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Offline Yngve

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Hi flow oilpump
« on: June 09, 2011, 09:33:57 AM »
I just bought myself a couple of hi flow oilpump for my Hayabusa(es).

I will be testing them and give my findings soon.



Test done by Andersson Turbo on a Turbo Hayabusa with a KKK turbo thats uses a lot of oil through the bearing.

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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2011, 09:46:24 AM »
Can these be used on a N/A motor?
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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2011, 10:47:16 AM »
Quote from: BUSABOYSA on June 09, 2011, 09:46:24 AM
Can these be used on a N/A motor?
Yup. I am putting them on my 1471 and on my 1585cc engines.
As long s the pressure valve works there will be no problems.
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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2011, 10:49:37 AM »
Where can i buy one and how much?
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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2011, 01:58:39 PM »
Quote from: BUSABOYSA on June 09, 2011, 10:49:37 AM
Where can i buy one and how much?

X2 on that
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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2011, 03:06:15 PM »
http://www.sporthoj.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218885

Here is the tread on a swedish site about them.

I paid around $550 each.

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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2011, 03:39:47 PM »
and who did you buy them from?

i dont speak or read swedish, sorry.
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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2011, 04:13:52 PM »
Quote from: blk02ws6 on June 09, 2011, 03:39:47 PM
and who did you buy them from?

i dont speak or read swedish, sorry.

Open the page in the google chrome browser then click the translate tap at the top when prompted.
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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2011, 05:21:44 PM »
did that, but still doesnt show anything as far as where to purchase....
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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2011, 11:24:23 PM »
Quote from: blk02ws6 on June 09, 2011, 05:21:44 PM
did that, but still doesnt show anything as far as where to purchase....
I ordered from Patrik Wigren through his nick on that site ( Hayabusa.Patrik )
I try to get an e-mail adress from him and post it here.

You can order from him using this adress:

hayabusa.patrik"at"spray.se
« Last Edit: June 10, 2011, 03:31:27 AM by Yngve »
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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2011, 09:36:43 AM »
cool, thanks for the info. keep us posted on how it performs.
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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2011, 10:42:26 AM »
I've always liked Anderssons stuff.  He pays attention to detail and it's obvious when you see his kits because everything is polished, fits well, etcetera.  I'm sure that his oil pump is no exception to this.

I do have a question.  On the graph what are the numbers on the left side axis?  On the botom it's obviously RPM's but it's not clear to me if the numbers on the left are pressure or volume data.

Thank you for posting. :tu:

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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2011, 10:48:00 AM »
After taking another look at the graph and the post from the other site the numbers must represent bars.  The way I'm reading it at 8K RPM's the stock pump puts out 55PSI and the billet pump put out about 82.5PSI.  That's awesome! :tu:
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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2011, 02:39:02 PM »
Id be logging the oil pressure from that main
Gallery plug that sits under no2 main cap and see
How the pressure relief valve behaves on fast
Acceleration in controlling the oil pressure.do it with
Cooler(thicker) oil as well to decide on real world
Results .i ported the intake and outlet oil pump
Case castings on mine with stock oil pump and gear.
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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2011, 08:55:05 PM »
How does this mount...any pics?
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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2011, 02:23:55 AM »
Quote from: unit176 on June 11, 2011, 08:55:05 PM
How does this mount...any pics?
It just replaces the original pump. Nothing to modify.
I haven't changed mine yet have had other things to do. I hope to do it today or tomorrow but I am also putting together a dragbike for a paying customer and he goes first :)
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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2011, 02:15:29 AM »
How did the pump go? Is it working better than the oversped pump?

Keen to understand
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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2011, 06:46:35 PM »
I am curious...I already have a high volume oil pump gear and oil pressure reliefe valve that I purchased...does this replace those parts or would I add them to this kit? 
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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2011, 09:34:23 PM »
Quote from: unit176 on July 16, 2011, 06:46:35 PM
I am curious...I already have a high volume oil pump gear and oil pressure reliefe valve that I purchased...does this replace those parts or would I add them to this kit? 

I'm thinking if you've already got those items there's no need to buy that pump.  They essentially do the same thing.

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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2011, 02:23:36 AM »
I had a look at the oil pressure of a gen2 cranked motor
I built the other day,hmmm.even with factory tolerances
Theres no doubt that with the same oil pump they make less oil pressure
Than a gen1 cranked motor,mike from sae outlaw
Had alerted me about this and he was right.
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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2011, 05:38:22 AM »
Quote from: glenn71 on July 17, 2011, 02:23:36 AM
I had a look at the oil pressure of a gen2 cranked motor
I built the other day,hmmm.even with factory tolerances
Theres no doubt that with the same oil pump they make less oil pressure
Than a gen1 cranked motor,mike from sae outlaw
Had alerted me about this and he was right.

That's an interesting find.

I didn't know that but I heard there were some minor oiling changes with the gen II including smaller jets for cooling the piston skirts and a smaller oil jet for the stator.  Maybe these changes require less oil pressure in the gen II.

Thank you for the info.  Now I'm really happy I went with the oil gear and windage tray!

Jason

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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2011, 12:48:54 PM »
FYI-
A very well known and respected Hayabusa engine builder advised against using the high pressure oil gear when he built my 1441.

Chet



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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2011, 01:42:14 PM »
Quote from: Chet on September 12, 2011, 12:48:54 PM
FYI-
A very well known and respected Hayabusa engine builder advised against using the high pressure oil gear when he built my 1441.

Chet





Why?
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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2011, 06:17:43 PM »
Wanna see something  scary,,put a oil gauge on your bike and watch it after its warmed up
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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2011, 06:45:29 PM »
Quote from: dave3.4 on September 12, 2011, 06:17:43 PM
Wanna see something  scary,,put a oil gauge on your bike and watch it after its warmed up

That's kinda my point.  I can't see where a little extra pressure would be too bad.
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Re: Hi flow oilpump
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2011, 06:32:29 AM »
been going for a few rides with mine and watching the
oil pressure logs.from what the logs show me,theres
more in matching bearing clearances with hot oil
viscosity.i can easily get 115psi with the stock oil pump gear and
5w/40 oil but if it wheelspins or you have to chop the throttle the oil pressure
can drop to 55-60psi as the motor unloads.im
tending to believe that a tighter main bearing clearance will
lessen the drop in oil pressure when a motor unloads as opposed to just
upping the oil pressure and flow,i would expect with the same clearances and more
pressure and flow the same would occur but at a higher pressure.ideally
a stable oil pressure with a loaded or unloaded motor
would be ideal.
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