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Why no turbos in grudge ?
« on: July 05, 2016, 10:13:19 PM »
Why is it the fastest bikes in pro open and pro street are turbos but, no one runs them in grudge racing ? As of late I've even seen the fastest turbo team has a nitrous grudge bike ??  :bah: Why ? Are turbos not allowed in grudge ?
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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2016, 12:59:56 AM »
Why is it the fastest bikes in pro open and pro street are turbos but, no one runs them in grudge racing ? As of late I've even seen the fastest turbo team has a nitrous grudge bike ??  :bah: Why ? Are turbos not allowed in grudge ?
I'm not a bike drag racer, but I didn't think grudge had any rules, other than safety stuff,  cost possably up front it may be cheaper to do a nitrous setup rather than turbo, and I mean MAY be cheaper
The older you get do you notice you start chickening out way before the bike does

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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2016, 09:52:35 AM »
Most grudge racing events are 1/8th mile.  Although a turbo can be fast in the 1/8th, they really wake up past the 1/8th in the 1/4.

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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2016, 07:33:49 PM »
NO......The problem is nobody wants to race againts them.....and yes they wont allow them at some grudge races......DME had to build an nos bike to race them....when they already had THINK THINK........If they allow them....nitrous bike will become obsolete....CHRIS MOORE has 2 turbo bikes that are new and he is already starting to hurt them......bad....on new bikes.....the grudge racers will stop showing up if they start to pour in and win everything....

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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2016, 06:06:07 AM »
The only place turbos are not allowed are "sanctioned" grudge races, which aren't really grudge races, but heads up class racing since there is no real aspect of grudge racing other than no times and the hypothetical "run what ya brung and hope ya brung enough" mentality. The biggest difference is that the sanctioned races are heads up and most grudge races aren't, due the mismatch of the bikes / riders. Big 8 or similar races are really quick 8, no bar races that are usually limited to bikes that have never shown their times (or now fairly often just eliminating turbos all together). If it is a real grudge race, they are allowed, but good even luck getting  race unless you hustle for awhile and then finally get one, that you win...it will likely be the last race you get.
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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2016, 11:55:51 AM »
NO......The problem is nobody wants to race againts them.....and yes they wont allow them at some grudge races......DME had to build an nos bike to race them....when they already had THINK THINK........If they allow them....nitrous bike will become obsolete....CHRIS MOORE has 2 turbo bikes that are new and he is already starting to hurt them......bad....on new bikes.....the grudge racers will stop showing up if they start to pour in and win everything....


Lol, I noticed that . Was just wondering if it was what it looked like .  :D
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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2016, 11:58:00 AM »
The only place turbos are not allowed are "sanctioned" grudge races, which aren't really grudge races, but heads up class racing since there is no real aspect of grudge racing other than no times and the hypothetical "run what ya brung and hope ya brung enough" mentality. The biggest difference is that the sanctioned races are heads up and most grudge races aren't, due the mismatch of the bikes / riders. Big 8 or similar races are really quick 8, no bar races that are usually limited to bikes that have never shown their times (or now fairly often just eliminating turbos all together). If it is a real grudge race, they are allowed, but good even luck getting  race unless you hustle for awhile and then finally get one, that you win...it will likely be the last race you get.


And yes , these were the races I was referring to . They talk all that smack about how fast they are but I never seen any of them beating turbos .  :hys:
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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2016, 06:20:57 PM »
Me personally,  I'd love to see a certain blue grudge 1k or, a certain blk grudge 1k  run Tink tink in the 1/4 .  :D
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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2016, 12:46:28 PM »
Me personally,  I'd love to see a certain blue grudge 1k or, a certain blk grudge 1k  run Tink tink in the 1/4 .  :D

kingpin was talking about running Tink Tink in an exhibition race.  He was also talking about maybe running shawn Gann on his all motor bike and Billy Vose on Ellamean

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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2016, 05:47:21 PM »
$35,000 Kings of grudge Joey was told he couldnt race.I have a buddy with a fairly competitive pro street bike told he couldnt race in a "street tire shootout" race.

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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2016, 07:33:02 PM »
$35,000 Kings of grudge Joey was told he couldnt race.I have a buddy with a fairly competitive pro street bike told he couldnt race in a "street tire shootout" race.

About what I figured.
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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2016, 07:37:50 AM »
I know they still have classes for grudge racing. They run motor v. motor, nitrous v. nitrous and slick v. slick. Have you guys thought about asking for a big 8 turbo v. turbo? I would love to see that.

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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2016, 07:53:17 AM »
I know they still have classes for grudge racing. They run motor v. motor, nitrous v. nitrous and slick v. slick. Have you guys thought about asking for a big 8 turbo v. turbo? I would love to see that.

For me it's wanting to see the supposed fastest grudge bikes run the known fastest bikes(Because we see it on the board).  The day Tink tink runs Eddie Cane will never happen!
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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2016, 09:44:26 AM »
I know they still have classes for grudge racing. They run motor v. motor, nitrous v. nitrous and slick v. slick. Have you guys thought about asking for a big 8 turbo v. turbo? I would love to see that.

For me it's wanting to see the supposed fastest grudge bikes run the known fastest bikes(Because we see it on the board).  The day Tink tink runs Eddie Cane will never happen!

Not many people will run Tink Tink. Not even the other turbo guys. See what I'm saying.

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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2016, 02:33:53 PM »
$35,000 Kings of grudge Joey was told he couldnt race.I have a buddy with a fairly competitive pro street bike told he couldnt race in a "street tire shootout" race.
that's because it is a sanctioned event. "Grudge" has now become a class...used to always be run what changes brung, now they are pretty filtered.
Any day on a motorcycle like this that ends just needing parts and labor is a good day.
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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2016, 08:00:05 AM »
I know they still have classes for grudge racing. They run motor v. motor, nitrous v. nitrous and slick v. slick. Have you guys thought about asking for a big 8 turbo v. turbo? I would love to see that.

For me it's wanting to see the supposed fastest grudge bikes run the known fastest bikes(Because we see it on the board).  The day Tink tink runs Eddie Cane will never happen!

Not many people will run Tink Tink. Not even the other turbo guys. See what I'm saying.

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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2016, 08:01:11 AM »
$35,000 Kings of grudge Joey was told he couldnt race.I have a buddy with a fairly competitive pro street bike told he couldnt race in a "street tire shootout" race.
that's because it is a sanctioned event. "Grudge" has now become a class...used to always be run what changes brung, now they are pretty filtered.

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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2016, 07:09:02 AM »
I'm sure all the nitrous and motor guys know that they can't run with the turbos. Turbos are making upward of 800 plus HP.  It's a lot more races going on now compared to run what you brung. I'm a fan of both class and grudge races. Turbos are taking over period.

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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2016, 05:19:01 PM »
I don't know why they can't run a turbo in the street tire shootout.  There was a white turbo bike in the street tire shootout at the last Piedmont race. I know they have a rule that the bike could not have showed a time in the past. But I thought that rule was just for the Big 8 race. I call this the "Dme" rule.

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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2016, 06:20:54 PM »
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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2016, 06:27:31 PM »
Are they gonna let them run that turbo in Big8 ?
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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2016, 06:34:21 PM »
Are they gonna let them run that turbo in Big8 ?

You can run anything you want as long as it doesn't have a bar and hasn't shown times.

Not sure if we are going to run it there or not
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Any day on a motorcycle like this that ends just needing parts and labor is a good day.
4.82, 158.67mph 1/8th mile 7.350, 200.32mph 1/4 mile Riding

4.51, 171.75mph 1/8th mile  6.908, 212.83mph 1/4 mile Tuning

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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2016, 07:38:17 PM »
Wow , I knew they would be fast unlimited but dam.  :bah: Rodney lite it up in Bradenton ! Very expressive !  :tu:
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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2016, 08:05:27 PM »
Wow , I knew they would be fast unlimited but dam.  :bah: Rodney lite it up in Bradenton ! Very expressive !  :tu:

Just a few warm up laps.  8)
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Re: Why no turbos in grudge ?
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2016, 08:19:03 PM »
rodney is gonna be a force to be reckoned wit next year.