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Offline wopper

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bking motor fit
« on: September 05, 2009, 08:46:14 PM »
Hi I smashed  up my bking dose anyone know if the motor will fit -work in a  gen 2 busa

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Re: bking motor fit
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2009, 09:11:59 AM »
Only difference is the black paint ( and a different style front sprocket cover ( and a smaller clutch cylinder ) ).

I forgot. The B-King has a bracket on the cylinder to fasten a cooling pipe. If you are going to put a Gen 1 cylindr on a B-King you have to make a small bracket ( as I had to do ).

Bolt right in.


The ECU are different though but I am 99.999999% sure that you can use a Busa ECU on the B-King.

Edit about the bracket.
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Re: bking motor fit
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2009, 07:34:53 PM »
Yes you can use the ECU from the busa  We have done it before mid last year Worked out great  :thumb:

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Re: bking motor fit
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2009, 10:20:10 AM »
Yes you can use the ECU from the busa  We have done it before mid last year Worked out great  :thumb:

hey Rob,

Completely plug and play without any FI lights?
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Re: bking motor fit
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2009, 11:54:44 AM »
Ye sir no issues  :thumb:

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Re: bking motor fit
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2009, 12:01:03 PM »
you get your harness i sent out?  Order injectors?  Just curious if they fit or not. 
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Re: bking motor fit
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2009, 02:32:43 AM »
I have been wondering too...are the engines the same?

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Re: bking motor fit
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2009, 10:03:03 AM »
I have been wondering too...are the engines the same?
Read my post.

Only difference are the black paint, another sprocket cover and to mounting points on the cyl block. Nothing that's matters.
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Re: bking motor fit
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2009, 01:06:28 AM »
i think i seen in a mag that the b-king throttle bods are a smaller bore diameter .

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Re: bking motor fit
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2009, 01:48:27 AM »
i think i seen in a mag that the b-king throttle bods are a smaller bore diameter .

Is there an online link for that info? It would be interesting to read that. Although I don't know why Suzuki would go to all that length to change out the TBs if everything else was the same.  :shock:
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Re: bking motor fit
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2009, 08:59:15 AM »
i think i seen in a mag that the b-king throttle bods are a smaller bore diameter .

No they are NOT different.

I have one B-King that I have modifyed from 1340 to 1507 and I know these inside and out.

The B-King is by far the worst bike to to work on though. To lift the tank takes forever but the engine is just like the Hayabusa 08.

This is my bike: http://www.bike.no/b-king/

its in Norwegian but if you ask I will tell.

You can even se several pictures of me hacking the exhaust :)
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Re: bking motor fit
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2010, 01:32:32 AM »
For the guys saying the Busa ECU works with the B-King, are you meaning if you put a B-King motor in the Busa (that already had the Busa ECU), or have you seen a case where someone put a Busa ECU on a B-King motorcyle?

The ECU hackers are saying the guages are different and Busa firmware cant talk to the B-King guages.

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Re: bking motor fit
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2010, 02:53:31 AM »
I haven't tried a BUSA ECU on my B-King.  I thought about it but never did and its a pain in the ass to swap an ECU on the B-King so I probably never will. That bike is FINISHED from my part. The next owner can do what he want :)

I Have however read that's its doable.
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Re: bking motor fit
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2010, 08:43:15 AM »
You can flash bking ecu now :)
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Re: bking motor fit
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2010, 02:10:29 AM »
Yeh, I know you can flash it, but the thread is inconsistent with what it sounds like the ECU guys are saying. They are talking about the problem with turning a BK ECU into a Busa by flash and how it wacks the guages, so if thats they case it doenst make sense that you can put an ECU on it that started life as Busa unit.

I havent compared pinouts between em, just curious whats what.

Seems if just putting the Busa ECU in place worked, then the ECU guys wouldnt have to translate guage data
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Re: bking motor fit
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2010, 07:06:35 AM »
Yeh, I know you can flash it, but the thread is inconsistent with what it sounds like the ECU guys are saying. They are talking about the problem with turning a BK ECU into a Busa by flash and how it wacks the guages, so if thats they case it doenst make sense that you can put an ECU on it that started life as Busa unit.

I havent compared pinouts between em, just curious whats what.

Seems if just putting the Busa ECU in place worked, then the ECU guys wouldnt have to translate guage data

For all the testing I am doing the Bking code works on Busa ECU and I would assume the same.

But if you just do an engine swap without changing the ecu then should be no problem, i take engine from either and run it in nother. By that I mean keep the ECU & gaugecluster always as a pair - or at least reflash BKing code for Bking gauges or Busa code for Busa gauges, untill we have hacked the cross use of the gauges.




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Re: bking motor fit
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2010, 04:20:55 PM »
its a pain in the ass to swap an ECU on the B-King so I probably never will.


Easy to remove ecu  remove seat, take out the battery & go in under the tank at the rear to remove the ecu
no need to remove the tank at all
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Re: bking motor fit
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2010, 12:34:46 AM »
its a pain in the ass to swap an ECU on the B-King so I probably never will.


Easy to remove ecu  remove seat, take out the battery & go in under the tank at the rear to remove the ecu
no need to remove the tank at all

I had to remove the exhaust valve motor to get out the ECU.
How did you do that without taking the tank off?
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Re: bking motor fit
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2010, 12:52:40 AM »
I was sad to hear you sold your project b-king. I was looking forward to your developing that bike into quite a monster.

But like the others here have said, the ECU is cake to remove. remove connectors.  Then remove the tool kit, take out the battery and sensor. The ECU slids right out. Maybe 5 minutes.

Not a GSXR, but easy enough.

Why did you seel your B-King. It was 1441 for christ sake!

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Re: bking motor fit
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2010, 04:50:55 AM »
I was sad to hear you sold your project b-king. I was looking forward to your developing that bike into quite a monster.

But like the others here have said, the ECU is cake to remove. remove connectors.  Then remove the tool kit, take out the battery and sensor. The ECU slids right out. Maybe 5 minutes.

Not a GSXR, but easy enough.

Why did you seel your B-King. It was 1441 for christ sake!

I guess i went in the wrong way :)

And it was a 1507 ........  :)


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