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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #50 on: December 31, 2010, 07:18:21 AM »
I know I've asked you this before but have you got your plenum yet?

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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #51 on: December 31, 2010, 07:59:22 AM »
If the gixxer rear disc is the same as the gen2, then I'd say that be the way to go. But then again, it might be the left to right spacing, instead up the up and down spacing, that might by why you don't see gen 2's running around with 1k wheels. But anything is possible.  :D take one for the gen2 team!  :hys:  :thumb:

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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #52 on: December 31, 2010, 08:00:21 AM »
I know I've asked you this before but have you got your plenum yet?

Not yet! I will when i get it!
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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #53 on: December 31, 2010, 08:01:53 AM »
If the gixxer rear disc is the same as the gen2, then I'd say that be the way to go. But then again, it might be the left to right spacing, instead up the up and down spacing, that might by why you don't see gen 2's running around with 1k wheels. But anything is possible.  :D take one for the gen2 team!  :hys:  :thumb:

Oh yeah i will let you how they fit and what all i have to do. first i have to start hacking on my swingarm now that its all apart. once im done hacking and welding on swingarm then i will start to fit the wheels on!  :thumb:
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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #54 on: December 31, 2010, 08:05:14 AM »
You ordered one from Dennis?

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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #55 on: January 03, 2011, 12:40:02 PM »
Lookin' good!  What compression are you going to run?
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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #56 on: January 04, 2011, 08:19:41 AM »
Im thinking somewhere from 8.7 to 9.0 to 1.
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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #57 on: January 04, 2011, 10:13:08 AM »
Im thinking somewhere from 8.7 to 9.0 to 1.

You're going to run e85?  If so, take advantage of it and bump up the compression, especially since you're going intercooled!  I wish there was an easy way to go 10:1 with shelf parts.  Even 11:1 if intercooled.
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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #58 on: January 11, 2011, 07:53:39 PM »
What's the latest? Any more progress?
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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #59 on: January 27, 2011, 02:30:56 PM »
What's the latest? Any more progress?
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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #60 on: July 18, 2011, 10:41:51 PM »
Well here is an update of what all im doing now! Got the frame and swingarm powder coated gloss black!




Went to RCC fuel rail and 85lb injectors with 2 pumps. a walbro and an 044! Im shooting to break the 500hp mark with e85! So i upgraded the turbo to the .82 t3t4e 60 trim bb turbo as to still fit the header. A/W plenum, carillo rods, woessner pistons, crank lightened and balanced by APE, ss valves, 65lb valve springs, main studs n head studs, hd shift shafts, gen1 shift forks and eventually a slider clutch!
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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #61 on: July 20, 2011, 05:07:36 PM »
Look what i got in the mail today!  :twisted:
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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #62 on: July 20, 2011, 06:59:01 PM »
Looks familiar. I know your excited.

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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #63 on: July 20, 2011, 07:50:25 PM »
Looks familiar. I know your excited.
Yep I'm now just waiting for crank to get lightened and balanced by APE!
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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #64 on: July 20, 2011, 07:51:49 PM »
Oh and air to water plenum and water pump and heat exchanger!
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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #65 on: July 20, 2011, 08:10:54 PM »
Awesome. I didn't get them balanced crank tho. May I ask why two fuel pumps?

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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #66 on: July 20, 2011, 08:44:25 PM »
Awesome. I didn't get them balanced crank tho. May I ask why two fuel pumps?

"Im shooting to break the 500hp mark with e85"

it sill need alot of fuel flow to do that. Can be done with 2 pumps, but I assume it is an in tank walbro feeding the 044 for space reasons.
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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #67 on: July 20, 2011, 10:08:16 PM »
Yep because rob Kelly only made 450 with an aerotive big pump! I already had both pumps before starting to shoot for e85. I was using the walbro for up to about 9psi. Then found a good deal for a genuine Bosch 044 for when I was going to only for 500hp with just race gas and didn't need the fuel as much. Thus I'm going to use them both in conjunction by a hobbs switch at 10psi+ to make sure I'm getting as much fuel flow as I can! According to my math it might get to maybe 650hp while using e85 and that's not if my 1130cc's of injectors per cylinder runs out first! That's why I'm building the crap out of the fuel system! 
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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #68 on: July 21, 2011, 06:05:09 AM »
I gtocha.

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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #69 on: July 22, 2011, 12:06:10 AM »
Looking forward to more updates...where is the A/W plenum?  ;)
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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #70 on: July 22, 2011, 08:45:35 AM »
Looking forward to more updates...where is the A/W plenum?  ;)
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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #71 on: August 09, 2011, 08:53:33 PM »
What's the advantage of the ECU EDITOR over a microtech besides being cheap?
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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #72 on: August 10, 2011, 07:04:43 AM »
I believe you have more tuning capabilities and can control more things via the ecu like raising the rev limiter and removing the speed restriction, just to name a few.

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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #73 on: August 10, 2011, 08:08:09 AM »
What's the advantage of the ECU EDITOR over a microtech besides being cheap?

It is certainly less cost, but also, less on the bike (injectors, fuel rail, extra fuel lines, secondary computer, etc).  If you are building from scratch, it is likely the way to go. If you already have a working secondary setup, probably not going to see any differences to go to internal.

Current downside is the limit on boost being that of a 3 bar sensor. The groundwork for a 5 bar sensor option is on place, just not implemented into the code. Also, tuning can be a long process as it is not able to be done without powering down and re-flashing, rather than reflashing on the fly.
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Re: 08 Turbo Busa Goal of 500HP with ecueditor only!
« Reply #74 on: August 10, 2011, 11:17:06 AM »
What's the advantage of the ECU EDITOR over a microtech besides being cheap?

It is certainly less cost, but also, less on the bike (injectors, fuel rail, extra fuel lines, secondary computer, etc).  If you are building from scratch, it is likely the way to go. If you already have a working secondary setup, probably not going to see any differences to go to internal.

Current downside is the limit on boost being that of a 3 bar sensor. The groundwork for a 5 bar sensor option is on place, just not implemented into the code. Also, tuning can be a long process as it is not able to be done without powering down and re-flashing, rather than reflashing on the fly.
good explanation, I'm also guessing it is most beneficial on a GEN 2 due to having the 8 injector ect.? I don't understand how all the ECU internals work but I'm assumming they work as reliable flashed as they come from the factory. Def an incentive to turbo a GEN 2. I like both the GEN 1 and GEN 2 equally so it wouldn't matter to me but I do like the fact of having less stuff on the bike
« Last Edit: August 10, 2011, 11:50:34 AM by ACE23 »
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