DreamRyder Crash

[gsxrdan]

Very glad to hear you're ok.Tires at low pressure have always worried me.Time to hear from some site sponsor or shinko dealers.This should be looked into asap before the worst happens.Lots of sponsors talking when they were trying to sell them,not much now!!!!!

[sportbikeryder]

Glad you are relatively Ok Eunice.

What was the tire pressure on teh tire? Stock rim or aftermarket? Width?

John

[murderedout07]

He runs 190/50/17, on an rc wheel I belive it is.

E, don't be shy if ya need anything, I'll be glad to help. I'll be heading over tonight to help nem swap parts onto the back up bike.

As for the tires, everyone that has one of these should probably take them off, and demand a refund, or exchange for an U-soft...a tire that's been around for a long time with a good history. There's just no reason for this. Kinda tells me there wasn't enough r&d put into the tire befor it was releases on the market. If it was one person that went down, okay maybe... But 3 in 3 weeks, somthings definitly wrong.

[mrultra1300r]

man!.............glad to here you are ok...... but if you keep up the crashing(not your fault i know) we'r gonna have to put some skateboards on the side of your bike.j/k

[Cycle Concepts]

tire pressure?

[BATTMAN]

There are many unknown factors here.  I think its too soon to blame it on the tire.  Im not a shinko dealer, so Im not defending them.  All Im saying is that there are more factors that could have contributed to the mishap.  Just to be on the safe side, shinko should look in to it though.

[murderedout07]

I disagree battman. One person went down, one person had the tire come off the rim, and several people have reported the tire spinning on the rim. If you look at posts from just a few months ago when the tires first came out, people were reporting the tire spinning on the rim. To top it off, it's not like the people that reported problems are the average weekend racer, it's from well known experienced racers. I was workin on nems bike last night with him, and you can clearly see what happened to the tire. Shinko needs to make a statement befor someone elses machine gets torn up, or even worse someone gets killed.

[BATTMAN]

Im not defending the shinko tires.  I dont know the whole story.  All Im saying is before we put shinko tires on blast like that, we should be for sure.  The internet is a powerful tool.  The same thing happened with JE pistons awhile back.  A few people got on here and said those pistons were bad and all of a sudden, no one wanted to buy them.  If you look at most of the top racers last year, most of them were running JE pistons.  There are still alot of racers out here running that tire with no issues.  There are alot of racers that crashed with Mickey tires too.  There are alot of racers that crashed with Michelins, dunlops, and other brands. Do we know for sure the tire was the cause?  Is it a bad batch or is it a bad design all together?  Has anyone contacted Shinko yet? There are alot of questions and not enough answers.

Post some pics of the rim and tire.  I feel bad for what happened to E.  Im glad that it wasnt worse.

[dadofthree]

That's a messed up vid, scary as hell, you almost seemed completely sideways. Get well soon.

[BATTMAN]

There is a thread on the other board about issues with the hookup tire.  majority of the racers said it was a great tire and that they will continue to use it.  these are bikes that are doing 170 plus in the quarter.

[Cycle Concepts]

Im not defending the shinko tires.  I dont know the whole story.  All Im saying is before we put shinko tires on blast like that, we should be for sure.  The internet is a powerful tool.  The same thing happened with JE pistons awhile back.  A few people got on here and said those pistons were bad and all of a sudden, no one wanted to buy them.  If you look at most of the top racers last year, most of them were running JE pistons.  There are still alot of racers out here running that tire with no issues.  There are alot of racers that crashed with Mickey tires too.  There are alot of racers that crashed with Michelins, dunlops, and other brands. Do we know for sure the tire was the cause?  Is it a bad batch or is it a bad design all together?  Has anyone contacted Shinko yet? There are alot of questions and not enough answers.

Post some pics of the rim and tire.  I feel bad for what happened to E.  Im glad that it wasnt worse.

You make alot of valid points in your statement..I sell the tire but in no way I'm I gonna defend Shinko because it's not my place to but I will say that there are people that will look to blame their short coming and mishap on something or someone else is a heartbeat and this statement is in no way directed at Nem or Eunice...Nem and Eunice I feel really bad for you guys and I'm glad that this did not end up much worse than it did...Thank God for that!! but there are a couple questions that I have for you Nem:

1) how much pressure were you running in that tire?
2) were you running RC wheels?
3) can we see a close up pic of the rim with the tire off?

After looking at the video several times, it appeared that Eunice was up on the sidewall of the tire/rim for quite awhile before it went crazy.

[Quijinn]

First I want to say I am so glad you are ok E. You did one hell of a job in a very short period of time to low side that bike, that was a nasty high side waiting to happen. I cant believe you didn't get tossed at the first cross up it looked like a full 90* slide. Very good job and very glad your ok.




I dont know how a tire spinning on the rim is a indication of a bad tire? Take alot of power, great track prep, low pressure and a tire is going to spin. Its why bead locks where invented, cars been dealing with spinning tires on rims for years. I am not saying it isn't a bad tire but the spinning is just a indication of how good its hooking up. I am curious is side wall belts are breaking because of the hard launches, would be very likely.

[ft campbell busa]

Glad your ok. I was not nearly travelling as fast but I had this occur with a different tire. This was very scarey and my first thought was that my pan had busted and got oil under the tire. I thank God I was only running in the 1/8th and the scarey portion of the ride started right as I was hitting the traps and was gettign ready to slow up anyway. I did not lay the bike down but it was a miracle. After that I got another rim just in case and put a Shinko Hook up on. May go with a P1 after reading this now.

[sportbikeryder]

Glad your ok. I was not nearly travelling as fast but I had this occur with a different tire. This was very scarey and my first thought was that my pan had busted and got oil under the tire. I thank God I was only running in the 1/8th and the scarey portion of the ride started right as I was hitting the traps and was gettign ready to slow up anyway. I did not lay the bike down but it was a miracle. After that I got another rim just in case and put a Shinko Hook up on. May go with a P1 after reading this now.

What wheel, tire, and pressure were you running when this happened.

Eunice, not trying to jack the post about your crash (although I am sure you don;t mind people changing the subject about that  ), just trying to gather information about this and all other tire issues.

John

[Pat Dietrich]

On first gen busa, i would mark the tire everytime I went to the track and it had a usoft. It would move around 3inches after about 8 passes everytime. Evertime the track hooked I should say. That was a 1397, so if the turbo bikes are not screwing them in, i couldnt imagine how far they are moving.
E- has some guts for sure. It would take 1 time like that for me and i would be done for sure. Glad your fine Dream!

[boxsterr1]

I posted this under Hook up tire issues, please read it

I have tried to stay out of this but this is to me crazy.  I know of 2 people racing Pro Street Bikes in the begining of May, both bikes are built and tuned by 2 of the top guys around with in a weeks time both used thenHook Up tire.  One never even made it a inch, the rim spun on the tire , smoking the rubber against the rim, at least 3 more passes were made and it spun the rim bad, some of the passes it left the line and spun the rim bad up top.  All the passes made were with more than enough air pressure, the last pass had 12lbs.  This tire was put on by someone at the track and had all the correct machines to do so.

the other bike was at what most think the best hooking track in the country and again had more than enough air pressure in the tire, his bke had the same thing happen as the girl who crashed happen.  The tire came off the rim.  The rider was able to keep the bike up and some how very little damage came about this

For those wondering both bikes were not the same make of wheels

I saw the first part of my post first hand as I was 4 ft from the bike, it looked totally strange, Trae came up and said man he spun the rim bad on that pass.   So anyone who runs this tiire on a high HP bike is taking a chance  on their own safety and life. Bikes can be replaced, riders cant.

No way no how would I ever put this tire on a PST bike, guys think about it, to many issues already have happened.   I dont want to post a negative response but I have read to much and this to me is crazy.

One more PST had issues I know of but I dont know the full details so I wont comment on something that I dont know to be fully true, but for sure he had some majors issues as well.

I dont go on PB as I dont agree with the person who runs that site, so if a post is started over this topic please feel free to post what I have stated as this is 100% accurate info.


Timbo


This is happened to now at least 3 different wheels, air pressures were not to low as a some have thought, if someone thinks this is a one off issue you are mistaken, it for sure is not.  I for one really dont understand why anyone would consider running this tire on a dragbike with high HP and maybe even one with not so much HP, I would not put myself at risk if I had any of this info that is now coming out.  For those who run it all I can say is your are putting yourself at risk and I wish only that the racers remain safe.  For people who are none na sayers, this tire has a issue and thats the bottom line

[murderedout07]

Amen boxsterr.

[richiestires]

Sorry to hear about your crash, but glad you are ok. I believe the same thing happened on Ronnies bike, Bud made a pass with one of those tires and it came off the rim.

      Richard

Hi Richard
This is the first i've heard of Ronniie trying the Shinko.I know he running the Michelin though

[richiestires]

I posted this under Hook up tire issues, please read it

I have tried to stay out of this but this is to me crazy.  I know of 2 people racing Pro Street Bikes in the begining of May, both bikes are built and tuned by 2 of the top guys around with in a weeks time both used thenHook Up tire.  One never even made it a inch, the rim spun on the tire , smoking the rubber against the rim, at least 3 more passes were made and it spun the rim bad, some of the passes it left the line and spun the rim bad up top.  All the passes made were with more than enough air pressure, the last pass had 12lbs.  This tire was put on by someone at the track and had all the correct machines to do so.

the other bike was at what most think the best hooking track in the country and again had more than enough air pressure in the tire, his bke had the same thing happen as the girl who crashed happen.  The tire came off the rim.  The rider was able to keep the bike up and some how very little damage came about this

For those wondering both bikes were not the same make of wheels

I saw the first part of my post first hand as I was 4 ft from the bike, it looked totally strange, Trae came up and said man he spun the rim bad on that pass.   So anyone who runs this tiire on a high HP bike is taking a chance  on their own safety and life. Bikes can be replaced, riders cant.

No way no how would I ever put this tire on a PST bike, guys think about it, to many issues already have happened.   I dont want to post a negative response but I have read to much and this to me is crazy.

One more PST had issues I know of but I dont know the full details so I wont comment on something that I dont know to be fully true, but for sure he had some majors issues as well.

I dont go on PB as I dont agree with the person who runs that site, so if a post is started over this topic please feel free to post what I have stated as this is 100% accurate info.


Timbo


This is happened to now at least 3 different wheels, air pressures were not to low as a some have thought, if someone thinks this is a one off issue you are mistaken, it for sure is not.  I for one really dont understand why anyone would consider running this tire on a dragbike with high HP and maybe even one with not so much HP, I would not put myself at risk if I had any of this info that is now coming out.  For those who run it all I can say is your are putting yourself at risk and I wish only that the racers remain safe.  For people who are none na sayers, this tire has a issue and thats the bottom line

TIMBO
Thanks for the phone call today