JS good to see your car again. I can't figure out why peeps are giving ya shit. Hell your car has been here before twice in the fulltilt/nickslick video and the other vid with you chasing the '04 r1 through the canyons. Good run and nice vid. Hopefully we'll see you and nickslicks corner carver Hayabusa do a run through the curves soon.
When it comes to either acceleration or top end...cars ultimately rule.
A look at the SCTA or NHRA record book proves that.
Cars have better traction and aerodynamics.
Not quite. In terms of the absolute pinnacle of Controlled conditions Performance on a Race track, yes. On the street however, it's a different story. How many Bonneville stream liners and john force dragster clones has anyone encountered on the streets or when filling up at the gas station lately? In terms of us mere mortals and what we can encounter on the road, There's quite a few so called street legal cars that'll do 9's, 8's and even 7's at the track and supposedly on the street too. However theres modded Street legal drag bikes that can do the same thing for less cash and better reliability as well. And usually boasting a much better top end speed despite being geared for drag racing (not always the story with a car set up for the 1/4. One quick example being Dana's Supra in a recent run with nickslicks "Corner carver" Hayabusa.)
For top end, I haven't seen too many Mclaren owners posting GPS pics of 240+mph runs (even though the car has done this on a closed long oval course). Quite a few people here and on other busa boards have showed their turbo busa's dancing at this speed with breath left. And I have yet to see anything official dubbing the new Bugatti world record rights for hitting it's long "Estimated" top speed of 250+mph while some sites are
claiming 252mph. In terms of street car the Sledgehammer corvette outright owns top rights for hitting 254.76 mph at Transportation Research Center - a 7.5 mile oval with steeply banked turns and straightaways that stretch to the horizon. The Yancy's turbo busa just busted it's own 250mph record at maxton hitting 256.4mph from a dead stop In One Mile. Given that this is a stock framed/wheelbase Street legal turbo busa with (at last check) around 450hp on tap, there's quite a few bikes that are alot more lethal roaming the highways right now. With that in mind the top speed of cars like the above mentioned is one thing, How
quick you get there is another. A Ghetto kit 270hp Turbo busa will hit 220mph alot quicker then any mclaren, bugatti, or sledgehammer vette on the highway. And being there's not many roads that mimic a 7 to 10 mile perfectly smooth oval course to gradually build up speed on, this doesn't help the supercars much at all in light of What a Turbo busa has shown to do mostly on the streets as well as the track.
I'll put in my 2 cents. A properly setup hi-pro sports car will most likely out do a bike in tight twisty roads. About the best a bike can pull in a corner is 1 g (45 deg lean angle) or maybe a hair more. An insane street car will pull a tighter corner, unless maybe the raod is just rough as hell. Now if the road was tight corners with long straights between corners it might be able to pull the car on the straights.
As someone else brought up the motorcyclists article, lets keep in mind this is still in chasing a somewhat stock bike. R1 was said to be modded for 190hp, but no verification yet. However we still haven't gone into modding the bike's handling abilities which would make for a huge difference be it road or track.
On a semi tight twisty track with small straights a car will ALWAYS have the track record...PERIOD! ! Can't beat physics!
Fastbikes magazine just so happened to one up the motorcyclist test by doing a similar test at a smaller/ tighter track, better cars ( Lambo Murcielago , Porsche 911 GT3 , Radical SR3 Tracksport
http://www.radicalextremesportscars.com/index.php ) , and ace racers for both the bike and cars. They used a stock Gixxer 1000 and a crescent tuned Road legal Gixxer 1000 with motor pumping 180hp, ohlins suspension, and better brakes. Besides dusting the cars in the straight line , at the road course neither the lambo (time of 1min 11.5 sec) or Custom Porsche (time of 1min 10.9sec) could beat even the STOCK gixxer 1000 (time of 1min 09.0 sec). The Radical Blistered the track with a best of 1min 5.6 sec and with a power to weight ratio of 449bhp per ton, I doubt theres any street car that can better something like this little car in cornering ability. Thing is the Crescent Gixxer beat this as well ( time of 1min 5.4sec). And there's still alot of mod potential left in this bike too. God only knows just what's going to be possible performance wise when people start tweaking the '05 1000.
Turbogrizz brought up a good point with road conditions. Thing is i've actually left cars behind in some parts that would be bumpy for a cage to rake 4 wheels across them at high speed in mid curve, but after time i've found a few of these bumpy parts to have a few smooth areas that if you enter and hold the line right you can track through pretty smoothly on a bike at a really good clip and still stay in one lane. Not really a option with a car (even a Radical). Also keep in mind if the car isn't set up as right and well as this vette, things can Break all too easy when pushing a car hard in the turns. Especially on a bumpy road. But JS mentioned neither he or the R1 rider was going too nuts on these curves and we all see that both machines still had alot left to use. They had fun and if both parties are doing that then that's what counts in the end.
Thing is I've got to know, just What was the bike in front of you and the R1? I can barely make it out but the tail almost looks like a '03 or '02 R1?
