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so i did the strut ....guess what
« on: March 30, 2010, 05:21:37 PM »
check this shit out,,, i put the strut on ok not bad at all on a 1 to 10 scale i give it a 7,,,so i make some passes with it ,them im bout to race my buds 1000 when i hit 3rd i feel like my brake is sticking,so i hit it more THEN my left foot hits the groung &flies out to the side ,when i pull the clutch the bike comes to a hault!!! well guess what the links broke sending the tire into the fender .....fuct up ey...nothing majorly screwd just scraped for the most part ...had this happened to anyone with anytype of lwrng links with the strut? i fixed it quick ,made some links myself out of steel...........from experience what else should i look for as far as breaking with the strut? will the shit hold up? i rode with the steel links & did great but i had to pull that one outta the sleve what else should i expect from the srut?
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2010, 05:46:06 PM »
You are starting to understand why suspension was invented.
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2010, 05:46:19 PM »
Just a cracked subframe is all, nothing major.   :?
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2010, 06:01:26 PM »
If ya make the links stronger something else is going to give, cause there is no movement in a shock any more with the stiff strut and all the shock from bumps on the road go some were.

Glad ya didn't cause more damage cause of it breaking your links.  :thumb:
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2010, 08:02:02 PM »
yeah thanxs guys the part that i didnt mention was thas i was getting out o work to lunch doing 100 plus triying to pass a  coworker killing my buddy and started noticing the bike was slowing down ...im just gratefull to GOD that te bike didnt get sideways wich would have been terminal...& that the buddy behind me always watches my ass & stopped ...the steel links have held up good so far,i got bout 4 hrs of street time,7 passes & 170 mph on em wich is more than the other links held they preety much lasted 10 miles  to work & a few passes then broke at lunch scary...now im kinda skeptical about the strut ,for now ill inspect when i get off bike.......please strut users can you share  experiences pros & cons and if youve had broken parts with the strut :thumb:before iill myself



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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2010, 10:33:29 PM »
The aluminum 3-hole type links have a history of braking.
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2010, 10:40:53 PM »
Quote from: moparict on March 30, 2010, 10:33:29 PM
The aluminum 3-hole type links have a history of braking.

Really? I have never seen them break
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2010, 10:43:18 PM »
Why would you run a strut on a streetbike that has no significant poser mods that sometimes require a strut (such as an extremely wide tire kit)?
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2010, 11:45:02 PM »
Quote from: sportbikeryder on March 30, 2010, 10:43:18 PM
Why would you run a strut on a streetbike that has no significant poser mods that sometimes require a strut (such as an extremely wide tire kit)?

Or even appear to be low enough to require one from what the picture looks like.
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2010, 11:33:27 AM »
Quote from: moparict on March 30, 2010, 10:33:29 PM
The aluminum 3-hole type links have a history of braking.


Don't want to hear that I have a 5 hole on mine
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2010, 06:25:47 PM »
well the major reason is that i am 300lb 6 ft just a little ovweight :thumb: and the way it was on the picture it would bottom out every other bump( still had the shock),also my wife loves to ride and i know it wouldent work with the shock,i also as well love the low look.
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2010, 06:27:30 PM »
Quote from: Reverend Ron on March 31, 2010, 11:33:27 AM
Quote from: moparict on March 30, 2010, 10:33:29 PM
The aluminum 3-hole type links have a history of braking.


Don't want to hear that I have a 5 hole on mine



rev ron do you run a strut as well?
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2010, 06:31:04 PM »
Quote from: sportbikeryder on March 30, 2010, 10:40:53 PM
Quote from: moparict on March 30, 2010, 10:33:29 PM
The aluminum 3-hole type links have a history of braking.

Really? I have never seen them break


This is one post I found that I can remember, but I'm sure I remember more.  Maybe I'm wrong, but I will stick with my adjustables.

http://www.extremebusa.com/extreme/brakes-suspension-modifications-gen1b/10803-important-anyone-who-cut-last-hole-links.html
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2010, 06:44:41 PM »
deeemeeet mopatric that brings flashbacks step bu step what happened to me ,too bad you cant see the pix,,i guess the alum link are breakable under all the right circumstances,what i would like to know is if now that my links are thick steel and wont give...will the fwd frame mount,center bellcrank,and the swingarm mount hold?????....done deal with them great post
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2010, 06:47:19 PM »
Quote from: moparict on March 31, 2010, 06:31:04 PM
Quote from: sportbikeryder on March 30, 2010, 10:40:53 PM
Quote from: moparict on March 30, 2010, 10:33:29 PM
The aluminum 3-hole type links have a history of braking.

Really? I have never seen them break


This is one post I found that I can remember, but I'm sure I remember more.  Maybe I'm wrong, but I will stick with my adjustables.

http://www.extremebusa.com/extreme/brakes-suspension-modifications-gen1b/10803-important-anyone-who-cut-last-hole-links.html


If the bottom of the link is cut off, it is much weaker. The link in the post broke because the owner cut off the part of the link that prevents it from doing what it did. Just putting it in the upper holes is not good enough if the bottom is cut off.
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2010, 07:06:08 PM »
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2010, 07:13:26 PM »
Quote from: busaBuster on March 31, 2010, 07:06:08 PM


Did you remove the material below the lower hole on purpose?
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2010, 07:20:53 PM »
Quote from: Reverend Ron on March 31, 2010, 11:33:27 AM
Quote from: moparict on March 30, 2010, 10:33:29 PM
The aluminum 3-hole type links have a history of braking.


Don't want to hear that I have a 5 hole on mine
You have a 5 hole?  :hys:
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2010, 07:22:47 PM »
Quote from: busaBuster on March 30, 2010, 05:21:37 PM

check this shit out,,, i put the strut on ok not bad at all on a 1 to 10 scale i give it a 7,,,so i make some passes with it ,them im bout to race my buds 1000 when i hit 3rd i feel like my brake is sticking,so i hit it more THEN my left foot hits the groung &flies out to the side ,when i pull the clutch the bike comes to a hault!!! well guess what the links broke sending the tire into the fender .....fuct up ey...nothing majorly screwd just scraped for the most part ...had this happened to anyone with anytype of lwrng links with the strut? i fixed it quick ,made some links myself out of steel...........from experience what else should i look for as far as breaking with the strut? will the shit hold up? i rode with the steel links & did great but i had to pull that one outta the sleve what else should i expect from the srut?


And now you know why no one does LSR with this type of equipment.

Glad you made it out alright. Safety first, Brother. Fun second.
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2010, 07:23:51 PM »
yup just like the instructions say to do to fit ....either way im sure if never cut ,it only uses the in between material for support...the other holes would have made no diff.,,,when it was time to break it would just fall in the next hole.................huuuum i would at leaast had 2 chances to notice something was wrong
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2010, 07:25:33 PM »
Quote from: Cookie on March 31, 2010, 07:20:53 PM
Quote from: Reverend Ron on March 31, 2010, 11:33:27 AM
Quote from: moparict on March 30, 2010, 10:33:29 PM
The aluminum 3-hole type links have a history of braking.


Don't want to hear that I have a 5 hole on mine
You have a 5 hole?  :hys:
nope bro 3 hole.....theres a 5 car long tire burn mark at work my buddys thought i was seriously was gonna die
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2010, 07:27:19 PM »
Quote from: Cookie on March 31, 2010, 07:20:53 PM
Quote from: Reverend Ron on March 31, 2010, 11:33:27 AM
Quote from: moparict on March 30, 2010, 10:33:29 PM
The aluminum 3-hole type links have a history of braking.


Don't want to hear that I have a 5 hole on mine
You have a 5 hole?  :hys:
shiiiiit now is a 1 hole link :hys:
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2010, 07:32:19 PM »
Quote from: busaBuster on March 31, 2010, 07:27:19 PM
Quote from: Cookie on March 31, 2010, 07:20:53 PM
Quote from: Reverend Ron on March 31, 2010, 11:33:27 AM
Quote from: moparict on March 30, 2010, 10:33:29 PM
The aluminum 3-hole type links have a history of braking.


Don't want to hear that I have a 5 hole on mine
You have a 5 hole?  :hys:
shiiiiit now is a 1 hole link :hys:
Just be safe, Bro, number one!  :wink:
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2010, 07:40:49 PM »
this is how it sits now with the steel and so it did with the pingel


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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2010, 08:44:23 PM »
The Forstall/Delucca/ Knecum bike that went 245 at Bonneville last year is rigid. Lots of LSR bike are.

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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2010, 11:53:52 PM »
Okay,, hit me. What does a strut look like.
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2010, 07:57:16 PM »
this is exactly what i have on


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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2010, 12:29:12 AM »
It looks like it would five one Hell of a hard ride?  :?
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2010, 07:40:48 AM »
its really not that bad believe it or not i wasnt a buyer either untill i put it on from 1 to 10 i give it a 7...i give stock a 9 its not as bad as you would think
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2010, 11:29:04 AM »
Honestly I think I would just get a new shock spring to match my weight, you can lower it good if you have proper sag. Course I am a big beliver even a bit over zelous about proper suspention. Curves are not forgiving and I live to ride them so I need the correct suspention, this winter I am going to redo my forks on the B king to get it just right.
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2010, 10:32:51 PM »
Ya know you could just get a heavier spring.
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2010, 09:38:04 PM »
Quote from: Quijinn on April 02, 2010, 11:29:04 AM
Honestly I think I would just get a new shock spring to match my weight, you can lower it good if you have proper sag. Course I am a big beliver even a bit over zelous about proper suspention. Curves are not forgiving and I live to ride them so I need the correct suspention, this winter I am going to redo my forks on the B king to get it just right.
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2011, 01:56:08 PM »
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2011, 02:41:45 PM »
this is why we revalve shocks.
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #35 on: May 24, 2011, 07:08:41 PM »
How about making links out of good steel. Christ....will an extra 2 lbs hurt that much? :lol:
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2011, 07:57:41 PM »
Yup,made each link double & riveted toguether...no more issues after that....kinda got tired of the strut guys,so lost 70 lbs over the winter so im going to stock shock & lowered soon here...no more messing with that.....
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #37 on: May 25, 2011, 06:39:28 AM »
Good for you man. That sounds like the best solution, plus your faster now :)
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« Reply #38 on: May 25, 2011, 09:34:44 AM »
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2011, 07:25:03 AM »
how low are you going to drop it ?
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #40 on: May 27, 2011, 08:44:20 AM »
Lowering links...and triple tree clamp
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #41 on: May 27, 2011, 08:30:13 PM »
sorry didnt quite catch the message while at work.....uuummmm im going to shoot for the same look that it has right now with the stut, while im sitting on it with the shock then....shouldnt be big deal...
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Re: so i did the strut ....guess what
« Reply #42 on: November 19, 2011, 03:36:13 AM »
Yeah, putting the correct spring on it for your weight is going to be much safer than the hill-billy set-up you nearly killed yourself with.  But I don't see any mention of the front suspension.  The front suspension on the Hayabusa hugely under-sprung, even for normal-sized riders.

Here is a link to a spring rate tutorial that I have had stickied here for five years, in the hopes of preventing the loss of life that you almost experienced:

http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/forum/index.php?topic=85774.0
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