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Offline scott g

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Re: Fatalities in LSR
« Reply #250 on: October 09, 2017, 01:12:22 PM »
The season is almost over, and almost everybody remains safe and sound !

We attended the BARBER VINTAGE WEEKEND and found some folks
willing to discuss our safety problems.  Among those participating
 in those discussions was Leif Gustafsson, a past MotoGP winner,
and the owner of Gustafsson Plastics

https://bikescreen.com/

who have supplied small-production motorcycle fairing windscreens since 1968.

Between us (My first race win was in 1967), we have more than 100 years experience in the field.
When given the choice, I have ALWAYS specified GUSTAFSSON WINDSCREENS.

Here's one of the reasons:

Leif and I discussed the " windpipe" injury and "cutting" problems.
When I questioned Leif about the Mika Kallio situation, he immediately
responded in his still slightly accented Swedish voice:

"If the rider is going to contact any part of the bike with an unprotected
portion of his body, that that portion of the bike must be "softer" that that
 part of the rider's body.  The windscreen is a special case. 

We have always recommended that for racing the windscreen should be
 a "breakaway" part that will exit the bike before the rider's body is injured.
This is often accomplished with soft plastic fasteners.

 If the "breakaway" mounting style is NOT used, than a special plastic
 must be used that will not shatter and produce sharp edges that will cut the rider.
 It is VERY hard to find a suitable plastic formulation that will allow this.

An added concern is that the plastic not turn yellow when
 exposed to the strong UV light on racing days.

We have never found a plastic - regardless of cost - that can perform
ALL these jobs, so we have to prioritize the needs.

We prefer to never expose the rider to possible injury, but we cannot
control - once the screen leaves our shop - how the user installs the product."




 

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Re: Fatalities in LSR
« Reply #251 on: October 11, 2017, 03:11:06 PM »
It would be really amazing if someone were to develop a robot to do some high speed testing like Yamaha are doing with Motobot.....

You would be able to do plenty more runs without the risk of a human being injured, that would help alot to gather data right?

What do people think?

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Re: Fatalities in LSR
« Reply #252 on: October 12, 2017, 09:07:13 AM »
Bad idea, the whole point in LSR is that there is some kind of danger factor present, otherwise my mrs would be running records and i would be at home watching Deadliest Catch on tv

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Re: Fatalities in LSR
« Reply #253 on: October 15, 2017, 07:03:14 AM »
... the whole point in LSR is that there is some kind of danger factor present,
otherwise my mrs would be running records and
i would be at home watching Deadliest Catch on tv...

And, thinking about risk, do try to watch
the last lap of the Japanese Grand Prix; a HUGE battle between
Marquez on the slipping 'n Sliding Honda (it was a rain  race)
 and the constantly wobbling Ducati of Dovizioso............

The point for us is that is is highly possible that the bike will
 want to pitch us off (Dovizioso) or jump out from under us (Marquez).

Risk is always with us.

Perhaps the point (for us) of the Dovizioso / Marquez battle
is that experience is such a factor.

We can be absolutely certain that neither rider experienced
these horrible (and potentially fatal) problems for the first time today. 

They were able to just continue with their jobs,
and make adjustments as they raced.

Inexperienced riders almost certainly would have been on the deck.

Facing these situations - and developing mind / body memories
of how to surmount them - allows riders to survive to race again.