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[speedduck]

Can you enlighten me about these lsr records in US ?
I know the basics, engine sizes , fuels, turbo/na, different fairing solutions, but where does all those hundreds of variations come from ? And how can they run many of them with the same bike ?


Extra question,  why is there no n/a list on the menu ?

[RansomT]

Several years ago on the hard surface tracks, the rules started allowing for folks to "run up" in engine class.  e.g: a stock bore Busa could run in 1350, 1650, 2000, 3000, and sometimes 3000+. Then recently, a new engine category "twin" was added at these tracks.  This opened up a whole range of open records for folks to run against, assuming you had a 2 cylinder bike.

Now if you also carry 2 different tail sections in your trailer, you can run Modified Streamlined and Altered Streamlined at the same event.  Pull the fairings and you are in Modified.  Have a 1 gallon fuel tank available, and without the fairings you can run Altered.

There are 10 engine classes from a 250-3000+, add the "twin" and you have 20.  Go between M, A, MPS, APS ... you now have 80.  Change between Fuel and Gas, it raises to 160.  At Loring, they have traps (records) at the mile and 1.5 mile, now you have 320 at a single venue.

Of course, since it cost $$ to switch classes, it get's real expensive really fast.   

However, once the record book is filled up with no open records remaining, it starts to become more and more difficult to get lots of records at a single event.

In all fairness,  some folks who have held lots of impressive records (Like Scott G.), didn't have all these types of rules (or categories) for most of their racing careers and they didn't (or couldn't) set gobs of records at a single event. 

On a personal note:  I have no clue how many records I have set. I don't even think about switching classes. I just try to get faster and learn.

[scott g]

  why is there no n/a list on the menu ?

Several folks - most notably TrickTom - have started
"lists" for the rest of us to refer to - or to join.

Tom's list has lived the longest, and
seems to resonate with a lot of people.

Keeping up with a list involves research,
a willingness to endure "discussion," and
the satisfaction of offering something to
suzukihayabusa.org other than just
"reading and commenting."

I believe that there is definitely a
PLACE for an NA list here - and
that it would be greatly appreciated,
since that is what 99% of us ride.

I suppose that all you have to do is
START the list, and others will chime in and help.

Such a list might be INDEPENDENT of the length
of the course, and FEATURE one BEST SPEED  each RIDER.

I would nominate MARK DELUCA, sponsored by LARRY FORSTALL,
STEVE KNECUM AND MARK DELUCA ( FOR-DE-KNE)
for his unbelievable 254 +++mph one-way pass at Bonneville in 2009,
on the 2000cc class Hayabusa with fairing.

GASOLINE, NO power adders of ANY kind !

[speedduck]

Thanks Ransom, i think i got the idea.
It would be too limited to run Finnish class categories, we have this big difference in population and number of racers.

We don`t have anything else than standing mile on the pavement, so that`s my only interest, and i`m very grateful you have these listings here where we can compare, and include our results.

There was a good start building up the n/a listing, but sadly it dried out.

http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/forum/index.php?topic=162362.0

[scott g]

Thanks Ransom, i think i got the idea.
It would be too limited to run Finnish class categories, we have this big difference in population and number of racers.

We don`t have anything else than standing mile on the pavement, so that`s my only interest, and i`m very grateful you have these listings here where we can compare, and include our results.

There was a good start building up the n/a listing, but sadly it dried out.

http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/forum/index.php?topic=162362.0

I am TOTALLY uninterested in
continuing the list for one mile only.

ALL course lengths might be interesting, though.............

[AlterEgo]

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