The ET's support your wheelbase claim (which I completely agree with).
Yeah...
The trap speeds indicate power to weight ratio,
Yeah...
...and the top gear roll-on numbers indicate torque to weight ratio.
Ahh, no. Like I said, 6th gear on the Gixxer 1000 approximates the same mechanical advantage as third gear on the Hayabusa.
DO you still want to argue all of my claims about my 05' 1000?
Now that we've settled the first quarter-mile from a standing start, I think the only part of this that remains unresolved is the top speed thing. I think that I've already spent way too much time with you on fundamental arithmatic at this point, so the answer to your question is "no"- I really don't care what you claim to believe.
I weigh 185 pounds (200 in gear), and in a straight line, I've repeatedly dumped every single '05 Gixxer 1000 (and every other year of Gixxer 1000, and every year of every other brand of 1000, and so on, and so on, and so on...) that I've ever come across with my Gen I Hayabusa, from drag strip to top speed runs, consistent with what the fundamental arithmatic supports, and I've never had the valve cover off.
And like I said, go ahead and put a 1000 ratio transmission in your Busa and see what happens to its top speed. It will then definitely be slower than a 1000!!! And you know it...
Better yet, let's stick a 600cc ratio transmission in your Busa and give it a REAL mechanical advantage. Have fun with your 120 mph Busa Kirk !
Like I said before, I FULLY understand the math. But I'm dealing with the real world. Everything is geared according to displacement, rpm's, weight, etc. Whether it's a 3000 rpm diesel, 7000 rpm V-8, or a 20,000 rpm 250. In other words, the FACT that both bikes are geared for the same top speed in 6th gear, makes it an apples to apples comparison, regardless of your "fundamental arithmetic". You really need to stop misleading the people who want a real world answer...
The FACT that 05-06 1000's have better roll on numbers IS real world...get it?
When my 1000 was showroom new and stock, it was already equal to my modded Busa and I couldn't believe it!!! My youngest son, who is 5" taller than me and outweighs me by 70 lbs., and I would take both bikes out and do numerous different gear/ rpm/ speed roll ons. The bike that I was riding, whether it was my Busa or 1000 would always pull the same advantage over the other bike.
When my 1000 had about 800 miles on it, a group of us took a couple hundred mile ride. There were three 01'-04' GSX-R 1000's, my 05' 1000, and 2 Busas. We were out in the middle of nowhere on state rt. 32 in Ohio. 2 lanes in each direction with a median separating them. We came to a traffic light for a small town on the left, the light was red...
Yeah, you know what happened next. All 6 bikes lined up across our 2 lanes, I was on the far right of the right lane. I'm thinking 'we're not really going to do this, are we?' I told myself that I wasn't... but you all know what happened when the light changed... It was surreal, like being in a movie and laughing hysterically! One of the Busas had hi-comp drop-ins, full Akropovic, lowered, geared, mapped, etc. He left everyone at the line and was gone. I was next, but then proceeded to leave the group I was with and not only catch, but pass that Busa... Everyone was in shock and disbelief! Yes the rider on that Busa weighs 230+, but still it was FAR from stock...
The fact that your Busa is/was FAR from stock, and I'm talking about the bike, NOT the engine, means absolutely nothing in this comparison. How much money did you throw at it Kirk? Remember...apples to apples
My 1000 still has the factory exhaust, and is still at stock weight. Just adding a aftermarket exhaust reduces the weight dramatically.
In other words: I'd be glad to spank your ass & "with what the fundamental arithmetic supports" claim anytime... Bring it on!
