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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2011, 11:31:04 AM »
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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2011, 01:25:44 PM »
Some small progress today:

Heard that gen2 busa firmware can be flashed to gixxer K7 ecu and engine runs without errorcodes. This is quite interesting as it means that boostfuel, nitrouscontrol and everything else should work now from day one. Someone should really test this in a drag racing bike.

It looks that gixxer is designed to run MS1 as stock configuration and that MS0 is reserved for restricted gixxer models. Added an advanced settings feature to set MS0/MS1 map switching that is using pin 66 in gixxer ecu to enable dual fuel mapping for gixxers. Also made STP mapping available for gixxers. So getting some tuneability for this smaller suzuki too...
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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2011, 03:00:18 PM »
Quote from: PetriK on January 12, 2011, 01:25:44 PM
Some small progress today:

Heard that gen2 busa firmware can be flashed to gixxer K7 ecu and engine runs without errorcodes. This is quite interesting as it means that boostfuel, nitrouscontrol and everything else should work now from day one. Someone should really test this in a drag racing bike.

It looks that gixxer is designed to run MS1 as stock configuration and that MS0 is reserved for restricted gixxer models. Added an advanced settings feature to set MS0/MS1 map switching that is using pin 66 in gixxer ecu to enable dual fuel mapping for gixxers. Also made STP mapping available for gixxers. So getting some tuneability for this smaller suzuki too...

Hmmmm....this may really open up the world of ECU conversions onto different platforms  8) :lol: :tu: :bike:

Also may open up flashing for other GSXR models (750, 600, etc)
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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2011, 12:33:06 PM »
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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2011, 08:45:50 AM »
Dear All,

I'm following this thread with great interest. I have also read from it on the gixxer forum. I have a question to Petrik or Smithabusa.
If i were to order the very expensive programmer cable, is it possible for me to see and change the program, and not only the stored data maps?
preferably in c, but assembly will do too. I don't like to use the fancy user interfaces.

thanks already for the great work,

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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2011, 08:48:18 AM »
there is access to the source code for free, you don't even have to buy the incredibly expensive cable that I build, test before shipping, and tech support after the sale.  You can build a cable for yourself cheaper as well if you are wiring inclined.

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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2011, 09:08:03 AM »
would really like the ability to turn off ISC valve as does the GENII editor. Would like to be able to increase rpm without causing trouble code. Does anyone know how toincrease idle rpm.
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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2011, 12:52:38 PM »
Quote from: street missile on January 22, 2011, 08:45:50 AM
Dear All,

I'm following this thread with great interest. I have also read from it on the gixxer forum. I have a question to Petrik or Smithabusa.
If i were to order the very expensive programmer cable, is it possible for me to see and change the program, and not only the stored data maps?
preferably in c, but assembly will do too. I don't like to use the fancy user interfaces.

thanks already for the great work,

Street missile.



Of course, this is open source freeware... source is in bitbucket (every new programmer is welcome), and if you really feel d.i.y. this is the starting point:










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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2011, 03:22:00 PM »
Quote from: Birdman on January 22, 2011, 09:08:03 AM
would really like the ability to turn off ISC valve as does the GENII editor. Would like to be able to increase rpm without causing trouble code. Does anyone know how toincrease idle rpm.


OK, so whats next then....



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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2011, 04:04:37 AM »
Thanks for the reply,

I decided to order the interface since d.i.y is quite prone to error and i don't want to fry my mcu.
I can't even find the pin numbers and I don't have the connectors on my shelf either.
Hope that i can be of some help.

best regards,

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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2011, 11:27:15 AM »
Can someone explain to me the difference's between the 05-06 1000 ecu and the 07-08 1000 ecu?

Also, It has been mentioned on PB that to use a gen2 ecu on the 05-06 1000 there is only 1 pin that need to be changed. Do u know what pin this is?
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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2011, 11:55:06 AM »
05-06 is totally different from an 07-08
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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2011, 12:41:29 PM »
Quote from: FastazzR1 on January 23, 2011, 11:27:15 AM
Can someone explain to me the difference's between the 05-06 1000 ecu and the 07-08 1000 ecu?

Also, It has been mentioned on PB that to use a gen2 ecu on the 05-06 1000 there is only 1 pin that need to be changed. Do u know what pin this is?

The Gixxer ecu 05-06 1000 pinout is like said very close to gen2 busa 08- ecu. The biggest difference is Camshaft sensor which needs a 3 wire sensor from a newer gixxer or from busa to replace the 05-06 2 wire camshaft sensor. I know that quite a few are now considering this swap, but have not yet heard of any succesfully completing this - so it all works in theory (and on my desktop) only. Internally those are very different.
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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2011, 03:02:48 PM »
Quote from: FastazzR1 on January 23, 2011, 11:27:15 AM
Can someone explain to me the difference's between the 05-06 1000 ecu and the 07-08 1000 ecu?

Also, It has been mentioned on PB that to use a gen2 ecu on the 05-06 1000 there is only 1 pin that need to be changed. Do u know what pin this is?

I know to program the 05-06 ecu with the 08 busa bench flash unit you need to change one pin location , orange wire in busa plug pin 30 is in pin 24 location on the gix.have not compared the rest of the pinouts.

i  am one considering the swap ,have an 07 gix ecu and loom and cam sensor on the way & hope to convert a couple of bikes to boost fuel eventually

the 07-08 gix ecu uses the same internals as the 08 busa, whereas the 05-06 gix is much closer to the gen 1
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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2011, 03:51:10 PM »
Quote from: Oz Booster on January 23, 2011, 03:02:48 PM
Quote from: FastazzR1 on January 23, 2011, 11:27:15 AM
Can someone explain to me the difference's between the 05-06 1000 ecu and the 07-08 1000 ecu?

Also, It has been mentioned on PB that to use a gen2 ecu on the 05-06 1000 there is only 1 pin that need to be changed. Do u know what pin this is?

I know to program the 05-06 ecu with the 08 busa bench flash unit you need to change one pin location , orange wire in busa plug pin 30 is in pin 24 location on the gix.have not compared the rest of the pinouts.

i  am one considering the swap ,have an 07 gix ecu and loom and cam sensor on the way & hope to convert a couple of bikes to boost fuel eventually

the 07-08 gix ecu uses the same internals as the 08 busa, whereas the 05-06 gix is much closer to the gen 1

Now I'm confused, petrik says an 05-06 ecu is close to a gen2 ecu. Your sayin its close to a gen1. Which one is it? I've got a 05 1000 with a turbo, so I'm trying to find out which pin I need to change to be able to flash my 05 ecu with the gen2 software. Or would it make everything easier to just swap everything to the 07 ecu, harness and cam sensor?
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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2011, 03:53:15 PM »
the connector is similar thats about it, you can't use ecueditor software to flash 05/06's
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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2011, 03:53:46 PM »
converting to k7 g1000 is what you would want for ecueditor software to work
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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2011, 08:21:20 PM »
Quote from: smithabusa on January 23, 2011, 03:53:46 PM
converting to k7 g1000 is what you would want for ecueditor software to work

Not to my knowledge - Throwing away gixxer K5-K6 ecu and put in hayabusa gen2 ecu together with a new 3 wire style camshaft sensor is the easiest route for turbo fuelling - i know that many are thinking this conversion, but I have not yet seen it working exept on my desktop. But if you already have a new style harness then 07-08 gixxer ecu sounds reasonable route.

Converting to newer gixxer ecu you need new harness swapp to new gixxer harness. To my knowledge with gen2 busa ecu no major work for harness is needed, except this additional +5V wire from ecu to camshaft sensor.

Gixxer 05-06 ecu has very similar pinout to a gen2 busa ecuecu. Anyhow internally gixxer 05-06 ecu is like busa K2-K7.


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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2011, 09:33:05 PM »
sorry petrik wasn't thinking there, you are right of course  :thumb:
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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2011, 12:14:15 AM »
ok, so what your sayin is i can keep my k5-k6 wiring harness. change a couple of pinouts. add a three wire cam sensor. use a gen2 ecu and run an extra wire from the cam sensor to the ecu for the +5V wire. is that correct?
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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #45 on: January 24, 2011, 02:18:42 AM »
Quote from: street missile on January 22, 2011, 08:45:50 AM
Dear All,

I'm following this thread with great interest. I have also read from it on the gixxer forum. I have a question to Petrik or Smithabusa.
If i were to order the very expensive programmer cable, is it possible for me to see and change the program, and not only the stored data maps?
preferably in c, but assembly will do too. I don't like to use the fancy user interfaces.

thanks already for the great work,

Street missile.

Considering its half the price of a commander and is a million times better i dont see the problem here  :lol:
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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #46 on: January 24, 2011, 05:44:11 PM »
Quote from: FastazzR1 on January 24, 2011, 12:14:15 AM
ok, so what your sayin is i can keep my k5-k6 wiring harness. change a couple of pinouts. add a three wire cam sensor. use a gen2 ecu and run an extra wire from the cam sensor to the ecu for the +5V wire. is that correct?

Yes, in theory and on my desktop - but reality is to be tested by someone.
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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2011, 11:03:48 AM »
Can u tell me which pins I need to change around for the gen2 ecu to work on my 05 wiring harness?
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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2011, 12:08:08 PM »
Quote from: FastazzR1 on January 27, 2011, 11:03:48 AM
Can u tell me which pins I need to change around for the gen2 ecu to work on my 05 wiring harness?

unfortunately I am no gixxer expert. what i know you need to put one wire from +5v to the three wire cam sensor.

I have a K5 gixxer ecu on my desktop, and when i put that in busa harness it just ran without any problems.
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Re: ecueditor.com for K7- gixxers
« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2011, 03:10:18 PM »
http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?aBID=99460&p=3&topicID=17007315
http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?aBID=99460&p=3&topicID=25056186

There are a few pins to move around, also names vary a little for same pins ,  gix wiring diagram with colors may help, suzuki are realy consistant with wire color across there range of bikes very few exceptions
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