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Help with nitrous fuel pump.
« on: July 09, 2012, 02:36:43 AM »
I am now planning on a wet kit(could always change).
I don't want rubber hoses and hose clamps under my tank, if at all possible..
I am needing a low pressure inline pump that will accept -AN fittings.

Thoughts on these please, and/or what has anyone used with success??
Thanks in advance!!!!

 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATX-E8251/

Brand Airtex
Manufacturer's Part Number 110-E8251
Part Type Fuel Pumps, Electric External
Product Line Airtex External Electric Fuel Pumps
Summit Racing Part Number ATX-E8251
UPC 080044124849
Free Flow Rate 30 gph
Maximum Pressure (psi) 4.5 psi
Inlet Size 5/16 in.
Inlet Quantity Single
Inlet Attachment Hose barb
Outlet Size 5/16 in.
Outlet Quantity Single
Outlet Attachment Hose barb
Quantity Sold individually.
Notes Designed for low pressure marine applications

http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Result.aspx?Ntt=480566&Ntk=Interchange+Number&Nty=1&Dn=0&D=480566&Dk=1&Dp=3&N=0

Part Number: BK 6101050
Product Line: Balkamp
Attributes:
 Fuel Pump Fitting Size : 1/8"-27 NPTF Int.
Fuel Pump Fitting Type : 1/8"-27 NPTF Int.
Fuel Pump Gallons Per Hour : 34 gph
Fuel Pump Pressure Rating : 6 - 4.5 psi
Manufacturer : Facet
Manufacturer Part Number : 40179


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Re: Help with nitrous fuel pump.
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2012, 02:41:29 AM »
I could even go for this, if the inlet side was the rubber hose side, and the -AN fitting could screw into the outlet side. The pictures don't indicate in/out.
Does anyone know which is which??

http://www.nitrousexpress.com/product-details.php?id=195
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Re: Help with nitrous fuel pump.
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2012, 10:01:00 AM »
airtex pump are garbage. Are you wanting to run a high preesure or low pressure system?
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Re: Help with nitrous fuel pump.
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2012, 05:10:36 PM »
No, just a regular low pressure. My main deal is that I just don't like hose clamps under the tank. I'm wanting to screw my lines together. If I can't, I can't, but I would like too.
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Re: Help with nitrous fuel pump.
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2012, 08:10:22 AM »
Aerotech make a low pressure fuel pump that has an fitting on both ends
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Re: Help with nitrous fuel pump.
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2012, 03:11:36 PM »
Thanks.
I'm headed to check it out.
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Re: Help with nitrous fuel pump.
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2012, 03:18:50 PM »
you could always do a single pump intank with  the plate that has an fittings.  or do a external pump and mount it down low on the frame out of the way. if you did that you could just branch off with an lines to both the fuel injectors and the wet nozzles. as long as you have enough pump there wont be a problem doing it this way.

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Re: Help with nitrous fuel pump.
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2012, 03:40:13 PM »
I used a fuel plate with a -6 AN inlet and return for the fuel pump supplying the injectors, then another -6 inlet and return for a seperate fuel pump supplying fuel for the nitrous system. Of course with this set-up you lose your fuel sending unit unless you fabricate a bracket to allow the hardware that goes with it to fit.
 
I believe Chris' set-up uses low pressure (approx 7 psi) fuel pressure for the fuel side of the wet system. I will be using a higher fuel pressure set-up, so my pump would be different than what Chris will use.
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Re: Help with nitrous fuel pump.
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2012, 04:45:43 PM »
I'm trying to get down to 5-6lbs flowing.
I have a plate that goes between my tank and fuel pump with 4 threaded holes. Could I use this pump and use a jet style return, to bleed off some of the pressure, and then use a regulator if necessary??

http://www.jegs.com/i/Holley/510/12-927/10002/-1
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Re: Help with nitrous fuel pump.
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2012, 04:54:01 PM »
Chris, the spacer plate will work if you use an inlet and outlet, but that fuel pump is too high pressure for what you're trying to do. Use a low pressure high volume pump with a return style regulator, or use the same pump with a deadhead regulator (no return line). I much prefer the return style regulator, as it doesn't heat the fuel up and I believe provides more consistent pressures.
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Re: Help with nitrous fuel pump.
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2012, 04:56:55 PM »
Sorry I meant Aeromotive
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Re: Help with nitrous fuel pump.
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2012, 05:18:20 PM »
Ok,
Let me make this a little easier.
I know that I overthink shit sometimes. Ok, All the time..... :shock:

I want AN fittings because I don't want old cracking rubber lines under my tank........ :td:

I am fully ok with the barbed ends. You gotta cut that shit off, so I know it won't blow off...

Now, lets go this route.
Is there a hose on the market that will go on a barbed fitting, that will last over years???

I can solve this real easily with one of SEVERAL $100 fuel pumps, IF I can feel safe with the right hose.

Thanks to all, for the help.
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Re: Help with nitrous fuel pump.
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2012, 05:47:58 PM »
There are some great hose options that will work perfectly, but I believe you can use AN fittings with the Holley pumps I mentioned along with most othfer low pressure pumps. Same with the regulators, no problem using AN type fittings.

Tahe your system or bike to someone local who is good with this, tell them what you're after and let them advise you what to do and use. Too amy people telling you what to do and/or what parts to use is a recipe for disaster. Find your best most knowledgable person who has successful experience with nitrous in your application and stick with him. Everyone means well, but there are too many different opinions and approaches, some of which are not very compatible with each other even though they work well by themselves. Hopefully this is making sense.

Chris, you always seem to have the best well engineered set-ups that produce or surpass the desired results, stick with what has worked for you in the past as far as how you put it all together.  :thumb:
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Re: Help with nitrous fuel pump.
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2012, 06:21:21 PM »
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Re: Help with nitrous fuel pump.
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2012, 09:06:08 AM »
Ok,
Let me make this a little easier.
I know that I overthink shit sometimes. Ok, All the time..... :shock:

I want AN fittings because I don't want old cracking rubber lines under my tank........ :td:

I am fully ok with the barbed ends. You gotta cut that shit off, so I know it won't blow off...

Now, lets go this route.
Is there a hose on the market that will go on a barbed fitting, that will last over years???

I can solve this real easily with one of SEVERAL $100 fuel pumps, IF I can feel safe with the right hose.

Thanks to all, for the help.

i got all my fuel lines from my las setup from  earls.  just tapped the tank beside the fuel pump and then bought all the fittings to attach it all.  you do have to use hose clamps on the pump but the earls hose is good stuff and wont crack.

seriously i would think about changing the whole fuel system over to aftermarket so you can use an fittings everywhere. its much easier if you ever want to change, or add something.

why are you so set on using low pressure anyways?  it would be much easier to run 1 pump and be done with it.