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ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« on: May 24, 2013, 10:24:24 PM »
Friend just bought a new 14 and was telling me it's over $400 to get the ECU reflashed,what the hell's up with that?

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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2013, 09:48:24 AM »
Probably Brock's or ECU Unleashed. Have him buy the Woolrich stuff. About the same money but now he has tool he can use to tune instead of a one size fits all.
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2013, 10:10:50 AM »
Mornin' MJ,

I was over on Brocks a few minutes ago and found this link to Guhl Motors and some vids,looks to be top notch and will send the link on over to my friend(looks like he maybe does Brocks ECU stuff).

Thanks for the reply bro! :thumb:

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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2013, 06:28:09 PM »
just got my flasher can not wait to try it out. sorry Guhl that 400.00 to remove stuff was wrong
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2013, 07:40:34 PM »
just got my flasher can not wait to try it out. sorry Guhl that 400.00 to remove stuff was wrong

Let me know when you're ready Johnny,have a friend with a new 14. :tu:
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2013, 09:27:49 AM »
going to Cali end of next week but I have everything and this is going to be sweet. give me a month to play on the dyno to verify stuff and then none of this 400.00 to remove limiters :td:
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2013, 10:55:29 AM »
going to Cali end of next week but I have everything and this is going to be sweet. give me a month to play on the dyno to verify stuff and then none of this 400.00 to remove limiters :td:

Sounds good bro. :thumb:

(whereabouts you comin' to over here[i'm in SoCal],if you're anywhere close and bringin' a dyno put me down for a tune :thumb:)
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2013, 04:13:11 PM »
Anaheim, Redondo Beach, palm desert and no my dyno is bolted to the floor
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2013, 04:27:14 PM »
 :lol: :thumb:
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2013, 12:47:07 AM »
Bit of a threat hi jack, but what can be done on the ZX 14's? same as busa? I assume the ignition and fueling, but what advanced features are there?

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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2013, 07:43:49 AM »
Pretty sure i read something about the control of the secondary butterflies as being one of the biggies. :thumb:
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2013, 09:32:17 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9WYjZrpa-ZU

Watch the video. Woolich have also added the following items since the video, with more to come in the near future: 

  Safety Mode STP Maps
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    Save Last Traction Control Setting
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2013, 10:19:26 AM »
 :tu:
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2013, 07:06:38 PM »
If anyone needs a Flash for a ZX 14,  I am located on the East coast, I am in Florida.
Going to flash a ZX14 when it stops raining here.
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2013, 12:15:38 PM »
Did it stop raining yet?? :hys:
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2013, 05:52:32 PM »
Flashed a 08 zx14 last nite, just as easy as gen 2 busa , but not as many features yet
i just wanted rpm limits and top speed limiter for a LSR turbo bike thats coming with us to Bonneville this yr
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2013, 09:44:46 PM »
going to Cali end of next week but I have everything and this is going to be sweet. give me a month to play on the dyno to verify stuff and then none of this 400.00 to remove limiters :td:

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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2013, 10:04:13 AM »
I went by APE last year, when I ran at Mojave. What a nice facility and Jay and his family were really nice people!! Lunch was good also. :thumb:
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2014, 11:11:06 PM »
Johnnnycheese PM sent about flashing my zx14 ecu...
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2015, 06:11:25 PM »
Friend just bought a new 14 and was telling me it's over $400 to get the ECU reflashed,what the hell's up with that?

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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2015, 06:14:21 PM »
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2015, 08:48:34 PM »
The guys on the ZX-14 Forum are eating that up !!  :lol:  :hys:

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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2015, 09:23:26 PM »
I don't know what those guys do for $400 that Schnitz doesn't do for $75,besides making $325 more. :lol:

http://store.schnitzracing.com/schnitz-ecu-reflash-kawasaki-zx14-12-15/
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2015, 09:37:08 PM »
I had a 2008 ZX-14, my 2008 Hayabusa is a more refined, superior motorcycle.  :tu:

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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2015, 10:11:31 PM »
I've never ridden one,but friend has a 2013 and just spun a bearing.Guess I'll just stay a diehard Busa fan. :lol:

 
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2015, 09:36:34 AM »
I don't know what those guys do for $400 that Schnitz doesn't do for $75,besides making $325 more. :lol:

http://store.schnitzracing.com/schnitz-ecu-reflash-kawasaki-zx14-12-15/

Here's the rest of his spiel for the "CBlast" Flash:

I would recommend simply removing the ecu and packing it in a box with a return shipping label and a note on exhaust setup. When I receive an ECU, we usually flash it and have it shipped back out within a day. USPS Has flat rate boxes for about $5 that get to me from anywhere in the US in about two days. Great deal.
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2. Air / Fuel map is fixed ie - adjusted the ecu's target AFR for maximum torque from idle to redline.
3. Ignition maps - adjusted the ignition using timing advances and smoothing with the goal of maximum performance without sacrificing any longevity or drivability.
4. Removed top speed limiter
5. Removed safety map (flashed the completed full power map over the safety map, it switches over to its own full power map seamlessly see!;) this occurs in a milli-sec, unnoticeable.
6. Allowed for switching between TC modes on the fly and It will now remember the last TC mode used!
7. All TC settings and the way TC works is much smoother (this is due to the work on smoothing all mapping)
8. RPM limit raised to 11500rpm (shift light can be set to 11000)
9. Increased fuel economy and cooler running.
10. She revvs like a liter bike and under loads sounds different. More aggressive. A lot more F1 carlike.
11. Low power mode is smoother and actually gets a little better gas mileage than stock. Eco mode works very well.
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This flash has taken over 60 pulls on the dyno to build and we have verified every single aspect of it. It was also proven on a second dyno by Mike Velasco. One of the worlds pre-eminent motorcycle mechanics. I have thousands of miles on it now and I love it as much today as I did when we first flashed the ecu. With just slips my 2012 ZX-14R 'Priscilla', made 212.22HP. :)) (A few little details like good fuel and a clean and light drive set-up helped)
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This eliminates the need for a dyno tune or a PCV. My tuning partner Nels and I understand how all of the TC intervention using ignition and fuel is designed to work and we simply expanded and what Kawasaki gave us. The bike uses its onboard sensors to maintain focus towards the desired AFR. This works equally well with slip-on or a full exhaust system or stock for that matter. There is no way for any tuner to craft a tune that makes more power or torque. The motor is capable of a theoretical maximum amount of horsepower and torque without mechanical upgrades such as camshaft. I absolutely believe we achieved that mathematical maximum that the ZX14 can provide. No more air or fuel or ignition or any combo of the three would achieve a greater overall result.
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2015, 11:22:20 AM »
Sure does make it sound like $400 worth. :lol:
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2015, 11:26:38 AM »
Sure does make it sound like $400 worth. :lol:

I know!!  :lol:  :lol:

Boosted Cycle Performance did the same thing on my Busa's ECU for $50.00 (spring special, normally $75.00)

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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2015, 04:37:50 PM »
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #31 on: May 24, 2015, 05:05:14 PM »
There is, in my humble opinion, NO SUBSTITUTE for having your bike dyno-tuned by an expert like Johnny Cheese or Rodney Williford; period.   :tu: :bike:
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #32 on: May 24, 2015, 07:21:37 PM »
You got that right,some canned maps are pretty ballpark good(like Brocks,with his pipe,etc.),but I picked up an extra 10 hp Friday with a really good dyno tune. :thumb:
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2015, 04:16:15 PM »
I've never ridden one,but friend has a 2013 and just spun a bearing.Guess I'll just stay a diehard Busa fan. :lol:

Yea I got rid of mine because they fall apart so easy.  Shoot Out of ten people I no with them nine of ours blew up.

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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2015, 07:47:30 PM »
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2015, 05:35:14 PM »
There are a few dynos here in my town of 250,000, but, I have it on reasonably good authority, that there does not exist anyone in town who knows how to properly operate one.

That makes all the difference in the world, IMO.  What good is a completely equipped Hospital without a good surgeon?  Dinky-dow as we used to say in the Nam.
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2015, 03:44:48 PM »
You got that right,some canned maps are pretty ballpark good(like Brocks,with his pipe,etc.),but I picked up an extra 10 hp Friday with a really good dyno tune. :thumb:

Brock's map was in my bike, along with his full ti-exhaust when we did the initial dyno pulls two weeks ago.  Even though the bike made 2 more HP than any other stock motor Busa Rodney had tested, his comment was that the map was "a little on the safe side". 

My experience over the years with just about any motorcycle that was properly tuned, whether carburated or fuel injected seemed to do better when tuned slightly on the lean side.  Our thinking then was that "a lean pig will outrun a fat pig every time".
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Re: ZX-14 ECU Flashing
« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2015, 10:16:03 PM »
Does anyone know if you can take timing out or add per gear on the 14r with ECU flashing? Also could you turn a 2 step on with a clutch limiter? Thanks