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Offline RansomT

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Mojave Magnum 2018
« on: April 16, 2018, 11:34:56 AM »
I heard we had a bad accident this past weekend.  Anyone have any info?
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Re: Mojave Magnum 2018
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2018, 12:21:50 PM »
Current thinking is that the deceased,  60-year-old
Timothy Scott Partridge from Draper, Utah crashed into a fence
during a racing event at the Mojave Airport.

Crash was on Saturday, April 14th just before 10 A.M.

Preliminary reports are that Draper was on a high-speed run,
and did not come out of his tuck, and ran full-speed
into the fence at the end of the track without slowing.

Not yet known if there was a "medical" cause,
or a mechanical problem, such as brake failure.

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Re: Mojave Magnum 2018
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2018, 12:28:30 PM »
I posted this list back in 2013,
and it has not been updated to include the several
incidents since that time, especially the two crashes
at the Texas Mile  a few weeks ago.


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       FATAL and POTENTIALLY FATAL
  INCIDENTS in PAVEMENT LSR EVENTS.


1)   Karl Gunter – - - - - shutdown – Beeville - survived
2)   Billy Shoemaker – shutdown – Beeville  - survived
3a) Bill Warner – - - - -  shutdown – Beeville – survived
4)   Jerry Wayne Lyons - track -------Beeville - DIED

3b)  Bill Warner –-   shutdown – ECTA Maxton  - survived
3c)  Bill Warner – -  shutdown – ECTA Maxton  - survived
5)    Guy Lombardi     -shutdown – ECTA – Maxton - DIED
6)    Dave Owen –  --  -shutdown – ECTA – Maxton – DIED
7)    T J Cannon----- -  track - ECTA – Maxton – survived
VIII) Debbie Dross – shutdown - ECTA – Maxton - survived

9)    Gerald Deneau –shutdown - ECTA – Wilmington - DIED
10)  Donna Timney- shutdown – ECTA – Wilmington – survived

3d)  Bill Warner  - - -track and shutdown – Loring - DIED

11)  John Noonan –    track – Mojave mile - survived

Short summary:

Fourteen (14) incidents
Eleven (11) individuals involved
Ten (10) year time span
Ten (10) involved shutdown
Five (5) deaths

Contrast:

Several incidents at Bonneville
and El Mirage – zero (0) deaths

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Re: Mojave Magnum 2018
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2018, 12:38:37 PM »
You will notice that the
predominate cause death is "running long."

That is, folks go through the timing traps,
and - for whatever reason - do not apply the brakes. 

They continue to run - sometimes at full speed - until
they hit something off the track surface.

If we include Mr. Partridge, that makes four(4) deaths
out of six(6) total,  67% of ALL pavement LSR deaths.

This happens solo on the clear track, no traffic, good
weather and no evidence of mechanical problems.

Usually riders with experience and
no history of extreme medical problems.

No vision problems

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Re: Mojave Magnum 2018
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2018, 12:50:28 PM »
Multiple 200-club member Erin Hunter Sills reports:

"...the event did A very good job of managing safety on Sunday.

They implemented a couple of new procedures that were smart.
For example, at the start line they had the rider hold the front brake
and try to roll the bike forward so that they
are sure that no one has spread to break pads. 

They also had a very stern discussion with all
of the motorcyclists about situational awareness,
and ensuring no one was riding with their head
tucked down using white lines on the runway
as a guide rather than looking up.

They also have everyone run course, at 25 miles an hour,
so that they could very clearly see
what all the markers along the course work.

 I would complement Mike and Marsha Borders on
the procedures that they implemented.

I’m sorry that they have to..."

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Re: Mojave Magnum 2018
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2018, 12:52:51 PM »
Disappointing...................

If we can have this much information
about a crash in California within two (2) days,
why can't we have even the NAMES of the
guys hurt in Texas within the month ?.......................

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Re: Mojave Magnum 2018
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2018, 01:36:03 PM »
Report from the scene by the companion of
the deceased, who is driving his rig
back home to Utah...............

"Tim Partridge was on a borrowed H2
and ran out the back door never lifted. 

Initial impact with a barb wire fence did him in." 

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Re: Mojave Magnum 2018
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2018, 03:47:30 PM »
The information that I got out of Texas was 1 of the riders, whom is still in the hospital, was on one of his faster license runs and was watching a GPS instead of the track.
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Re: Mojave Magnum 2018
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2018, 04:44:21 PM »
GPS is a trap like that ,One of our riders sort of did the same  at Colorado, watching the GPS to licence at the right speed and missed the brake marker , soon realised the mistake and braked to the end of the bitumen then she rode out the end into the rough in a controlled manner, and stopped without crashing.

Very sad about Tim , thoughts are with his friends and family

After talking to one of the racers there i wondered if the spectators lining the track well after braking area could make a rider feel there still in the mile and a no go zone after the mile or mile and a half  would help the feeling something was wrong ?
   
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Re: Mojave Magnum 2018
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2018, 05:06:49 PM »
The information that I got out of Texas was 1 of the riders, whom is still in the hospital, was on one of his faster license runs and was watching a GPS instead of the track.

Thanks Ransom.

Certainly the GPS offers a lot of information,
but it cannot replace "situational awareness."

Easy trap for the inexperienced to fall into.

Putting exact speed ahead of personal safety............

I have done it myself, and almost lost it !

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Re: Mojave Magnum 2018
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2018, 05:16:16 PM »
GPS is a trap like that ,One of our riders sort of did the same  at Colorado, watching the GPS to licence at the right speed and missed the brake marker , soon realised the mistake and braked to the end of the bitumen then she rode out the end into the rough in a controlled manner, and stopped without crashing.

Very sad about Tim , thoughts are with his friends and family

After talking to one of the racers there i wondered if the spectators lining the track well after braking area could make a rider feel there still in the mile and a no go zone after the mile or mile and a half  would help the feeling something was wrong ?
 

Thanks Oz............

It is hard to understand the GPS being Tim's problem.

Mojave is long enough to have a 1.5 mile event,
so if only running one mile, that gives an extra
 1/2 mile to gather one's self up and brake correctly
- let alone going off the end into
the barb wire without ever lifting.

I like the GPS at Bonneville,
 where traction is more of an issue.

If you are in top gear,
you can stay on track, and
follow the GPS and the tach.

If the tach is rising, and the
GPS falling, than you are spinning.

Reduce the throttle, and the tach
drops a lot, without the GPS falling as much.

You are now NOT spinning.

Roll back into it until traction is again lost

Rinse and repeat.........

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Re: Mojave Magnum 2018
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2018, 05:40:01 AM »
I have never competed at a tarmac event,,

Scott, your comment "Situational Awareness" rings loud,,

As mentioned, one can be distracted by GPS, Wind,, at 200mph you cover 293 feet per second, it would only take a small distraction and your gone too far,,

How well defined are the "Finish Lines" at these events, is it a marker either side of the track, a flag, a banner, are there small to large markers leading up to the finish line ???

In the old days of drag racing there were white cross hatch lines 33' either side of the finish line, if you were "distracted" your minds eye (peripheral vision) sure noticed them,,
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Re: Mojave Magnum 2018
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2018, 12:34:07 PM »
I also ran off the track at Colorado watching the gps for a licensing pass but low enough speed to ride it back out, poor Kim killed the engine and the stator was taking a dump so she could not ride out as I did.

And at Mojave there are no spectators past the finish line area so that was not the issue. Not sure who it was, but one of our group had spoken with the workers at the turnout area and the rider went by head down on the tank and never let off. Sounds like brakes were not an issue.
Mojave has a great shutdown area and flashing lights/flags marking the finish line, as well as having nothing past the line to confuse you. The finish line is where the staging lanes come in at a 90 and the spectators are all standing here, only thing just past this is the timing trailer. So, lots of cars and bikes and people as well as very large motorhomes to mark your finish.
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Re: Mojave Magnum 2018
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2018, 02:58:41 PM »
I had a young rider miss the finish line
at Maxton at about 251 mph around 2009

He had been using the proximity of
the timing tower to the track as a visual clue.

Over the winter, the tower had been, for safety,
moved rather far from the track.

When my young friend passed through the finish line,
he took a while to realize that he had missed the finish.

He is/was a highly accomplished racer / rider,
and had just made a small mistake.

Could have been worse.

We had a little chat after............

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Re: Mojave Magnum 2018
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2018, 05:05:55 PM »
We had a situation at the Gairdner FIM event this year where a rider on a return run, was still on the berries at the 4, two miles after being timed thru the 7 to 6, apprantly he only started backing out at the 3  :shock:

He is a good mate, I chewed him out, his answer, "wasent sure where I was", "WHAT :twisted:",   "Situational Awearness",    his timed speed 160+mph,  "Red Mist" was in his eyes,,
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Re: Mojave Magnum 2018
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2018, 06:01:20 PM »
We had a situation at the Gairdner FIM event this year
where a rider on a return run, was still on the berries at the 4,
two miles after being timed thru the 7 to 6,
 apprantly he only started backing out at the 3  :shock:

He is a good mate, I chewed him out, his answer,
 "wasent sure where I was", "WHAT :twisted:",   
"Situational Awearness",   
his timed speed 160+mph, 
"Red Mist" was in his eyes,,

Nicely told story !

On pavement, it might
have ended as well................