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Re: RACE IN OHIO? I need your input!
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2010, 12:45:33 AM »
You guys are REALLY helping me out. Keep the discussion going!
Josh, by sponsorship I mean anything from cash to prizes.

Sean, have you talked to anyone at the airport authority?

I've got some friends that use to work there, trying to find out some info if they know anyone still around...
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« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2010, 12:46:36 AM »
You guys are REALLY helping me out. Keep the discussion going!
Josh, by sponsorship I mean anything from cash to prizes.

Sean, have you talked to anyone at the airport authority?

I've got some friends that use to work there, trying to find out some info if they know anyone still around...
I'm on it! Thank you!

like osti said...
Not sure if you are talking about Wilmington Airpark but if you are you may want to check this thread.

http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,9059.0.html

Seems like those guys may already be working on it. Might want to hook up with them and see if they can help you or you can help them.

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Re: RACE IN OHIO? I need your input!
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2010, 10:41:18 AM »
A mile and1/4 might entice me to come. Its almost as far a Bonneville so would be iffy. If it was in April to June might be a good shakedown for Bville.
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« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2010, 10:51:32 AM »
Hey 106,

Since this would be close to Brocks place and he makes some LSR events, he might be interested in sponsoring something........just a thought. He's awful good with the drag racing crowd and has been good to our sport.

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« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2010, 11:08:04 AM »
Things that come to my mind:
When considering dates, only take salt racers as a minor influence.  Take the lead from TX, they in no way care about salt racers(and justly so).  They care about people that want to go fast, have a vehicle to do so with, and have money to do it.  Salt race only care about salt and the few that will do both are in such small numbers it doesn't make a difference.
saying that, the Hot summer months would be the best for a northern state like Ohio.

to many classes make it complicated, especially full LSR classes.  Keep it simple.

advertise, get the word out about the race and it will be profitable.

No matter how long the track, timing should at least take place at the 1 mile to unify the tracks.  The extra timing @ the 1.25 will be a bonus and an extra draw to the race.

Basic classes can be used to invoke repeat bussiness. (something to shoot for)

Start out with a very fare price to get people interested, later the price can go up a little

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« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2010, 11:36:36 AM »
Add another to Karl's list, and I like the track record only option to start.

Thanks for effort  :thumb:

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« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2010, 12:08:18 PM »
Talked to a few people and Clinton County Port Authority is in charge of the field now so you'd have to call them to discuss it.


I think there are a LOT of people in the midwest that would attend, they just don't have the time or means to travel to Maxton, Texas, Miami, etc.  Just on the local boards I know a bunch would attend and even more cars...  :thumb:

I think there would be a real GOOD chance of this happening at Wilmington if you can get insurance coverage for it.  They are really hurting with the economy and DHL pulling out.  I think the amount of hotels and local businesses that would benefit would definitely get the city to help advertise...
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« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2010, 12:52:55 PM »
I've been in the Mile racing for sevral years now and there are positives & negatives to all events. I've only raced at Texas but have talked to lots of people and read what people have said about the other events. Someone will probably get their panties in a wad but who cares. We need to be honest about things for the Mile racing to grow.
Texas - wide track & short shut down, better when there were less people, less cost, and shorter waits in line.
March 25-27
May 27-29
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Loring - wide track with long shut down, not crowded, not expensive, should also time at the Mile though.
July 15-17
Maxton - narrow & curved, too much tech, politics.
???
Miami - trying to get off the ground but having trouble, track is great, not too expensive, not too crowded.
???
Mojave - Just started, I don't know much about it.
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« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2010, 01:02:23 PM »
to amplify what Tom said:

Texas, i love it but they let too many people run, often times long waits in lane

Maxton - too much tech, 3 times is way overkill, curve on start not an issue, curve on shutdown requires attention (sort of like Texas short down requires attention), more like a family gathering than an event.

Miami - trying to get off the ground but having trouble, track is best condition of all,  not too expensive, not too crowded.
???

Mojave - beautiful track, WAY long & wide, most organized of any event
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« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2010, 02:23:19 PM »
I can't be terribly specific yet, but who would be interested in attending or running their bike in an event in southern Ohio? The strip is just under 11,000 feet long.
1. What must the strip have for you to attend an event there? security
2. What does the venue need? (Camping, electrical hookup, etc?) no
3. How much should it cost (seriously! lol)? $100 per day max
4. How far would you drive? idk
5. When should it be scheduled? summer
6. How many days? 2-3
7. Special needs? Nitrous refills, race fuel, etc? VP
8. Anyone want to be a sponsor?
9. Anyone live close and want to be involved in some way?
This will be an event with Tag Heuer timing equipment and a staff of people who know how to use it properly. Please take the time to respond in a thoughtful manner. If you send me a personal message, I will keep our correspondence private. Thanks in advance for your input.

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« Reply #35 on: December 30, 2010, 02:27:51 PM »
Maxton schedule for 2011;

April 2-3
May 14-15
June 25-26
Sept 24-25
Oct 29-30

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« Reply #36 on: December 30, 2010, 03:01:17 PM »
JANUARY
? Miami

MARCH
25-27 Texas

APRIL
2-3 Maxton
10 Mojave

MAY
14-15 Maxton
27-19 Texas

JUNE
25-26 Maxton

JULY
15-17 Loring

SEPTEMBER
24-25 Maxton

OCTOBER
8-9 Mojave
21-23 Texas
29-30 Maxton
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« Reply #37 on: December 30, 2010, 03:39:42 PM »
Yep, I'd try to keep the first event economical $125-150, 2 days, keep overhead as low as possible........just Johnny on the spots.
..................But if your serious about making money hire a consulting firm to shoot out e-mails to get people's demographics and see what you can sell them next. LOL, sorry could not resist.

I'd go for a June or August. As I know a few fellas on here that will be attending Loring and then WOS Sept 14-17.

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« Reply #38 on: December 30, 2010, 04:41:13 PM »
Yep, I'd try to keep the first event economical $125-150, 2 days, keep overhead as low as possible........just Johnny on the spots.
..................But if your serious about making money hire a consulting firm to shoot out e-mails to get people's demographics and see what you can sell them next. LOL, sorry could not resist.

I'd go for a June or August. As I know a few fellas on here that will be attending Loring and then WOS Sept 14-17.
August is wide open and the temps should be okay, compared to Texas anyways.

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« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2010, 04:20:19 PM »
All of this information is being noted and figured into the equation. I'm astounded by the response I've gotten from all sides. Thanks for all the input! I'll keep monitoring this thread, so keep posting your thoughts!
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« Reply #40 on: December 31, 2010, 04:55:13 PM »
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« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2011, 10:09:43 AM »
i would love to try it.

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« Reply #43 on: January 02, 2011, 09:54:46 PM »
The first draft of the proposal for the folks in Wilmington is finished. I will carve it into the final version over the next few days and present it to them on Wednesday or Thursday. The response from racers and officials has been very good. After we receive our response from the city, we will go from there. Think positive thoughts!
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« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2011, 12:55:28 AM »
The first draft of the proposal for the folks in Wilmington is finished. I will carve it into the final version over the next few days and present it to them on Wednesday or Thursday. The response from racers and officials has been very good. After we receive our response from the city, we will go from there. Think positive thoughts!

Sean,
have you yakked with Jay & Shannon (Texas Mile owners), they might be interested in bringing the TM org to Ohio if timing was right.

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« Reply #45 on: January 03, 2011, 09:39:30 AM »
Yep, I'd try to keep the first event economical $125-150, 2 days, keep overhead as low as possible........just Johnny on the spots.
..................But if your serious about making money hire a consulting firm to shoot out e-mails to get people's demographics and see what you can sell them next. LOL, sorry could not resist.

I'd go for a June or August. As I know a few fellas on here that will be attending Loring and then WOS Sept 14-17.
August is wide open and the temps should be okay, compared to Texas anyways.

Living in this area for several years, I can tell you that August isn't the nicest weather.  Temps can easily approach 95-97F with humidity through the roof. I was with a client at Edgewater Drag Strip this past August and temp hit 100F. I'm sure not as bad as Texas, but not anything near what we see in Maine.  Also, anything earlier than April 1st or later than mid-Nov you risk snow being on the track.
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« Reply #46 on: January 03, 2011, 03:29:36 PM »
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Living in this year area for several years, I can tell you that August isn't the nicest weather.  Temps can easily approach 95-97F with humidity through the roof. I was with a client at Edgewater Drag Strip this past August and temp hit 100F. I'm sure not as bad as Texas, but not anything near what we see in Maine.  Also, anything earlier than April 1st or later than mid-Nov you risk snow being on the track.

Amen, brother! Nothing quite like southern Ohio in August! If the heat doesn't get you, the humidity sure will!
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« Reply #47 on: January 03, 2011, 03:47:30 PM »
I'm ok with the cooler events even if there is a chance of snow... :D
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« Reply #48 on: January 04, 2011, 01:20:47 PM »
I would vote June.  
I know quite a few of us that have done Maxton in June and it is REALLY hot.  You could do it the weekend before their event, June 17-19th, so as not to conflict with Maxton, and it is still 3 weeks after Texas.
 
1. What must the strip have for you to attend an event there? Over a mile.  It looks like there are extra "run-off" areas.  A mile and a half with a 3/4 mile shutdown is ideal
2. What does the venue need? (Camping, electrical hookup, etc?) Just camping
3. How much should it cost (seriously! lol)? $200
4. How far would you drive? 14 hours max
5. When should it be scheduled? June
6. How many days? Two - Tech available Friday, race all day Saturday and all day Sunday
7. Special needs? Nitrous refills, race fuel, etc? Race gas vendor
8. Anyone want to be a sponsor? Approach Brock first
9. Anyone live close and want to be involved in some way? N/A

1.5 miles = 7,920 feet.  11,000 - 7,920 = 3,080.  3/4 of a mile = 3,960.  So you would "only" need 880 more feet to have a reasonably safe shutdown area.  It looked like there were other paved areas before and after the ends of the runway.

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« Reply #49 on: January 04, 2011, 02:44:59 PM »
1.5 miles = 7,920 feet.  11,000 - 7,920 = 3,080.  3/4 of a mile = 3,960.  So you would "only" need 880 more feet to have a reasonably safe shutdown area.  It looked like there were other paved areas before and after the ends of the runway.

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Per Airnav, the runway is 10,701 'x 150'.  SW end has 1,000' overrun and NE has 200'.  Not sure if that has been updated/changed or if it's usable.  Most larger fields typically have 800'-1,000' of overrun...
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