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Offline phatnphast

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« on: November 22, 2003, 01:53:00 AM »
JUST WANNA KNOW IS IT OK TO RUN THE CUT OIL PANS ON THE STREET?  

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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2003, 04:04:00 AM »
Im, cutting my oil pan down 3/4 of an inch at work right now.There is 1/4 of an inch of clearance between the bottom of the pan and the pick up.Im going to try to maintain that clearance.The only thing Im worried about is that the pan is made out of pot metal or a cast aluminum.I wonder if I will have trouble tig welding it.If anyone has any imput on this my ears are open also.  

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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2003, 11:16:00 PM »
Frank at PsychoBike Performance offers that same Mod, shouldn't be a problem.

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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2003, 06:34:00 PM »
DONT LIKE EM
FEW HAD BEARING ISSUES
NOT SURE IF ITS THE CULPRIT

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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2003, 07:00:00 PM »
I am thinking about buying an aftermarket (over priced pan), the type with the pivoting pick up.  I am going to be drag racing the bike a lot, it will be equipped with a velocity stage 2, with all the extras.  Are these pans that much better than the stock ones?  Are the ones Frank is doing just as good?  Dennis has made me nervous, I don't want to spen 500 on something that might cause me more problems.

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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2003, 08:47:00 PM »
DEPENDS ON HOW LOW YOU ARE SLAMMING IT
IF  REAL FAR YA GET THE OVER PRICED PAN      

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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2003, 09:11:00 PM »
i've got a cut one for sale
cut, flat plate tig welded in place
oil drain plug relocated (not on bottom anymore)
pickup cut down accordingly

if your getting really low 1.40's in the 60' then go with the expensive pan
or if your a wheelie guy then dont run it

if it a shortwheelbase street bike that doesnt do those kinda short times then it should be ok
my buddy ran one on his stock wheelbase bike and never had a problem

also run 4.5 quarts of oil no matter what

$100 outright for the pan
plus shipping

i can take a pic tommorow

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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2003, 10:04:00 PM »
quote:
Originally posted by dragzooks@indy:
i've got a cut one for sale
cut, flat plate tig welded in place
oil drain plug relocated (not on bottom anymore)
pickup cut down accordingly

if your getting really low 1.40's in the 60' then go with the expensive pan
or if your a wheelie guy then dont run it

if it a shortwheelbase street bike that doesnt do those kinda short times then it should be ok
my buddy ran one on his stock wheelbase bike and never had a problem

also run 4.5 quarts of oil no matter what

$100 outright for the pan
plus shipping

i can take a pic tommorow

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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2003, 12:03:00 PM »
hayabusa maniac - If your running the Billet Pan, You HAVE to run the Dump Pipe due to the depth of the new pan.  The cut pans are NOT nearly as good but, you can still run a pipe or dump pipe.

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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2003, 04:06:00 PM »
FYI -
We build Hayabusa powered sports cars. The oiling issues are more severe in a car because it doesn't lean like a bike.

We have experienced NO problems using the Koenig billet oil pans with the swivel oil pick up in our Fury race cars. The Koenig oil pans were good enough that I started selling them.

We did however have some problems in the past running the cut down pans. I believe that the sloped sides of the cut down pans is the issue.

 Please also note that the Koenig oil pan is built better and I believe is worth the extra $ than some of the rip off copies out there.

I can offer a small discount to site members.

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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2003, 11:58:00 PM »
CAN THE BILLIT PAN WORK WITH A 4-2-1 EXHAUST OR ONLY TURBOS AND SIDEWINDERS?  

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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2003, 12:12:00 AM »
quote:
Originally posted by phatnphast:
CAN THE BILLIT PAN WORK WITH A 4-2-1 EXHAUST  


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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2003, 01:49:00 AM »
I cut and welded my pan tonight.Worked out nice.Cleaned the pan with contact cleaner removed about 3/4 of an inch.Didn't want to romove to much because I wanted to still have some of the sump for oil pickup.Machined a 1/4inch of aluminum to insert in the I.D of the bottom.Cleaned again with contact cleaner and welded.Now with Dennis's reply Im alittle worried.

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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2003, 12:52:00 PM »
dont run that cut stock pan you will have bad luck trust me i have a stack of cranks to prove it go with the good oil pan the high price one

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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2003, 01:26:00 PM »

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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2003, 02:52:00 PM »
i had the windage tray to but still had bad luck i lost oil pressure when the front wheel come up it took me 2 cranks to find out what the problem was

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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2003, 10:03:00 PM »
I know the koenig pans are suppose to insure proper oil pick up under acceleration and brakeing.  But also allow you to lower the bike more.  My question is, how low is too low.  I have always ran my Busa dropped 3 inches.  To lower it any more I will have to make my own dog bones, which is not a problem, but would it 60' better being lowered 4 inches?  With the Koenig pan can I go down 4 inches and still have my bike the required 2 inches off the ground?  Is the extra ground clearance provided by the pans for dropping your bike lower or just to help keep things safe when comeing off of a wheelie?

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« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2003, 02:31:00 AM »
You will have to cut your plastic as most SBS bikes do to get the most outta the available ground clearance.
       
These are a couple a Busa's that are slammed!

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« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2003, 07:04:00 AM »
quote:
Originally posted by bigbird:
i had the windage tray to but still had bad luck i lost oil pressure when the front wheel come up it took me 2 cranks to find out what the problem was

The windage tray doesn't work    What was the problem  

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« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2003, 10:33:00 AM »
so what did you find to be the cause ?
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« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2003, 06:42:00 PM »
its the cut pan is the problem that i had. i put the stock one back on an had know problems put the cut pan back on and lost oil pressere agin when the bike is in the air i give up i am going to put a good pan on it

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« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2003, 07:08:00 PM »
McIntosh will mod your stock pan for 75.00
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« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2003, 07:26:00 PM »
WIll it work with Turbo    I was told it woulnt work? Wont hold enough oil what the hell I know. I just spend money I dont have  
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« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2003, 09:36:00 PM »
The Koenig oil pan actually holds more oil.

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« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2003, 10:08:00 PM »
quote:
Originally posted by bigbird:
its the cut pan is the problem that i had. i put the stock one back on an had know problems put the cut pan back on and lost oil pressere agin when the bike is in the air i give up i am going to put a good pan on it

So the windage tray would work fine on a stock oil pan right  

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« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2003, 12:46:00 PM »
yes it will work great  

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« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2003, 02:08:00 PM »
quote:
Originally posted by bigbird:
yes it will work great  

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« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2003, 03:57:00 PM »
quote:
Originally posted by Chet:
The Koenig oil pan actually holds more oil.

 Koenig oil pan

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not when i measured the 2 back to back  

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« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2003, 06:10:00 PM »
MH -
I was comparing the Koenig pan capacity against the cut down pans. I believe it does hold more oil than these.

Are you comparing against the stock pan?

Sorry for any confusion.

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« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2003, 08:39:00 PM »
ya sorry stock pan  

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« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2003, 01:30:00 AM »
bigbird,just wondering how much you removed from the stock pan and how much you took off the pick up.I seen an artical in the Feb 2002 issue of Cycle World.One of the featured bike's was the NLR race bike.It has a modified stock pan.This artical is what gave the Idea to do my own pan.

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« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2003, 08:59:00 PM »
Ben I been thinking of wiring a time relay to the oillight so when I start the engine I can turn on the relay. If the engine losses oil pressure for only split second it will still continue to stay on until it's reset.  BTW. what your wheelbase.

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« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2003, 11:21:00 PM »
quote:
Originally posted by GsxHyper:
McIntosh will mod your stock pan for 75.00

true  
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« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2003, 02:28:00 AM »
Sorry Charles for taking so long to post.It has been a mad house around here.Sounds like a cool Idea on the oil light.Let me know how it works out.My Wheelbase is 68inch,please say you are not adding wheelbase to the GSXR600/Busa.Dam,Ive got to get off my ass.  

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« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2003, 01:07:00 PM »
Ben I want add wheelbase if you want add more boost. Yell right    Ben I can't see how removing 3/4" from oilpan and giving up 3or4 oz.oil is going to make or break an oil system. Maybe we should treat this like nitrous or boost just keep stepping it up little by little to we find the eage or in this case keep triming the pan to the oilight flickers.Any body up to removing an 1"  

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« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2003, 07:16:00 PM »
Let us know how it turns out CW  
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« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2004, 02:20:00 AM »
I'm new to the hayabusa. Does it have a lube problem like the zx11 and #3 journal? I keep the zx11 oil at top of window. Bought wrecked Busa and don't want to cook it.