GM1300-
1. I wasn't running 17/46 gearing (-1 tooth up front). And if a showroom stock 12r with -1 tooth countersprocket raced a guy with equal rider skill/weight on a showroom stock Busa.... the 12R would murder the Busa. You're a damned fool if you think otherwise.
2. You can't use the exception as the rule you fuckwad! ICEMAN's "Stocker" laid the smackdown on just about every piped and/or cam'd Busa/12R out there.... consistantly. You can't fucking tell me that is a normal example of what a stock busa is.... if it is, then a Stock Busa is faster than a Modified Busa and the aftermarket for the Busa should just cease to exsist because of it.
As for Miguel's piped Busa, that too is an exception, not the RULE! His bike is consistantly going as fast as even the best people go with motorwork. Usually a Busa with pipe,pc,filter, cams will run 195-196mph in the 9/10th's with ICEMAN on it (who is the best rider out there). ICEMAN was able to run 195+mph with NO wind on Miguel's Busa.... and it's 100% untouched stock motor. Again..... these two bikes are exceptions, not the standard.
Before ICEMAN's stocker... the fastest Stock exhaust stock motor Busa ran 186-187mph... with an expert rider. ICEMAN was able to run 3-4mph faster which translates into about 8-9 bike lengths on the 2nd fastest stock Busa to ever run out there with an expert rider (the same rider who currently holds the Kingpin spot out there at 222mph was the rider of that Busa).
If you cancel out those two exceptions, I've beaten just about ever piped and or stock Busa that's had the balls to race me. Ask ICEMAN, he'll tell you truth about my bike.
As for me saying the piped 12r is faster... that's because it is! Our little 9/10th races don't mean dick. Different riders, differently tuned and modified bikes!!! How can you use that as a valid comparison? Especially when the Busa's being sited as examples are exceptions to the rule?
Honestly, did you even graduate highschool?
You're not taking ANY variables into question...
The reason I say the Piped 12R is faster over a long distance (not a 9/10th mile drag race where you can NOT attain top speed due to lack of room) Is because Sportrider mag is the ONLY credible testing done with two examples with exactly the same mods tuned by exactly the same person ridden by exactly the same rider on the exact same day with the exact same conditions.
2001 Big Dog's Sportrider issue... It's the only magazine that eliminated ALL variables when testing both bikes in stock trim, Unrestricted stock, and piped form. The 12R was faster with the restriction, the Busa was faster unrestricted, they 12R was faster piped + unrestricted. Show me a professional legit test done with less variables than that... and I'll retract my statement and issue an appology.
Busa@11k- You sorry prick....
Iceman's bike is 17/41 with removed mirrors, lowered, pc3usb, extensive custom tuning, aftermarket chain, double bubble windscreen, and who knows what else. Yes, it has a stock motor and stock exhaust.. but that's about as far as it goes. You're in the same boat as Gm1300, you don't know shit about what's going on or the bikes involved.n
