good battery, busa sputters, doesnt start, gift for you?

[kevinbais]

Hey all.

 I've got a new to me 2006 suzuki hayabusa 1300. bought a new battery day i bought it as dude who sold it said thats ALL it needs. Bike was starting to sputter so i checked battery on multimeter, which i was new to, and saw only zero? anyway, hooked battery to tender, showed it as charging, then eventually charged. ran well for one week.

 sputtering now, checked it on tender, charged, but eventually it sluggishly tried to fire up but wont. now it turns the headlight and panel lights on when i turn key and ready it, but still just sputtering and sounds like its trying but just wont start. damnit.

LOVE this bike but cant seem to get it going, u know?

And sometimes, when it DOES start, if i give a quick twist of throttle, that twist can kill it or make it sputter. wtf is going on?

at low speeds, its jerky like a lil biyotch.

So, for you to share with me hopefully:

1. what is the issue with a good battery and no longer starting?

2. i have multimeter on 20, DCV setting, the COM and omega are correct, and i hit red to red and black to black what am I doing wrong?

3. when i twist throttle and it kills it or sputters, i want that to stop.

what parts and cost would this cost at a shop?

I got a friend who can do it but just wondering the parts, cost and time of the fix.

If you can help me, shit, I will be SO thankful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want to ride b4 snow comes!!!
PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!
I may even mail you a gift for your help!!!!

THANK YOU!

[firemanjim]

Multi meter suspect if you are seeing zero. You need to check that first. Then when bike is running you should be seeing 14 volts at about 2500 RPM, and 12.5 or better sitting with no huge drop when you hit starter button. These bikes NEED good voltage to start and run well.
And how long was this bike sitting? If it was not running for any length of time I would suspect bad gas and maybe clogged injectors/pump.

[kevinbais]

Thank you for the reply!!
I think it was sitting a bit. have cycled many round o gas thru it. injectors/pump, I agree. getting new meter sent out to me. what luck, 1st meter I buy sucks! o well. how much would pump, injectors cost? stuff u can buy online then have buddy work on? any other issue sound suspect based on the busa bucking like a biyotch? Thanks amigo!

[firemanjim]

Injectors can be cleaned for reasonable cost-- just had some done for 750 racebike. Get a fuel pressure gauge and see if your pump is putting out enough pressure. New spark plugs?

[#1busa]

Did you run some Sea-Foam thru it??

[TT]

Did you run some Sea-Foam thru it??

snake oil

[Sport]

No it's not.  Not a cure all but for a light to medium 'clogging' due to old or bad gas, it can do wonders for dirty injectors and fuel lines.  Certainly the cheapest way to see if that's a fix or not.

[#1busa]

Everybody is entitled 2 an opinion....... that's honestly the 1st time I've ever heard anybody say something negative about seafoam. is it the end all be all cure 4 everything?? No..... but I've seen too many people use it including myself 2 doubt that it doesn't work and 4 the price it's kinda hard 2 not give it a try.

Post up some links or some info debunking the "snake oil" commonly referred 2 as seafoam......

[kevinbais]

Hey all, seafoam is dope. But this issue is beyond that. the busa wont start anymore. My money is on fuel pump, stator, electrical. something. got my friend looking at it at end of October. I will share what it was and cost when the busa gets fixed. thanks all for ur feedback, peace of Christ b with you all.
Kevin

[TT]

No it's not.  Not a cure all but for a light to medium 'clogging' due to old or bad gas, it can do wonders for dirty injectors and fuel lines.  Certainly the cheapest way to see if that's a fix or not.

until u have injectors tested before and after using seafoam then u really dont know if it works or not, has any one ever had there injectors tested before and after??

[kevinbais]

not sure, the dude who sold it lied about a lot. I guess Ill find out when my hommie checks it out?

[magus]

have you checked the spark plugs?   was the new battery a good one, or one of those cheap ass ones from walmart?

[kevinbais]

haven't checked plugs yet. I need to educated how to do that. Battery was legit from batteries plus, brand spankin new son!

[magus]

Just saying, have seen some brand new in box that was still crap.

[magus]

so it was not running when you got it?

[kevinbais]

u have what in the box? it was running when I got it, even on the old battery. I drove it str8 to put in new battery from store. progressively got more bucky and annoying now just F'd.

[magus]

does it buck in all gears or just 2nd?   find a service manual, check the plugs.

[magus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMRUSmDSL9Q

[kevinbais]

it bucks mostly when I first start off, so like 1st gear. been like a month since I was on it. may buck in 2nd too. its always at the start of starting it up. just like a lil biyotch. so annoying. looks so beautiful and sexy just runs like a ho bag. drives me crazy. ill have to check that video out....

[kevinbais]

so I checked the video. its for a 1999 busa. same as 06 in terms of getting to air filter and plugs? just wanted to ask before I start watching these vidz.

[magus]

it's close enough.

2nd gear dogs rounding off is an issue with these bikes

[kevinbais]

I don't think I got that prob. its more just right off the bat, 1st gear. ill check them vidz and see what up.

[firemanjim]

And 99 known for fuel lines going bad and collapsing. If they have never been replaced I'd look there, surprisingly cheap.

[kevinbais]

good thing mine is a 2006! we'll get this biznitch worked out eventually.

[RansomT]

Sure sounds like a bad fuel pump to me.

[kevinbais]

how much is a new one? tough job?

[Sport]

No it's not.  Not a cure all but for a light to medium 'clogging' due to old or bad gas, it can do wonders for dirty injectors and fuel lines.  Certainly the cheapest way to see if that's a fix or not.

until u have injectors tested before and after using seafoam then u really dont know if it works or not, has any one ever had there injectors tested before and after??

Not that this is the OP's problem but the 'test' before is the poor running of the engine, missing, uneven idle etc.  The 'test' after Seafoam is the (absence) of what the first test indicated...sheesh!  Now, if there's something wrong with the 'E' in the EFI then Seafoam obviously won't help.  My point once again is, Seafoam is about the cheapest way to eliminate dirty or gummed up fuel lines or injectors, short of having them removed and professionally cleaned or rebuilt.

[TT]

i would put a permanent fuel pressure gage on it, like the ones on turbo bikes, this way if u ever have any running problems u will know right away if its fuel related, did u check for codes??

[kevinbais]

ah good call. no I haven't done that stuff yet. not entirely sure how to. Ryan my hommie will help with that. Ill suggest this stuff tho.
U guys are great. I miss my Busa.

[Assassin8]

Take it to the shop man !!

The problem is that everyone is just guessing, it could be a number of things...
Fuel pumps are over $800 for a new one, it could be just filters blocked, or it could be stator that needs replacing if it is not charging.... Guessing is no good, you need to take it to someone that knows what they're doing... That's my advice....

[TT]

Take it to the shop man !!

The problem is that everyone is just guessing, it could be a number of things...
Fuel pumps are over $800 for a new one, it could be just filters blocked, or it could be stator that needs replacing if it is not charging.... Guessing is no good, you need to take it to someone that knows what they're doing... That's my advice....

fuel pump from the dealer for my 99 was $200.00   not $800.00
most things on these bikes are very easy to check and test urself with a readilly available manual witch im sure can be found very easily online, shit if i took my bike to the dealer every time i had a problem i would,nt have a house to live in the dealer would own it, get a manual and learn ur bike

[Assassin8]

fuel pump from the dealer for my 99 was $200.00   not $800.00
most things on these bikes are very easy to check and test urself with a readilly available manual witch im sure can be found very easily online, shit if i took my bike to the dealer every time i had a problem i would,nt have a house to live in the dealer would own it, get a manual and learn ur bike

$200 is very cheap, maybe is was just the pump they replaced and not the whole assembly... Just the primary filter is $77, the hp filter is nearly 400, and the pump, who knows, but I'm also talking Gen2, prices on Gen1 may differ slightly... It also may have been a cheap Chinese one they installed, you can buy them on fleabay for $35... Just saying.....

[Sport]

TT wouldn't have purchased crappy replacement parts.

[TT]

fuel pump from the dealer for my 99 was $200.00   not $800.00
most things on these bikes are very easy to check and test urself with a readilly available manual witch im sure can be found very easily online, shit if i took my bike to the dealer every time i had a problem i would,nt have a house to live in the dealer would own it, get a manual and learn ur bike

$200 is very cheap, maybe is was just the pump they replaced and not the whole assembly... Just the primary filter is $77, the hp filter is nearly 400, and the pump, who knows, but I'm also talking Gen2, prices on Gen1 may differ slightly... It also may have been a cheap Chinese one they installed, you can buy them on fleabay for $35... Just saying.....

it,s not they replaced, its I replaced! and i bought the pump from the dealer that I replaced, absolutely no one works on my bike but me, and there is no need to replace the whole assembly when the filter screens can be cleaned

[TT]

TT wouldn't have purchased crappy replacement parts.

[TT]

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-deville-1985-2005-including-1985/522569-seafoam-good-idea-not.html

[gunjamike]

YOU SAID BIKE RAN WELL FOR ONE WEEK, SOUNDS LIKE THE BATTERY IS'NT CHARGING. WHEN BATTERY GETS LOW BIKE WILL NOT RUN GOOD. CHECK REGULATOR IT MIGHT BE THE CULPRIT.