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World off Speed results
« on: September 12, 2009, 05:34:59 PM »
I will get this started now. We hit the road for Bonneville tomorrow 6am. Start racing Wednesday. I will try to post what I know in the evening. Hopefully others will get updates.

  Fred
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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2009, 05:40:06 PM »
Fred are looking do better than your last time a few weeks ago
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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2009, 07:51:35 PM »
I hope so. Lots of changes to the bike, biggest is Ti Force Sumo and a fresh JC tune. :D I will be running 1350 APS-G.

  Fred
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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2009, 08:18:49 PM »
Quote from: fvance on September 12, 2009, 07:51:35 PM
I hope so. Lots of changes to the bike, biggest is Ti Force Sumo and a fresh JC tune. :D I will be running 1350 APS-G.

  Fred


We ran a Katana in the P/P 1350 class at Speed Week in 1988 and managed to get the record.  The motor was built all out, almost to Pro Stock specifications.  But the bike was severely restricted with its stock exhaust and 34 mm CV carbs.  We installed a VHR 4 into 1 and put a set of Mikuni Flatslide carburetors (either 38 or 40 mm, can’t remember) after the record runs were done just to see how restricted we were.  We picked up 12 MPH on the first pass without any tuning.  I’m aware of that you have done extensive testing with your “stock” exhaust system but would expect you to pick up some speed with the Sumo if the conditions are good.  Best of luck.

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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2009, 02:28:06 PM »
Quote from: Wolf1397 on September 13, 2009, 08:18:49 PM
Quote from: fvance on September 12, 2009, 07:51:35 PM
I hope so. Lots of changes to the bike, biggest is Ti Force Sumo and a fresh JC tune. :D I will be running 1350 APS-G.

  Fred


We ran a Katana in the P/P 1350 class at Speed Week in 1988 and managed to get the record.  The motor was built all out, almost to Pro Stock specifications.  But the bike was severely restricted with its stock exhaust and 34 mm CV carbs.  We installed a VHR 4 into 1 and put a set of Mikuni Flatslide carburetors (either 38 or 40 mm, can’t remember) after the record runs were done just to see how restricted we were.  We picked up 12 MPH on the first pass without any tuning.  I’m aware of that you have done extensive testing with your “stock” exhaust system but would expect you to pick up some speed with the Sumo if the conditions are good.  Best of luck.

Patric

The Gen 1 Busa stock exhaust is what gave me fits.  With my build, the wHP will climb to redline (10,800), but the wTQ  just flattens off above 10,200 .. I removed the stock exhaust and tested a Brock Street that wasn’t in the best condition and picked almost 5 ft lbs above 10,000 .. right where you need it.

However, on the bright side of things, I do believe my ‘Busa has another 4 mph in her with the correct gearing and little more seat time with the rings.
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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2009, 07:05:22 PM »
Rain, rain, please go away!!
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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2009, 09:26:39 AM »
Quote from: fvance on September 12, 2009, 05:34:59 PM
I will get this started now. We hit the road for Bonneville tomorrow 6am. Start racing Wednesday. I will try to post what I know in the evening. Hopefully others will get updates.

  Fred

Fred, you be safe.  The salt can be awfully tricky with that much moisture under it.
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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2009, 12:05:11 PM »
How about an update on your results Mr. Vance??
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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2009, 01:13:51 PM »
Posted by Larry forstall on lr.com

Picture is Fred Vance qualifying on the APS-G 1350 record (210.132) with a 213+ run. Life begins at 65 and Fred is making this LSR stuff look way too easy. WTG Fred
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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2009, 01:21:04 PM »
Just got a call from Ryan (Osti33) at World of Speed.

After arriving on Mon night at Bonneville from Chicago to water, water, everywhere, the sun came out and things have dramatically improved for Osti.

On his 1st pass he hit 217.98? on a 214.??? record !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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He is in impound right this minute, and will run the course the other way as soon as the sun comes up tomorrow.

WAY TO FUKKEN GO, RYAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2009, 01:58:19 PM »
The "Boys" are doing us proud. Go get it tomorrow Fred & Ryan.  :thumb:  LSL
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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2009, 02:10:50 PM »
Frickin' fantastic Ryan, 217 on nuts, on the salt, WTFG man.  :thumb:
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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2009, 02:29:17 PM »
What class is Osti running in?
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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2009, 02:36:23 PM »
Osti is in MPS-F 1650 but he is running non-event gas.  LSL
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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2009, 04:57:49 PM »
Just got back from the salt, Mark Deluca qualified at 226+ was headed for impound Im pretty sure. Way to go Ryan. Both Amo bros are in impound. Nancy W. qualified their 1650 production ZX14 at 204+, John Stege(sp) 1350 side car streamliner /busa ran a 215 or so, not sure, record.

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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2009, 08:24:03 PM »
Joe Amo qualified with a 249 pass on his 1000!  Alfricking rigght  :thumb:
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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2009, 10:23:53 PM »
Great to see he finally has the handling working for him , realy starting to reap the rewards of all his efforts  :thumb:
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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2009, 10:48:08 AM »
Mark DeLuca ran 245.393 MPH  :shock: on his return run this morning. GPS showed 248 hitting the limiter midway throught the mile. And we thought the 237 at Loring was amazing. Bonneville is at 4200' altitude. The bike used non-oxygenated VP race gas, the cylinder head was a Carpenter stock valve CNC port job, the exhaust was a Murray big tube sidewinder. Team Forstall-Knecum-DeLuca, the N/A kings.  8)
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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2009, 10:49:51 AM »
Quote from: Landspeed Larry on September 19, 2009, 10:48:08 AM
Mark DeLuca ran 245.393 MPH  :shock: on his return run this morning. GPS showed 248 hitting the limiter midway throught the mile. And we thought the 237 at Loring was amazing. Bonneville is at 4200' altitude. The bike used non-oxygenated VP race gas, the cylinder head was a Carpenter stock valve CNC port job, the exhaust was a Murray big tube sidewinder. Team Forstall-Knecum-DeLuca, the N/A kings.  8)

Wow Larry! Awesome!
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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2009, 11:03:20 AM »
What an amazing performance, congrats to Larry, Mark & Steve  :thumb:         (stock valve size!!??  wow)
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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2009, 12:01:12 PM »
Posted by Jon Amo on LR.com;

Joe Amo's down run was 248.4 mph and returned at 254.96 mph for a 251.718 record on a 1000cc APS-BF



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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2009, 03:47:07 PM »
Quote from: Landspeed Larry on September 19, 2009, 10:48:08 AM
Mark DeLuca ran 245.393 MPH  :shock: on his return run this morning. GPS showed 248 hitting the limiter midway throught the mile. And we thought the 237 at Loring was amazing. Bonneville is at 4200' altitude. The bike used non-oxygenated VP race gas, the cylinder head was a Carpenter stock valve CNC port job, the exhaust was a Murray big tube sidewinder. Team Forstall-Knecum-DeLuca, the N/A kings.  8)

Congratulations guys. That is just an unbelievable speed out of a N/A motor, especially at that DA.  I bet you got that cylinder head gasket sealed up though…  :D
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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2009, 03:49:01 PM »
Quote from: zrxdean on September 19, 2009, 12:01:12 PM
Posted by Jon Amo on LR.com;

Joe Amo's down run was 248.4 mph and returned at 254.96 mph for a 251.718 record on a 1000cc APS-BF



 :shock:  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Another amazing speed out of a 1000 cc bike.  Congrats to you as well.   :thumb:
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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2009, 03:52:54 PM »
Way to go guys! Fred, I relly enjoy seeing you older guys out living life!
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Re: World off Speed results
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2009, 02:29:16 PM »
Big congrats for Mark DeLuca & team getting 245mph allmotor.
That is incredible.
Are there any pics of the bike?
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