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Offline zrxdean

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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #50 on: September 15, 2011, 09:50:18 AM »
Quote from: entropy on September 15, 2011, 06:50:42 AM
Fred is purely KICKING ASS!!!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

rest of us are having issues.

Guppy got a new motor,

Nekkid Osti has traction problems,

I am having bad handling problems over 150, big rear end oscillations.  
Yesterday i picked up a new arm from Scott Horner in SLC, maybe that will help.
To be continued  :D

Thanks for the update Karl, sorry to hear about the gremlins, I was wondering what was up with TFA.

Scott is good people, hope it helps.
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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #51 on: September 15, 2011, 10:07:13 AM »
It's hard to believe that Fred has managed to set NINE 1350cc SCTA records - Production, M naked gas, M naked fuel, A naked gas, A naked fuel, MPS gas, MPS fuel, APS gas, & APS fuel.

Johhny, is he running on Cheese only? No spray or alcohol?  This would be even more impressive.

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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #52 on: September 15, 2011, 10:52:05 AM »
Quote from: zrxdean on September 15, 2011, 10:07:13 AM
It's hard to believe that Fred has managed to set NINE 1350cc SCTA records - Production, M naked gas, M naked fuel, A naked gas, A naked fuel, MPS gas, MPS fuel, APS gas, & APS fuel.

Johhny, is he running on Cheese only? No spray or alcohol?  This would be even more impressive.

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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #53 on: September 15, 2011, 06:01:38 PM »
Karl is done for now, cannot fix unsafe wobble.
Ryan has been having traction issues.
Fred is chillin like a King.
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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #54 on: September 15, 2011, 08:17:07 PM »
Ryan's bike is not running good, shooting ducks on the last run. He is done. Mark Deluca ran 227 at the 2 1/4, 218 at the 3, 217 at the 4. Had a bad crosswind and had to pedal it. tne rear tire chunked, but they had a new tire. Qualified on a 217 record. Will do record run in the morning.
No spray, no alcohol. I ran VP Q16 this week. All motor all the time.
Mike Brakel qualified his Knecom motored 1650 mps/g at 216+ on a 215 record. It was his first or second full bore run. excellent. I asked him if he was on a Sunday cruise,he short shifted every gear a lot. He is really going to be fast when he gets used to the salt.
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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #55 on: September 16, 2011, 06:29:16 AM »
RustBucketRoller went in the trailer and ain't coming out  
Yesterday we shotted up the arm i got from Scott Horner, R&R'd the existing one, waited 3hrs in lane and ran it.

At 150 it seemed better, but nope, tail oscillations still there, got out of it at 170, had a VERY, VERY exciting ride back to 80mph when the oscillations stopped.  
I'm just happy i didn't go down, was thinking "I hope it's a lowside" at one point...

Weird, front stable as can be, but tail wagging back and forth fast, not little puppy tail type wags, big happy Labrador type wags.

Took it back to 120 and had a nice mile long salt cruise to the turnout.

Go figure.

i'm done
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We changed r wheel/tire, spkt carrier, swing arm.
Put stock dog bones on, front height just a lil dropped. 
Checked steering head & f wheel, all tight and smooth. 
String checked front/wheel alignment = perfect.
If anyone has a clue please give me a hint.



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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #56 on: September 16, 2011, 06:53:35 AM »
That sucks Karl, sorry. Glad you kept it on 2 wheels though, nice riding.

I have no idea, this seems to be one of the mysteries of LSR chassis. Scott's H2 has a pretty consistent oscillation, and Joe Amo has been struggling with something that sounds a lot like what you describe. I know you checked wheel alignment, but maybe the frame or fork is tweaked. Was there any relationship to the wind? Bodywork straight? Maybe strip off the bodywork and give it a shot. I'm sure you've thought of all these things already.
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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #57 on: September 16, 2011, 09:24:09 AM »
Karl, i pmd you and Fred..

Joe :)
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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #58 on: September 16, 2011, 11:20:20 AM »
I hate to hear you didn't get a chance to air it out knowing that it will run big numbers but you are a smart man Karl........live to race another day!

Good luck on finding the problem, wish I could help but I'm sure there is some smart folks who will help you solve the issue.

Sorry to hear Ryan was having problems too. Sounds like Fred is doing great, congratulations!!

Dan
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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #59 on: September 16, 2011, 11:32:10 AM »
Deluca ran 231 in first mile on return run...will avg that with yesterdays 218 for around a 224 new record...

went 237 in second timed mile..showing much more available...then shut off...

spitting abit of rain according to reports during these runs...

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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #60 on: September 16, 2011, 11:39:40 AM »
another Knecum engine success this am..Mike Brakel  goes over 220 for two way avg over 218 on an mps-g 1650..
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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #61 on: September 16, 2011, 12:25:10 PM »
Karl put someone else on  it ,  your are there it is worth a try.
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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #62 on: September 16, 2011, 04:53:49 PM »
Quote from: Johnnnycheese on September 16, 2011, 12:25:10 PM
Karl put someone else on  it ,  your are there it is worth a try.

JC,
Thanks for the suggestion, but the handling was so evil, I wouldn't want to risk anyone else's well being.

If anyone is going to crash that bike, I want the honors! :hys:
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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #63 on: September 16, 2011, 04:57:10 PM »
Quote from: entropy on September 16, 2011, 04:53:49 PM
Quote from: Johnnnycheese on September 16, 2011, 12:25:10 PM
Karl put someone else on  it ,  your are there it is worth a try.

JC,
Thanks for the suggestion, but the handling was so evil, I wouldn't want to risk anyone else's well being.

If anyone is going to crash that bike, I want the honors! :hys:
point taken
 at least you have been and ran still one uo on the Cheeseman :thumb:
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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #64 on: September 16, 2011, 06:38:40 PM »
Called paying your dues to the salt gods

some pay it before

some pay it after

Pretty sure everyone pays at some point...

Great experience none the less.....

Way better then the best week at work  :)
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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #65 on: September 16, 2011, 07:29:51 PM »
Quote from: gixxerfixxer on September 16, 2011, 06:38:40 PM
Called paying your dues to the salt gods

some pay it before

some pay it after

Pretty sure everyone pays at some point...

Great experience none the less.....

Way better then the best week at work  :)

I sure hope I'm paid up..... After Speedweek we should have some credit!  :wink:  Sorry to read about the Drama Karl!

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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #66 on: September 16, 2011, 11:34:30 PM »
Quote from: gixxerfixxer on September 16, 2011, 06:38:40 PM
Called paying your dues to the salt gods
some pay it before
some pay it after
Pretty sure everyone pays at some point...
Great experience none the less.....
Way better then the best week at work  :)
That sounds familiar, :?
had tuning probs, sorted thanks to a late visit to Scott :D,
handling issues, , removed new tail, removed new tire, trying to remove the crosswind.... Karl is not alone with his interesting rides :shock:
Good news for us is Jim bumped my old 750 naked fuel record and Kim is in impound on Jims old naked gas record
Every year is different, and im sure i am paying my dues from the last couple of easy years, storms tonite hope the track is ok tomorrow
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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #67 on: September 17, 2011, 03:11:02 PM »
Fred, you are a speed god, along with the best speed gods helping your effort. TALK ABOUT A TEAM EFFORT !!! wow!!!!! :bike:
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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #68 on: September 17, 2011, 04:32:45 PM »
A couple of people suggested I ride Karls bike, not Karl. I said not me I busted my azz last year, if it scared Karl just think what it would do to an old man like me. :hys:
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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #69 on: September 17, 2011, 04:43:36 PM »
Our fiirst year down in 01' we took am 86 GSXR-1100

 The thing wobbled and wobbled all the time over 140 mph

It's still on the bench and still no reason why?

On pavement no issues. what so ever...
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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #70 on: September 17, 2011, 07:19:30 PM »
Quote from: Oz Booster on September 16, 2011, 11:34:30 PM
Quote from: gixxerfixxer on September 16, 2011, 06:38:40 PM
Called paying your dues to the salt gods
some pay it before
some pay it after
Pretty sure everyone pays at some point...
Great experience none the less.....
Way better then the best week at work  :)
That sounds familiar, :?
had tuning probs, sorted thanks to a late visit to Scott :D,
handling issues, , removed new tail, removed new tire, trying to remove the crosswind.... Karl is not alone with his interesting rides :shock:
Good news for us is Jim bumped my old 750 naked fuel record and Kim is in impound on Jims old naked gas record
Every year is different, and im sure i am paying my dues from the last couple of easy years, storms tonite hope the track is ok tomorrow

Issues always stink, but I am sure you are still having a good time.
I know how it is (not LSR, but in dragracing).
I just plain like being involved. If performance happens, it happens, but the whole experience is why I stick with it.
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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #71 on: September 18, 2011, 12:29:58 AM »
Still love being here, and hope to learn a lot more for the problems .
Rainout kept Kim from getting her return run, and the other 3 in impound, Dissapointing but there is always next year
Now hanging around to support Richard Assen at the Cook event for a couple of days before we have to get home.

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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #72 on: September 18, 2011, 05:35:15 PM »
I gotta thank Team Australkiwi for inviting TeamFatAss to a spaghetti-whiskey fest at Carmen's. :thumb:

You guys and Kim sure made us feel welcome, we had a ball.
Too damn bad we left early but our 2am departure time  made having yet another "just one more" not a good idea.

Kim sure seemed pumped about being in impound; damn shame the weather didn't cooperate.

Good luck to Richard at the Cook event!

Karl
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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #73 on: September 19, 2011, 08:20:22 AM »
I also want to thank Mike Hooks, Bill Kelly, Jake Peters who did all my pit stuff, AWESOME guys, helped me out more than I ever thought possible.

I had no idea that having a pit crew makes everything soooooooo much easier.

They are the best!!!
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Re: World of Speed 2011
« Reply #74 on: September 20, 2011, 03:45:28 PM »
Congrats to all those who made the event and went down the course  :thumb:

223mph on a sidecar!  No blower!

http://www.saltflats.com/WOS_2011.htm

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