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STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« on: January 06, 2014, 02:17:29 PM »

STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS


To Recognize Those Individual Motorcycle Racers
that have excelled in the 1.0  standing start mile
with ONLY GASOLINE for fuel - All Motor,
while riding a sit-on motorcycle.

No Power Adders, like blowers,
turbos, nitrous, nitro, E85. 

Just motor and Skill !


1.  Dean Sabatinelli........230.770.
2.  Colt  Bateman...........230.446.
3.  Jennifer Robertson...229.963. 
4.  Ryan Ostergard........228.9.
5.  Zach Millholland........227.34 
6.  Mark DeLuca............227.2.
7.  Mika Syren...............225.9..
8.  Karl Gunter..............224.6.
9.  Steve Knecum..........223.x..
10.  Lloyd Davies...........222.8.2
11. Sal Spatafora...........222.476.
12.  Rick Stetson............222.123..
13.  Scott Davis..............222.046
14.  Chad Millholland.......221.827
15.  Dave Owen..............220.312..


The speeds listed here are an officially measured,
listed by the sanctioning body ( ECTA, Loring, etc),
and are NOT necessarily a record.

bottom cut-off over 220 mph.

YHS, Scott
« Last Edit: March 01, 2014, 03:58:49 PM by scott g »

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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2014, 04:46:50 AM »
So, what are these n/a motors burning ?

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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2014, 07:09:37 AM »
So, what are these n/a motors burning ?

I can't speak for everyone on the list but all these guys are/were burning gasoline.

1.  Dean Sabatinelli........230.7700......Wilmington 2013
2.  Colt  Bateman...........230.446.......Loring 2012   
3.  Jennifer Robertson...229.963........Loring 2013   
4.  Ryan Ostergard........228.9...........Beeville 2013   
5.  Zach Millholland........227.34.........Wilmington 2012   
6.  Mark DeLuca............227.2.........Maxton 2009
8.  Karl Gunter..............224.6...........Beeville 2012
9.  Steve Knecum..........223.x..........Maxton 2008 ?
13.  Chad Millholland......221.827.....Maxton 2008
14.  Dave Owen.............220.312......Maxton, 2006


I'm not sure about yourself, Lloyd, Sal, or Rick.

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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2014, 07:10:29 AM »
Scott,

FYI - Loring started in 2009. 

Are you making the trip north this year?  It's been awhile hasn't it?

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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2014, 08:24:35 AM »
Scott,

FYI - Loring started in 2009. 

Are you making the trip north this year? 
It's been awhile hasn't it?


Wilmington and Loring (2009) may
be both in my plans for this year......

Loring is SO nice !

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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2014, 12:27:30 PM »
So, what are these n/a motors burning ?

I can't speak for everyone on the list but all these guys are/were burning gasoline.

1.  Dean Sabatinelli........230.7700......Wilmington 2013
2.  Colt  Bateman...........230.446.......Loring 2012   
3.  Jennifer Robertson...229.963........Loring 2013   
4.  Ryan Ostergard........228.9...........Beeville 2013   
5.  Zach Millholland........227.34.........Wilmington 2012   
6.  Mark DeLuca............227.2.........Maxton 2009
8.  Karl Gunter..............224.6...........Beeville 2012
9.  Steve Knecum..........223.x..........Maxton 2008 ?
13.  Chad Millholland......221.827.....Maxton 2008
14.  Dave Owen.............220.312......Maxton, 2006


I'm not sure about yourself, Lloyd, Sal, or Rick.
Well, i`m using E85, but can`t understand why it`s rated as a power adder. I don`t think these other guys are using pump gas ?

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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2014, 01:50:14 PM »

Well, i`m using E85, but can`t understand
why it`s rated as a power adder. I don`t
think these other guys are using pump gas ?


It is rated as a "power adder" because:

1) It is not 100% gasoline,which is generally required to meet "the rule."

2) With E85, one can increase the compression substantially,
and get more power - kind of like a "power adder."

Why are you using E85 ?

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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2014, 01:55:35 PM »
So, what are these n/a motors burning ?

I can't speak for everyone on the list but all these guys are/were burning gasoline.

1.  Dean Sabatinelli........230.7700......Wilmington 2013
2.  Colt  Bateman...........230.446.......Loring 2012   
3.  Jennifer Robertson...229.963........Loring 2013   
4.  Ryan Ostergard........228.9...........Beeville 2013   
5.  Zach Millholland........227.34.........Wilmington 2012   
6.  Mark DeLuca............227.2.........Maxton 2009
8.  Karl Gunter..............224.6...........Beeville 2012
9.  Steve Knecum..........223.x..........Maxton 2008 ?
13.  Chad Millholland......221.827.....Maxton 2008
14.  Dave Owen.............220.312......Maxton, 2006


I'm not sure about yourself, Lloyd, Sal, or Rick.
Well, i`m using E85, but can`t understand why it`s rated as a power adder. I don`t think these other guys are using pump gas ?

I don't know that E85 is considered a "power adder" per say. It just isn't gasoline. It's alcohol. Since it's not gasoline it moves you from gas class to fuel class(at least with all the sanctioning bodies here in the states anyway). You are still naturally aspirated. You're just running alcohol instead of gas.

You are also correct that nobody on this list is running pump gas(myself included).
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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2014, 01:58:17 PM »
Looks like Scott and I posted at the same time.
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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2014, 02:24:18 PM »

Well, i`m using E85, but can`t understand
why it`s rated as a power adder. I don`t
think these other guys are using pump gas ?


It is rated as a "power adder" because:

1) It is not 100% gasoline,which is generally required to meet "the rule."

2) With E85, one can increase the compression substantially,
and get more power - kind of like a "power adder."

Why are you using E85 ?
Well, i`m not meeting the rules then.
There are limits raising the compression with E85, and you can go past that limit with several VP race gasolines. The comp i`m using is 3 steps lower than what Karl had in his Carpenter kit. There`s a power adder there, i mean the Carpenter kit  :D
And why i`m using it (?) I was using VP race gas before and noticed it came quite expensive when i`m riding on the street also, E85 costs sixth what VP does, and i can get it from pump here. Now my bike is modified from street to race by bolting off the mirrors, turn signals, license plate and changing gearing.

I think Lloyd might be using pump gas.

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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2014, 07:40:41 PM »
this past fall at Loring Henry and i were running in the fuel class for simplicity (we were gas class legal), but went over 220 with VP MRX-02. (Karls old 12)
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00 ZX-12R  1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB Worlds Fastest NA Kawasaki
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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2014, 07:53:21 PM »

Well, i`m using E85, but can`t understand
why it`s rated as a power adder. I don`t
think these other guys are using pump gas ?


It is rated as a "power adder" because:

1) It is not 100% gasoline,which is generally required to meet "the rule."

2) With E85, one can increase the compression substantially,
and get more power - kind of like a "power adder."

Why are you using E85 ?
Well, i`m not meeting the rules then.
There are limits raising the compression with E85, and you can go past that limit with several VP race gasolines. The comp i`m using is 3 steps lower than what Karl had in his Carpenter kit. There`s a power adder there, i mean the Carpenter kit  :D
And why i`m using it (?) I was using VP race gas before and noticed it came quite expensive when i`m riding on the street also, E85 costs sixth what VP does, and i can get it from pump here. Now my bike is modified from street to race by bolting off the mirrors, turn signals, license plate and changing gearing.

I think Lloyd might be using pump gas.

I fully understand.

It is not necessarily that you have "more power,"
it's that you are using "not gasoline.

Cheers, Scott

« Last Edit: March 01, 2014, 04:00:51 PM by scott g »

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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2014, 12:19:27 AM »

STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS


To Recognize Those Individual Motorcycle Racers
that have excelled in the 1.0  standing start mile
with ONLY GASOLINE for fuel - All Motor,
while riding a sit-on motorcycle.

No Power Adders, like blowers,
turbos, nitrous, nitro, E85. 

Just motor and Skill !


1.  Dean Sabatinelli........230.7700......Wilmington 2013
2.  Colt  Bateman...........230.446.......Loring 2012   
3.  Jennifer Robertson...229.963........Loring 2013   
4.  Ryan Ostergard........228.9...........Beeville 2013   
5.  Zach Millholland........227.34.........Wilmington 2012   
6.  Mark DeLuca............227.2.........Maxton 2009
7.  Mika Syren...............225.9..........Elvington, Eng 2013
8.  Karl Gunter..............224.6...........Beeville 2012
9.  Steve Knecum..........223.x..........Maxton 2008 ?
10.  Lloyd Davies...........222.8.........Elvington, Eng 2012
11. Sal Spatafora...........222.476.....Maxton 2010
12.  Rick Stetson............222.123.....Maxton 2006
13.  Chad Millholland......221.827.....Maxton 2008
14.  Dave Owen.............220.312......Maxton, 2006


The speeds listed here are an officially measured,
listed by the sanctioning body ( ECTA, Loring, etc),
and are NOT necessarily a record.

From time to time, I will try to update this list.

By all means contact me if you find someone
belonging on this list.  Try to include a way to
find the verification of the speed.

Loring, ECTA list many old speeds and records,
so for the time being. why don't we make the
bottom cut-off over 220 mph.

Much of the ECTA history in "buried" on
their website www.ecta-lsr.com

Loring has been racing from about 2007, and has
a new website at www.loringrtiming.com
The website is still a work-in-progress,
and older information, as well as the
2013 speeds and records are either hard to find,
or not yet posted.


YHS, Scott

Thankyou Sir,, :tu:,,
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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2014, 08:20:07 AM »
So, what are these n/a motors burning ?
.  All of our teams records in NA were set with c44 fuel. It's non oxygenated. Larry never believed in using a fuel that has an advantage when running in a gas class.. 

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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2014, 11:59:31 PM »

STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS




YHS, Scott

Thankyou Sir,, :tu:,,

The credit goes to Ryan and to Karl,
who did the original research and
listing.

I just looked in the usual places
for a few more good folks.........

Scott

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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2014, 10:42:07 AM »
Added today !

13.  Scott Davis..............222.046.....Loring 2013

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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2014, 10:58:32 AM »
An interesting sidelight on the gasoline question:

Up until the (maybe) late 1970's at Bonneville for
the motorcycle racers, gasoline meant PUMP GAS !

C12 or C44 it wasn't !
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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2014, 04:16:41 AM »
I'm not sure about yourself, Lloyd, Sal, or Rick.
Rick was riding Dave Owen's bike.

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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2014, 04:12:35 PM »
 DaveO made the 220.312 pass.........Rick upped it later in the day.
 A couple years later DaveO asked my youngest Chad to make a few passes on his bike. It was the June meet and hot, Chad ran the 221.8 pass.
 Over the next couple months DaveO freshened the engine up with anticipation of Chad running some bigger numbers in the September's cooler air and stouter engine. At that meet DaveO wanted to do a shakedown pass before turning Chad loose on it.....what a sad day.
 Still missing you Dave, what a talented & great guy.
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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2014, 08:35:58 AM »
DaveO made the 220.312 pass.........Rick upped it later in the day.
 A couple years later DaveO asked my youngest Chad to make a few passes on his bike. It was the June meet and hot, Chad ran the 221.8 pass.
 Over the next couple months DaveO freshened the engine up with anticipation of Chad running some bigger numbers in the September's cooler air and stouter engine. At that meet DaveO wanted to do a shakedown pass before turning Chad loose on it.....what a sad day.
 Still missing you Dave, what a talented & great guy.
Dan
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Thanks for the background Dan, great history.

Hard to believe it's been over 4 years since he died. Thanks for the link, RIP DaveO.

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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2014, 07:25:15 AM »

Well, i`m using E85, but can`t understand
why it`s rated as a power adder. I don`t
think these other guys are using pump gas ?


It is rated as a "power adder" because:

1) It is not 100% gasoline,which is generally required to meet "the rule."

2) With E85, one can increase the compression substantially,
and get more power - kind of like a "power adder."

Why are you using E85 ?

Retracted
« Last Edit: January 16, 2014, 07:28:00 AM by gsx-rboy750 »

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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2014, 12:20:53 AM »
it would be interesting to know the indivual engine size of those 14 bikes listed, where thay sit in relation to established LSR(salt) classes,, :wink:,, as an outsider looking in here, their just names with a speed, no way of making comparasions, :?
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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2014, 04:18:48 AM »
1634 in a 1650 class

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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2014, 07:20:14 AM »
DaveO's was a 1507.
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Re: STANDING 1.0 MILE BEST N/A SPEEDS
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2014, 09:47:52 AM »
Mine (7.) is 1622cc, rev limit 11000rpm, exhaust Ti-force  :wink: