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Offline spdingtkts

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Installing new buckets when changing cams?
« on: May 19, 2004, 12:06:46 PM »
How many of you replace your original buckets with brand new buckets when installing Web Cams?

I have installed my last set of Web Cams due to several issues with this last set of cams I got from them. The latest problem was one intake lobe going bad. I just got off the phone with them and according to them you need to install all brand new buckets when you install your cam.

I have used their cams before and never had any problems. I have never replaced all the buckets with brand new ones either. I have seen posts on the board about people having problems with their cams and now I have experienced it for myself.

One thing I was surprised they did not ask was their old "Were you using synthetic oil?".
I've yet to see a decent JE piston.  All the ones that have come through my door are big heavy clunky items.

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Installing new buckets when changing cams?
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2004, 12:38:25 PM »
I never have.
Bikes operate at pretty low spring pressure compared to cars.
However, Smokey says that using a new cam with old lifters is a great way to chew up a cam.
I have done this so....
I never change a non-roller car cam without new lifters.

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Installing new buckets when changing cams?
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2004, 01:41:31 PM »
Smokey is talking about apple and we are talking about oranges.

Roller cams are a billet steel and so are the roller lifter wheels.

Smokey is talking about a cast iron cam with cast iron lifters. When you install that combination you need to "break in the cam" so that the lobe and the lifter work harden together.

I have seen people use old lifter in a care engine and their stuff is still running years later and I have seen people use old lifters and wipe the cam out while trying to break it in. I always use new lifters with a flat tappet car cam. They are cheap and not worth the trouble.

In this application we are using a stock steel bucket with what started out as a cast iron cam and then was redone as a hard weld.
I've yet to see a decent JE piston.  All the ones that have come through my door are big heavy clunky items.

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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2004, 10:54:41 PM »
I use new Web cams...with old Buckets..NO WORRIES ! ! !

Great people @ Web Cams..
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Installing new buckets when changing cams?
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2004, 07:40:01 AM »
I will change them next winter.
I got something I wanna try....SHHHHHHHH
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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2004, 10:35:40 AM »
Quote from: SPEED KING Parts Slut
I use new Web cams...with old Buckets..NO WORRIES ! ! !

Great people @ Web Cams..
 :D
J


I have used them in the past and never had any problems either and then when it came to this job I am very unhappy.
I've yet to see a decent JE piston.  All the ones that have come through my door are big heavy clunky items.