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zrxdean · « **Reply #25 on:** August 16, 2010, 10:40:27 AM »

Quote from: fvance on August 16, 2010, 05:48:40 AM

Thanks everybody. Ryan snd a lot of people are having tire issues. Ryan got to 200 and lost traction. Biilly Shoemaker has ruined two tires, Papi the same, Pat Womack ruined his on the first run. Jackb750 set a record dont remember what. Thanks to Knecum for a good bullet, Larry forstall for his continuing support, Johnny Cheese for a great tune, Tiger Racing for some great parts.

Fred

This sucks about the tires - is it related to the new 'race tire' rule? Or is it something else? I heard the salt was in excellent condition. I wonder if all the tires with issues were brand new.

Keep kickin' ass Fred.

Stubbs · « **Reply #26 on:** August 16, 2010, 11:07:23 AM »

Great Job Fred!

Stubbs · « **Reply #27 on:** August 16, 2010, 11:26:28 AM »

this looks impressive for a 750...

3536B 750CC APS-F Ralph Hudson 202.721 204.523 206.232 154.040 113.246

Stubbs · « **Reply #28 on:** August 16, 2010, 11:32:46 AM »

heres the bike runs on long course yesterday as per the scta website..

268B 1350CC APS-BF Top One Oil Guthrie Amo 122.648 128.242 0.000 0.000 0.000
278B 1000CC A-G Stainless Steele Racing 152.514 152.678 153.691 155.283 155.566
730B 1350CC P-P FL Racing / Arredondo 197.110 198.973 200.432 197.231 180.070
731B 1000CC P-P Pit Bull / FL Racing 159.706 170.251 177.835 176.028 174.785
731B 1000CC P-P Pit Bull / FL Racing 177.200 176.495 174.970 176.048 174.515
731B 1000CC P-P Pit Bull / FL Racing 183.577 184.314 183.659 181.333 177.200
760B 750CC SCS-G Team McLeish Bros. 168.124 172.764 182.724 187.888 189.536
964B 1350CC M-BF Billy Shoemaker 168.059 165.066 175.172 178.091 178.497
964B 1350CC M-BF Billy Shoemaker 178.785 184.834 189.207 180.031 168.785
964B 1350CC M-BF Billy Shoemaker 193.515 197.867 199.217 197.394 196.614
970B 1000CC P-P Jamie 'Wagner 181.926 182.011 180.922 177.761 177.228
991B 1650CC P-P Big Blue 171.215 171.785 172.903 172.871 171.748
1152B 1350CC APS-G Downum Racing 185.446 187.152 188.292 120.354 63.808
1152B 1350CC APS-G Downum Racing 200.726 200.566 198.424 168.970 104.117
1930B 1350CC A-BF Doherty Trask 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 Turn Out
1974B 1350CC M-BF Womack - Sandin - Tudor Racing 181.539 195.382 202.958 205.545 209.125
2230B 1650CC P-P Steve Chappell 181.187 185.249 188.900 191.705 193.755
2230B 1650CC P-P Steve Chappell 188.143 188.875 187.535 187.035 186.363 still on gas at mile 7
2276B 1000CC MPS-G Scott Guthrie \ Parker 197.567 198.346 198.244 197.834 197.529
2276B 1000CC MPS-G Scott Guthrie \ Parker 196.432 196.326 193.178 195.545 197.717
2276B 1000CC MPS-G Scott Guthrie \ Parker 197.361 198.635 199.582 198.352 195.889
2722B 1350CC P-P J. Nelson - MDR - Air Tech 193.657 194.761 195.894 195.259 194.523
2722B 1350CC P-P J. Nelson - MDR - Air Tech 191.427 193.086 195.713 197.125 198.837
3536B 750CC APS-F Ralph Hudson 202.721 204.523 206.232 154.040 113.246
5511B 1000CC P-P Sir Speedy Honda 167.366 171.927 182.401 179.104 171.502
6002B 1350CC MPS-BF John Dobbs 207.788 216.785 230.649 219.956 206.959
6002B 1350CC MPS-BF John Dobbs 209.192 215.961 229.227 145.967 75.356
7607B 1650CC MPS-F Ostergard Racing 196.760 197.047 192.874 98.815 55.525
8228B 3000CC APS-PBG Bullit 162.183 164.483 180.709 166.190 140.376
8282B 1000CC APS-F Jim Hoogerhyde SFMC 205.901 207.375 209.647 209.516 207.444
8282B 1000CC APS-F Jim Hoogerhyde SFMC 201.445 202.621 201.252 200.447 202.174
9700B 1350CC P-P San Miguel Racing 198.524 199.205 200.495 201.058 201.902
9700B 1350CC P-P San Miguel Racing 198.618 199.576 201.003 201.270 201.259

Warp12 · « **Reply #29 on:** August 16, 2010, 12:09:47 PM »

Quote from: zrxdean on August 16, 2010, 10:40:27 AM

Quote from: fvance on August 16, 2010, 05:48:40 AM
Thanks everybody. Ryan snd a lot of people are having tire issues. Ryan got to 200 and lost traction. Biilly Shoemaker has ruined two tires, Papi the same, Pat Womack ruined his on the first run. Jackb750 set a record dont remember what. Thanks to Knecum for a good bullet, Larry forstall for his continuing support, Johnny Cheese for a great tune, Tiger Racing for some great parts.

Fred

This sucks about the tires - is it related to the new 'race tire' rule? Or is it something else? I heard the salt was in excellent condition. I wonder if all the tires with issues were brand new.

Keep kickin' ass Fred.

Why did they make the "racing tires" rule? Most racing tires are much softer than street tires, and degrade more quickly...

I can see not allowing certain tires, like Shinko 003's...but other than that, it seems like a bad rule.

Shane

knecum · « **Reply #30 on:** August 16, 2010, 12:49:41 PM »

exactly

Stubbs · « **Reply #31 on:** August 16, 2010, 12:53:31 PM »

Quote from: knecum on August 16, 2010, 12:49:41 PM

exactly

agreed 100%

zrxdean · « **Reply #32 on:** August 16, 2010, 01:06:06 PM »

Quote from: Warp12 on August 16, 2010, 12:09:47 PM

Quote from: zrxdean on August 16, 2010, 10:40:27 AM
Quote from: fvance on August 16, 2010, 05:48:40 AM
Thanks everybody. Ryan snd a lot of people are having tire issues. Ryan got to 200 and lost traction. Biilly Shoemaker has ruined two tires, Papi the same, Pat Womack ruined his on the first run. Jackb750 set a record dont remember what. Thanks to Knecum for a good bullet, Larry forstall for his continuing support, Johnny Cheese for a great tune, Tiger Racing for some great parts.

Fred

This sucks about the tires - is it related to the new 'race tire' rule? Or is it something else? I heard the salt was in excellent condition. I wonder if all the tires with issues were brand new.

Keep kickin' ass Fred.

Why did they make the "racing tires" rule? Most racing tires are much softer than street tires, and degrade more quickly... I can see not allowing certain tires, like Shinko 003's...but other than that, it seems like a bad rule.

Shane

Welcome to 3 months ago

Here's the thread where all this was discussed on LR.com.

http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,7946.0.html

BUT, I'm not jumping to conclusions yet, we don't know what the issues are, it might have nothing to do with the race tires.

Stubbs · « **Reply #33 on:** August 16, 2010, 01:45:48 PM »

regardless of compound.... spinning it for miles at a time will result in a failure @ any power level.. period

logging this type of information is Key!

Dean everyone that's on this board in this topic have posted on your link... Not new information

zrxdean · « **Reply #34 on:** August 16, 2010, 02:11:12 PM »

I know, I was just catching Shane B up to speed.

For sure throttle control is critical - no tire will withstand spinning for miles...

knecum · « **Reply #35 on:** August 16, 2010, 02:39:05 PM »

Well from what i heard, Fred is getting ready to make a pass soon going after a 219.?? record..with the fairings on.. I also heard the Joe Amo is finished for the meet due to handling problems with that front tire. He is coming to WOS thats it from what i'm told, don't quote me on this info though.. No real fast bikes there..Ryan is having tire problems..Will post more when i get more info..

knecum · « **Reply #36 on:** August 16, 2010, 02:40:42 PM »

Quote from: zrxdean on August 16, 2010, 02:11:12 PM

I know, I was just catching Shane B up to speed.

For sure throttle control is critical - no tire will withstand spinning for miles...

That's when seat of the pants experience comes to play...or Traction control...haha..!!

Got-Busa? · « **Reply #37 on:** August 16, 2010, 02:45:26 PM »

Any word on Bob Sellers? I know he was going, not sure if he was racing though...

TrickTom1 · « **Reply #38 on:** August 16, 2010, 03:07:38 PM »

Thanks Steve! Sellers is there helping Shoemaker.

TrickTom1 · « **Reply #39 on:** August 16, 2010, 03:10:40 PM »

Anyone have a pic of Amo tucked from the side view?

Stubbs · « **Reply #40 on:** August 16, 2010, 03:24:12 PM »

Sorry Shane I thought I saw a post or two from you on the tire topic on the other board..... Must be yet another "shane"...

Dean I didn't mean to sound like an azz.. sorry / Rough laying around most of the day ... Back troubles SUX!

Most people don't' "SEEK" Shane that what makes this sport even more dangerous. You can lead a horse to water but..... For example, Long swingarms on the salt with little no to ballast / weight transfer... etc etc etc.. They ask, you try to educate but in the end they are going to do what they are going to do... It make a person not even wanta answer but as you pointed out try another one Mat 7:12 same school of thought... Life like racing is one big circle, it will come back around... Have we done everything we could to help each other run as safe as possible? Speed and Records don't make you special....

Warp12 · « **Reply #41 on:** August 16, 2010, 03:28:40 PM »

Quote from: Livin1072 on August 16, 2010, 03:24:12 PM

Sorry Shane I thought I saw a post or two from you on the tire topic on the other board..... Must be yet another "shane"...

Dean I didn't mean to sound like an azz.. sorry / Rough laying around most of the day ... Back troubles SUX!

Most people don't' "SEEK" Shane that what makes this sport even more dangerous. You can lead a horse to water but..... For example, Long swingarms on the salt with little no to ballast / weight transfer... etc etc etc.. They ask, you try to educate but in the end they are going to do what they are going to do... It make a person not even wanta answer but as you pointed out try another one Mat 7:12 same school of thought... Life like racing is one big circle it will come back around... Have we done everything we could to help watch other? Speed and Records don't make you special....

One thing I do is seek! That's why I asked the question...

I don't race at any SCTA events, but i was looking for the logic/justification behind the rule. I have yet to find it.

Thanks to all for pointing me in the right direction.

Shane "B"

zrxdean · « **Reply #42 on:** August 16, 2010, 03:49:23 PM »

Quote from: Warp12 on August 16, 2010, 02:24:25 PM

Quote from: Livin1072 on August 16, 2010, 01:45:48 PM
regardless of compound.... spinning it for miles at a time will result in a failure @ any power level.. period

logging this type of information is Key!

Dean everyone that's on this board in this topic have posted on your link... Not new information

I didn't post there, obviously. Looks like a bullshit rule to me....but, then again, what do I know?

I don't race at Bonneville, so why would I even look there a few months back (Landracing SCTA stuff) for information??

Nonetheless, thanks for the info, Dean. Sorry I am not one of the most informed/fastest guys on this board. That makes people special. Right Shane??

Shane

PS. For those who are into that sort of thing....Matthew 7:1.

Whoa... I didn't mean anything personal, I was just trying to catch you up (and anyone else interested) on the history of this brand new rule, and the controversy.

knecum · « **Reply #43 on:** August 16, 2010, 03:56:59 PM »

Fred, just called and went 228 at the 3.....WOW!!!!!!!!!! But it was just a test pass for the qualifier!!! I am more happy then him i think....

knecum · « **Reply #44 on:** August 16, 2010, 03:58:59 PM »

Quote from: Livin1072 on August 16, 2010, 03:24:12 PM

Sorry Shane I thought I saw a post or two from you on the tire topic on the other board..... Must be yet another "shane"...

Dean I didn't mean to sound like an azz.. sorry / Rough laying around most of the day ... Back troubles SUX!

Most people don't' "SEEK" Shane that what makes this sport even more dangerous. You can lead a horse to water but..... For example, Long swingarms on the salt with little no to ballast / weight transfer... etc etc etc.. They ask, you try to educate but in the end they are going to do what they are going to do... It make a person not even wanta answer but as you pointed out try another one Mat 7:12 same school of thought... Life like racing is one big circle it will come back around... Have we done everything we could to help watch other? Speed and Records don't make you special....

Shane, im in bed to right now with a bad back

zrxdean · « **Reply #45 on:** August 16, 2010, 03:59:46 PM »

Quote from: knecum on August 16, 2010, 03:56:59 PM

Fred, just called and 228 at the 3.....WOW!!!!!!!!!! But it was just a test pass for the qualifier!!! I am more happy then him i think....

Holy shit that rocks! WTFG Fred!!!

MPS-G 1650?

zrxdean · « **Reply #46 on:** August 16, 2010, 04:00:38 PM »

Sorry about the backs guys, I've got a couple of bad discs, it sucks.

Stubbs · « **Reply #47 on:** August 16, 2010, 04:07:49 PM »

Quote from: knecum on August 16, 2010, 03:56:59 PM

Fred, just called and went 228 at the 3.....WOW!!!!!!!!!! But it was just a test pass for the qualifier!!! I am more happy then him i think....

HOLY MOLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Johnnnycheese · « **Reply #48 on:** August 16, 2010, 04:08:40 PM »

Quote from: knecum on August 16, 2010, 03:56:59 PM

Fred, just called and went 228 at the 3.....WOW!!!!!!!!!! But it was just a test pass for the qualifier!!! I am more happy then him i think....

I told you that motor has more in it than I saw it is just breaking in
that is one BAD AZZ MOTOR

Landspeed Larry · « **Reply #49 on:** August 16, 2010, 04:10:51 PM »

Fred is in the MPS/F 1350 class. He has to go through tech again since he installed the fairing and make an official qualifier. Hopefully today. WTG FRED. Unreal. He has No nitrous, just C16.

LSL

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