 o-clock position on the speedo, thats about 120 mph.
Trouble with Busas is everything else is just in the bloody way !!!!  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKPSjVkQVr0

Just read the first vid is a stock one.... WOW.. surely not.. the acceleration is incrediBle.. A guy at work once had one.. (I never saw it), He did say there life alteringly FAST



2nd vid is even more insane..



EDIT, just spoke to a friend who did a genuine GPS 189mph, which was an indicated 205mph on the speedo.

He later did a Indicatrd 217mph on a ''Ahem'' private road. so proBaBly a genuine 200+

[WildBro]

What is the exact top speed that the Dutchman has gone?
It may come in handy some day 

Bill

[Texanzone]

What is the exact top speed that the Dutchman has gone?
It may come in handy some day 

Bill

like around the 1st of Aug.

[Texanzone]

Bob, were you foot shifting at Goliad in March? And of course three magic words " Tuned by Cheese " And of course your superb riding skills helped a little . The OF's were rocking at Goliad!!

Fred

Bob has a shifter,I was foot shifting

[SPEED KING]

What is the exact top speed that the Dutchman has gone?
It may come in handy some day 

Bill

Bill,

Frank went 265.4mph with gale force winds at his heels, he ran a return in to a lesser amount of wind on his return (other way) and ran less than 230 from what I read..


J

[Texanzone]

Hey JH next time you at The Texas Mile come tell me who you are because I don"t recall ever seeing you there,now the people that don"t treat the Mile as a drag race are losers, but I've have only done 206.215 with a stock cc 05 busa so what do I know

[Jonny Hotnuts]

Hey JH next time you at The Texas Mile come tell me who you are because I don"t recall ever seeing you there,now the people that don"t treat the Mile as a drag race are losers, but I've have only done 206.215 with a stock cc 05 busa so what do I know

What do you know???


Apparently not enough to read a post before you make a comment that makes zero sense.

Seriously…..when the F did I say anything about not treating the TM like a drag race or anything close.

[Texanzone]

Hey JH next time you at The Texas Mile come tell me who you are because I don"t recall ever seeing you there,now the people that don"t treat the Mile as a drag race are losers, but I've have only done 206.215 with a stock cc 05 busa so what do I know

What do you know???


Apparently not enough to read a post before you make a comment that makes zero sense.

Seriously…..when the F did I say anything about not treating the TM like a drag race or anything close.

well looks like my bad,sorry about that but when you come to the mile look me up i'll buy you a drink

[Jonny Hotnuts]

Texanzone, I was a dick.

If my car didnt require a 40 mph push before it hits first I would see you at the TM. (keep thinking my 02 would make for a nice LSR....after all she only got about 100 miles last year, debating a drag or lsr).

Better yet....

You make it to the big show (Speedweek) and I will be buying the beer!


Just hook up with the bad arse Texan FV, he will be rollin soon!

~JH

[Texanzone]

I plan on The big show one day maybe in a few years 

[Kiwi]

If you work back from the 60' drag strip times, and assume constant acceleration at these low speeds, here is how they would translate to a 0 - 60 mph.

                                                                                    60' time          0 - 60mph time
Reasonable time for a stock bike                                           1.7s                2.2s
Good rider, slightly modified bike                                          1.5s                1.7s
Well set up drag bike, 230hp+                                              1.2s                1.1s

[HOS]

If you work back from the 60' drag strip times, and assume constant acceleration at these low speeds, here is how they would translate to a 0 - 60 mph.

                                                                                    60' time          0 - 60mph time
Reasonable time for a stock bike                                           1.7s                2.2s
Good rider, slightly modified bike                                          1.5s                1.7s
Well set up drag bike, 230hp+                                              1.2s                1.1s

For DXB, times are totally down to the individual riders skill/ability 
On a bike you can`t just jump on say a 300bhp bike and expect to do fast standing 1/4 miles.
It takes time to learn the skills and not everyone has the talent anyway 

Yeah even a stock Busa acceleration is shatteringly quick 

[HOS]

Just read the first vid is a stock one.... WOW.. surely not.. the acceleration is incrediBle.. A guy at work once had one.. (I never saw it), He did say there life alteringly FAST

I justed watched the 1st vid and timed it at 0 to 110/120 in around 10/11 seconds which is a bit slow for a stocker.
I assumed its a stocker by the speed and the exhaust sound. Sounded like a stocker to me.
A boosted bike sounds a lot different... the 2nd bike sounds sweet     

Can anyone say what a reasonable 1/4 time and terminal speed for a stock Busa would be as a reference point ?

 

[HOS]

DXB, another usefull tip is you have to train your brain to get up to speed too 

I picked up on one of your earlier comments which made me think: your brain needs to be able to keep up with the bike.
Trust me on this, I had old ZZR1100 D2 which topped out at 184 mph before my 1st Busa back in 2000 and even that wasn`t enough
to prepare my head for the Busa.
You need lightining fast reaction times and to be able to respond quickly to situations that the Busa will propel you into so quckly that your head is way lagging behind.

I hope you can appreciate what I mean? I`m telling you this as someone who would rather you learn a little from all of us 
Safety is important 

I know the British "gung ho" hero attitudes amongst new bikers and tbh most of it is bollocks.
Also.....British roads are vastly different to the US. We are talking track times here, but its also relevant to road bikes too.

As we say in England: "0 to casualty in 2.5 seconds" 

[HOS]

sorry JH. but you are 100% wrong FOR THE STANDING MILE.

At Bonneville, you are prob on the money,
but in a standing Mile it IS a dragrace; every mph you leave at the beginning is a loss at the Mile marker.
Light guys go faster in the Mile.

I ain't light.

Entropy.....

Maybe read my post before you assume I am 100% wrong about anything. 

This is not the case in drag racing....or racing where you have a limited space to reach your top speed.

ALSO

Losing 3 or 4mph due to a heavyweight rider can be all the difference.

Not really a fair comparison to say that weight will automatically mean worse aeros....many people have to add weight for traction and this can add zero positive or negative to the Cd. Rider weight alone will not have any measurable affect on overall top speed that is....unless the rider is over 800 pounds and then it will only be down 1ish mph.

~JH

I can`t quite get my head around the "dynamics"of a guy my size: 6 foot 2" tall and 270 lb being able to obtain the same speed as a 5 foot 9" 154 lb guy over a short distance like most
race tracks. Our longest are some of the USAF bases over here and I think that only gives a 1 mile or so run up?
Its like having a rider and pillion compared to a single rider ? 

But I am very interested in what everyone is saying 

[Jonny Hotnuts]

I can`t quite get my head around the "dynamics"of a guy my size: 6 foot 2" tall and 270 lb being able to obtain the same speed as a 5 foot 9" 154 lb guy over a short distance like most
race tracks

I would like to see where anyone said that a heaver rider would be able to obtain the same speed as a lighter rider in a short distance.

Where is this comming from.....

[Pete]

Just for the record the fastest bone stock Gen1 Hayabusa we've had in the UK went 191mph. The only alteration we allow for bone stock bike is removal of the top speed limiter and non-stock tyres. There have been a few stock-motored bikes over the 200 with pipes & strapping. Top-speed events in the UK are mostly orgainsed by Trev Duckworth owner of Straightliners racing and 200mph.net. You can find most of the results of past years there.

Where are you based in the UK DXB, and what year bike have you got?

[HOS]

I can`t quite get my head around the "dynamics"of a guy my size: 6 foot 2" tall and 270 lb being able to obtain the same speed as a 5 foot 9" 154 lb guy over a short distance like most
race tracks

I would like to see where anyone said that a heaver rider would be able to obtain the same speed as a lighter rider in a short distance.

Where is this comming from.....

Well done JH ! 

You`ve finally tuned in to what I`ve been saying all along.