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Online RansomT

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Wizards of NOS
« on: April 15, 2013, 02:18:16 PM »
I just wanted to give folks some unsolicited feedback about me experiences with Wizards of NOS, their products, and the support I have gotten from Trevor.

I contacted Trevor a couple months back for some ideas and possible purchase of some of WON supplies.  From the very beginning, I was blown away from his willingness to help (share information) and his accessibility.  Now donít get me wrong, Trevor has a strong personality, but that is overshadowed with his knowledge and his work.

I worked through a design with him prior (notice I said prior) to any purchase and all I can say about his products and service support is WOW!

The quality of his parts are far superior in fit/finish/functionality than anything else I have seen from the USA companies.   All of the hardware fits together with precision, you really donít know how nitrous fittings are really supposed to function until you work with his stuff.

Support I have received from him is absolutely second to none.  I have 47 emails in my inbox pertaining to my nitrous setup, its development, and alternatives.   Many of these back and forth emails are within minutes and not a single one of them wasnít answered.  And how many times have you purchase items from a mail order vendor that gave you support like that?  You canít buy that kind of service.

Will I buy from WON again, absolutely!   Will I recommend to folks to buy his products, absolutely!
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Re: Wizards of NOS
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2013, 07:50:26 PM »
Thank you for the feedback. We are building an LSR nitrous car and a WON system is on our short list.

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Re: Wizards of NOS
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2013, 10:49:00 AM »
Now we have come to the end of my season and I could not tell you in words of how pleased I have been with Wizards of NOS.  I ended up at last years September event running in the upper 2-teens, this year I made a pass just 1.4 mph short of breaking into the 240s.  So what has changed with my bike to increase the speed by 20 mph?  Other than the nitrous system, very little.  Yes, I change the clutch and a few minor aero pieces (like shorter grips), but by far the nitrous system and it's delivery had the most impact.  If you ever have run nitrous at a LSR event, you know as you approach the timing traps the bikes have a tendency to quit pulling as hard, not mine.  Trevor's design and his help was the key to my success.  Thank You Trevor. 
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Re: Wizards of NOS
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2013, 11:42:36 AM »
I have studied all nitrous system available in detail and WON certainly stood out as the best option.  Congratulations again to your success. 

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Re: Wizards of NOS
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2013, 04:16:50 PM »
Very nice feedback Ransom. Your success certainly reflects well on WON.

Can you tell us generally how the WON design is better than, say, the NX design?  I do NOT have a dog in this fight, but I'm curious.

Thanks,
Dean

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Re: Wizards of NOS
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2013, 09:59:20 AM »
Because of its density, Nitrous has tendency to flow in straight line within the tubing as compared to just air. When there is a bend in the tubing, especially a 90 degree turn, the mass of the nitrous will flow to the ďoutside of the curveĒ causing an imbalance within the tube. WON designs itís components with this in mind to negate most of this imbalance.    A lot of the other nitrous companies, especially with their dry kits, will have a 90 turn right before their spray bar and/or within their spray bar.  Nitrous will try and flow in a straight line and pool to the outside of the tubing in that turn, dumping the lionís share of the nitrous shot into 1 or 2 cylinders.  ľ mile folks only spray for only a few seconds and their motors will survive for a while this way, not so much with the LSR crowd.  The WON systems are ďsemi-customĒ and Trevor is always accessible to help with the installation.  In addition, they use much higher quality components caring a lifetime warranty.

What hurts WON is the exchange rate with the Euro along with they have a tendency to sell their components complete.  e.g Their solenoids come with all the fittings and nitrous filter installed.
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Re: Wizards of NOS
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2013, 11:10:58 AM »
Thanks Ransom, great info. I remember when NX came on the scene, and there were design improvements in the nozzle. The old NOS nozzles typically needed a +4 spread of fuel over nitrous, while the NX nozzles liked a -4 spread. The idea was better atomization of the fuel in the nitrous. -Dean

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Re: Wizards of NOS
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2013, 11:52:36 AM »
Thanks Ransom, great info. I remember when NX came on the scene, and there were design improvements in the nozzle. The old NOS nozzles typically needed a +4 spread of fuel over nitrous, while the NX nozzles liked a -4 spread. The idea was better atomization of the fuel in the nitrous. -Dean

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Re: Wizards of NOS
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2013, 12:43:46 PM »
If it lives long enough for me to do a few things on gasoline, I will definitely perk this sucker up with a little juice :)

pssssht pssssst  :bike:

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Re: Wizards of NOS
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2013, 12:49:02 PM »
If it lives long enough for me to do a few things on gasoline, I will definitely perk this sucker up with a little juice :)

pssssht pssssst  :bike:

Awwwwww yeah!!!!!!  :yes: :tu:
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Re: Wizards of NOS
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2013, 09:06:45 AM »
If it lives long enough for me to do a few things on gasoline, I will definitely perk this sucker up with a little juice :)

pssssht pssssst  :bike:

Awwwwww yeah!!!!!!  :yes: :tu:

I keep thinking about the taurus  :hys:
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Re: Wizards of NOS
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2013, 12:01:14 PM »
If it lives long enough for me to do a few things on gasoline, I will definitely perk this sucker up with a little juice :)

pssssht pssssst  :bike:

Awwwwww yeah!!!!!!  :yes: :tu:

I keep thinking about the taurus  :hys:

LOL!!! Good times!  :shock: :mrgreen:
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