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Re: Thing 3
« Reply #75 on: February 05, 2013, 10:05:22 AM »
A real quality job  :tu:
I'm looking forward to seeing the bodywork.
Glad to see the garage is back to being a garage. :D


I grabbed 3 hours in my garage this week between the snow. We had a brief thaw.
When it gets really cold in there, it has frost on the underside of the roof !
Hey HOS, how's it going? Thanks :) If I had a bigger garage I'd let you work down here! It's been unseasonably warm here but it's in the mid 60's today.  Frost on the underside of the roof??  Wow! Have to toss some insulation up there and fire up the space heaters  :1:

Yeah I'm good taa  :D
Glad its been warm over there, its still hovering around freezing all day here atm.
Big heating in the garage is what gives it the condensation or maybe its just me breathing
I'm building some parts for a retro Kawasaki, no rush. I am more of a garage biker nowadays  :D  :lol:
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Chain Tensioner
« Reply #76 on: February 20, 2013, 07:29:19 PM »
Okay, got it bolted up!  I guess I'll see how well it holds up after I get it up and running.  If I'm never heard from again then you'll know it didn't work out so well :cry:


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Re: Thing 3
« Reply #77 on: February 26, 2013, 11:23:05 AM »
Are there any plates to stop the chain coming off the roller?
Loss of drive at the wrong time could be bad.
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Re: Thing 3
« Reply #78 on: February 26, 2013, 12:28:11 PM »
Are there any plates to stop the chain coming off the roller?
Loss of drive at the wrong time could be bad.
Hey! No, there's no deflection left or right since it's right at the rear sprocket. I did notice something, after looking at it some more. I didn't account for decceleration...  I had to trim the outter edge off the roller so it can retract further when the engine is used as a brake with the clutch out, throttle closed.  I still have to see how far it will travel when the bike is raised up all the way.  I believe it should be good when I engine brake but it's kind of close when lowered down all the way.  If it's still close I just have to remember to keep the clutch pulled and use the brakes to come to a stop instead of using the engine to slow down.  The next one I do will go a lot smoother :)
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Re: Thing 3
« Reply #79 on: February 26, 2013, 07:00:02 PM »
Why not simply tension the chain correctly? :id:
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Re: Thing 3
« Reply #80 on: February 27, 2013, 01:07:39 AM »
As "FlatlandBusa" said, a correctly tensioned chain would be the simpliest way.

But just another thought:
IMHO your chain tensioner is on the wrong side of the chain.
It should prevent the chain slipping off the rear wheel sprockket when it is too loose.
Your system do the opposite.
As I said its just a thought, perhaps Im wrong.
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Re: Thing 3
« Reply #81 on: March 06, 2013, 10:05:48 AM »
As "FlatlandBusa" said, a correctly tensioned chain would be the simpliest way.

But just another thought:
IMHO your chain tensioner is on the wrong side of the chain.
It should prevent the chain slipping off the rear wheel sprockket when it is too loose.
Your system do the opposite.
As I said its just a thought, perhaps Im wrong.
Hi!
  To answer yours and FlatlandBusa's questions; I have an air ride adjustable rear suspension and there is a lot of slack in the chain when the bike is fully raised so it's hard to always have the proper tension.  The tensioner has to be on the bottom of the chain because the highest tension is on the top on acceleration, slack goes to the bottom.  There is tension on the bottom but only when engine braking.  My next build will have a better setup, this is sort of a prototype.  Thanks for checking it out!  I'm open to suggestions :wink:
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Dirty pan
« Reply #82 on: March 06, 2013, 10:18:56 AM »
Dirty pan? Too bad Orbitz gum doesn't work on sludge :) I figured I would wait until the motor was in the frame so I could pull the pan a lot easier. Glad I didn't let this slide, that was some pretty thick sludge!

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Clean pan
« Reply #83 on: March 06, 2013, 10:21:29 AM »
A little diesel fuel and brake cleaner does the trick.
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« Reply #84 on: March 06, 2013, 10:24:33 AM »
Had to fix the threads for the right rear set. Back brakes hooked up with no major issues.
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« Reply #85 on: March 06, 2013, 10:38:22 AM »
Had a little drama with the clutch release cylinder, had to rebuild it...  I found a clutch cylinder support bracket that mounts to the top bolt hole of the water pump. Got it from Tricked Out Custom Cycles. I hope it's as tuff as it looks :?


Putting oil in it today and spinning the engine over by battery to check for any leaks and weird noises. If all is well, putting the exhaust system and radiator on.  I'm thinking about hooking up the tank and putting that on to see if it will fire up!
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Re: Thing 3
« Reply #86 on: March 06, 2013, 10:50:46 AM »
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Re: Thing 3
« Reply #87 on: March 07, 2013, 09:09:31 AM »
Got the exhaust hooked up.


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Re: Thing 3
« Reply #88 on: March 07, 2013, 09:14:00 AM »
Put the dual-fan radiator on and plugged in the Power Commander.
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Lower temp switch
« Reply #89 on: March 07, 2013, 09:26:28 AM »
This is my version of Schnitz Racing's lower temp switch kit: I removed the connectors from the plug, put the heat shrink on, and connected them to the switch just like the directions say.  What I did differently was get rid of all the zip ties and fill the plastic connector of the switch with hot glue from a glue gun then cut the wires and connected another connector to make it "plug and play".  The connectors are from MPS Racing and are pretty handy for other components too.  These switches don't go bad that often but now I have an easier way to disconnect it, just in case I need to remove the radiator again.  It looks OEM and is water-tight, just as before.
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It lives!
« Reply #90 on: March 09, 2013, 09:02:15 PM »
It's alive! http://youtu.be/W_dhxpnn96Y Took a little while to get the idle and fuel map adjusted but it fired up and sounds pretty wicked :twisted: At least to me anyway. My other bike is running in the background because I had to jump this one off but you can still hear the Busa over it.
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Re: It lives!
« Reply #91 on: March 12, 2013, 11:19:34 AM »
It's alive! http://youtu.be/W_dhxpnn96Y Took a little while to get the idle and fuel map adjusted but it fired up and sounds pretty wicked :twisted: At least to me anyway. My other bike is running in the background because I had to jump this one off but you can still hear the Busa over it.

Sounds rude !!  8)  :tu:

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Re: It lives!
« Reply #92 on: March 12, 2013, 07:18:48 PM »

Sounds rude !!  8)  :tu:

Love the front rotors.
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Hey, thanks :) I still have a bunch to get done but I'm hoping it'll be ready to ride soon :?  I spent this morning hooking up the air horn, putting the right side intake tube on, and connecting some more sensors. It gets hard to stay focused sometimes on what has to be done, sometimes I just stare at it until I figure out where to start next :shock:
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Alarming
« Reply #93 on: March 14, 2013, 11:34:16 AM »
Going where few men dare to tread :shock: Now that I know it runs I can start on the alarm, since all the components have been mounted already. I learned my lesson from the last build...  I decided to tap into the harness on the side of the frame, where there's more room.
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« Reply #94 on: April 21, 2013, 06:46:27 AM »
Not too many people like messing around with their wiring but if there's anybody that's interested then you might be able to use this info. Anyway, I've been trying to work on it when I can and I finally got most of the wiring done for the remote start and starter kill.
  This is a pic of the Viper 5704 alarm with the optional 516L voice module piggy-backed on top of it. The wiring is clustered up now but will be cleaned up later.


I mounted the microphone for the voice module in the trunk also. I plan on making a "special" warning recording 8)


I added the 508D DoubleGuard Field Disturbance Sensor and mounted it up front on the intake tube. It's a dual zone sensor that warns away if the first zone is entered and then triggers the alarm if the inner zone is violated.
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« Reply #95 on: April 21, 2013, 07:14:23 AM »
I tapped into the main harness with my own harness. If you plan on putting an alarm on your bike don't let the wires intimidate you. You'll need the service manual for your year of bike for this. I used the wiring from the ignition, starter, clutch, and neutral light.
The wires are:
Red-Main 12V power
Orange-True ignition when on
Orange with white tracer-ECU ground
Black with yellow tracer-clutch safety switch
Black-Ground
Yellow with green tracer-Starter(cut) key side and starter side go to their connection points on the alarm for starter kill
Blue with black tracer-Neutral light


The alarm requires a negative signal on the neutral safety switch connection but the neutral light sends a positive signal when the light is off. I used a separate relay powered by the neutral light on post 85 with ground on post 86 and 87a. I connected the alarm's lead to post 30 so whenever the bike is in gear with the kickstand down the relay opens the circuit so the remote start will not activate. This way I didn't have to fool around with the safety interlock relay of the bike.
I ran the harness on the side for now until I verify the connections with a test when all the components are in place. I still need to run out and buy a micro switch to simulate a door so I can program the alarm.
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« Reply #96 on: April 21, 2013, 07:22:38 AM »
This is probably illegal in some states but I put it on anyway! :tu: I'd rather be seen and not hurt. The relay is mounted along side the fuse box. On the relay I connected the OEM horn wires to 85 and 86, 12 volts to 30, and the horn to 87.  The alarm has a horn honk function I'm tempted to use with this horn too but I'm afraid it might burn the motor out :grn:


I'm gonna throw the license plate holder on next. That has some wiring that goes with it too.
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Re: Thing 3
« Reply #97 on: April 25, 2013, 07:51:06 AM »
Hey, are you having meatballs with all that spaghetti?  :lol:

Nice work  :thumb:
I can do minor electrical stuff, but wiring in an alarm system is not something most people could do or would attempt.

Hows it coming along bud?  :D
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Re: Thing 3
« Reply #98 on: April 25, 2013, 12:38:18 PM »
Hey, are you having meatballs with all that spaghetti?  :lol:

Nice work  :thumb:
I can do minor electrical stuff, but wiring in an alarm system is not something most people could do or would attempt.

Hows it coming along bud?  :D
Thanks! Gonna have meatballs with garlic bread on the side :D  You should've seen it before I started making the connections :shock: It's moving right along, though.  I just have to track down a switch then I can test it out. It's a little challenging; I've done alarm installs but this is the first time I've used additional sensors.  Each one comes with its own instructions but you have to wire it together as a unit. Fun :lol: I forgot to mention the tilt sensor too!
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Re: Thing 3
« Reply #99 on: May 02, 2013, 04:57:56 PM »
Got to be there soon.
Hows it going bud?

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